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Fri 06/15/07


Total Messages Posted: 14



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     1. 01:13 AM - Re: Firefly007 Seabase (pat ladd)
     2. 01:16 AM - Re: MV (pat ladd)
     3. 03:52 AM - Re: Firefly007 Seabase (N27SB@aol.com)
     4. 05:14 AM - Re: Re: Ms Dixie update (Mark German)
     5. 07:20 AM - Knock-off Kolb (Jeremy Casey)
     6. 07:42 AM - Re: Permanent Gap Seal for a Mk-III  (boyd)
     7. 11:01 AM - Fly-in to Homer's (Terry)
     8. 06:12 PM - FireFly fuel tank options? (JonSteiger)
     9. 06:19 PM - Re: Knock-off Kolb (Dana Hague)
    10. 07:00 PM - Re: FireFly fuel tank options? (Richard Pike)
    11. 07:22 PM - Re: FireFly fuel tank options? (Richard Girard)
    12. 07:48 PM - spacer for a warp drive (Larry Cottrell)
    13. 08:12 PM - Re: MV (Larry Bourne)
    14. 08:44 PM - Re: spacer for a warp drive (Jim Baker)
 
 
 


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    Time: 01:13:19 AM PST US
    From: "pat ladd" <pj.ladd@btinternet.com>
    Subject: Re: Firefly007 Seabase
    The hanger is taking shape>> Nice bit of stonework there Steve. Your own work? Pat


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    Time: 01:16:15 AM PST US
    From: "pat ladd" <pj.ladd@btinternet.com>
    Subject: Re: MV
    Hi Lar, there are some pics on the way to you. Snail mail. I also have some of the cottage in Devon I thought you might like which I will send .. Emjoy Cheers Pat


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    Time: 03:52:06 AM PST US
    From: N27SB@aol.com
    Subject: Re: Firefly007 Seabase
    Thanks Pat, It's a small piece of MV. I Mixed the mud and toted the stone. My friend Matt is the Stone Artist. do not archive steve ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.


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    Time: 05:14:46 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Ms Dixie update
    From: Mark German <mgerman@celestica.com>
    Hi Paul!! You have done an outstanding job building your Kolbra! Only you know how much work it has been and in some cases more work then building from scratch. In my option you will have the nicest Kolbra built to date. It has been fun working with you and seeing the completion of the project. Cant wait to see it take flight. Regards Mark German 912-Kolbra 280-hrs. Chisago City MN. "Paul Petty" <paulpetty@myway.com> Sent by: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com 06/14/2007 02:18 PM Please respond to kolb-list@matronics.com To kolb-list@matronics.com cc Subject Kolb-List: Re: Ms Dixie update Well gang if all goes as planned Ms. Dixie will me moved to KLUL Hesler Nobel Field this saturday for Inspection and final tweaking and adjusting. Then some taxi testing sunday! What a fathers day treat ey? I will post photos and video for you all to enjoy if everything goes as planned. Our club is having a fly in and I guess most will be at Homers. Hope you all have a great flight and we hope to be joining you soon! :D do not archive -------- Paul Petty Kolbra #12 Ms Dixie Wating for final inspection and cert. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=118460#118460


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    Time: 07:20:18 AM PST US
    From: "Jeremy Casey" <1planeguy@kilocharlie.us>
    Subject: Knock-off Kolb
    Surfing this morning and found a picture that looked VERY familiar...is a trigear knockoff of an Ultrastar!!! http://aeromoto.free.fr/images2/hdmultiaxe/pulsarmono_1.jpg Jeremy


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    Time: 07:42:09 AM PST US
    From: "boyd" <by0ung@brigham.net>
    Subject: Permanent Gap Seal for a Mk-III
    At Monument Valley last month, I saw someone's Mark-III (can't remember whose - Boyd's, maybe?) with the gap seal built to remain in place even with the wings folded. It was me.... I will send some info off list. Boyd Do not archive.


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    Time: 11:01:09 AM PST US
    From: Terry <tkrolfe@usadatanet.net>
    Subject: Fly-in to Homer's
    Gentlemen, Looks like great weather to fly to Homer's tomorrow. I will be at Smoketown Airport at 8:30 am for those that wish to fly along. See the rest of you at Homer's. Good flying to all, Terry - FireFly #95


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    Time: 06:12:55 PM PST US
    Subject: FireFly fuel tank options?
    From: "JonSteiger" <kolb-list@jonsteiger.com>
    Hello all! Its been a looong time since I last posted, unfortunately the pace of life has kept me from getting into the sky as often as I would like. :( I'm trying to rectify that though, and am just now going through the process of getting my FireFly ready for the flying season. (I was hoping to finish in time to make it to a local fly-in tomorrow, but unfortunately ran out of time so rather than rush things I'll be driving down instead.) ANYWAY.... When I removed the fuel tank to clean it out and replace some of the fuel lines, I noticed that the line the previous owner plumbed to the bottom of the tank was leaking (around the push-in grommet), and also after 10 years of use, the gas tank seems to have gotten a bit softer than it used to be, so I'd like to replace it. I noticed a post from August of 2006 from John H. saying that Kolb has 6 gallon tanks to replace the 5 gallon. I plan to send TNK an e-mail to inquire about these, but I was also wondering what other options might be available to me? (For anyone who has ordered one of the new style TNK tanks, how do you like them? Decent quality?) My current tank is about 10 inches square by 14" high, and it bears a striking resemblance to the chemical containers we used to buy filled with chlorine for the swimming pool. I thought about looking into building a custom tank to get some more volume, but since the plane is built already, this does limit my options somewhat. (I'd also need to revisit my weight and balance calculations to see where such a tank might be placed.) The current tank is 5 gallons, and to fly to the "local" airport, I need to carry some extra fuel with me in order to get there and back with an acceptable reserve. (I have an old backpack strapped to the back of the fuel tank and use it to carry a few 2 liter soda bottles filled with premix which I use to refill the tank prior to departing for home.) I thought about a racing fuel cell, or a large gas can, but any of those would require the cage which braces the original style tank to be cut, and I'd like to avoid that if possible. Since my time is at a premium unfortunately, I suspect what I will probably end up doing is to get a 6 gallon tank from Kolb, assuming they are available and reasonably priced. This will at least get me in the air again and give me an extra gallon of fuel over what I had before. One idea I had is to perhaps hang a sealed tank (or two) of some type above the main fuel tank. These aux. tanks would be airtight and have only one opening each, a barbed fitting at the bottom to which would be attached a length of fuel line which would run down and into the top of the main tank through a tight fitting grommet or a bulkhead fitting. The line(s) from the aux tank(s) would dangle down into the main fuel tank such that if the tank is full, the ends would be covered. Once the fuel level in the main tank started to drop, the ends of these lines would be uncovered, which would allow air to enter and drain fuel from the aux tanks until the ends of the lines were covered again. (Basically the same concept as the office water cooler or one of those 5 gallon pet waterers.) Seems like this would be a very reliable method, no moving parts, in-flight refueling, and no need to manually start or stop the refueling, it'd be automatic. The only hassle might be refilling those aux tanks. I guess having a gas cap opening would make that part easier, although it would have to seal perfectly airtight in order to prevent fuel from leaking down and overfilling the main tank. Anyway, that was just something stewing in the back of my mind so I figured I'd spew it here in case someone can think of a reason why it'd be a dumb thing to do. :D Sorry for the length of this post! Many thanks in advance for any assistance anyone can provide! Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=118668#118668


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    Time: 06:19:31 PM PST US
    From: Dana Hague <d-m-hague@comcast.net>
    Subject: Re: Knock-off Kolb
    At 10:19 AM 6/15/2007, Jeremy Casey wrote: > >Surfing this morning and found a picture that looked VERY familiar...is >a trigear knockoff of an Ultrastar!!! > >http://aeromoto.free.fr/images2/hdmultiaxe/pulsarmono_1.jpg Wasn't that the European outfit that was producing Kolb knockoffs? But a training wheel on an Ultrastar is just... wrong. -Dana -- -- Most politicians aren't crooks, but the ones that are sure are making the other 10 percent look bad.


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    Time: 07:00:33 PM PST US
    From: "Richard Pike" <richard@bcchapel.org>
    Subject: Re: FireFly fuel tank options?
    Welcome back, Jon, it's been a long time. Richard Pike MKIII N420P (420ldPoops) do not archive ----- Original Message ----- From: "JonSteiger" <kolb-list@jonsteiger.com> Sent: Friday, June 15, 2007 9:12 PM Subject: Kolb-List: FireFly fuel tank options? > > Hello all! Its been a looong time since I last posted, unfortunately the > pace of life has kept me from getting into the sky as often as I would > like. :( I'm trying to rectify that though, and am just now going > through the process of getting my FireFly ready for the flying season.


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    Time: 07:22:57 PM PST US
    From: "Richard Girard" <jindoguy@gmail.com>
    Subject: Re: FireFly fuel tank options?
    Jon, TNK had the six gallon tanks at Sun n Fun for $20. They are the same dimensions as the 5 gallon tanks, except they are taller. When I asked Travis if they were as big a PITA to wrestle into the cage as the originals, he said, "pretty much the same". As long as you're brainstorming ideas for an auxillary tank, why not a root tube tank from a Quicksilver? If it would fit, it might be the solution to your problem and would double your fuel capacity. I do not know if you would have enough room between the spar carry through tube of the cage and the engine, but it might. While you're replumbing you might want to consider the new top tap that removes that bottom grommet. All your fuel lines would then be on the top of the tank where inspection and replacement is much easier. Rick On 6/15/07, JonSteiger <kolb-list@jonsteiger.com> wrote: > > > Hello all! Its been a looong time since I last posted, unfortunately the > pace of life has kept me from getting into the sky as often as I would > like. :( I'm trying to rectify that though, and am just now going > through the process of getting my FireFly ready for the flying season. (I > was hoping to finish in time to make it to a local fly-in tomorrow, but > unfortunately ran out of time so rather than rush things I'll be driving > down instead.) > > ANYWAY.... When I removed the fuel tank to clean it out and replace > some of the fuel lines, I noticed that the line the previous owner plumbed > to the bottom of the tank was leaking (around the push-in grommet), and also > after 10 years of use, the gas tank seems to have gotten a bit softer than > it used to be, so I'd like to replace it. > > I noticed a post from August of 2006 from John H. saying that Kolb has > 6 gallon tanks to replace the 5 gallon. I plan to send TNK an e-mail to > inquire about these, but I was also wondering what other options might be > available to me? (For anyone who has ordered one of the new style TNK > tanks, how do you like them? Decent quality?) My current tank is about 10 > inches square by 14" high, and it bears a striking resemblance to the > chemical containers we used to buy filled with chlorine for the swimming > pool. > > > I thought about looking into building a custom tank to get some more > volume, but since the plane is built already, this does limit my options > somewhat. (I'd also need to revisit my weight and balance calculations to > see where such a tank might be placed.) The current tank is 5 gallons, and > to fly to the "local" airport, I need to carry some extra fuel with me in > order to get there and back with an acceptable reserve. (I have an old > backpack strapped to the back of the fuel tank and use it to carry a few 2 > liter soda bottles filled with premix which I use to refill the tank prior > to departing for home.) I thought about a racing fuel cell, or a large gas > can, but any of those would require the cage which braces the original style > tank to be cut, and I'd like to avoid that if possible. > > Since my time is at a premium unfortunately, I suspect what I will > probably end up doing is to get a 6 gallon tank from Kolb, assuming they are > available and reasonably priced. This will at least get me in the air again > and give me an extra gallon of fuel over what I had before. > > One idea I had is to perhaps hang a sealed tank (or two) of some type > above the main fuel tank. These aux. tanks would be airtight and have only > one opening each, a barbed fitting at the bottom to which would be attached > a length of fuel line which would run down and into the top of the main tank > through a tight fitting grommet or a bulkhead fitting. The line(s) from the > aux tank(s) would dangle down into the main fuel tank such that if the tank > is full, the ends would be covered. Once the fuel level in the main tank > started to drop, the ends of these lines would be uncovered, which would > allow air to enter and drain fuel from the aux tanks until the ends of the > lines were covered again. (Basically the same concept as the office water > cooler or one of those 5 gallon pet waterers.) Seems like this would be a > very reliable method, no moving parts, in-flight refueling, and no need to > manually start or stop the refueling, it'd be automatic. The only hassle > might be ref! > illing those aux tanks. I guess having a gas cap opening would make that > part easier, although it would have to seal perfectly airtight in order to > prevent fuel from leaking down and overfilling the main tank. Anyway, that > was just something stewing in the back of my mind so I figured I'd spew it > here in case someone can think of a reason why it'd be a dumb thing to do. > :D > > Sorry for the length of this post! Many thanks in advance for any > assistance anyone can provide! > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=118668#118668 > > -- Rick Girard "Ya'll drop on in" takes on a whole new meaning when you live at the airport.


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    Time: 07:48:50 PM PST US
    From: "Larry Cottrell" <lcottrell@fmtcblue.com>
    Subject: spacer for a warp drive
    I finally got the 6 inch 8.8 metric bolts that I needed to put a spacer in front of my warp prop. On the flight to MV and back the warp literally beat to pieces the gap seal between the aileron tubes and the wing for the entire length of the propeller. Not to mention the noise was really bad, giving me headaches until I ruined my hearing enough to be able to tolerate the noise. I finally had to order the bolts from John Deere, the only place that I could find them that length. I installed them today with the 2 1/2 inch spacer, and since the wind was reasonable took it up for a test. MUCH better! It was even tolerable without the ANR turned on. I had a very enjoyable 30 minute flight around here harassing the local coyote. Larry C


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    Time: 08:12:29 PM PST US
    From: "Larry Bourne" <gogittum@msn.com>
    Subject: Re: MV
    Snail.........mail.......whazzat ?? I was starting to think I wasn't being spoke to. :-) Lar. Larry Bourne Santa Fe, NM www.gogittum.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "pat ladd" <pj.ladd@btinternet.com> Sent: Friday, June 15, 2007 2:16 AM Subject: Re: Kolb-List: MV > > Hi Lar, > > there are some pics on the way to you. Snail mail. I also have some of > the cottage in Devon I thought you might like which I will send .. Emjoy > > Cheers > > Pat > > >


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    Time: 08:44:20 PM PST US
    From: "Jim Baker" <jlbaker@msbit.net>
    Subject: Re: spacer for a warp drive
    X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (4.41) > I finally had to > order the bolts from John Deere, the only place that I could find > them that length. Should have tried.... http://mdmetric.com/ Jim Baker 580.788.2779 Elmore City, OK




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