---------------------------------------------------------- Kolb-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Sat 06/30/07: 15 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 02:03 AM - Re: HKS update ATTN:Dave Bigelow (Dave Bigelow) 2. 05:59 AM - Re: HKS update ATTN:Dave Bigelow (lucien) 3. 06:34 AM - Re: HKS update ATTN:Dave Bigelow (Richard Girard) 4. 06:47 AM - Re: HKS update ATTN:Dave Bigelow (John Hauck) 5. 06:56 AM - Re: HKS update ATTN:Dave Bigelow (Richard Girard) 6. 07:00 AM - Re: HKS update ATTN:Dave Bigelow (lucien) 7. 07:29 AM - Re: Re: HKS update ATTN:Dave Bigelow (Richard Girard) 8. 02:05 PM - Re: Starhill-Nauga Field Fly Around - July 13th, 14th, 15th (John Williamson) 9. 03:18 PM - Evelyn "Mama Bird" Johnson (Bob Noyer) 10. 03:43 PM - Re: Ms Dixie update (Paul Petty) 11. 04:35 PM - Kolb Flyer (grabo172) 12. 06:58 PM - Re: Dual controls (Mike Welch) 13. 07:48 PM - Re: Dual controls (David Key) 14. 07:49 PM - Re: Dual controls (John Hauck) 15. 07:50 PM - Re: Re: Starhill-Nauga Field Fly Around - July 13th, 14th, 15th (David Key) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 02:03:27 AM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Re: HKS update ATTN:Dave Bigelow From: "Dave Bigelow" Rick, My HKS came with the balance line between the two intake manifolds. When I balanced the carbs with two vacuum gauges, I figured that the balance procedure couldn't work properly with the balance line open. I plugged the balance line, and then did the balance procedure. I have almost 25 hours on the engine now, and can't say much except it just works. Cruise RPM for the Firestar II is in the range of 4,800 - 5,100 RPM, depending on altitude. I haven't flown any one flight over 2.5 hours, but it looks to me like I should get slightly over 4 hours flying time on 10 gallons of gas. I'm really liking the engine, and have made several flights now over terrain that would have made me very uncomfortable with the 503. I'm suprised that Kolb doesn't offer the engine as an option for the FS II. -------- Dave Bigelow Kamuela, Hawaii FS2, HKS 700E Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=121322#121322 ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 05:59:05 AM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Re: HKS update ATTN:Dave Bigelow From: "lucien" What prop do you run, type and diameter? Do you have any details on mounting? i.e. any mods you had to make etc.? It's interesting that the HKS weighs only slightly more than my 503 + C box. I've thought off and on about an HKS since I live at 7000'. I flew my FS II yesterday evening in 9000+ density altitude and, er, lots of full throttle was required ;). So more climb power would be appreciated... The HKS seems to be doing well, I've seen it offered more often, some trike manufactureres like Air Creation are starting to offer that motor on some of their models... LS -------- LS FS II Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=121333#121333 ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 06:34:17 AM PST US From: "Richard Girard" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: HKS update ATTN:Dave Bigelow John, Look at it as though there are two separate engines hooked together. One cylinder is running at -3" Hg vacuum, the other at -6" Hg vacuum. Opening the throttle on the cylinder with the higher vacuum brings the vacuum down and the rpm on that cylinder increases. As the vacuum readings are brought into synch the overall horsepower of the engine produced increases. In my case the increase in horsepower was enough that the engine was producing the same HP at 4500 RPM that it had at 4700 RPM when the carbs were out of synch. Rick On 6/29/07, John Hauck wrote: > > > > In flight, my cruising > dropped from > > > Rick: > > Could you explain the above change in performance. > > I don't understand how balancing carbs has anything to do with rpm > setting and maintaining level flight. > > Thanks, > > john h > mkIII > > -- Rick Girard "Ya'll drop on in" takes on a whole new meaning when you live at the airport. ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 06:47:03 AM PST US From: "John Hauck" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: HKS update ATTN:Dave Bigelow | was producing the same HP at 4500 RPM that it had at 4700 RPM when the carbs | were out of synch. | | Rick Does that mean you repitched the prop to compensate for the increase in hp? john h mkIII ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 06:56:43 AM PST US From: "Richard Girard" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: HKS update ATTN:Dave Bigelow Prop pitch is next on the list to be evaluated, however, if I don't exceed 6200 RPM in climb, I'll leave it as is. The nature of the wing is such that I cannot do a full RPM check in level flight. Rick On 6/30/07, John Hauck wrote: > > > > the carbs > > > Does that mean you repitched the prop to compensate for the increase > in hp? > > john h > mkIII > > -- Rick Girard "Ya'll drop on in" takes on a whole new meaning when you live at the airport. ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 07:00:44 AM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Re: HKS update ATTN:Dave Bigelow From: "lucien" John Hauck wrote: > the carbs > > > Does that mean you repitched the prop to compensate for the increase > in hp? > > john h > mkIII I'm slightly confused as well - is that at full throttle at these rpms? LS -------- LS FS II Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=121347#121347 ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 07:29:03 AM PST US From: "Richard Girard" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: HKS update ATTN:Dave Bigelow Lucien, My HKS is installed on a trike (weight shift control aircraft). 4700 RPM is far below engine redline (5800 RPM continuous), but the nature of the flex wing doesn't allow me to do full power and level flight at the same time. Rick On 6/30/07, lucien wrote: > > > > John Hauck wrote: > > | In my case the increase in horsepower was enough that the engine > > | was producing the same HP at 4500 RPM that it had at 4700 RPM when > > the carbs > > | were out of synch. > > | > > | Rick > > > > > > Does that mean you repitched the prop to compensate for the increase > > in hp? > > > > john h > > mkIII > > > I'm slightly confused as well - is that at full throttle at these rpms? > > LS > > -------- > LS > FS II > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=121347#121347 > > -- Rick Girard "Ya'll drop on in" takes on a whole new meaning when you live at the airport. ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 02:05:18 PM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Starhill-Nauga Field Fly Around - July 13th, 14th, 15th From: "John Williamson" Updated the attending list and added a name. .. .. John Williamson John Hauck Gary Haley Steven Green Paul Petty Charlie Harris Bruce & Tina Williams Ken Korenek . .. -------- John Williamson Arlington, TX Kolbra, 912ULS http://home.tx.rr.com/kolbrapilot Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=121406#121406 ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 03:18:22 PM PST US From: Bob Noyer Subject: Kolb-List: Evelyn "Mama Bird" Johnson Just a had a nice call from Miz Evelyn. Those of you who know her will be pleased to hear that she has been back at work as FBO at Morristown TN in spite of the loss of part of a leg, from a traffic accident last year. At 97, she's a real piece of work. As a flight instructor she has logged more hours, trained more pilots, and given more FAA exams than any other pilot. She will honored at the National Aviation Hall of Fame on 7/21/07, Dayton OH. Clik on http:// tinyurl.com/ygzjsz Any one have a dark suit and a $150 in disposable spondulix? regards, Bob N. FireFly 070 Old Kolb http://www.angelfire.com/rpg/ronoy/ ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 03:43:42 PM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Ms Dixie update From: "Paul Petty" Ms. Dixie got her airworthy cert. @ 1:00pm CST today. Airplane checked out 100% however paper work was not in order. I highly recomend to anyone useing a IA or DAR to request a form of "needed" documents WAY before hand. I had to go find a notary on a Saturday morning to whitness my signature on a paper that states I built the airplane. Not an easy thing to do in a small town but i got-her-done. Next was I had no airframe log book. A MUST in my case and with good luck we found a new un-used one! Most have posted that the check out lasted less than an hour.. mine started at 9:00am and finished at 2:30pm. This was mainly in part to 1. DAR was old flying buddy of Charley and 2 my lack of paperwork. Heck he spent more time drooling over the RV8 than he did checking out the Kolbra. Ken Reeves and Ms. Bobby came over for the event and we had a great visit. It was a long HOT 24 hr day to get her done but we are good to go. BTW Ms. Dixie weighed in at 590lbs Empty... this was a shocking discovery as i was thinking more along the lines of 700 lbs with all the mods. W&B revealed that she is out of CG with full fuel and a 175 pilot solo front seat but were not sold on the numbers given to us and will re check this over closely. Ben a long day and Im' going to shower and soak in the pool for an early start in the morning for a possible "First flight" some time after 08.00 we will see.... -------- Paul Petty Kolbra #12 Ms Dixie Wating for final inspection and cert. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=121425#121425 ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 04:35:03 PM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Kolb Flyer From: "grabo172" Just saw this on TNK website! Any idea on a price? http://www.tnkolbaircraft.com/index.html -------- -Erik Grabowski Kolb Firestar N197BG CFI/CFII/LS-I Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=121441#121441 ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 06:58:40 PM PST US From: "Mike Welch" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Dual controls John H. Who in the hell made you God, and said it was okay for you to say any insulting "mightier than thou" comment you want? The last time I checked, this sport we engage in was called "Experimental" aviation, whereby anyone can test their talents and they have the freedom to do as they darn well please when it comes to building and maintaining an aircraft they choose. They can build, improve upon, alter, and even simply assemble, whatever their little heart desires. And I would have also thought they would have been free from ridicule and condescension, just because their choices don't match your approval. While your allegiance to Kolb and all things original equipment has been well stated, I really don't believe others should have to endure snide comments from you. I am not trying to be confrontational, but I'll be damned if I'll just stand by and be insulted on my choices to build my airplane. You don't have that right. And if you want to continue THIS pissing match back copy, you have my email address. (And phone number 435-817-1816) >From: "John Hauck" >To: >Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Dual controls >Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2007 17:24:55 -0500 > > > > | I presently have a center single control stick, and I plan on >converting >| it to "dual controls". > | Thanks, >Mike in SW >| Utah > > >Mike: > >If your counterfit project fails, give Travis a call at TNK, he'll be >glad to send you the complete setup. I think they are still a bolt in >kit. > >john h >mkIII with the first set of dual controls in a Kolb. Still working >after 2,660+ hours. > > _________________________________________________________________ Like puzzles? Play free games & earn great prizes. Play Clink now. http://club.live.com/clink.aspx?icid=clink_hotmailtextlink2 ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 07:48:25 PM PST US From: "David Key" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Dual controls Heres one. ________________________________ Message 14 ____________________________________ Time: 07:49:22 PM PST US From: "John Hauck" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Dual controls "The last time I checked, this sport we engage in was called "Experimental" aviation, whereby anyone can test their talents and they have the freedom to do as they darn well please when it comes to building and maintaining an aircraft they choose. They can build, improve upon, alter, and even simply assemble, whatever their little heart desires" Mike W: Guess the request for photos to copy the Kolb dual controls hit me the wrong way. The first dual controls in a Kolb aircraft were designed and fabricated by my Brother Jim and a good friend of ours, that is no longer with us. This was done in 1991. I would like to add that it took 4 iterations of the controls to come up with a good, workable set that I have been flying with since 1992, and what TNK started shipping with their kits. Old Kolb came up with a set of dual controls that did not work well, some time after we had successfully gotten ours flying. Soon after TNK got their organization operating, Brother Jim made a set of jigs for our dual controls and gave them to TNK. I apologize for my comment. Should have thought a little longer before I reacted. I hope this will help explain my poor choice of words in response to your request for photos of the dual controls. john h mkIII DO NOT ARCHIVE ________________________________ Message 15 ____________________________________ Time: 07:50:32 PM PST US From: "David Key" Subject: RE: Kolb-List: Re: Starhill-Nauga Field Fly Around - July 13th, 14th, 15th Pencil me in for a maybe. Sometimes work has their way with me and spoils all my fun. I should know something on the 10th or so. 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