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1. 02:51 AM - Another hurdle (pat ladd)
2. 06:07 AM - Re: 503 fuel pump weep hole makes a mess (Thom Riddle)
3. 06:46 AM - Re: Re: 503 fuel pump weep hole makes a mess (Eugene Zimmerman)
4. 06:59 AM - Re: 503 fuel pump weep hole makes a mess (olendorf)
5. 07:04 AM - Re: Another hurdle (Richard Girard)
6. 07:17 AM - Re: 503 fuel pump weep hole makes a mess (Thom Riddle)
7. 07:27 AM - Re: 503 fuel pump weep hole makes a mess (Tom Jones)
8. 08:45 AM - Re: Another hurdle (Mike Welch)
9. 09:02 AM - Re: New topic: Loctite (JetPilot)
10. 10:10 AM - Re: Another hurdle (DBforfun@aol.com)
11. 12:39 PM - Re: Another hurdle (Robert Laird)
12. 01:59 PM - Re: Another hurdle (Paul Petty)
13. 02:27 PM - Re: Another hurdle (Rick Nelson)
14. 02:43 PM - Re: EIS (Engine Information System) (planecrazzzy)
15. 04:12 PM - Re: Another hurdle (US BFR) (The Kuffels)
16. 05:02 PM - Re: Re: 503 fuel pump weep hole makes a mess (Dana Hague)
17. 05:08 PM - Re: Another hurdle (US BFR) (Richard Girard)
18. 07:36 PM - Re: Re: Another hurdle (Robert Laird)
19. 07:44 PM - Re: Re: 503 fuel pump weep hole makes a mess (Richard Girard)
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Hi All,
having been accused of being anti American, I shall no doubt now be
accused of being anti British. At the moment I just wish we had your
system.
I have just uncovered another hurdle.
I have told you of the decision by our Chief Engineer that I must have a
Flying Test done on my plane when it is repaired (Next week hah hah)
Now I have discovered that my pilots licence may be invalid.
The system here is that a pilots licence is issued for life but it has
to re validated annually. Talking to another pilot at the strip I fly
from he queried my revalidation. He had been in a similar position. He
flies a Shadow and the entire fleet was grounded after a fault was
discovered in the undercarriage. Redesigning and approving and building
new undercarts took over a year and this ran perilously close to some of
the pilots revalidation dates.
This sent me to check on my dates.
My licence was revalidated in July 05. My accident happened in July 06
and having nothing to fly I forgot the annual . Now we are at July 07
and I shall probably have to take at the very least a GFT, In the worst
case I shall have to do the entire Licence again. Give me strength.
Ellis Island here I come. Where do I sign up for citizenship classes?
Cheers
Pat
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| Subject: | Re: 503 fuel pump weep hole makes a mess |
Speaking of weep holes on 503 Mikuni pump, can anyone tell me where in the following
photos the weep hole is located? Also, is the pump supposed to mounted so
that the pulse line inlet side of the pump is up or down or does it matter?
I'm trying to help a guy inspect a Challenger with 503.
Thanks,
Thom in Buffalo
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| Subject: | Re: 503 fuel pump weep hole makes a mess |
Tom,
Not all pumps have the weep hole.
Mount the pump so that the pulse line side is down so any liquid will
drain out away from the pump diaphragm.
The diaphragm must always remain free to move with the pulse
frequency to pump properly.
Only a pump with a slowly leaking diaphragm will benefit from a weep
hole if mounted properly.
Gene
On Jun 13, 2007, at 9:07 AM, Thom Riddle wrote:
> <thomriddle@roadrunner.com>
>
> Speaking of weep holes on 503 Mikuni pump, can anyone tell me where
> in the following photos the weep hole is located? Also, is the pump
> supposed to mounted so that the pulse line inlet side of the pump
> is up or down or does it matter? I'm trying to help a guy inspect a
> Challenger with 503.
>
> Thanks,
> Thom in Buffalo
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: 503 fuel pump weep hole makes a mess |
Some pumps do not have the weep hole. Maybe they were for motorcycles or seedoos
or something. If it has a weep hole it will be on the pulse port side. The
hole should be the low spot so any fuel in there drains out sooner.
For the Kitfox guy. I can't even imagine having enough fuel in the pulse line to
make it all the way to the pump. I would guess a bad fuel pump or the fuel lines
are leaking and the fuel runs down the side of the pump and it only looks
like it is coming out the weep hole.
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Original Firestar, Rotax 447, Powerfin prop
Schenectady, NY
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| Subject: | Re: Another hurdle |
Pat, Just go to Juarez, take a right turn, and follow the crowd going across
the Rio Grande. It's much easier than dealing with any government. 12
million migrants can't be wrong.
Not to add to your dismay, but we have the same sort of silliness here.
It's called the BFR. I won't tell you my version of the acronym, but the "F"
doesn't stand for flight. But then, it might not in BFR either, since no
flying may be involved in a "flight review". You can go sit in a classroom
for a few hours every month and listen to an FAA official tell you how to
fly safely, never do a single minute of time in the air, and voila, you've
had a flight review.
Should you actually go out and do some actual flying with an actual FAA
licensed instructor, two of them, even, and well, that might not be good
enough.
Case in point, I earned my WSC endorsement while at Sun n Fun. Did the PTS
manuevers, which I didn't do to get my PPL, did almost 8 hours of ground
instruction and 6 hours of flying but, the Friendlies say it can't be used
as a "flight" review.
The reasoning is that since I was adding a new type and class, it doesn't
count. I need to review my old type and class for it to count as a BFR.
Never mind all the instruction or the flying, this is about putting a check
mark in the box on a form designed and administered by someone who may not
be able to recognize an aircraft without a picture book.
Like the tee shirt says, "Hydrogen is the most abundant element in the
universe, stupidity is a close second." End of rant and here's hoping my
next isn't from Guantanamo.
Rick
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On 6/13/07, pat ladd <pj.ladd@btinternet.com> wrote:
>
> Hi All,
>
> having been accused of being anti American, I shall no doubt now be
> accused of being anti British. At the moment I just wish we had your system.
>
> I have just uncovered another hurdle.
>
> I have told you of the decision by our Chief Engineer that I must have a
> Flying Test done on my plane when it is repaired (Next week hah hah) Now I
> have discovered that my pilots licence may be invalid.
>
> The system here is that a pilots licence is issued for life but it has to
> re validated annually. Talking to another pilot at the strip I fly from he
> queried my revalidation. He had been in a similar position. He flies a
> Shadow and the entire fleet was grounded after a fault was discovered in
> the undercarriage. Redesigning and approving and building new undercarts
> took over a year and this ran perilously close to some of the pilots
> revalidation dates.
>
> This sent me to check on my dates.
> My licence was revalidated in July 05. My accident happened in July 06 and
> having nothing to fly I forgot the annual . Now we are at July 07 and I
> shall probably have to take at the very least a GFT, In the worst case I
> shall have to do the entire Licence again. Give me strength.
>
> Ellis Island here I come. Where do I sign up for citizenship classes?
>
> Cheers
>
> Pat
>
> *
>
>
> *
>
>
--
Rick Girard
"Ya'll drop on in"
takes on a whole new meaning
when you live at the airport.
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| Subject: | Re: 503 fuel pump weep hole makes a mess |
Thanks guys. Much appreciated. Looks like the Challenger has its fuel pump installed
upside down, as I suspected.
Thom in Buffalo
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| Subject: | Re: 503 fuel pump weep hole makes a mess |
Here is a link to CPS's article on installing pulse pumps and weep holes and such.
http://www.800-airwolf.com/pdffiles/ARTICLES/part%2053.PDF
--------
Tom Jones
Classic IV, Phase one
503, Warp
Ellensburg, WA
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Pat,
You needn't trouble yourself with Ellis Island. You WALK across the
Mexican/American border into the United States. That's all there is to it!
Of course, once you get here you can have Social Security benefits,
emergency room health care, and of course, special education benefits. (You
have to lay on the heavy British accent for Engish as a second language
funds.)
You might have to hang out at the local Home Depot for some "day labour"
(notice the spelling)
to REALLY orient yourself to the complete spectrum of benefits, but I doubt
that would take too long.
See ya soon, neighbour, Mike
Welch
>From: "pat ladd" <pj.ladd@btinternet.com>
>To: <kolb-list@matronics.com>
>Subject: Kolb-List: Another hurdle
>Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2007 10:50:57 +0100
>
>Hi All,
>
>having been accused of being anti American, I shall no doubt now be accused
>of being anti British. At the moment I just wish we had your system.
>
>I have just uncovered another hurdle.
>
>I have told you of the decision by our Chief Engineer that I must have a
>Flying Test done on my plane when it is repaired (Next week hah hah) Now
>I have discovered that my pilots licence may be invalid.
>
>The system here is that a pilots licence is issued for life but it has to
>re validated annually. Talking to another pilot at the strip I fly from he
>queried my revalidation. He had been in a similar position. He flies a
>Shadow and the entire fleet was grounded after a fault was discovered in
>the undercarriage. Redesigning and approving and building new undercarts
>took over a year and this ran perilously close to some of the pilots
>revalidation dates.
>
>This sent me to check on my dates.
>My licence was revalidated in July 05. My accident happened in July 06 and
>having nothing to fly I forgot the annual . Now we are at July 07 and I
>shall probably have to take at the very least a GFT, In the worst case I
>shall have to do the entire Licence again. Give me strength.
>
> Ellis Island here I come. Where do I sign up for citizenship classes?
>
>Cheers
>
>Pat
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| Subject: | Re: New topic: Loctite |
Putting locktite into a press fitting is a VERY BAD idea. At those pressures
and stresses the locktite is more likely to act a a lubricant than a glue.
Mike
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"NO FEAR" - If you have no fear you did not go as fast as you could
have !!!
Kolb MK-III Xtra, 912-S
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| Subject: | Re: Another hurdle |
Nobody comes in thru Ellis Island any more. They just sneak in thru Mexico
and we make them citizens.
It is much easier now and if you go to the right state they will give you a
drivers license and with that you can fly LSA.
In a message dated 6/13/2007 2:52:56 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
pj.ladd@btinternet.com writes:
Hi All,
having been accused of being anti American, I shall no doubt now be accused
of being anti British. At the moment I just wish we had your system.
I have just uncovered another hurdle.
I have told you of the decision by our Chief Engineer that I must have a
Flying Test done on my plane when it is repaired (Next week hah hah) Now I
have discovered that my pilots licence may be invalid.
The system here is that a pilots licence is issued for life but it has to re
validated annually. Talking to another pilot at the strip I fly from he
queried my revalidation. He had been in a similar position. He flies a Shadow
and the entire fleet was grounded after a fault was discovered in the
undercarriage. Redesigning and approving and building new undercarts took over
a
year and this ran perilously close to some of the pilots revalidation dates.
This sent me to check on my dates.
My licence was revalidated in July 05. My accident happened in July 06 and
having nothing to fly I forgot the annual . Now we are at July 07 and I shall
probably have to take at the very least a GFT, In the worst case I shall have
to do the entire Licence again. Give me strength.
Ellis Island here I come. Where do I sign up for citizenship classes?
Cheers
Pat
(http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kolb-List)
************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.
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| Subject: | Re: Another hurdle |
Uh, are calendars different there? :-) It's June 13th over on this
side of the Pond.
-- Robert
DO NOT ARCHIVE
On 6/13/07, pat ladd <pj.ladd@btinternet.com> wrote:
>
>
> Hi All,
>
> having been accused of being anti American, I shall no doubt now be accused
> of being anti British. At the moment I just wish we had your system.
>
> I have just uncovered another hurdle.
>
> I have told you of the decision by our Chief Engineer that I must have a
> Flying Test done on my plane when it is repaired (Next week hah hah) Now I
> have discovered that my pilots licence may be invalid.
>
> The system here is that a pilots licence is issued for life but it has to re
> validated annually. Talking to another pilot at the strip I fly from he
> queried my revalidation. He had been in a similar position. He flies a
> Shadow and the entire fleet was grounded after a fault was discovered in
> the undercarriage. Redesigning and approving and building new undercarts
> took over a year and this ran perilously close to some of the pilots
> revalidation dates.
>
> This sent me to check on my dates.
> My licence was revalidated in July 05. My accident happened in July 06 and
> having nothing to fly I forgot the annual . Now we are at July 07 and I
> shall probably have to take at the very least a GFT, In the worst case I
> shall have to do the entire Licence again. Give me strength.
>
> Ellis Island here I come. Where do I sign up for citizenship classes?
>
> Cheers
>
> Pat
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Another hurdle |
Robert,
I too had to count the months on my fingers and check calander thinking SHIT i
missed wifes anneversary
--------
Paul Petty
Kolbra #12
Ms Dixie
Final assembly!
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| Subject: | Re: Another hurdle |
But won't he be required to install two roofs and a tile floor to be
eligible to hang out at Home Depot? : )
On 6/13/07, Mike Welch <mdnanwelch7@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> Pat,
> You needn't trouble yourself with Ellis Island. You WALK across the
> Mexican/American border into the United States. That's all there is to it!
> Of course, once you get here you can have Social Security benefits,
> emergency room health care, and of course, special education benefits. (You
> have to lay on the heavy British accent for Engish as a second language
> funds.)
>
> You might have to hang out at the local Home Depot for some "day labour"
> (notice the spelling)
> to REALLY orient yourself to the complete spectrum of benefits, but I doubt
> that would take too long.
>
> See ya soon, neighbour, Mike
> Welch
>
>
> >From: "pat ladd" <pj.ladd@btinternet.com>
> >To: <kolb-list@matronics.com>
> >Subject: Kolb-List: Another hurdle
> >Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2007 10:50:57 +0100
> >
> >Hi All,
> >
> >having been accused of being anti American, I shall no doubt now be accused
> >of being anti British. At the moment I just wish we had your system.
> >
> >I have just uncovered another hurdle.
> >
> >I have told you of the decision by our Chief Engineer that I must have a
> >Flying Test done on my plane when it is repaired (Next week hah hah) Now
> >I have discovered that my pilots licence may be invalid.
> >
> >The system here is that a pilots licence is issued for life but it has to
> >re validated annually. Talking to another pilot at the strip I fly from he
> >queried my revalidation. He had been in a similar position. He flies a
> >Shadow and the entire fleet was grounded after a fault was discovered in
> >the undercarriage. Redesigning and approving and building new undercarts
> >took over a year and this ran perilously close to some of the pilots
> >revalidation dates.
> >
> >This sent me to check on my dates.
> >My licence was revalidated in July 05. My accident happened in July 06 and
> >having nothing to fly I forgot the annual . Now we are at July 07 and I
> >shall probably have to take at the very least a GFT, In the worst case I
> >shall have to do the entire Licence again. Give me strength.
> >
> > Ellis Island here I come. Where do I sign up for citizenship classes?
> >
> >Cheers
> >
> >Pat
>
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| Subject: | Re: EIS (Engine Information System) |
I have a EIS w/Battery ( Elec start - GPL )
I don't think Kolb has new panels.....it's part of the nose cone.
I think you could "make" a flat piece of "Something" to cover the
old holes ....and mount yer new stuff...
Actually , it would be a good idea to bring the panel CLOSER to you
maybe a couple of inches....
Gotta Fly...
Mike & "Jaz" in MN
PS They will also give you wiring for remote switches ( free )
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| Subject: | Re: Another hurdle (US BFR) |
Rick,
<<earned my WSC endorsement .. the Friendlies say it can't be used as a
"flight" review>>
Not sure what a "WSC endorsement" is but FAR 81.56(d) says, in part:
"passed a pilot proficiency check conducted by an examiner, an approved
pilot check airman, .., for a pilot certificate, rating, or operating
privilege need not accomplish the flight review"
In other words a multi-engine rating, an instructor rating, an
instrument rating, a single engine sea rating, a multi-engine sea
rating, commercial pilot, etc. all exempt a pilot from the BFR
requirement for 2 years. So if your "WSC endorsement" didn't include a
formal check ride, your beef is with the instructors not the Feds.
Since they gave you at least 1 hour of ground and 1 hour of flight
instruction (the only hard requirements in the BFR rule), all they
needed to do was include the BFR endorsement in your logbook along with
the WSC one. In fact, nothing in the rules says the BFR endorsement
must be written into the logbook contemporaneously. In other words, you
can contact the instructor, ship him your logbook, have him add the BFR
wording and ship it back to you. If he thinks you are competent for an
endorsement he certainly should think you are okay for the purposes of a
BFR.
And just to tweak Pat a little, tiny, teeny bit: The only pilot license
equivalent we have here is for us flight instructors. We have to renew
every two years (95% just take a ground school). Otherwise, we have to
pass an instructor flight test for *one* of our ratings to get back all
of one's instructor ratings. Sport, private and commercial pilots have
no such restriction. They can not fly for 10 or 20 years and then just
get a valid medical (or drivers license for Sport) and take a regular
minimum 1 hour ground/1 hour flight BFR. There is no such thing as
"failing" a BFR (it's just logged as dual), as soon as the instructor is
comfortable with the pilot's skills he can sign them off. I've done
this several times for relapsees.
Tom Kuffel, CFI
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| Subject: | Re: 503 fuel pump weep hole makes a mess |
At 09:59 AM 6/13/2007, olendorf wrote:
>
>Some pumps do not have the weep hole. Maybe they were for motorcycles or
>seedoos or something.
The stock Mikuni pumps don't have the hole; I believe it's added by Rotax
(and other aircraft suppliers) as an added safety measure.
-Dana
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| Subject: | Re: Another hurdle (US BFR) |
Tom, The WSC endorsement is for Weight Shift Control. I flew with two
instructors, one to prepare for the check ride and sign me off for it, the
other to do the check ride. Both were assured by the Lakeland FSDO that
because the endorsement was for a new type and class I could not operate the
aircraft as pilot in command so no BFR. Once the endorsement was earned I
could operate as PIC and could then take the BFR ride. Your local office may
interpret the rules differently, but that's the reasoning in Florida.
Rick
On 6/13/07, The Kuffels <kuffel@cyberport.net> wrote:
>
>
> Rick,
>
> <<earned my WSC endorsement .. the Friendlies say it can't be used as a
> "flight" review>>
>
> Not sure what a "WSC endorsement" is but FAR 81.56(d) says, in part:
> "passed a pilot proficiency check conducted by an examiner, an approved
> pilot check airman, .., for a pilot certificate, rating, or operating
> privilege need not accomplish the flight review"
>
> In other words a multi-engine rating, an instructor rating, an
> instrument rating, a single engine sea rating, a multi-engine sea
> rating, commercial pilot, etc. all exempt a pilot from the BFR
> requirement for 2 years. So if your "WSC endorsement" didn't include a
> formal check ride, your beef is with the instructors not the Feds.
> Since they gave you at least 1 hour of ground and 1 hour of flight
> instruction (the only hard requirements in the BFR rule), all they
> needed to do was include the BFR endorsement in your logbook along with
> the WSC one. In fact, nothing in the rules says the BFR endorsement
> must be written into the logbook contemporaneously. In other words, you
> can contact the instructor, ship him your logbook, have him add the BFR
> wording and ship it back to you. If he thinks you are competent for an
> endorsement he certainly should think you are okay for the purposes of a
> BFR.
>
> And just to tweak Pat a little, tiny, teeny bit: The only pilot license
> equivalent we have here is for us flight instructors. We have to renew
> every two years (95% just take a ground school). Otherwise, we have to
> pass an instructor flight test for *one* of our ratings to get back all
> of one's instructor ratings. Sport, private and commercial pilots have
> no such restriction. They can not fly for 10 or 20 years and then just
> get a valid medical (or drivers license for Sport) and take a regular
> minimum 1 hour ground/1 hour flight BFR. There is no such thing as
> "failing" a BFR (it's just logged as dual), as soon as the instructor is
> comfortable with the pilot's skills he can sign them off. I've done
> this several times for relapsees.
>
> Tom Kuffel, CFI
>
>
--
Rick Girard
"Ya'll drop on in"
takes on a whole new meaning
when you live at the airport.
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| Subject: | Re: Another hurdle |
[Said in fake German Freudian accent...] Ah, und vhy do you say itz
your vife's anniverzary? Mmmm? Izn't it your anniverzary too? Mmmmm?
So, how about it Pat, don't you have time to get it done before July 7th????
-- Robert
do not archive
On 6/13/07, Paul Petty <paulpetty@myway.com> wrote:
>
> Robert,
> I too had to count the months on my fingers and check calander thinking SHIT
i missed wifes anneversary
>
> --------
> Paul Petty
> Kolbra #12
> Ms Dixie
> Final assembly!
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=118287#118287
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: 503 fuel pump weep hole makes a mess |
I have all three types of the Mikuni dual pumps that are currently on the
market. The two most often found at ultralight suppliers are those pictured
in the CPS article previously posted to this conversation. The third I found
at a go kart shop.
The oldest of my three is the one with one straight and two bent hose barbs.
On this pump, the pulse port is a square brass fitting with a hose barb at
90 degrees pressed into a boss, about an 1/8th inch tall, on the back of the
mounting plate. The weep hole in this style pump appears to be factory
drilled.
The one I bought from CPS last year is the one with all straight hose barbs.
On this style, the pulse port boss is about 3/4" tall and the hose barb is
pressed into the side of it. In the CPS article, Mike said they drill the
weep hole on these and that appears to be correct.
The third style is one I first saw on eBay this winter. I went searching
online and found it at Go Kart Supply. This style has the pulse port boss
cast into the front cover and the bent hose barbs are turned outward 90
degrees to the mounting surface of the pump. The weep hole is drilled in a
small divot in the center of the pulse pump boss and appears to be done by
the factory.
My criteria for factory versus distributor drilling of the weep hole is
simply whether it is centered where it's drilled. The one from CPS is
drilled willy nilly, the other two have the hole centered in the fitting or
the boss respectively.
Rick
On 6/13/07, Dana Hague <d-m-hague@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>
> At 09:59 AM 6/13/2007, olendorf wrote:
> >
> >Some pumps do not have the weep hole. Maybe they were for motorcycles or
> >seedoos or something.
>
> The stock Mikuni pumps don't have the hole; I believe it's added by Rotax
> (and other aircraft suppliers) as an added safety measure.
>
> -Dana
>
> --
> --
> Most politicians aren't crooks, but the ones that are sure are making the
> other 10 percent look bad.
>
>
--
Rick Girard
"Ya'll drop on in"
takes on a whole new meaning
when you live at the airport.
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