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1. 12:39 AM - Re: New topic: Loctite (Richard Girard)
2. 03:29 AM - Re: Fly-in to Homer'sFly-in to Homer's (Thom Riddle)
3. 05:59 AM - Re: FireFly Tailwheel Spring Failure (robert bean)
4. 07:59 AM - Re: From 3 Blade to 2 Blade prop (lucien)
5. 07:59 AM - Re: EIS (Engine Information System) (JetPilot)
6. 08:27 AM - Re: EIS (Engine Information System) (Bob Noyer)
7. 08:31 AM - Uncle John's Fly-In June 16-17 (Richard & Martha Neilsen)
8. 08:48 AM - Re: FireFly Tailwheel Spring Failure (Richard & Martha Neilsen)
9. 09:23 AM - Re: Uncle John's Fly-In June 16-17 (Arksey@aol.com)
10. 12:55 PM - 503 fuel pump weep hole makes a mess (Tom Jones)
11. 01:24 PM - Re: 503 fuel pump weep hole makes a mess (Richard Pike)
12. 02:27 PM - Re: From 3 Blade to 2 Blade prop (planecrazzzy)
13. 02:51 PM - Re: 503 fuel pump weep hole makes a mess (olendorf)
14. 03:10 PM - Re: 503 fuel pump weep hole makes a mess (planecrazzzy)
15. 04:27 PM - Re: 503 fuel pump weep hole makes a mess (Tom Jones)
16. 06:18 PM - Re: Re: 503 fuel pump weep hole makes a mess (possums)
17. 07:20 PM - Re: Re: 503 fuel pump weep hole makes a mess (Malcolmbru@aol.com)
18. 09:20 PM - Re: 503 fuel pump weep hole makes a mess (Tom Jones)
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| Subject: | Re: New topic: Loctite |
Dwight, The Loctite line of threadlockers are anerobic (sp?) adhesives,
meaning they only work in the absence of oxygen. While you might be able to
get a small area inside the sleeve to seal well enough to get the Loctite to
cure, by and large the effort would be wasted. Nicopress swaging sleeves and
stops have worked for over 50 years as they are designed to do. They can be
a big enough of a PITA to put on dry, I can't imagine what kind of mess
they'd be with a liquid added to the process. MHO
Rick
On 6/11/07, Dana Hague <d-m-hague@comcast.net> wrote:
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> At 04:14 PM 6/11/2007, Dwight Kottke wrote:
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> The Loctite line of thread adhesives hasn't been talked about much here so
> I thought I would bring it up. I use it regularly on nuts and bolts in
> hazardous locations, but how about a couple of drops on a new cable before
> you crimp on a new ferrule? What do you boys think?
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>
> I wouldn't. The nicopress sleeves are designed to hold the full rated
> strength of the cable. Adding anything else could conceivably *reduce*the strength.
>
> -Dana
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> Most politicians aren't crooks, but the ones that are sure are making the
> other 10 percent look bad.
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"Ya'll drop on in"
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when you live at the airport.
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| Subject: | Re: Fly-in to Homer'sFly-in to Homer's |
Bob Bean and I are hoping to arrive at Kolb Airport at about 10:00 AM
or so. We will be stopping at Bloomsburg, PA (N13) for fuel en route.
Thom in Buffalo
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| Subject: | Re: FireFly Tailwheel Spring Failure |
I use the same springs on my MkIII in combination with the TNK
breakaway wheel.
To get it all to work happily together I machined the breakaway
internals to break at a
greater angle, added a spacer to the internal spring for more
positive action, and run the yoke springs at near
full compression. I now have more positive control and can make a
good turn with no brakes.
A 3/32" dome head rivet fits perfectly inside the internal spring.
Careful taking it apart because
those tiny parts will pop out of sight.
BB
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| Subject: | Re: From 3 Blade to 2 Blade prop |
Yeah, the IVO prop is like that in the typical 2-blade configuration. It tends
to be stalled when run static, giving an unreliable load when running it on the
ground. Once airflow starts going through the prop disk, the blades unstall
and you get the actual load you'll see in flight....
Kind of a pain.... you have to do the land-set-fly-land-set thing to get it just
right....
My FSII has a 3 blade prop and the original builder fashioned a little boot that
goes over the blade that sits between the wings when they're folded. That keeps
it from tearing up the fabric.
About 6mos. ago, though, I transported the plane from TX to new mexico on its open
trailer (don't ever want to go that far on the open trailer again) and at
the end of it, the prop had put a depression in the fabric on the one side. I
run the clutch so the prop was free to freewheel up against the fabric...
oops.... fortunately, going over the spot carefully with a heat gun took the "dent"
right out....
LS
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| Subject: | Re: EIS (Engine Information System) |
I love the EIS, it allows you to set all the limits that you are comfortable with
for your engine and gives you an alarm if any of those are exceeded. Most
of the time your oil pressure gets low, or your EGT gets high when you are not
looking at the guage, with the EIS you get a flashing light that you cant miss
no matter where you eyes are when it happens. Its well worth doing.
Mike
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| Subject: | Re: EIS (Engine Information System) |
I like my EIS very much. Have no batt...just runs off 447 and VR.
regards,
Bob N. FireFly 070 Old Kolb
http://www.angelfire.com/rpg/ronoy/
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| Subject: | Uncle John's Fly-In June 16-17 |
I'm planning to fly to the Fly-in at Uncle John's Cider Mill this week
end depending on weather. Is anyone else on the list going? I haven't
decided which day I'm going but it's close so I could go both days.
I don't know if there are any activities planned. Does anyone have any
details? I see some phone numbers and haven't called yet but I can if I
don't hear.
Rick Neilsen
Redrive VW powered MKIIIC
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| Subject: | Re: FireFly Tailwheel Spring Failure |
I also have the compression springs and the TNK breakaway tail wheel. I set
up my springs to be just barely tight but found that as originally
configured the tail wheel would not rotate far enough to break and go into
full swivel. I had to drill the bellcrank/arm on the tail wheel and attach
the springs closer to the pivot point. Now I have a very positive control
over the tail wheel and it will break into full swivel just as I hit full
travel on the rudder. I have never had the tail wheel break to full swivel
with this set up unexpectedly so I'm not sure what you would gain by adding
a spacer to the breakaway spring. When I was using the TNK tension springs
that came with the tail wheel it would break away in cross winds but not
since I started using the compression springs.
Rick Neilsen
Redrive VW powered MKIIIC
----- Original Message -----
From: "robert bean" <slyck@frontiernet.net>
Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2007 8:58 AM
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: FireFly Tailwheel Spring Failure
>
> I use the same springs on my MkIII in combination with the TNK breakaway
> wheel.
> To get it all to work happily together I machined the breakaway internals
> to break at a
> greater angle, added a spacer to the internal spring for more positive
> action, and run the yoke springs at near
> full compression. I now have more positive control and can make a good
> turn with no brakes.
>
> A 3/32" dome head rivet fits perfectly inside the internal spring.
> Careful taking it apart because
> those tiny parts will pop out of sight.
> BB
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Uncle John's Fly-In June 16-17 |
Hi Rick,
I plan on going to Uncle John's fly in sat. and maybe sun. depending on
weather. here is web site with some info.
_http://www.mid-mich-eagles-ultralight-club.com/fathersday.html_
(http://www.mid-mich-eagles-ultralight-club.com/fathersday.html)
jim swan firestar ll 503 michigan
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| Subject: | 503 fuel pump weep hole makes a mess |
I have a kitfox with a 503 Rotax. There aren't many people that will talk about
them on the kitfox list so wonder if I might hear some opinions from you folks.
Fuel slobers out of the fuel pump weep hole and makes a mess on my firewall. I
have only 14 hours on the plane now and thought it was a defective fuel pump
so put a new one on but it does the same thing.
I zip tied a 3/4 inch plastic tube under the hole to catch the weeping fuel. It
is still inconvenient because the catch tube is full after about two hours so
I have to remember to empty it often. Is this a common problem with the 503?
The people with 582s have never mentioned it. Is there a different remedy
for the slobering fuel pump?
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Tom Jones
Classic IV, Phase one
503, Warp
Ellensburg, WA
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| Subject: | Re: 503 fuel pump weep hole makes a mess |
Sure. Replace it with an electric Facet pump. (Assuming that the pump is
below the level of your fuel tanks. In the wings? Not sure where the Kitfox
tank is )
Or run a long catch tube down the firewall so it dumps the fuel overboard
along the belly.
Not as noticable that way...
Richard Pike
MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
----- Original Message -----
From: "Tom Jones" <nahsikhs@elltel.net>
Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2007 3:55 PM
Subject: Kolb-List: 503 fuel pump weep hole makes a mess
>
> I have a kitfox with a 503 Rotax. There aren't many people that will talk
> about them on the kitfox list so wonder if I might hear some opinions from
> you folks.
>
> Fuel slobers out of the fuel pump weep hole and makes a mess on my
> firewall. I have only 14 hours on the plane now and thought it was a
> defective fuel pump so put a new one on but it does the same thing.
>
> I zip tied a 3/4 inch plastic tube under the hole to catch the weeping
> fuel. It is still inconvenient because the catch tube is full after about
> two hours so I have to remember to empty it often. Is this a common
> problem with the 503? The people with 582s have never mentioned it. Is
> there a different remedy for the slobering fuel pump?
>
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> Tom Jones
> Classic IV, Phase one
> 503, Warp
> Ellensburg, WA
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>
> Read this topic online here:
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> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=118081#118081
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| Subject: | Re: From 3 Blade to 2 Blade prop |
I've read about a guy putting a hole in his fabric with the prop...
So even with the 3 blade set-up I've had a "foam block" that slips
onto the end of the prop , and it rests on the boom tube....
One thing about this site....You can learn from other peoples mistakes.
and prevent it from happening to you... ( sometimes )
Gotta Fly...
Mike & "Jaz" in MN
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| Subject: | Re: 503 fuel pump weep hole makes a mess |
I've never seen more that a couple tiny condensation drops appear in my pulse line.
Something is amiss. It doesn't sound normal to me. No fuel should come out
of that hole. Is your pulse line full of fuel also?
It is better to have the pulse line leaving the engine going up to the pump so
if any fuel does get in the line it would drain back to the engine. If you can't
move the pump higher then loop the line so it is going up for a few inches
first then loop back down to the pump.
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Scott Olendorf
Original Firestar, Rotax 447, Powerfin prop
Schenectady, NY
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| Subject: | Re: 503 fuel pump weep hole makes a mess |
??????????????????????????????????????????????????????
I've never had any leaks outa mine..... I have WHITE upholstery under
it....a leak would definitely show up....
Gotta Fly...
Mike & "Jaz" in MN
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| Subject: | Re: 503 fuel pump weep hole makes a mess |
Thanks guys! It sure does appear something is amiss if other 503s don't weep fuel
out the fuel pump weep hole. Here is some more information and a couple of
photos of how the fuel pump is installed.
The pulse port is just under the bottom and in front of the front carb. The pump
is on the fire wall 9 inches higher than the pulse port in level flight. The
pulse line is 1/4 inch rubber automotive fuel injection line. The front half
of the line is mounted level under the carbs then the rear half travels up
slope at about 45 degrees to the fuel pump. This is how the kitfox manual shows
to do the installation.
The pulse line is 20 inches long. Rotax recomends a shorter line. I can't tell
if the line is full of fuel because it is not clear. Today after one hour of
flight at 6000 RPM the catch tube had almost exactly one ounce of fuel in it.
The fuel in the catch tube is dirty black so I am pretty sure it came from the
crank case.
Any more ideas why this is happening or how I can/should change the installation?
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Tom Jones
Classic IV, Phase one
503, Warp
Ellensburg, WA
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| Subject: | Re: 503 fuel pump weep hole makes a mess |
At 07:25 PM 6/12/2007, you wrote:
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>Thanks guys! It sure does appear something is amiss if other 503s
>don't weep fuel out the fuel pump weep hole. Here is some more
>information and a couple of photos of how the fuel pump is installed.
>xactly one ounce of fuel in it. The fuel in the catch tube is dirty
>black so I am pretty sure it came from the crank case.
>
>Any more ideas why this is happening or how I can/should change the
>installation?
>
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>Tom Jones
>Classic IV, Phase one
Is it supposed to be horizontal like that? -- maybe it doesn't matter.
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| Subject: | Re: 503 fuel pump weep hole makes a mess |
the pulse line should only be 12 in long and of an harder hose( ask for
pulse line) black ruber line is not an good idea even thow kit fox suggest
it I know this because I have a kit fox also if the pump is leaking it will
come out the hole . if the crank case is filling up it will come out the
hole.some time people will poke a wire in the weep hole to clear it and a hole
will develop in the diaphragm. I just rebuilt a fuel pump on a KF LIte and it
was leaking fuel out the weep hole just by trying to start the motor a
noticeable amount was leaking out the hole by just pulling it over 6 times .
Are
you going LSA? malcolm michigan And I will be at the fathers day fly in
KF N347ex
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| Subject: | Re: 503 fuel pump weep hole makes a mess |
> It is better to have the pulse line leaving the engine going up to the pump so
if any fuel does get in the line it would drain back to the engine. If you can't
move the pump higher then loop the line so it is going up for a few inches
first then loop back down to the pump.
The pump is 9 inches above the pulse port but the line is level from the port for
about 10 inches then a 45 degree slope up to the pump. Fuel may be pooling
in the line and working its way up that gradual slope to the pump. I have some
clear pulse line on hand. I could put that on with an immediate straingt
up 7 inch rise from the port then level to the pump. That would be about 22 inches
total pulse line length though. I will see if there is a place closer to
the port to mount the pump.
> if the pump is leaking it will come out the hole
This engine pump combination has done this from the beginning right out of the
box. I put a new pump on and it does the same thing.
> if the crank case is filling up it will come out the hole
The engine runs perfictly. Temps in the green and plugs brown. Turns 6200 on
full power climb 800 ft. per minute at 60 MPH.
> Are you going LSA?
My Kitfox is regestered Experimental amature built. I am a private pilot flying
under sport pilot rules
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Tom Jones
Classic IV, Phase one
503, Warp
Ellensburg, WA
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