---------------------------------------------------------- Kolb-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Mon 05/28/07: 11 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 05:11 AM - Re: the things you find on the hangar floor ! (robert bean) 2. 07:20 AM - The FlagFly is sold..... (Don G) 3. 08:34 AM - Re: fixing tear in wing - duct tape solution? (Wade Lawicki) 4. 08:48 AM - Re: flight to MV-Larry C. (Gherkins Tim-rp3420) 5. 09:21 AM - Re: The FlagFly is sold..... (Richard Pike) 6. 12:33 PM - Re: flight to MV-Larry C. (Larry Cottrell) 7. 02:46 PM - Re: The FlagFly is sold..... (Don G) 8. 03:47 PM - Uncle Craig (Larry Bourne) 9. 07:02 PM - Re: flight to MV-Larry C. (WillUribe@aol.com) 10. 07:07 PM - Re: The FlagFly is sold..... (Denny Rowe) 11. 09:38 PM - Kolb Firestar II For Sale (Ken Vance) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 05:11:47 AM PST US From: robert bean Subject: Kolb-List: re: the things you find on the hangar floor ! Mr Funk also designed this in 1984 Has a familiar look about it BB do not archive pastedGraphic
________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 07:20:47 AM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: The FlagFly is sold..... From: "Don G" Gents, I Traded my FireFly this holiday weekend for a KitFox Speedster with a 912....It was an easy deal as I didnt ask too much boot from the KitFox Owner!!! hehe... Anyway, It was surely hard to let my baby go as it has given me such joy and alot more attention than I deserve. But, as my mission has changed, I believe the 2 seater will fullfill it well untill I get the next urge to change airplanes. (an affliction I havent seemed to be able to shake!) Travis and Donnie...Look for the new owner to contact you for a Kolb checkout, they are just a hour or so south of you in Tennessee. Maybe now, at its new Home, (KMOR) The FlagFly will finally be able to get to the Homecoming!.... AND.....In the future....if I cannot see well enough out of this KitFox, we will see how you might trade for a Mk3??????? And BTW Matt D...I probably wouldnt have considered the trade if you didnt have a Foxlist, as I consider matronics my go-to place for any knowledge I dont have....which is plenty! You perform a service to the Homebuild world second to none sir! -------- Don G. Central Illinois FireFly#098 Luscombe 8A http://www.geocities.com/dagger369th/my_firefly.htm Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=115197#115197 ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 08:34:09 AM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Re: fixing tear in wing - duct tape solution? From: "Wade Lawicki" John, I do the RC stuff too and found that model monokote patches work great! had a few small holes on my FS 2 so I cut a few circles 1 inch bigger than than damage, used a small iron at low heat and started from the outside inward with great results and you can color match pretty well. Wade Nashville Tn. FS 2 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=115205#115205 ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 08:48:12 AM PST US Subject: RE: Kolb-List: flight to MV-Larry C. From: "Gherkins Tim-rp3420" Larry, That is interesting that you lost airspeed by completely enclosing the fuselage? Did I read that right?? You'd think that the enclosure would clean up the aerodynamics and increase your top speed. Does anyone else have any experience or data with this? I am currently building a rear enclosure for my Firestar to help gain a faster airspeed, or will I lose airspeed from it? Tim Gherkins FSII ________________________________ From: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Larry Cottrell Sent: Saturday, May 26, 2007 4:17 PM Subject: Kolb-List: flight to MV ..... . I did find after I got home and went flying with John H and W that after taking off the rear wrap around part of the enclosure that I lost about 8 MPH by having it on. I couldn't have done without it on the trip though, I needed something to hold my stuff in the plane. Larry, Oregon ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 09:21:59 AM PST US From: "Richard Pike" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: The FlagFly is sold..... Hey Don, KMOR is less than an hour from me, have him call me and I'll fill him in on the local flying spots and who has fly-ins and cookouts. Richard Pike MKIII N420P (420ldPoops) do not archive ----- Original Message ----- From: "Don G" Sent: Monday, May 28, 2007 10:20 AM Subject: Kolb-List: The FlagFly is sold..... > > Gents, I Traded my FireFly this holiday weekend for a KitFox Speedster > with a 912....It was an easy deal as I didnt ask too much boot from the > KitFox Owner!!! hehe... > > Anyway, It was surely hard to let my baby go as it has given me such joy > and alot more attention than I deserve. But, as my mission has changed, I > believe the 2 seater will fullfill it well untill I get the next urge to > change airplanes. (an affliction I havent seemed to be able to shake!) > > Travis and Donnie...Look for the new owner to contact you for a Kolb > checkout, they are just a hour or so south of you in Tennessee. Maybe now, > at its new Home, (KMOR) The FlagFly will finally be able to get to the > Homecoming!.... > AND.....In the future....if I cannot see well enough out of this KitFox, > we will see how you might trade for a Mk3??????? > > And BTW Matt D...I probably wouldnt have considered the trade if you didnt > have a Foxlist, as I consider matronics my go-to place for any knowledge I > dont have....which is plenty! You perform a service to the Homebuild world > second to none sir! > > -------- > Don G. > Central Illinois > FireFly#098 > Luscombe 8A > > http://www.geocities.com/dagger369th/my_firefly.htm > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=115197#115197 > > > ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 12:33:11 PM PST US From: "Larry Cottrell" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: flight to MV-Larry C. Hi, After flying better than 2000 miles with the enclosure on the rear on the trip, I am positive it wasn't a fluke. You see when John H and W as well as Roger got here, we put in better than 6 hours flying all over the area here. Head and tail winds of course mixed. My ground speeds were 6 to 8 mph faster, and the temps were still reasonable inside with the heater on, since the air seems to be pulled back into the cone of the enclosure. I know that I can smell gas when I refuel while I fly. If it were me and I decided that I wanted a rear enclosure, I would make a serious effort to keep it as clean and aerodynamic as possible, every thing tapered to the rear, including the area at the rear of the cage. I would still do a before and after test to see if it was worth it. The picture shows how the front enclosure looks. Larry, Oregon ----- Original Message ----- From: Gherkins Tim-rp3420 To: kolb-list@matronics.com Sent: Monday, May 28, 2007 9:47 AM Subject: RE: Kolb-List: flight to MV-Larry C. Larry, That is interesting that you lost airspeed by completely enclosing the fuselage? Did I read that right?? You'd think that the enclosure would clean up the aerodynamics and increase your top speed. Does anyone else have any experience or data with this? I am currently building a rear enclosure for my Firestar to help gain a faster airspeed, or will I lose airspeed from it? Tim Gherkins FSII ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----- From: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Larry Cottrell Sent: Saturday, May 26, 2007 4:17 PM To: kolb-list@matronics.com Subject: Kolb-List: flight to MV ..... . I did find after I got home and went flying with John H and W that after taking off the rear wrap around part of the enclosure that I lost about 8 MPH by having it on. I couldn't have done without it on the trip though, I needed something to hold my stuff in the plane. Larry, Oregon href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kolb-List">http://www.matronic s.com/Navigator?Kolb-List href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 02:46:01 PM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Re: The FlagFly is sold..... From: "Don G" Rgr that Richard....He is a great Guy...Ex DC-3 pilot who lost medical. I will give him your poop.....err...old poop that is!!!!..hehe -------- Don G. Central Illinois FireFly#098 Luscombe 8A http://www.geocities.com/dagger369th/my_firefly.htm Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=115246#115246 ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 03:47:36 PM PST US From: "Larry Bourne" Subject: Kolb-List: Uncle Craig "Uncle Craig," would you please contact me off List ?? Thanks Lar. Larry Bourne Santa Fe, NM www.gogittum.com ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 07:02:57 PM PST US From: WillUribe@aol.com Subject: RE: Kolb-List: flight to MV-Larry C. Hi Tim, Sorry but the answer is yes, I fly slower with the full enclosure then when I fly with the half windscreen. I can't figure it out but it's true. One of my flying buddies has a Challenger with a 582. When I fly with the full enclosure I have a hard time keeping up with him but when I have the half windscreen I have no problem staying with him. He even commented he had a hard time catching up to me one time when I only had the half windscreen. Regards, Will Uribe FireStar II N4GU El Paso, TX Back home from watching, for two weeks, farm tractors being built. From: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Gherkins Tim-rp3420 Sent: Monday, May 28, 2007 9:48 AM Subject: RE: Kolb-List: flight to MV-Larry C. Larry, That is interesting that you lost airspeed by completely enclosing the fuselage? Did I read that right?? You'd think that the enclosure would clean up the aerodynamics and increase your top speed. Does anyone else have any experience or data with this? I am currently building a rear enclosure for my Firestar to help gain a faster airspeed, or will I lose airspeed from it? Tim Gherkins FSII ____________________________________ From: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Larry Cottrell Sent: Saturday, May 26, 2007 4:17 PM Subject: Kolb-List: flight to MV ..... . I did find after I got home and went flying with John H and W that after taking off the rear wrap around part of the enclosure that I lost about 8 MPH by having it on. I couldn't have done without it on the trip though, I needed something to hold my stuff in the plane. Larry, Oregon ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 07:07:42 PM PST US From: "Denny Rowe" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: The FlagFly is sold..... Gonna miss ya Don, keep in touch. Denny ----- Original Message ----- From: "Don G" Sent: Monday, May 28, 2007 10:20 AM Subject: Kolb-List: The FlagFly is sold..... > > Gents, I Traded my FireFly this holiday weekend for a KitFox Speedster > with a 912....It was an easy deal as I didnt ask too much boot from the > KitFox Owner!!! hehe... > > Anyway, It was surely hard to let my baby go as it has given me such joy > and alot more attention than I deserve. But, as my mission has changed, I > believe the 2 seater will fullfill it well untill I get the next urge to > change airplanes. (an affliction I havent seemed to be able to shake!) > > Travis and Donnie...Look for the new owner to contact you for a Kolb > checkout, they are just a hour or so south of you in Tennessee. Maybe now, > at its new Home, (KMOR) The FlagFly will finally be able to get to the > Homecoming!.... > AND.....In the future....if I cannot see well enough out of this KitFox, > we will see how you might trade for a Mk3??????? > > And BTW Matt D...I probably wouldnt have considered the trade if you didnt > have a Foxlist, as I consider matronics my go-to place for any knowledge I > dont have....which is plenty! You perform a service to the Homebuild world > second to none sir! > > -------- > Don G. > Central Illinois > FireFly#098 > Luscombe 8A > > http://www.geocities.com/dagger369th/my_firefly.htm > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=115197#115197 > > > -- > 3:05 PM > > ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 09:38:30 PM PST US From: "Ken Vance" Subject: Kolb-List: Kolb Firestar II For Sale Engine: Rotax 503, Dual Carbs, Single Ignition Prop: "Ultra Prop", Composite, 4 Blades Full Enclosure Folding Wings Electric Starter Streamline Struts Brakes Wing Tip Strobes 10 Gallons Fuel Stits Covering Custom Upholstered Seats E-Mailed photos available by request. Asking $8,500. 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