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Mon 05/21/07


Total Messages Posted: 20



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     1. 07:21 AM - John Bickham visit (Paul Petty)
     2. 12:13 PM - Re: Mark IIIC won't turn right in straight and level  (Kirby Dennis Contr MDA/AL)
     3. 12:46 PM - Firestar II for Sale (Don Martin)
     4. 01:00 PM - Firestar II for Sale (Don Martin)
     5. 01:32 PM - MV#5 (jimhefner)
     6. 01:38 PM - Re: MV#5 (jimhefner)
     7. 01:58 PM - Test (Larry Bourne)
     8. 02:03 PM - Re: MV#5 (ElleryWeld@aol.com)
     9. 02:42 PM - Re: John Bickham visit (John Bickham)
    10. 04:00 PM - MV (Doug Wetzel)
    11. 04:56 PM - Re: Test (Robert Laird)
    12. 04:59 PM - Re: Re: Mark IIIC won't turn right in straight and level (Robert Laird)
    13. 05:56 PM - Re: Mark IIIC won't turn right in straight and level (JetPilot)
    14. 06:29 PM - Will it ever be done... (Dana Hague)
    15. 06:42 PM - Lycoming? (FLYMICHIGAN@comcast.net)
    16. 06:56 PM - MV 2007 (Steven Green)
    17. 07:06 PM - Re: MV 2007 (jimhefner)
    18. 07:07 PM - Re: MV#5 (WhiskeyVictor36@aol.com)
    19. 08:27 PM - Re: MV#5 (jimhefner)
    20. 09:30 PM - wont turn right (boyd)
 
 
 


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    Time: 07:21:02 AM PST US
    Subject: John Bickham visit
    From: "Paul Petty" <paulpetty@myway.com>
    Hi Kolbers, Well while the gang was flying around rocks in the desert we had a little fun of our own. John Bickham flew his beautiful Mark 3 over to visit saturday. We had a good visit pumped 10 gal of fuel in and off he went. I tried to capture his landing (which was perfect) but the tiny view finder lost him. Got a better shot of his departure. Enjoy http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vW_FE9EPquE Landing http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v7_9DNs2Vn4 Take off -------- Paul Petty Kolbra #12 Ms Dixie Final assembly! Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=113973#113973


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    Time: 12:13:09 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Mark IIIC won't turn right in straight and level
    From: "Kirby Dennis Contr MDA/AL" <Dennis.Kirby@kirtland.af.mil>
    << Anyway, this Mark IIIC will not turn right in straight and level cruise. From: "John Bickham" >> John B - I just ordered an "Adjustable Wing Attachment U-Joint" from TNK for a similar (but not as bad!) problem. My Mark-III always wants bank to the left, so I must hold constant right stick to counteract. I attached a bungee to the stick, pulling it right (a-la John H), and that took care of the problem. Saw one of these on John Williamson's Kolbra at Monument Valley this past weekend. It allows you to adjust the height of the rear wing attachment point. By adjusting the trailing edge of one wing up or down, you can bring the bottom planes of your wings back into alignment. Only need one, pick your wing. This may solve your problem. Looking straight-on at my airplane one day recently, standing just in front of the nosecone, I made visual comparisons of the flatness (planes) of the bottoms of both wings. I could see then that my right wing had a slightly greater angle of attack than the left wing. This explains the left turning tendency. I'll report my results after I install the adjustable U-joint. Dennis Kirby Cedar Crest, NM


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    Time: 12:46:27 PM PST US
    From: "Don Martin" <d33martin@gmail.com>
    Subject: Firestar II for Sale
    Kolb Members: I have a partially completed Firestar II for sale. Began the prep for the Sport Pilot License. Completed the required 20 hrs flight training and the written exam. Soloed. Then the day after the dual cross country, found out that I had some serious health problems. Plane has to go. Enjoyed the building process Building a new garage apartment and the plane has kept me busy and out of trouble. Airframe is complete, with tail and one wing covered. All fabric & painting materials from Aircraft Finishing Systems included. Over $16,000 invested in plane, and $9000 in trailer. Prefer to sell as a unit. I'd be willing to transport to a buyer within a day's ride of Dallas. Make offer? Firestar II Powder Coated New: 503 DCDI oil injected, E gearbox 3.47:1, electric start, muffler Powerfin 58 inch 3 blade prop Hotbox ELT Hawker Odyssey Battery 19 amp hr Tracy O'Brien Brakes Aircraft Spruce Vertical Hydraulic Brake Cylinders (Toe Brakes) Aircraft Spruce Electric Fuel Pump Aircraft Finishing Systems fabric & paint BRS repack 2006 Instruments: Mounted in panel 6" closer to pilot, Wiring complete. New: Vertical Speed Indicator Fuel Gage Meter & Sender Used: Compass Air Speed Indicator RPM & Hour Meter combination EGT & CHT Meter Thanks. Have enjoyed following the list and learning from you guys. Don Martin (469) 441-5414


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    Time: 01:00:53 PM PST US
    From: "Don Martin" <d33martin@gmail.com>
    Subject: Firestar II for Sale
    List: Here's a pic of the completed frame. Thanks. Don Martin (469) 441-5414


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    Time: 01:32:55 PM PST US
    Subject: MV#5
    From: "jimhefner" <hefner_jim@msn.com>
    I returned yesterday morning from MV and got some photos sorted out and put on my website for anyone interested. The flying shots are not as good as they used to be in the Firefly, but I got a few decent shots after cropping reflections or window debris. http://jhefner.photosite.com/MonumentValley2007/ After you get to the photos, click on view slideshow button. Those on dial-up shouldn't try the slideshow... just look at the small photos this link. If you click on a small one it will put it in the middle and make it bigger. We had a real good turnout this year, with several new people attending, which was great. Think I counted 18 planes, with lots of Kolbs this year. John W would know how many people attended since he was taking roll. Dave Rains set a new record for giving local Navajo kids rides... way to go Dave! The new paved runway, thanks to Red Bull, is really nice, but some still favor the dirt, which is more forgiving with the flaky x-winds you frequently encounter in that area. They even have a cell tower now and most people's cell phones worked there.... a first! Pat Ladd and his wife certainly came the farthest to this years event and it was nice meeting both of them. I'm sure you will hear/see lots more from others that attended. Looking forward to MV#6 already... :) -------- Jim Hefner Tucson, AZ C-150F N150HF based at 57AZ Do Not Archive Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=114039#114039


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    Time: 01:38:52 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: MV#5
    From: "jimhefner" <hefner_jim@msn.com>
    I forgot to mention that my spam-can C150 and I got a memorable Kolber send-off that had me laughing so hard I had to really concentrate after lift-off.... without getting into too much detail, I'll put it this way... the moon was shining bright that morning... :) Thanks guys.... you cracked me up.... literally!!!! [Laughing] -------- Jim Hefner Tucson, AZ C-150F N150HF based at 57AZ Do Not Archive Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=114040#114040


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    Time: 01:58:19 PM PST US
    From: "Larry Bourne" <biglar@gogittum.com>
    Subject: Test
    Is the List dead ?? I came home after 4 days and there were very few messages. None at all today. Wha's up ?? Lar. Do not Archive.


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    Time: 02:03:49 PM PST US
    From: ElleryWeld@aol.com
    Subject: Re: MV#5
    thanks for sharing your photos with us especially the ones that couldnt make it Ellery in Maine do not archive ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.


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    Time: 02:42:22 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: John Bickham visit
    From: "John Bickham" <gearbender@bellsouth.net>
    Thanks for letting me visit. It was great to fly somewhere instead of sitting at home and wishing we were in MV with the other guys. Anyway, we had our own little MV (Mississippi Valley) gathering. Ms. Dixie is a a great example of wonderful workmanship. Sorry about the erratic flying and not staying in the viewfinder. Also sorry about the late phone call to close my flight home. I always had trouble with closing my flight plans. There was a community gathering on the creek at Nauga Field. I got to visiting and got distracted. Thanks for the rivet, gas run, your time and hopsitality. You and Mr. Charlie have a nice plane and place there. Get-r-dun and come visit. Keep me posted on the move to LUL. -------- Thanks too much, John Bickham Mark III-C &quot;Using my Repairman Certificate&quot; St. Francisville, LA Do Not Archive Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=114052#114052 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/may_5_2007_flight_017_medium_928.jpg


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    Time: 04:00:18 PM PST US
    From: "Doug Wetzel" <dougwe@comcast.net>
    Subject: MV
    I have to say a big "thanks" to Dave Rains for providing airlift for my father-in-law and me on Saturday morning. MV is spectacular from any angle, but it's something special from that air! Although we didn't stick around all day (other family commitments in Mexican Hat), this gathering is definitely on the schedule for next year. It was good to put faces with all the list names I've been seeing for the past five years! Doug Wetzel Salt Lake City


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    Time: 04:56:04 PM PST US
    From: "Robert Laird" <rlaird@cavediver.com>
    Subject: Re: Test
    We were holding our collective breath for the MVers to start reporting. :-) Do not archive On 5/21/07, Larry Bourne <biglar@gogittum.com> wrote: > Is the List dead ?? I came home after 4 days and there were very few > messages. None at all today. Wha's up ?? > Lar. Do not Archive. >


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    Time: 04:59:36 PM PST US
    From: "Robert Laird" <rlaird@cavediver.com>
    Subject: Re: Mark IIIC won't turn right in straight and level
    Dennis - I too had this problem, and the adjustable U was definitely the cure! -- Robert Do not archive On 5/21/07, Kirby Dennis Contr MDA/AL <Dennis.Kirby@kirtland.af.mil> wrote: > <Dennis.Kirby@kirtland.af.mil> > > > << Anyway, this Mark IIIC will not turn right in straight and level > cruise. From: "John Bickham" >> > > > John B - > > I just ordered an "Adjustable Wing Attachment U-Joint" from TNK for a > similar (but not as bad!) problem. My Mark-III always wants bank to the > left, so I must hold constant right stick to counteract. I attached a > bungee to the stick, pulling it right (a-la John H), and that took care > of the problem. > > Saw one of these on John Williamson's Kolbra at Monument Valley this > past weekend. It allows you to adjust the height of the rear wing > attachment point. By adjusting the trailing edge of one wing up or > down, you can bring the bottom planes of your wings back into alignment. > Only need one, pick your wing. This may solve your problem. > > Looking straight-on at my airplane one day recently, standing just in > front of the nosecone, I made visual comparisons of the flatness > (planes) of the bottoms of both wings. I could see then that my right > wing had a slightly greater angle of attack than the left wing. This > explains the left turning tendency. I'll report my results after I > install the adjustable U-joint. > > Dennis Kirby > Cedar Crest, NM > >


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    Time: 05:56:15 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Mark IIIC won't turn right in straight and level
    From: "JetPilot" <orcabonita@hotmail.com>
    John B, It is vitally important that you give a completely accurate description of what is going on ( Not second or third hand information ). Getting one detail wrong, or forgetting to tell something could indicate a completely different problem. The U Joint would fix a trim problem, that is a constant turn to the left, and having to hold a lot of right stick to just hold it straight and level. If you are out of trim that bad, it would be downright scarey to fly, as you would be constantly fighting just to keep your plane level, with the plane turning to the left all by itself and very hard turning to the right... An out of trim problem gets worse with speed, and harder to counteract, so from your description I dont think this is the problem. If the plane flys more or less level on its own, and is just hard to turn to the right when you want to, indicates a jam, not an out of trim problem. The out of trim probelm would definately be more common, but your description definately indicated a jam rather than trim problem. Recheck your facts, and note exactly what the symptoms to accurately diagnose this problem. Mike Bigelow -------- &quot;NO FEAR&quot; - If you have no fear you did not go as fast as you could have !!! Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=114084#114084


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    Time: 06:29:51 PM PST US
    From: Dana Hague <d-m-hague@comcast.net>
    Subject: Will it ever be done...
    AAAARGH!!! As you may know, I bought an Ultrastar complete with enclosed trailer last December a week before the airport it was located at closed. The US needed maybe a day of work to get it flyable; the trailer was another story... it had been used to store junk for the past 15 years or so while the plane sat comfortably in a hangar. Pieces of rotted wood fell off the trailer all the way home. I figured no big deal, how tough can a trailer rebuild be? Started working on it as soon as it got warm enough, and months later, it still seems endless. The big stuff, floor, sides, etc., went fast enough, but night after night I'm fussing with details... ventilation yesterday, doors the day before, tail boom support today and tomorrow, lights next... endless $50 and $100 purchases from McMaster and the local hardware store (my wife LOVES that part!)... then I have to get my tow vehicle running... one of these months maybe I'll even be able to FLY the plane! If I had know how long it would take I'd have done the minor work to make the plane flyable and at least put a few hours on it before bringing it home... as it is making Homer's next month is seeming less and less likely. Oh well, sorry, just needed to vent... I know it'll be worthwhile in the end... but today I'm pretty tired. -Dana -- -- Okay, who put a "stop payment" on my reality check?


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    Time: 06:42:55 PM PST US
    From: FLYMICHIGAN@comcast.net
    Subject: Lycoming?
    Has anyone ever heard of a Lycoming o290 ever being mounted to a kolb? I just picked up a zero time o290d at an auction. (125hp) Bryan Dever


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    Time: 06:56:00 PM PST US
    From: "Steven Green" <Kolbdriver@bellsouth.net>
    Subject: MV 2007
    I made it home today, touched down at MMI at 2:15. I had a great time visiting with everyone and seeing the scenery. My trip home was good with no unfavorable winds, mostly a crosswind. Round trip was 3,180 miles, 39.6 hours, average speed: 80.3 mph, 4.9 gph Thanks to Larry, Karen Jim, John, and others for your hospitality. Took my wife out to dinner tonight for our 20th anniversary today. Steven Green


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    Time: 07:06:04 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: MV 2007
    From: "jimhefner" <hefner_jim@msn.com>
    Steven, I'm real glad to see you had a good uneventful flight home! It was real nice meeting you at MV. Hope to see you out this way again sometime. -------- Jim Hefner Tucson, AZ C-150F N150HF based at 57AZ Do Not Archive Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=114095#114095


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    Time: 07:07:24 PM PST US
    From: WhiskeyVictor36@aol.com
    Subject: Re: MV#5
    In a message dated 5/21/2007 4:34:28 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, hefner_jim@msn.com writes: The flying shots are not as good as they used to be in the Firefly, but I got a few decent shots JIM, I think you have some absolutely fantastic pics there. I've never been to MV so this is the only way I have to see what you guys are flying over. Beautiful. Thanks for posting them, Bill Varnes Original Kolb FireStar Audubon NJ Do Not Archive ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.


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    Time: 08:27:26 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: MV#5
    From: "jimhefner" <hefner_jim@msn.com>
    Ellery, Bill, I'm pleased that you enjoyed the photos. I wish all of you could experience this (flying around the monuments) one time... it's an incredible experience! We that are able to attend are very fortunate indeed so I'm happy to share my photos each year with all those that can't make it. I hope more new folks can make it each year. It is something you will never forget!... it's surreal to be flying around such beauty. I never get tired of it. Thanks for your kind feedback. -------- Jim Hefner Tucson, AZ C-150F N150HF based at 57AZ Do Not Archive Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=114106#114106


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    Time: 09:30:25 PM PST US
    From: "boyd" <by0ung@brigham.net>
    Subject: wont turn right
    > > Anyway, this Mark IIIC will not turn right in straight and level cruise. > The stick moves easily to the left but takes two hands to move it a even a > little bit to the right. If you put the plane in a climb or a descent, it > unloads the problem and allows the stick to move to the right. My suggestion..... don't fly till you figure something out.... I cant think of anything in the control of my mkIII that could cause that problem... I would look for a positional interference fit between the elevator and aileron control systems... maybe try forcing the aileron torque tube fore and aft while moving the stick.... could there be something cracked,,,, or something with some galling,,, or dirt/sand in a joint or bearing surface? Boyd




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