---------------------------------------------------------- Kolb-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Mon 06/11/07: 17 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 03:32 AM - prop (tc1917) 2. 07:20 AM - Re: From 3 Blade to 2 Blade prop (Vince Nicely) 3. 07:24 AM - Fly-in to Homer's (Terry) 4. 07:24 AM - Re: From 3 Blade to 2 Blade prop (Ralph B) 5. 08:55 AM - Re: Fly-in to Homer's (bklebon@aol.com) 6. 09:38 AM - FireFly Tailwheel Spring Failure (Jack B. Hart) 7. 09:40 AM - MV (pat ladd) 8. 09:40 AM - Re: Fly-in to Homer's (Terry) 9. 11:45 AM - Re: Ms Dixie update (Paul Petty) 10. 01:51 PM - New topic: Loctite (Dwight Kottke) 11. 02:19 PM - Re: New topic: Loctite (Dana Hague) 12. 05:09 PM - Re: From 3 Blade to 2 Blade prop (planecrazzzy) 13. 05:29 PM - Re: FireFly Tailwheel Spring Failure (Dana Hague) 14. 05:54 PM - Re: FireFly Tailwheel Spring Failure (Richard Pike) 15. 07:10 PM - Re: FireFly Tailwheel Spring Failure (HShack@aol.com) 16. 07:14 PM - Re: FireFly Tailwheel Spring Failure (HShack@aol.com) 17. 09:58 PM - EIS (Engine Information System) (John H Murphy) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 03:32:21 AM PST US From: "tc1917" Subject: Kolb-List: prop Just want to say that when I folded my firestar with a single blade, I always go verticle with it but I take a large piece of foam with a cut in the center and slide it on the down prop blade. It sits on the boom and the wings cradle it on both sides. very stable to trailer. I also do the same thing with my sling shot, three blade warp or ivo. pad the down blade with a large piece of foam. You have to pad or tie your blad when it is in the horizontal if you intend on trailering. Otherwise it woulds smake your ail. tubes. just wanted to add my two cents. Ted Cowan, Alabama. p.s. If I was trailering for a long distance, as you would buying or selling your plane, get yourself an industrial roll of clear wrap and litterly mummify your plane. it will get there safe without vibration and mostly dry if you do it right. easy to cut off. it will also keep your wing from falling off the wing holders. ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 07:20:24 AM PST US From: Vince Nicely Subject: Re: Kolb-List: From 3 Blade to 2 Blade prop Mike, I fold my Firestar II with Ivo 2-blade prop and prop. extension. With the prop horizontal, there is a little over 1" clearance of the prop to the aileron tube on each side. However, the ailerons are folded down. If they were up, there might be a problem. Vince Nicely FirestarII 450 Hrs > Something I don't understand.... > > When I folded the plane up at the end of the day (cheaper hanger rent) > > The aileron tubes were being "bowed" from pushing on the prop.... > > I ended up putting the prop straight up & down.... > > Does anybody elses do that....I built that area "Stock" > > Maybe only the Tennesse prop will fold like that ??? > > Gotta Fly... > Mike & "Jaz" in MN / N381PM > > ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 07:24:51 AM PST US From: Terry Subject: Kolb-List: Fly-in to Homer's Gentlemen, I will be at Smoketown Airport at 8:30 am on Sat. the 16th. to form up a group of flyers to make the flight to Homer's farm. It makes an impressive event to have a group of Kolb's all come at the same time as we did in the past. Anyone wishing to join us, please do so! Looking forward to another great day of flying and meeting fellow Kolb pilots and of course spending time with Clara and Homer. See you then, Terry - FireFly #95 DO NOT ARCHIVE ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 07:24:51 AM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Re: From 3 Blade to 2 Blade prop From: "Ralph B" I always fold mine with the prop horizontal as it won't fit in my garage with it vertical. I have an Ivo 2-blade. It was a nice flight yesterday with smooth air. Ralph -------- Ralph B Original Firestar 20 years flying it Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=117785#117785 ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 08:55:13 AM PST US Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Fly-in to Homer's From: bklebon@aol.com Terry, ???? Approx. what time are you getting to the Kolb's? I will be driving up from Maryland. Thanks for keeping us all informed and helping make this all possible! Also do you have an idea if there is any food item I could bring to add to the spread? ?????????????????? Rick Klebon -----Original Message----- From: Terry Sent: Mon, 11 Jun 2007 10:23 am Subject: Kolb-List: Fly-in to Homer's Gentlemen, I will be at Smoketown Airport at 8:30 am on Sat. the 16th. to form up a group of flyers to make the flight to Homer's farm.? It makes an impressive event to have a group of Kolb's all come at the same time as we did in the past.? Anyone wishing to join us, please do so! Looking forward to another great day of flying and meeting fellow Kolb pilots and of course spending time with Clara and Homer. See you then, Terry -? FireFly #95 DO NOT ARCHIVE ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 09:38:50 AM PST US From: "Jack B. Hart" Subject: Kolb-List: FireFly Tailwheel Spring Failure FireFlyer's & Kolbers Experienced a second spring failure. Fourteen landings after the right tail wheel spring broke the left spring failed. No ground loop this time. Both of these springs failed in the same way. I took a photo. It can be seen at: http://www.thirdshift.com/jack/firefly/firefly132.html Since all of this happened at the same time the tailwheel tire wore away, it may not be a bad thing to replace these springs every time you replace the tailwheel. Jack B. Hart FF004 Winchester, IN ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 09:40:06 AM PST US From: "pat ladd" Subject: Kolb-List: MV Hi All, I am trying to knock together an article on the MV Fly-in which I will try and get published in our Microlight mag. I have a few notes but it would be a help if participants could let me have some details of their flights to MV and Back. Where they came from, what plane and engine, time taken, hours flown, distance flown, weather, problems etc. The regime you fly under,. Ultralight, Sports Pilot, Experimental etc wouldalso be interesting. Just the facts, man. I will put it all together. Cheers Pat ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 09:40:23 AM PST US From: Terry Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Fly-in to Homer's bklebon@aol.com wrote: > Terry, > > Approx. what time are you getting to the Kolb's? I will be > driving up from Maryland. Thanks for keeping us all informed and > helping make this all possible! Also do you have an idea if there is > any food item I could bring to add to the spread? > Rick Klebon > Rick, We will probably arrive around 9:30 or so, tough to get everybody moving! No need to bring anything, Clara & Homer have it all taken care of. See you there. Terry - Firefly #95 DO NOT ARCHIVE ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 11:45:38 AM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Ms Dixie update From: "Paul Petty" Ms Dixie gets her N-Number do not archive -------- Paul Petty Kolbra #12 Ms Dixie Final assembly! Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=117843#117843 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/p6100041_132.jpg ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 01:51:25 PM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: New topic: Loctite From: Dwight Kottke The Loctite line of thread adhesives hasn't been talked about much here so I thought I would bring it up. I use it regularly on nuts and bolts in hazardous locations, but how about a couple of drops on a new cable before you crimp on a new ferrule? What do you boys think? Dwight Kottke Minnesota Flying Farmer Firestar 377 ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 02:19:33 PM PST US From: Dana Hague Subject: Re: Kolb-List: New topic: Loctite At 04:14 PM 6/11/2007, Dwight Kottke wrote: >The Loctite line of thread adhesives hasn't been talked about much here so >I thought I would bring it up. I use it regularly on nuts and bolts in >hazardous locations, but how about a couple of drops on a new cable before >you crimp on a new ferrule? What do you boys think? I wouldn't. The nicopress sleeves are designed to hold the full rated strength of the cable. Adding anything else could conceivably reduce the strength. -Dana -- -- Most politicians aren't crooks, but the ones that are sure are making the other 10 percent look bad. ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 05:09:41 PM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Re: From 3 Blade to 2 Blade prop From: "planecrazzzy" Thanks Guys.... I forgot that I had my ailerons straight up instead of folded inside the tail area.... I've been doing it that way so long because of them rubbing on the tail surface during transport... ( it didn't matter with a three blade ) Gotta Fly... Mike & "Jaz" in MN PS Yes Ralph it was GREAT flying Sunday.... Nobody showed up at the airpark.... I asked Corky " what's wrong , weather not crappy enough for you ???... Maybe his knuckles were still white from the day before... -------- .. .. .. .. .. Do Not Archive Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=117914#117914 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/aileron_support_190.jpg ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 05:29:16 PM PST US From: Dana Hague Subject: Re: Kolb-List: FireFly Tailwheel Spring Failure At 01:50 PM 6/11/2007, Jack B. Hart wrote: > >Experienced a second spring failure....it may not be a bad thing to >replace these springs every time you replace the tailwheel... Not a surprising failure; it broke at the most highly stressed point. Metal fatigue is an issue, especially if the tailwheel shimmies. I went through quite a few springs when I had my T-Craft. Some of the guys used drawbar springs like this one: http://www.mcmaster.com/param/images/extension/safetydrawbara.gif These last much longer. I couldn't use one like that since I couldn't fine one that would fit, and still be soft enough to let my swivel tailwheel pop out of the detent when necessary. BTW, I browsed through the other pages in your "Firefly Slide Show", and there is a lot of good information there. Is there an index page? I couldn't find one. -Dana -- -- Most politicians aren't crooks, but the ones that are sure are making the other 10 percent look bad. ________________________________ Message 14 ____________________________________ Time: 05:54:29 PM PST US From: "Richard Pike" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: FireFly Tailwheel Spring Failure Make your own drawbar spring like that. A couple lengths of model airplane piano wire bent to shape, spring from Loew's... Richard Pike MKIII N420P (420ldPoops) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dana Hague" Sent: Monday, June 11, 2007 8:28 PM Subject: Re: Kolb-List: FireFly Tailwheel Spring Failure Some of the guys > used drawbar springs like this one: > > http://www.mcmaster.com/param/images/extension/safetydrawbara.gif > > These last much longer. I couldn't use one like that since I couldn't > fine one that would fit, and still be soft enough to let my swivel > tailwheel pop out of the detent when necessary. >> -Dana ________________________________ Message 15 ____________________________________ Time: 07:10:18 PM PST US From: HShack@aol.com Subject: Re: Kolb-List: FireFly Tailwheel Spring Failure In a message dated 6/11/2007 8:55:18 PM Eastern Daylight Time, richard@bcchapel.org writes: Make your own drawbar spring like that. A couple lengths of model airplane piano wire bent to shape, spring from Loew's... Lowe's has them, but not in the spring dept.; they are in the "door" section. They come two in a bubble-wrap pak; used to close a screen door [?]. Howard Shackleford FS II SC ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. ________________________________ Message 16 ____________________________________ Time: 07:14:58 PM PST US From: HShack@aol.com Subject: Re: Kolb-List: FireFly Tailwheel Spring Failure In a message dated 6/11/2007 10:11:01 PM Eastern Daylight Time, HShack@aol.com writes: Lowe's has them, but not in the spring dept.; they are in the "door" section. They come two in a bubble-wrap pak; used to close a screen door [?]. There is a bit of chain attached you'll want to remove. Don't forget to buy some of the recommended chain & "S" hooks. Howard Shackleford FS II SC ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. ________________________________ Message 17 ____________________________________ Time: 09:58:33 PM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: EIS (Engine Information System) From: "John H Murphy" I'm thinking about installing a EIS in my FS II after looking at John Williamson's Kolbra aircraft at the Jean airport. Is there a requirment to have a battery to operate this thing? Has anybody retrofitted their aircraft with one? I'm guessing I will have to order a new panel from Kolb. My aircraft has EGT/CHT, airspeed, Hobbs and a variety of gauges that can be replaced by the EIS. 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