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Fri 05/04/07


Total Messages Posted: 20



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     1. 04:45 AM - Re: Re: Where are Larry and Arty (Larry Bourne)
     2. 04:48 AM - Re: Check out some boring videoCheck out some boring video (Thom Riddle)
     3. 05:07 AM - Re: GPS failure (Thom Riddle)
     4. 05:18 AM - Re: Re: GPS failure (Michael Sharp)
     5. 05:58 AM - Re: Check out some boring video (olendorf)
     6. 08:16 AM - #3 Update 2007 Ultralight Flight to MV via Texas (TheWanderingWench)
     7. 08:23 AM - Re: Check out some boring video (JetPilot)
     8. 08:37 AM - Re: GPS failure (JetPilot)
     9. 08:38 AM - Re: Re: GPS failure (Mike Welch)
    10. 08:40 AM - Re: #3 Update 2007 Ultralight Flight to MV via Texas (Roger Lee)
    11. 09:09 AM - Re: GPS failure (JetPilot)
    12. 09:21 AM - Re: Re: GPS failure (John Hauck)
    13. 09:37 AM - Re: Re: GPS failure (Mike Welch)
    14. 09:46 AM - Re: Where are Larry and Arty? (John Williamson)
    15. 01:05 PM - Re: BiAnnual Flight Review - POH (John Williamson)
    16. 01:45 PM - Re: Re: GPS failure (N27SB@aol.com)
    17. 04:08 PM - Re: Re: GPS failure (DAquaNut@aol.com)
    18. 04:24 PM - Re: #3 Update 2007 Ultralight Flight to MV via Texas (Larry Bourne)
    19. 06:46 PM - Re: Where are Larry and Arty (R. Hankins)
    20. 10:23 PM - Re: GPS failure (JetPilot)
 
 
 


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    Time: 04:45:13 AM PST US
    From: "Larry Bourne" <biglar@gogittum.com>
    Subject: Re: Where are Larry and Arty
    Let them know that if they swing up thru Santa Fe, I'll buy them a real nice dinner. Get them an employees rate at a luxury resort and spa, too, with pickup and delivery service to the airport. Lar. On 5/3/07, R. Hankins <rphanks@grantspass.com> wrote: > > > Larry called this evening from Casa Grande, AZ. They flew approx. 8 hours > today. Whew! > > -------- > Roger in Oregon > 1992 KXP 503 > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=110722#110722 > >


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    Time: 04:48:44 AM PST US
    From: Thom Riddle <thomriddle@adelphia.net>
    Subject: Re: Check out some boring videoCheck out some boring video
    The airframe mounted videos I've done have been vibration free as well. The image stabilization in the camera is a big help but I also mounted mine using a 1" thick piece of foam rubber as a cushion all around, with it "preloaded" by compressing it about 1/2" to absorb shocks in all directions. Seems to work. Thom in Buffalo


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    Time: 05:07:16 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: GPS failure
    From: "Thom Riddle" <thomriddle@adelphia.net>
    Steve B, I agree with you. The total dependence upon one technology is not so smart if a back up system is really important to you. More importantly, I liked your greeting to Jet Pilot, "I could not agree with you less". It is very apropos considering Jet Pilot's typical greeting "You could not be more wrong". Politeness has not gone out of style, has it? Being rude while making a point does not help your case. Thom in Buffalo do not archive Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=110758#110758


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    Time: 05:18:56 AM PST US
    From: Michael Sharp <kolbdriver@mlsharp.com>
    Subject: Re: GPS failure
    Amen Thom, Good point! Do Not Archive Thom Riddle <thomriddle@adelphia.net> wrote: Steve B, I agree with you. The total dependence upon one technology is not so smart if a back up system is really important to you. More importantly, I liked your greeting to Jet Pilot, "I could not agree with you less". It is very apropos considering Jet Pilot's typical greeting "You could not be more wrong". Politeness has not gone out of style, has it? Being rude while making a point does not help your case. Thom in Buffalo do not archive Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=110758#110758


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    Time: 05:58:31 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Check out some boring video
    From: "olendorf" <olendorf@gmail.com>
    I have used this software to remove the shake from videos. You need to get the videos to your pc first. Then run in through VirtualDub with the Deshaker plug in. It is a little tricky but it can save videos that are just too shaky to watch. I almost deleted 2 videos I had made of my kids first wakeboarding attemps because they are so bad. But after deshaking them they were good enough to keep, pretty good actually. Here is the plug-in; http://www.guthspot.se/video/deshaker.htm How to use Deshaker guide: http://www.sundancemediagroup.com/articles/deshaker_guide.htm -------- Scott Olendorf Original Firestar, Rotax 447, Powerfin prop Schenectady, NY http://KolbFirestar.googlepages.com Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=110766#110766


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    Time: 08:16:20 AM PST US
    From: TheWanderingWench <thewanderingwench@yahoo.com>
    Subject: #3 Update 2007 Ultralight Flight to MV via Texas
    Hi all, It's Friday morning, and we just called for a weather briefing. Just a few minutes ago I optimistically sent Dave Rains (El Paso) an e-mail saying we might make it tonight. I should have talked to WX-BRIEF first! Winds aloft not a problem - tailwinds of 15-30 all the way to El Paso. We just wouldn't have been able to land anywhere! All across New Mexico and into El Paso there are surface winds of 15/20 gusting to 30, 40 and even 50!!! There's a slow cold front moving east and that's likely to remain for a couple of days. Happily, we've staying with some Kolber friends of mine here in Casa Grande, AZ (south of Phoenix). Let me recap yesterday's flight. When we got to our planes yesterday morning and were doing a radio check, we found that my radio had been damaged in the turbulence on Tuesday. I could hear, but couldn't transmit. (For anyone who knows me, you'll be laughing. My preference is talking over listening!) So all day our method of communication was to fly in close visual contact. If Larry wanted to tell me or ask me anything, he would ask a questionthat could be answered with "yes" or "no" and I'd waggle my wings for a "yes" response and keep them level for a "no" response, Happily, we had calm air all day, so I could keep them level as necessary. We took off and promptly lost sight of each other - circled for 20 minutes before making visual contact. From then on, we were "wing-to-wing" buddies. :>) The first leg was 2.5 hours to Needles, CA. Calm air and flying over beautiful, yet desolate country. Wide valleys of sagebrush, rocks, and dirt roads between jagged mountains (5800-7500') of dark rock. Beautiful to fly over, but I didn't envy Karen who was driving it. After refueling in Needles we flew on over more of the same for a 1.5 hr. leg to Blythe, CA. Blythe is a beautiful valley which is green, green, green - thanks to the Colorado River, which has been channeled into canals for agriculture irrigation. A brief refueling stop and then on for another 2 hours to Buckeye. Again, calm air and beautifully desolate scenery. From Buckeye we flew for an hour to Casa Grande, our destination for the day. As we came near Casa Grande, we saw "forests" of saguero cactus. We were following a dry river bed at about 1000'AGL, and Larry with a shout of glee (yes, he keyed the radio so I heard it) dove down and followed the windy riverbed. I hope my pics of him turn out. We landed at Casa Grande about 7:15 p.m. - we had left Calvada Meadows at 8:00 a.m.! Ed Dobson, who has owned two Kolb Firestars, was there to meet us. I had called Dobsie from Blythe to let him know we were on our way - he thought I had said Buckeye and had gone to the airport to wait! A long, long wait. So we'll be bunking with Dobsie while we wait out this cold front. We'll be keeping you updated - Arty www.LessonsFromTheEdge.com "Life's a daring adventure or nothing" Helen Keller "I refuse to tip toe through life just to arrive safely at death."


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    Time: 08:23:31 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Check out some boring video
    From: "JetPilot" <orcabonita@hotmail.com>
    The video was great, keep on filming, nothing boring about watching a Kolb fly ! Mike -------- &quot;NO FEAR&quot; - If you have no fear you did not go as fast as you could have !!! Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=110795#110795


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    Time: 08:37:07 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: GPS failure
    From: "JetPilot" <orcabonita@hotmail.com>
    [quote="Michael Sharp"] More importantly, I liked your greeting to Jet Pilot, "I could not agree with you less". It is very apropos considering Jet Pilot's typical greeting "You could not be more wrong". Politeness has not gone out of style, has it? Being rude while making a point does not help your case. Thom in Buffalo do not archive Read this topic online > [b] As far as I am concerned, posting good and accurate information is more important than anything. Many new people read this list, and to have a guy post something that is totally wrong is a disservice to everyone. People should know what they are writing about before posting something as fact to everyone that reads this list. I was blunt, but not rude. I consider your post rude though Thom in Buffalo, I would rather be blunt than a hypocrite. More importantly Thom, you seem to place more importance on personalities and what you like to hear more than on good and accurate information. That is a good way to get yourself or someone else hurt in aviation. Mike -------- &quot;NO FEAR&quot; - If you have no fear you did not go as fast as you could have !!! Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=110798#110798


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    Time: 08:38:04 AM PST US
    From: "Mike Welch" <mdnanwelch7@hotmail.com>
    Subject: Re: GPS failure
    Thank you Thom. I wasn't going to reply to his abrasive "know'it'all" comment, due to its overwhelming righteous position, but since I wasn't the only one who noticed that, I WILL take the time to say thank you for pointing it out. I did find it a little puzzling how someone who wasn't sitting in the seat next to me KNOWS all about my situation. Or my GPS, for that matter. (An older model Garmin 95XL. The satellite coverage was always marginal, at best, as I stated in my original message.) Older GPS's only could track 8 salellites. If you were lucky, you received 4......3 and 1 weak one. I liked my GPS, but it was a bit "strength" challenged. And it mattered where you suction cupped it to the windshield! What?? You mean you are using your experience with a modern GPS to tell me how my older GPS WILL act?? So, I'm flying along, 8500'msl, straight line, N Ca border, headed south. GPS is fine. I get shaken severely with turbulence...GPS says "poor GPS coverage". Air settles down a bit, coverage comes back. Then I think "I'm back in business!!" 15 minutes later....shake shake shake..."poor GPS coverage." (And NO, it wasn't the connections!!) End of story. And I still think phylisophically it is MUCH better to have two different forms of navigations. In the event "A" goes out on you, you have a good shot at using "B". But everyone is entitled to their own opinion regarding their preferred navigation methods. (stated politely) Have a nice day! Mike in SW Utah >From: "Thom Riddle" <thomriddle@adelphia.net> >To: kolb-list@matronics.com >Subject: Kolb-List: Re: GPS failure >Date: Fri, 4 May 2007 05:07:00 -0700 > > >Steve B, > >I agree with you. The total dependence upon one technology is not so smart >if a back up system is really important to you. > >More importantly, I liked your greeting to Jet Pilot, "I could not agree >with you less". It is very apropos considering Jet Pilot's typical greeting >"You could not be more wrong". Politeness has not gone out of style, has >it? Being rude while making a point does not help your case. > >Thom in Buffalo >do not archive > > >Read this topic online here: > >http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=110758#110758 > > _________________________________________________________________ Download Messenger. Join the im Initiative. Help make a difference today. http://im.live.com/messenger/im/home/?source=TAGHM_APR07


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    Time: 08:40:56 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: #3 Update 2007 Ultralight Flight to MV via Texas
    From: "Roger Lee" <ssadiver1@yahoo.com>
    Hi Arty, Roger Lee in Tucson, just south of you. Winds are supposed to be bad here Friday and Saturday. Some wind Sunday up to 12-13mph, but in the afternoon. If you want call me and I'll fly up to Casa Grande Sunday morning or if you are leaving tell me a time and route and I'll fly up and along with you for bit. Tell me what frequncy you will be on and I can get a location in the air. Roger Lee Tucson, Az 520-574-1080 home number for Saturday 520-791-5286 work number for Friday -------- Roger Lee Tucson, Az. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=110800#110800


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    Time: 09:09:32 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: GPS failure
    From: "JetPilot" <orcabonita@hotmail.com>
    mdnanwelch7(at)hotmail.co wrote: > > > It was tubulence!! A GPS's antenna cannot "hone" in on the required > satelites if it is being shaken all over the place. > > Mike Welch > > Mike, You very clearly and falsely said that a GPS antenna cannot work in turbulance. You at no time in your post said that it was due to your "old" or "substandard" installation. I think you probably understand 5th grade english. Be a man and admit that you posted bad and false information instead of pouting like a baby about how I called you on it. Mike -------- &quot;NO FEAR&quot; - If you have no fear you did not go as fast as you could have !!! Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=110805#110805


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    Time: 09:21:18 AM PST US
    From: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
    Subject: Re: GPS failure
    OK, Folks: If you are going to get into a pissing contest about GPS, take it bc. I do not want to hear about it, and I might guess most of the other members of the Kolb List do not want to have to wade through it either. Thanks, john h mkIII DO NOT ARCHIVE


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    Time: 09:37:54 AM PST US
    From: "Mike Welch" <mdnanwelch7@hotmail.com>
    Subject: Re: GPS failure
    Well said, John. I agree. Mike in SW Utah >From: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com> >To: <kolb-list@matronics.com> >Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: GPS failure >Date: Fri, 4 May 2007 11:20:59 -0500 > > > OK, Folks: > >If you are going to get into a pissing contest about GPS, take it bc. >I do not want to hear about it, and I might guess most of the other >members of the Kolb List do not want to have to wade through it >either. > >Thanks, > >john h >mkIII > >DO NOT ARCHIVE > > _________________________________________________________________ Watch free concerts with Pink, Rod Stewart, Oasis and more. Visit MSN In Concert today. http://music.msn.com/presents?icid=ncmsnpresentstagline


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    Time: 09:46:25 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Where are Larry and Arty?
    From: "John Williamson" <kolbrapilot1@tx.rr.com>
    The test continues. I have to make a new post so it will come up on the forum as something new. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=110814#110814 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/5_3_2007_199.gif


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    Time: 01:05:24 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: BiAnnual Flight Review - POH
    From: "John Williamson" <kolbrapilot1@tx.rr.com>
    It's real easy to give a simple "No". What is your reference for that answer? -------- John Williamson Arlington, TX Kolbra, 912ULS http://home.tx.rr.com/kolbrapilot Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=110853#110853


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    Time: 01:45:52 PM PST US
    From: N27SB@aol.com
    Subject: Re: GPS failure
    sorry Jetpilot, I did not mean to start a negative stream, I just did not agree with you. I should have been a little more diplomatic in my intro. Steve Boetto do not archive ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.


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    Time: 04:08:16 PM PST US
    From: DAquaNut@aol.com
    Subject: Re: GPS failure
    In a message dated 5/4/2007 7:08:10 AM Central Standard Time, thomriddle@adelphia.net writes: > More importantly, I liked your greeting to Jet Pilot, "I could not agree > with you less". It is very apropos considering Jet Pilot's typical greeting > "You could not be more wrong". Politeness has not gone out of style, has it? > Being rude while making a point does not help your case. > > Thom in Buffalo Thanks Thom, I couldn't have said it more right my self ! Ed in Houston<BR><BR><BR>**************************************<BR> See what's free at http://www.aol.com.


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    Time: 04:24:25 PM PST US
    From: "Larry Bourne" <biglar@gogittum.com>
    Subject: Re: #3 Update 2007 Ultralight Flight to MV via Texas
    A "shout of glee" as he followed the riverbed ?? Yah, he was prob'ly hollering, "eat your heart out, Big Lar." :-) Sure sounds like a fun flight. Lar. Do not Archive. On 5/4/07, TheWanderingWench <thewanderingwench@yahoo.com> wrote: > > Hi all, > > It's Friday morning, and we just called for a weather briefing. Just a > few minutes ago I optimistically sent Dave Rains (El Paso) an e-mail saying > we might make it tonight. I should have talked to WX-BRIEF first! Winds > aloft not a problem - tailwinds of 15-30 all the way to El Paso. We just > wouldn't have been able to land anywhere! All across New Mexico and into El > Paso there are surface winds of 15/20 gusting to 30, 40 and even 50!!! > There's a slow cold front moving east and that's likely to remain for a > couple of days. Happily, we've staying with some Kolber friends of mine > here in Casa Grande, AZ (south of Phoenix). > > Let me recap yesterday's flight. > > When we got to our planes yesterday morning and were doing a radio check, > we found that my radio had been damaged in the turbulence on Tuesday. I > could hear, but couldn't transmit. (For anyone who knows me, you'll be > laughing. My preference is talking over listening!) So all day our method > of communication was to fly in close visual contact. If Larry wanted to > tell me or ask me anything, he would ask a questionthat could be answered > with "yes" or "no" and I'd waggle my wings for a "yes" response and keep > them level for a "no" response, Happily, we had calm air all day, so I > could keep them level as necessary. > > We took off and promptly lost sight of each other - circled for 20 minutes > before making visual contact. From then on, we were "wing-to-wing" > buddies. :>) The first leg was 2.5 hours to Needles, CA. Calm air and > flying over beautiful, yet desolate country. Wide valleys of sagebrush, > rocks, and dirt roads between jagged mountains (5800-7500') of dark rock. > Beautiful to fly over, but I didn't envy Karen who was driving it. > > After refueling in Needles we flew on over more of the same for a 1.5 hr. > leg to Blythe, CA. Blythe is a beautiful valley which is green, green, > green - thanks to the Colorado River, which has been channeled into canals > for agriculture irrigation. A brief refueling stop and then on for another > 2 hours to Buckeye. Again, calm air and beautifully desolate scenery. From > Buckeye we flew for an hour to Casa Grande, our destination for the day. As > we came near Casa Grande, we saw "forests" of saguero cactus. We were > following a dry river bed at about 1000'AGL, and Larry with a shout of glee > (yes, he keyed the radio so I heard it) dove down and followed the windy > riverbed. I hope my pics of him turn out. > > We landed at Casa Grande about 7:15 p.m. - we had left Calvada Meadows at > 8:00 a.m.! Ed Dobson, who has owned two Kolb Firestars, was there to meet > us. I had called Dobsie from Blythe to let him know we were on our way - he > thought I had said Buckeye and had gone to the airport to wait! A long, > long wait. > > So we'll be bunking with Dobsie while we wait out this cold front. We'll > be keeping you updated - > > Arty > > > www.LessonsFromTheEdge.com <http://www.lessonsfromtheedge.com/> > > "Life's a daring adventure or nothing" > Helen Keller > > "I refuse to tip toe through life just to arrive safely at death." > > * > > * > >


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    Time: 06:46:22 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Where are Larry and Arty
    From: "R. Hankins" <rphanks@grantspass.com>
    Karen, Larry and Arty are traveling from Casa Grande to Texas by Subaru. They decided that time would be better spent visiting with friends and family, than sitting in a hotel room waiting out the weather. They will return to their planes in time to lauch for MV. -------- Roger in Oregon 1992 KXP 503 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=110912#110912


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    Time: 10:23:14 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: GPS failure
    From: "JetPilot" <orcabonita@hotmail.com>
    [quote="Steve Boetto"]sorry Jetpilot, I did not mean to start a negative stream, I just did not agree with you. I should have been a little more diplomatic in my intro. Steve Boetto do not archive See what's free at AOL.com (http://www.aol.com?ncid=AOLAOF00020000000503). > [b] Thanks Steve, Sometimes its just to easy to type things on a computer screen without thinking about the people behind the post. I have been known to do that from time to time :) Mike -------- &quot;NO FEAR&quot; - If you have no fear you did not go as fast as you could have !!! Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=110938#110938




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