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1. 04:49 AM - Richard Pike (Don G)
2. 07:32 AM - Re: Fly-by (John Hauck)
3. 09:59 AM - Re: Fly-by (bklebon@aol.com)
4. 10:33 AM - Re: Fly-by (John Hauck)
5. 10:47 AM - Re: Fly-by (John Hauck)
6. 11:20 AM - Re: English/American (Ed Chmielewski)
7. 12:17 PM - Fly-in to Homer's (Terry)
8. 12:37 PM - Re: Fly-by (Don G)
9. 01:10 PM - Re: Re:447 Thrust (DAquaNut@aol.com)
10. 01:21 PM - Re: Re: 447 thrust (DAquaNut@aol.com)
11. 02:45 PM - Re: 447 Thrust (The BaronVonEvil)
12. 03:11 PM - q (russ kinne)
13. 03:24 PM - Re: Re:447 Thrust (Robert Laird)
14. 04:28 PM - Re: Re: The FlagFly is sold..... (Richard Pike)
15. 04:56 PM - Re: Re: 447 Thrust (John Hauck)
16. 06:12 PM - trade Firestar II for Firefly? (Al Bumhoffer)
17. 06:18 PM - Re: Re: 447 Thrust (Richard Pike)
18. 07:59 PM - Re: The FlagFly is sold..... (Don G)
19. 10:27 PM - Re: Re: UK Regs (George Bass)
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Richard, I need to get ahold of you. My Email address is donghe@one-eleven.net
regarding Kolbs in eastern tennessee and ky.
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Don G.
Central Illinois
FireFly#098
Luscombe 8A
http://www.geocities.com/dagger369th/my_firefly.htm
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at the Alvord. My wife Dayna ran the sound board.
| 1992 KXP 503
Roger:
Glad I do not have to feed the Merlin!
john h
mkIII
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Does anyone have an address for Homer's? My wife has a dog show in Ludwig's Corner
the weekend of the fly-in, so I will be driving to the gathering. An address
would be nice for the GPS to get me there.
THANKS!
-----Original Message-----
From: John Hauck <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
Sent: Sun, 3 Jun 2007 10:31 am
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Fly-by
at the Alvord. My wife Dayna ran the sound board.
| 1992 KXP 503
Roger:
Glad I do not have to feed the Merlin!
john h
mkIII
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Kolb, Homer
580 Wall St
Phoenixville, PA 19460
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| Kolb, Homer
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| 580 Wall St
| Phoenixville, PA 19460
Unkown requester:
The above is the address from the directory. Do not use it.
Try this one that will work in your GPS:
580 S Wall St
Spring City, PA 19475
Unknown sender
mkIII
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| Subject: | Re: English/American |
Pat,
Pulleeze, enough is enough! The US and UK may have different
airworthiness standards for ultralights but, judging from the British and
American UL publications, there is not that big a difference in the
aircraft. You make it sound as if most US ultralights wouldn't make it past
the oh-so-stringent UK inspections. While your regs may be different, they
sound like more of a big pain than having to do with safety. I'd take our
system over yours any day. Much more simple, and a lot more freedom (as you
recently experienced at MV).
----- Original Message -----
From: "pat ladd" <pj.ladd@btinternet.com>
Sent: Friday, June 01, 2007 12:25 PM
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: English/American
>
> Does the UK allow for UL un-certificated pilots and the UL vehicles to
> go without annual condition inspection?>>
>
> Hi Thom,
> There is no such thing as an un-certificated pilot here. A Pilots licence
> normally allows flying a plane up to a certain weight. Below the
> Ultralight weight limit of 450 k there are certain allowances and a
> microlight licence will not entitle piloting a GA machine.
How does this answer Thom's question?
(Snip)
. Each countries manufacturers
> have until now had to get a plane through its own countries hoops and then
> all the other countries as well. Although our Section `S` is well regarded
> as a bench mark.
By whom? Never heard of it.
(Snip)
> I didn`t mention in my post the angst which our PFA Chief Engineer had to
> go through as he explained to a nice old chap, over tea and cucumber
> sandwiches naturally, that the plane on which he had lavished hundreds of
> hours of work and a pile of money was a flying coffin fit only for the
> scrap heap. Thats when he earns his money.
What aircraft, and when? (If he's "volunteer, unpaid", how does he "earn
his money"?) We have a saying here, "You get what you pay for".
> The regs we have are a pain in the butt but a first time builder can be
> confident that with an approved kit, the building of which has been
> checked by (Volunteer, unpaid) inspectors and on which the test flying has
> been properly conducted will not bite him. It will not vicously drop a
> wing when stalled. The engine will not die from fuel starvation during a
> full throttle climb out.
Again, what instances/aircraft are you citing? What training/standards do
the inspectors meet? Are they all Aircraft/Aerospace Engineers?
In fact if he has trouble it is probably the pilot , not the
> plane. More importantly perhaps the guy with little experience who buys it
> second or third hand can be equally confident that basically the design
> and build is sound and he can sell it without the possibility of being
> sued if things go wrong.
Anyone who buys a used aircraft and doesn't have it inspected (by an A&P or
IA) is foolish, wouldn't you agree?
The days of 'shade-tree' design and manufacture are fortunately long gone.
Even the most basic designs are able to be produced using computer-based
engineering programs, taking the guesswork out of stress-analysis and such.
Sorry to the List in general, but I'm not the only one here who finds your
continued 'US-bashing' offensive. Our two countries have different ways to
meet aircraft safety requirements. I happen to believe ours is a better
system, but that's my opinion and I'm gentleman enough to keep it to myself.
I would prefer you do the same.
Ed in JXN
MkII/503
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| Subject: | Fly-in to Homer's |
Gentlemen,
It's time to get a count of how many are planing on coming to Clara &
Homer Kolb's Father's Day Fly-in on Saturday June 16th. I need to let
them know how many are coming so that they may prepare for the group.
If you name isn't already on the list, please add it or let me know in
the next couple of days. Also, if your name is on the list, but you
now find you can't make it, let me know! Hope to see many of you there!
For those flying there:
Co-ordinates: N 40 deg 09' 36.3" Also you can check,
Airnav.com for more information.
W 075 deg 32' 46.6"
John Hauck gave the address for those driving there, so you should be
able to look it up on a mapping program.
Those that said they are coming so far: "Add your name if it's not
listed".
Gene Zimmerman
John Hauck
Wilmer Zimmerman
John Murr
Earl Zimmerman
Eddy Zimmerman
Luray Weachter
Steve Green
Ron - from Arizona?
Thom Riddle
Bob Bean
Chuck Davis
George Alexander
Bill Varnes
Alan Mancus
Scott Olendorf
Dave Kulp
Dan Walter
Rick Kelbon
Bob Bennethum
& Me
Terry - Firefly #95
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WAHOOOO>..Boy oh Boy John...that rotax sure does sound good! Nuttin quite sounds
as good as a 1500 hp Kolb!
--------
Don G.
Central Illinois
Kitfox IV Speedster
Luscombe 8A
http://www.geocities.com/dagger369th/my_firefly.htm
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************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.
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Group,
I finally got around to flying the firefly Fri. evening after doing a
decarbon. She fired right up and seems to idle a little smoother but I ran out
of
time. I had to reset the Ivo to 6250 static as she was almost making 6800 rpm
in level flight. How do I verify the 447 is making full HP. I had the prop
off, so even though I have adjusted the pitch to obtain 6250 rpm ,I do not know
if the pitch is the same as it was before,so I dont know for sure I f it is
putting out full power. How do I go about doing this check?
Ed Diebel FF #62<BR><BR><BR>**************************************<BR>
See what's
free at http://www.aol.com.
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Hi Ed,
Did you check the pitch of the prop prior to adjusting it ? Do you know if you
had to increase or decrease the pitch after the decarb? This in itself would
give you an idea what is going on with your engine.
I believe the max rpm for a 447 (depending on model) is 6800rpm. If you are hitting
that in level flight I would say you are about pitched right for cruise.
Do you recall what any of the engine temps were prior to decarb? If everything
else is the same, than cooler running temps would indicate an engine that isnt
having to work as hard to make the same power.
I hope this helps
Best Regards
Carlos G.
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List
I'm sorry to see what looks like some unnecessary antagonism here --
specifically between USA and UK pilots.
Come on! -- I for one haven't seen what I'd consider any "continual
US-bashing", and I don't see any "continual Brit-bashing" either.
And I hope I don't, and we don't need that!! -- or anything like that.
I am interested in seeing how the Brit regs are different from the US
ones -- and am indebted to Pat for supplying that info.
Our regs are more lenient than theirs, and fuel prices lower too (how
would you like $11/gallon?) but we should all be thankful for that,
not make any accusations or cause our friends-across-the-Pond any
discomfort. They're Friends! -- please try to remember that.
Let's also remember to jump all over our elected politicians every
time they're off-base about User Fees and whatever the next anti-
aviation proposal is. If enough of us bitch a lot, they'll listen --
that's (supposed to be at least) how Democracy works.
Been working for 231 years now and I sure hope it continues.
But it won't, without Us Guys speaking up when we should.
AOPA is doing a fine job for all of us here.
Russ Kinne
Kolb-related but no need to archive
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You just gotta love Ed... a man of few words... ;-)
-- Robert
On 6/3/07, DAquaNut@aol.com <DAquaNut@aol.com> wrote:
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> ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.
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| Subject: | Re: The FlagFly is sold..... |
richard@bcchapel.org
or
423-323-9441
The fellow in Morristown who bought your Flagfly called me, I gave him the
phone # of a local ultralight instructor to contact, so things might be
going in the right direction.
rp
Richard Pike
MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
do not archive
----- Original Message -----
From: "Don G" <donghe@one-eleven.net>
Sent: Saturday, June 02, 2007 8:01 AM
Subject: Kolb-List: Re: The FlagFly is sold.....
>
> Richard Pike.....How do I get in touch with you?
>
> --------
> Don G.
> Central Illinois
> FireFly#098
> Luscombe 8A
>
> http://www.geocities.com/dagger369th/my_firefly.htm
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=116029#116029
>
>
>
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| I believe the max rpm for a 447 (depending on model) is 6800rpm. If
you are hitting that in level flight I would say you are about pitched
right for cruise.
| Carlos G.
Carlos:
Was wondering if max continuous rpm would be better to prop a fixed
pitch prop??? That would be more in the order of 6,500 rpm.
Most all the Rotax two strokes have the same limits:
6,500 rpm max continuous
6,800 rpm max power for 5 minutes
The exception may be the 618 and the old 532. Have not taken the time
to check the manuals on the Kodiak web site.
john h
mkIII
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| Subject: | trade Firestar II for Firefly? |
I'm just wondering if anyone on the Kolb list would be interested in a
trading their Firefly for my Firestar II. I an not going the sport
pilot route and would like to get closer to the legal weight. I find I
am not using the 2nd seat like I though I would. Please contact me off
list or call 989-375-2733. Al
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No, you are right on. If you prop the 532 for 6,800 max, the egt's tend to
run way too high at cruise. I propped my 532 for 6,400 max because if I
took any pitch out for more than that, the egt's got weird. 6,500 would have
given a slightly better climb, but 6,400 gave me very stable egt's.
Richard Pike
MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
----- Original Message -----
From: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
Sent: Sunday, June 03, 2007 7:56 PM
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: 447 Thrust
>
>
> you are hitting that in level flight I would say you are about pitched
> right for cruise.
>
>
> Carlos:
>
> Was wondering if max continuous rpm would be better to prop a fixed
> pitch prop??? That would be more in the order of 6,500 rpm.
>
> Most all the Rotax two strokes have the same limits:
>
> 6,500 rpm max continuous
> 6,800 rpm max power for 5 minutes
>
> The exception may be the 618 and the old 532. Have not taken the time
> to check the manuals on the Kodiak web site.
>
> john h
> mkIII
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> DO NOT ARCHIVE
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| Subject: | Re: The FlagFly is sold..... |
Thx a Mil Richard....I am sure he is a fine pilot, but transitioning from a DC-3
to a FireFly might be a little tricky!
--------
Don G.
Central Illinois
Kitfox IV Speedster
Luscombe 8A
http://www.geocities.com/dagger369th/my_firefly.htm
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The following was taken from a post in another group:
================
On the 30th of April the CAA issued an exemption, which allows
single-seat
microlights, having an empty weight of less than 115 Kg (approx. 254
lbs), &
an empty wing loading of less than 10 Kg per square metre, to fly in the
UK,
without a permit to fly, design investigation, formal flight tests or
annual inspections.
The only requirement for the aeroplane is that it must have the
appropriate
level of 3rd party insurance, & a noise certificate, issued by the CAA,
which
may require a noise measurement flight test.
Full details of this new class of aeroplane, & guidance on some of the
designs
already available will be found in the June 2007 issue of `Popular
Flying', due
out shortly.
(10 KG = 22.046 lbs, & 1 square meter = 10.76391 square feet) [I
think]
Hope this helps in the understanding of the SIMILARITY between the UK &
the US
MICROLIGHT / ULTRALIGHT categories.
George Bass
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