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1. 05:11 AM - Re: the things you find on the hangar floor ! (robert bean)
2. 07:20 AM - The FlagFly is sold..... (Don G)
3. 08:34 AM - Re: fixing tear in wing - duct tape solution? (Wade Lawicki)
4. 08:48 AM - Re: flight to MV-Larry C. (Gherkins Tim-rp3420)
5. 09:21 AM - Re: The FlagFly is sold..... (Richard Pike)
6. 12:33 PM - Re: flight to MV-Larry C. (Larry Cottrell)
7. 02:46 PM - Re: The FlagFly is sold..... (Don G)
8. 03:47 PM - Uncle Craig (Larry Bourne)
9. 07:02 PM - Re: flight to MV-Larry C. (WillUribe@aol.com)
10. 07:07 PM - Re: The FlagFly is sold..... (Denny Rowe)
11. 09:38 PM - Kolb Firestar II For Sale (Ken Vance)
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| Subject: | re: the things you find on the hangar floor ! |
Mr Funk also designed this in 1984
Has a familiar look about it
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| Subject: | The FlagFly is sold..... |
Gents, I Traded my FireFly this holiday weekend for a KitFox Speedster with a 912....It
was an easy deal as I didnt ask too much boot from the KitFox Owner!!!
hehe...
Anyway, It was surely hard to let my baby go as it has given me such joy and alot
more attention than I deserve. But, as my mission has changed, I believe the
2 seater will fullfill it well untill I get the next urge to change airplanes.
(an affliction I havent seemed to be able to shake!)
Travis and Donnie...Look for the new owner to contact you for a Kolb checkout,
they are just a hour or so south of you in Tennessee. Maybe now, at its new Home,
(KMOR) The FlagFly will finally be able to get to the Homecoming!....
AND.....In the future....if I cannot see well enough out of this KitFox, we will
see how you might trade for a Mk3???????
And BTW Matt D...I probably wouldnt have considered the trade if you didnt have
a Foxlist, as I consider matronics my go-to place for any knowledge I dont have....which
is plenty! You perform a service to the Homebuild world second to
none sir!
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Don G.
Central Illinois
FireFly#098
Luscombe 8A
http://www.geocities.com/dagger369th/my_firefly.htm
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=115197#115197
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| Subject: | Re: fixing tear in wing - duct tape solution? |
John,
I do the RC stuff too and found that model monokote patches work great!
had a few small holes on my FS 2 so I cut a few circles 1 inch bigger than than
damage, used a small iron at low heat and started from the outside inward
with great results and you can color match pretty well.
Wade
Nashville Tn.
FS 2
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http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=115205#115205
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| Subject: | flight to MV-Larry C. |
Larry,
That is interesting that you lost airspeed by completely enclosing the
fuselage? Did I read that right??
You'd think that the enclosure would clean up the aerodynamics and
increase your top speed. Does anyone else have any experience or data
with this? I am currently building a rear enclosure for my Firestar to
help gain a faster airspeed, or will I lose airspeed from it?
Tim Gherkins
FSII
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From: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Larry
Cottrell
Sent: Saturday, May 26, 2007 4:17 PM
Subject: Kolb-List: flight to MV
..... . I did find after I got home and went flying with John H and W
that after taking off the rear wrap around part of the enclosure that I
lost about 8 MPH by having it on. I couldn't have done without it on the
trip though, I needed something to hold my stuff in the plane.
Larry, Oregon
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| Subject: | Re: The FlagFly is sold..... |
Hey Don, KMOR is less than an hour from me, have him call me and I'll fill
him in on the local flying spots and who has fly-ins and cookouts.
Richard Pike
MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
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From: "Don G" <donghe@one-eleven.net>
Sent: Monday, May 28, 2007 10:20 AM
Subject: Kolb-List: The FlagFly is sold.....
>
> Gents, I Traded my FireFly this holiday weekend for a KitFox Speedster
> with a 912....It was an easy deal as I didnt ask too much boot from the
> KitFox Owner!!! hehe...
>
> Anyway, It was surely hard to let my baby go as it has given me such joy
> and alot more attention than I deserve. But, as my mission has changed, I
> believe the 2 seater will fullfill it well untill I get the next urge to
> change airplanes. (an affliction I havent seemed to be able to shake!)
>
> Travis and Donnie...Look for the new owner to contact you for a Kolb
> checkout, they are just a hour or so south of you in Tennessee. Maybe now,
> at its new Home, (KMOR) The FlagFly will finally be able to get to the
> Homecoming!....
> AND.....In the future....if I cannot see well enough out of this KitFox,
> we will see how you might trade for a Mk3???????
>
> And BTW Matt D...I probably wouldnt have considered the trade if you didnt
> have a Foxlist, as I consider matronics my go-to place for any knowledge I
> dont have....which is plenty! You perform a service to the Homebuild world
> second to none sir!
>
> --------
> Don G.
> Central Illinois
> FireFly#098
> Luscombe 8A
>
> http://www.geocities.com/dagger369th/my_firefly.htm
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=115197#115197
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: flight to MV-Larry C. |
Hi,
After flying better than 2000 miles with the enclosure on the rear
on the trip, I am positive it wasn't a fluke. You see when John H and W
as well as Roger got here, we put in better than 6 hours flying all over
the area here. Head and tail winds of course mixed. My ground speeds
were 6 to 8 mph faster, and the temps were still reasonable inside with
the heater on, since the air seems to be pulled back into the cone of
the enclosure. I know that I can smell gas when I refuel while I fly. If
it were me and I decided that I wanted a rear enclosure, I would make a
serious effort to keep it as clean and aerodynamic as possible, every
thing tapered to the rear, including the area at the rear of the cage. I
would still do a before and after test to see if it was worth it. The
picture shows how the front enclosure looks.
Larry, Oregon
----- Original Message -----
From: Gherkins Tim-rp3420
To: kolb-list@matronics.com
Sent: Monday, May 28, 2007 9:47 AM
Subject: RE: Kolb-List: flight to MV-Larry C.
Larry,
That is interesting that you lost airspeed by completely enclosing the
fuselage? Did I read that right??
You'd think that the enclosure would clean up the aerodynamics and
increase your top speed. Does anyone else have any experience or data
with this? I am currently building a rear enclosure for my Firestar to
help gain a faster airspeed, or will I lose airspeed from it?
Tim Gherkins
FSII
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From: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Larry
Cottrell
Sent: Saturday, May 26, 2007 4:17 PM
To: kolb-list@matronics.com
Subject: Kolb-List: flight to MV
..... . I did find after I got home and went flying with John H and W
that after taking off the rear wrap around part of the enclosure that I
lost about 8 MPH by having it on. I couldn't have done without it on the
trip though, I needed something to hold my stuff in the plane.
Larry, Oregon
href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kolb-List">http://www.matronic
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| Subject: | Re: The FlagFly is sold..... |
Rgr that Richard....He is a great Guy...Ex DC-3 pilot who lost medical. I will
give him your poop.....err...old poop that is!!!!..hehe
--------
Don G.
Central Illinois
FireFly#098
Luscombe 8A
http://www.geocities.com/dagger369th/my_firefly.htm
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=115246#115246
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"Uncle Craig," would you please contact me off List ?? Thanks
Lar.
Larry Bourne
Santa Fe, NM
www.gogittum.com
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| Subject: | flight to MV-Larry C. |
Hi Tim,
Sorry but the answer is yes, I fly slower with the full enclosure then when
I fly with the half windscreen. I can't figure it out but it's true. One of
my flying buddies has a Challenger with a 582. When I fly with the full
enclosure I have a hard time keeping up with him but when I have the half
windscreen I have no problem staying with him. He even commented he had a hard
time
catching up to me one time when I only had the half windscreen.
Regards,
Will Uribe
FireStar II N4GU
El Paso, TX
Back home from watching, for two weeks, farm tractors being built.
From: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Gherkins Tim-rp3420
Sent: Monday, May 28, 2007 9:48 AM
Subject: RE: Kolb-List: flight to MV-Larry C.
Larry,
That is interesting that you lost airspeed by completely enclosing the
fuselage? Did I read that right??
You'd think that the enclosure would clean up the aerodynamics and increase
your top speed. Does anyone else have any experience or data with this? I
am currently building a rear enclosure for my Firestar to help gain a faster
airspeed, or will I lose airspeed from it?
Tim Gherkins
FSII
____________________________________
From: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Larry Cottrell
Sent: Saturday, May 26, 2007 4:17 PM
Subject: Kolb-List: flight to MV
..... . I did find after I got home and went flying with John H and W that
after taking off the rear wrap around part of the enclosure that I lost about
8 MPH by having it on. I couldn't have done without it on the trip though, I
needed something to hold my stuff in the plane.
Larry, Oregon
************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.
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| Subject: | Re: The FlagFly is sold..... |
Gonna miss ya Don, keep in touch.
Denny
----- Original Message -----
From: "Don G" <donghe@one-eleven.net>
Sent: Monday, May 28, 2007 10:20 AM
Subject: Kolb-List: The FlagFly is sold.....
>
> Gents, I Traded my FireFly this holiday weekend for a KitFox Speedster
> with a 912....It was an easy deal as I didnt ask too much boot from the
> KitFox Owner!!! hehe...
>
> Anyway, It was surely hard to let my baby go as it has given me such joy
> and alot more attention than I deserve. But, as my mission has changed, I
> believe the 2 seater will fullfill it well untill I get the next urge to
> change airplanes. (an affliction I havent seemed to be able to shake!)
>
> Travis and Donnie...Look for the new owner to contact you for a Kolb
> checkout, they are just a hour or so south of you in Tennessee. Maybe now,
> at its new Home, (KMOR) The FlagFly will finally be able to get to the
> Homecoming!....
> AND.....In the future....if I cannot see well enough out of this KitFox,
> we will see how you might trade for a Mk3???????
>
> And BTW Matt D...I probably wouldnt have considered the trade if you didnt
> have a Foxlist, as I consider matronics my go-to place for any knowledge I
> dont have....which is plenty! You perform a service to the Homebuild world
> second to none sir!
>
> --------
> Don G.
> Central Illinois
> FireFly#098
> Luscombe 8A
>
> http://www.geocities.com/dagger369th/my_firefly.htm
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=115197#115197
>
>
> --
> 3:05 PM
>
>
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| Subject: | Kolb Firestar II For Sale |
Engine: Rotax 503, Dual Carbs, Single Ignition
Prop: "Ultra Prop", Composite, 4 Blades
Full Enclosure
Folding Wings
Electric Starter
Streamline Struts
Brakes
Wing Tip Strobes
10 Gallons Fuel
Stits Covering
Custom Upholstered Seats
E-Mailed photos available by request. Asking $8,500.
Ken Vance
Eaton, Ohio (Southwest Ohio, about 30 miles west of Dayton, Ohio)
937-456-9334 or vances@infinet.com
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