---------------------------------------------------------- Kolb-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Fri 06/29/07: 14 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 04:38 AM - Re: New Hampshire Fly - In (Mark Vaughn) 2. 07:08 AM - Re: New Hampshire Fly - In (ElleryWeld@aol.com) 3. 07:44 AM - Re: Landing Downhill At The Rock House (jb92563) 4. 07:55 AM - Re: Starhill-Nauga Field Fly Around - July 13th, 14th, 15th (John Williamson) 5. 09:01 AM - Re: Re: Starhill-Nauga Field Fly Around - July 13th, 14th, 15th (John Hauck) 6. 03:06 PM - Re: Mark IIIC won't turn right in straight and level (John Bickham) 7. 03:15 PM - Dual controls (Mike Welch) 8. 03:23 PM - Re: Re: Mark IIIC won't turn right in straight and level (Mike Welch) 9. 03:25 PM - Re: Dual controls (John Hauck) 10. 03:28 PM - Re: Starhill-Nauga Field Fly Around - July 13th, 14th, 15th (John Bickham) 11. 03:38 PM - Re: Re: Mark IIIC won't turn right in straight and level (John Hauck) 12. 03:55 PM - Re: Mark IIIC won't turn right in straight and level (John Bickham) 13. 08:22 PM - HKS update ATTN:Dave Bigelow (Richard Girard) 14. 08:35 PM - Re: HKS update ATTN:Dave Bigelow (John Hauck) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 04:38:56 AM PST US Subject: Re: Kolb-List: New Hampshire Fly - In From: Mark Vaughn Thanks Ellery Is there a contact person to call ? Mark -----Original Message----- From: ElleryWeld@aol.com Sent: Thu, 28 Jun 2007 11:19 pm Subject: Re: Kolb-List: New Hampshire Fly - In The fly in at Greenland New Hampshire is 7 / 7 to 7 / 14 for anyone that is interested in going to it Ellery in MAINE do not archive ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. ________________________________________________________________________ from AOL at AOL.com. =0 ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 07:08:12 AM PST US From: ElleryWeld@aol.com Subject: Re: Kolb-List: New Hampshire Fly - In Yankee Ultralight Flyers Here is a link on more info on The fly in in New Hampshier also this sunday there is a fly-in at Griffin Field in Levant Maine at N 44 52 038 W 068 58 597 all welcome Ellery do not archive ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 07:44:17 AM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Landing Downhill At The Rock House From: "jb92563" Very nice pics....your photography skills are awesome. You really captured the liveliness of the Kolb in them as you said. Thats magazine caliber!!! -------- Ray Do Not Archive Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=121210#121210 ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 07:55:55 AM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Starhill-Nauga Field Fly Around - July 13th, 14th, 15th From: "John Williamson" The Fly-In is only 2 weeks away! I guess you can tell I'm ready. If you haven't signed up or called John B, do it now so you will get fed. List of those that plan to attend so far: John Williamson John Hauck Gary Haley Steven Green Paul Petty Charlie Harris See you there. -------- John Williamson Arlington, TX Kolbra, 912ULS http://home.tx.rr.com/kolbrapilot Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=121215#121215 ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 09:01:11 AM PST US From: "John Hauck" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Starhill-Nauga Field Fly Around - July 13th, 14th, 15th | | John Williamson | John Hauck | Gary Haley | Steven Green | Paul Petty | Charlie Harris | John Williamson Hi John W: Talked to Ronnie Smith yesterday. I have a leaking oil pressure sending unit. Only a drip, but enough to make a mess. Will this make me fall out of the sky before I reach Nauga Field, LA??? We can add Ronnie as a tentative attendee for now. Give him a call and give him another invite. I'll remind him again when I get back from OKC. Leaving here Sunday morning, pulling 5th wheel, to attend the SF Assn Convention. Will be back in time to get ready to fly to John B's flyin. Anybody in the OKC area??? I'll be there most all week with plenty of free time. Staying at the Twin Fountains RV Park on the north east side of OKC, about 7 miles from the downtown Sheraton, where the Convention is being held. 334-315-2621 cell john h mkIII DO NOT ARCHIVE ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 03:06:37 PM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Mark IIIC won't turn right in straight and level From: "John Bickham" Just heard from my buddy this afternoon while I was cutting the grass on the runway. He flew his plane recently and the problem has been fixed. I had been suggesting that he tighten up his tail cables and he did it a couple of times, just never tight enough. Finally, got them tight enough and problem solved. Thanks for the suggestions. -------- Thanks too much, John Bickham Mark III-C "Using my Repairman Certificate" St. Francisville, LA Do Not Archive Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=121266#121266 ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 03:15:04 PM PST US From: "Mike Welch" Subject: Kolb-List: Dual controls Hey Group, I was wondering if I can get someone with a M3X with dual controls to take a few close up photos of the control mechanism for me. I presently have a center single control stick, and I plan on converting it to "dual controls". I sure would appreciate it!! Thanks, Mike in SW Utah _________________________________________________________________ Picture this share your photos and you could win big! http://www.GETREALPhotoContest.com?ocid=TXT_TAGHM&loc=us ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 03:23:18 PM PST US From: "Mike Welch" Subject: RE: Kolb-List: Re: Mark IIIC won't turn right in straight and level Hey John, Just a few days ago I asked for an update regarding this problem your friend was having. Thanks for the update. I was truly curious to know if he got it figured out. Evidently, he has, but I don't quite understand his solution, tho. You're saying, he tightened the cables to the rudder and elevator and THAT fixed his problem?? I thought it was incredibly difficult to turn right due to some stick control/aileron situation. Could you explain more precisely what the problem and solution was? I really am interested...so I don't encounter any ailments like these myself. Appreciate it, Mike in SW Utah >From: "John Bickham" >To: kolb-list@matronics.com >Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Mark IIIC won't turn right in straight and level >Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2007 15:06:02 -0700 > > >Just heard from my buddy this afternoon while I was cutting the grass on >the runway. > >He flew his plane recently and the problem has been fixed. I had been >suggesting that he tighten up his tail cables and he did it a couple of >times, just never tight enough. Finally, got them tight enough and problem >solved. > >Thanks for the suggestions. > >-------- >Thanks too much, > >John Bickham >Mark III-C >"Using my Repairman Certificate" >St. Francisville, LA > >Do Not Archive > > >Read this topic online here: > >http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=121266#121266 > > _________________________________________________________________ Get a preview of Live Earth, the hottest event this summer - only on MSN http://liveearth.msn.com?source=msntaglineliveearthhm ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 03:25:12 PM PST US From: "John Hauck" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Dual controls converting | it to "dual controls". Mike in SW | Utah Mike: If your counterfit project fails, give Travis a call at TNK, he'll be glad to send you the complete setup. I think they are still a bolt in kit. john h mkIII with the first set of dual controls in a Kolb. Still working after 2,660+ hours. ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 03:28:38 PM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Starhill-Nauga Field Fly Around - July 13th, 14th, 15th From: "John Bickham" Hey John H. That is great! What would Ronnie S fly in? I remember a cessna. Does he have something lighter and slower? I did give John Cooley a bump. He has to work that weekend. Nobody understands that better than me. It is hard for us guys with full time jobs keep up with you "fly here, there, everywhere" retired guys. You guys met Bruce Williams (Kitfox) and his wife Tina at MV 2004, the one I didn't get to. They will be joining us and are looking forward to seeing you guys again. Just finished cutting the grass on the runway and even put down a little fertilizer. Was going fly but thunder boomer just formed up. Will try to sneak away early AM. Probably will cut the grass one more time and then that Friday morning just before you guys start getting here. We're excited here. Come on. -------- Thanks too much, John Bickham Mark III-C "Using my Repairman Certificate" St. Francisville, LA Do Not Archive Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=121269#121269 ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 03:38:55 PM PST US From: "John Hauck" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Mark IIIC won't turn right in straight and level You're saying, he tightened the cables to the rudder and | elevator and THAT fixed his problem?? | | Appreciate it, Mike in SW Utah Mike: He tightened up the tail wires. Most folks fly around with them loose as a clothes line. They need to be tight enough to twang like a guitar string. There is a lot of activity going on back there, and loose tail wires agrevate problems. Here is what John B said: "I had been >suggesting that he tighten up his tail cables and he did it a couple >of >times, just never tight enough. Finally, got them tight enough and >problem >solved." Here is how I check to see if my tail wires are tight enough for me. 1-Grab the leading edge of either horizontal stabilizer with one hand, and the leading edge of the upper vertical stabilizer with the other. 2-Now..........try to pull the two leading edges together. In the process of pulling them together, if the wire at the station you are pulling goes slack, to me, that indicates it needs to be tightened up to the point that it will not sag when a pretty good pull is put on the system. john h mkIII with tight tail wires. ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 03:55:44 PM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Mark IIIC won't turn right in straight and level From: "John Bickham" Hey Mike in Utah, Yep, it is fixed. I know it sounds strange that tightening up the cables that brace the tail feathers fixed a roll problem. Kolbers that fold their tale on any frequency may have witnessed this to some degree. Basic deal is the controls (pitch and roll) are intergrated into the stick. The way the elevator hinge and arm system work at the tail necessitates that both horizontal stabilizers be lined up pretty close to the center of the pivot point and perpindicular. Having the folding option and the design that necessitates it is what contributes to the problem. If one or both of the horizontal stabilizers/elevetors are allowed to move up or down it can put the sitck in a bind. I know it don't sound right. But you can test it yourself the next time you cables are loose for inspection or maintenance. Move one or both of the horizontal stabilizers up or down a bit. Brace it or have someone hold them. Then try to move the stick fore/aft, left/right. You will notice the stick won't move much off center. At least that was my experience when I was folding because I was jamming a C-172 into a hanger with my Kolb. The C-172 was for my daughter to build hours in for an Aviation Degree. Changed to Air Traffic Controller in the Air Force. Stationed at Hill AFB just north of SLC, Utah. Was real glad to sell that big tank C-172. May look you up on one of the visits. Hope this is helpful. -------- Thanks too much, John Bickham Mark III-C "Using my Repairman Certificate" St. Francisville, LA Do Not Archive Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=121275#121275 ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 08:22:42 PM PST US From: "Richard Girard" Subject: Kolb-List: HKS update ATTN:Dave Bigelow Dave, Just thought I'd check in and see how your HKS is doing. I'm up to little over 20 hours and I'm beginning to figure the little engine out. I have finally figured out how to synchronize the carburetors and thought you might be interested in what I've found. First off, does your engine have a balance line between the two manifolds? Is it the latest ASTM compliant engine? Mine isn't, and the installation and operation manuals that came with my engine are the same revision level as those available online. As I recall, you have the vertical ( HKS terminology) intake manifolds with the carburetor over the head. These were apparently offered, as a pair, with a vacuum port on one intake manifold or on both. I say apparently because this is not documented. The installation manual has a fuel system diagram showing a single vacuum tap for the fuel pump and the text speaks of this, too (section 6.0 Fuel System and figure 5). However, newer pictures of the engine on the web site show a balance line between the manifolds. I have the horizontal intake manifolds, with the carburetor level with the head. They have a vacuum tap on each manifold for a balance line between them and are also undocumented. Bottom line is this. The carburetor synchronizing instructions in the operations manual do not work if you have a balance line connecting the two intakes pneumatically. The balance tube does just as its name implies and does it quite well, too, making it impossible to synch the carbs. In my case, I was getting nice even vacuum readings and the engine seemed smooth. Then, I used the technique for the Rotax 912 (Line Maintenance Manual, chapter 12-00, pages 18 through 20) and the results were startling. There was a 3" difference in vacuum readings at 3000 RPM once the intake manifolds were isolated. Correcting this by adjusting the long throttle cable, and nothing else, increased the RPM to 3500. In flight, my cruising RPM, where Meadowlark can maintain level flight in still air, dropped from 4700 to 4500 RPM and max RPM at WOT went up to 6200 from 6100. I was also able to decrease idle RPM from 1750 to 1600. The manual recommends a 1400 RPM idle, but even with the carbs synched as close as I can get them I find it too rough. Because Meadowlark, having a very large wing, is so slow, most of the power of the HKS isn't used. Climb power is abundant, but I haven't been able to get in a dawn flight to measure still air ROC. The flip side of the low power cruise is excellent economy. I flew a total of 4.5 hours on the last tank that included a couple of evenings of pattern work for a total of 20 landings in that time. Refilling the tank took a little over 8 gallons. Once the rain stops, I'll get some fuel consumption numbers for the new tuning. Rick -- Rick Girard "Ya'll drop on in" takes on a whole new meaning when you live at the airport. ________________________________ Message 14 ____________________________________ Time: 08:35:54 PM PST US From: "John Hauck" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: HKS update ATTN:Dave Bigelow In flight, my cruising | RPM, where Meadowlark can maintain level flight in still air, dropped from | 4700 to 4500 RPM | | Rick Rick: Could you explain the above change in performance. I don't understand how balancing carbs has anything to do with rpm setting and maintaining level flight. 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