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1. 02:17 AM - Re: HKS update ATTN:Dave Bigelow (Dave Bigelow)
2. 06:07 AM - Re: HKS update ATTN:Dave Bigelow (lucien)
3. 06:12 AM - Re: HKS update ATTN:Dave Bigelow (lucien)
4. 08:13 AM - Fuel Flow Rate (planecrazzzy)
5. 08:33 AM - Re: Dual controls (HShack@aol.com)
6. 09:06 AM - Ms Dixie First flight (Paul Petty)
7. 10:20 AM - Re: Fuel Flow Rate (Richard Girard)
8. 10:29 AM - Re: Ms Dixie First flight (planecrazzzy)
9. 10:43 AM - Re: Fuel Flow Rate (planecrazzzy)
10. 11:38 AM - Re: Ms Dixie First flight (Larry Bourne)
11. 11:55 AM - Re: Ms Dixie First flight (Paul Petty)
12. 12:56 PM - Re: Dual controls (Jack B. Hart)
13. 01:40 PM - Re: Fuel Flow Rate (lucien)
14. 01:41 PM - Re: Fuel Flow Rate (Richard Pike)
15. 02:07 PM - Re: HKS update ATTN:Dave Bigelow (Roger Lee)
16. 02:15 PM - Re: Fuel Flow Rate (planecrazzzy)
17. 03:01 PM - Re: Re: Fuel Flow Rate (Richard Pike)
18. 04:48 PM - Re: Fuel Flow Rate (George Alexander)
19. 06:09 PM - Re: Fuel Flow Rate (planecrazzzy)
20. 06:10 PM - Re: Re: Ms Dixie First flight (Charlie England)
21. 06:13 PM - Re: Kolb Flyer (DANIEL WALTER)
22. 06:19 PM - Re: Ms Dixie First flight (planecrazzzy)
23. 07:50 PM - Re: Fuel Flow Rate (lucien)
24. 07:53 PM - Re: Kolb Flyer (lucien)
25. 08:00 PM - Re: Fuel Flow Rate (Charlie England)
26. 08:18 PM - Re: HKS update ATTN:Dave Bigelow (JetPilot)
27. 08:32 PM - Re: Dual controls (JetPilot)
28. 11:31 PM - Official Kolb-List FAQ (Frequently Asked Questions) (Matt Dralle)
29. 11:35 PM - Official Kolb-List Usage Guidelines (Matt Dralle)
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| Subject: | Re: HKS update ATTN:Dave Bigelow |
lucien,
> What prop do you run, type and diameter? Do you have any details on mounting?
i.e. any mods you had to make etc.?
>
Using a Powerfin 66 inch 2 blade with the HKS 2.58:1 gearbox. It's the same prop
I used with the B Box Rotax 503. I did have to dial in some more pitch to
keep the RPM under red line. I pitched so I would reach red line at full throttle
at 55 mph.
I did the project with the help of Jerry Olenick at Green Sky Adventures. He has
all the mounting info, pictures,etc, and is planning on offering a bolt-on
kit. I did the entire conversion without drilling any extra holes or cutting
or welding the Firestar stock mounts. It is literally a "bolt on" conversion.
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Kamuela, Hawaii
FS2, HKS 700E
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| Subject: | Re: HKS update ATTN:Dave Bigelow |
jindoguy(at)gmail.com wrote:
> Lucien, My HKS is installed on a trike (weight shift control aircraft). 4700
RPM is far below engine redline (5800 RPM continuous), but the nature of the flex
wing doesn't allow me to do full power and level flight at the same time.
>
> Rick
>
Understood, so am curious how you know you're now getting more hp at 4500 than
you were before at 4700?
Not sure how this can be determined at anything other than full throttle and even
then without some relatively sophisticated means of measurement?
Or is the throttle setting vastly lower now than it needed to be before or ?
You should be able to do a full power run in level flight by pulling the bar all
the way in, if you don't exceed Vne in the process. I got my fun racer up to
over 80mph that way with the XP11 wing fitted, though it had some more to go
still.... With the single surface, it'd still climb 500fpm at full power with
the bar all the way in though.
I flew trikes for about 4 years too, I loved em, but I'm glad to be back in 3-axis
;)
LS
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| Subject: | Re: HKS update ATTN:Dave Bigelow |
Dave Bigelow wrote:
> lucien,
>
>
> > What prop do you run, type and diameter? Do you have any details on mounting?
i.e. any mods you had to make etc.?
> >
>
> Using a Powerfin 66 inch 2 blade with the HKS 2.58:1 gearbox. It's the same
prop I used with the B Box Rotax 503. I did have to dial in some more pitch to
keep the RPM under red line. I pitched so I would reach red line at full throttle
at 55 mph.
>
> I did the project with the help of Jerry Olenick at Green Sky Adventures. He
has all the mounting info, pictures,etc, and is planning on offering a bolt-on
kit. I did the entire conversion without drilling any extra holes or cutting
or welding the Firestar stock mounts. It is literally a "bolt on" conversion.
Ah, the Olenik's, ok.... Can't do better than working with those guys. I had Tom
Olenik do maintenance on a couple of my 503's and he does just superb work.....
They're doing lots of good support on the HKS now too.
I do have a spare powerfin 68" in 3-blades. Does the HKS turn right hand in pusher
config like the 2-stroke? hmm... I'll have to keep that prop around then ;)
LS
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Hey Guys,
My fuel flow rate seems to be worst since I changed from
3 blade ( IVO ) to 2 blade....
My CHT is 250 ....EGT 1080.....
I don't think changing the Needles would be good , because my
Tempertures seem to be almost perfect.....
Before , at 5900 , I'd burn around 4.0 - 4.5 at cruise
Now it's more like 4.5 - 5.1..... I'm hauling azz at the same 5900
but I'm paying for it in fuel flow....
Just thought I'd throw this out there and see what you guy think...
Gotta Fly...
Mike & "Jaz" in MN
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| Subject: | Re: Dual controls |
In a message dated 6/30/2007 9:59:14 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
mdnanwelch7@hotmail.com writes:
John H.
Who in the hell made you God, and said it was okay for you to say any
insulting "mightier than thou" comment you want?
WOW! What a touchy guy! Some people don't want to hear the truth.
Howard Shackleford
FS II
SC
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| Subject: | Ms Dixie First flight |
Well guys with Charley at the controls at 7:45am this morning Ms Dixie left the
ground and flew like any Kolb aircraft should fly. No problems to report and
he made a womderful landing.
http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=kolbra012
Video is here and Im sorry for the length of dead air time but i dont know how
to edit it down yet
Enjoy!
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Paul Petty
Kolbra #12
Ms Dixie
Time to make first flight!
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| Subject: | Re: Fuel Flow Rate |
Mike, I'm assuming the CHT and EGT readings you gave are both in Fahrenheit.
According to the Rotax Operators Manual, page 10-1, the CHT your getting is
outside the normal operating range on the low side. You should be seeing 350
to 430. Seems like you could safely drop the needle one groove and see if
that helps.
Just for grins, I looked up the fuel consumption charts for the 447 and 503
(pages 10-3, 10-4). Interesting that both engines have the same specific
fuel consumption of about .85 lb per horsepower hour. At 6000 RPM the 447
makes about 37 HP and the 503 about 47. So, according to the good engineers
in Austria the 447 should use about 31.5 lb. of fuel per hour (5.2 gph) and
the 503 should use about 40 lb. (6.6 gph)
Rick
On 7/1/07, planecrazzzy <planecrazzzy@yahoo.com> wrote:
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> Hey Guys,
> My fuel flow rate seems to be worst since I changed from
>
> 3 blade ( IVO ) to 2 blade....
>
> My CHT is 250 ....EGT 1080.....
>
> I don't think changing the Needles would be good , because my
>
> Tempertures seem to be almost perfect.....
>
> Before , at 5900 , I'd burn around 4.0 - 4.5 at cruise
>
> Now it's more like 4.5 - 5.1..... I'm hauling azz at the same 5900
>
> but I'm paying for it in fuel flow....
>
>
> Just thought I'd throw this out there and see what you guy think...
>
> Gotta Fly...
> Mike & "Jaz" in MN
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"Ya'll drop on in"
takes on a whole new meaning
when you live at the airport.
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| Subject: | Re: Ms Dixie First flight |
Congratulations on yer birds first flight...
Too bad you gave it to somebody else...
Looking back , it was a great experiance flying the plane after
taking all that time to build it....
SCARY , but for no reason , it flew fine...
Do you have to get "current" or "Tailwheel endorsement"
Or 5 hrs in a "Like aircraft" ?( insurance reasons )
What was the reason for having somebody else fly it ?
Gotta Fly...
Mike & "Jaz" in MN
PS I'm downloading the youtube now....( Dial up )
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| Subject: | Re: Fuel Flow Rate |
I Don't have my "sender" under the Spark Plug....I put it under a
Head bolt....I think it runs "alittle" cooler there....
I'm mostly looking at the EGT....
I guess it wouldn't hurt to lower the needle and see what it reads...
Gotta Fly...
Mike & "Jaz" in MN
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[quote="jindoguy(at)gmail.com"]Mike, I'm assuming the CHT and EGT readings you
gave are both in Fahrenheit. According to the Rotax Operators Manual, page 10-1,
the CHT your getting is outside the normal operating range on the low side.
You should be seeing 350 to 430. Seems like you could safely drop the needle
one groove and see if that helps.
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| Subject: | Re: Ms Dixie First flight |
Congratulations, Paul. You earned that, and it's gotta be a good feeling.
When do you plan to take it up yourself ?? Lar.
On 7/1/07, Paul Petty <paulpetty@myway.com> wrote:
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>
> Well guys with Charley at the controls at 7:45am this morning Ms Dixie
> left the ground and flew like any Kolb aircraft should fly. No problems to
> report and he made a womderful landing.
>
> http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=kolbra012
>
> Video is here and Im sorry for the length of dead air time but i dont know
> how to edit it down yet
>
> Enjoy!
>
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> Paul Petty
> Kolbra #12
> Ms Dixie
> Time to make first flight!
>
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| Subject: | Re: Ms Dixie First flight |
Mike and Jazz,
I havent flown this type aircraft except one demo flight at TNK with Brian with
me in the back seat. I am not current and in no way ready to fly this airplane.
Charley (my father-n-law and co owner/builder) was the man for the job with
over 20K plus hrs and over 5K tail wheel time. From advice from our good friends
John Hauck,John Williamson, Mark german and John Bickham, Charley was the
only canidate. I would have loved to make the maiden flight however I'm simply
not ready. As for the future it is now time for me to dive back into training
and learn how to fly a Kolbra aircraft. 40 hrs well 39 now, need to be flown
off with our 30 mile test area and while that is being done I will get the rest
of my training done and hope to get my SP ticket in Ms Dixie.
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Kolbra #12
Ms Dixie
Time to make first flight!
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| Subject: | Re: Dual controls |
At 09:49 PM 6/30/07 -0500, you wrote:
>
>"The last time I checked, this sport we engage in was called
>"Experimental" aviation, whereby anyone can test their talents and
>they have
>the freedom to do as they darn well please when it comes to building
>and
>maintaining an aircraft they choose. They can build, improve upon,
>alter,
>and even simply assemble, whatever their little heart desires"
>
>
>Mike W:
>
>Guess the request for photos to copy the Kolb dual controls hit me the
>wrong way.
>
>The first dual controls in a Kolb aircraft were designed and
>fabricated by my Brother Jim and a good friend of ours, that is no
>longer with us. This was done in 1991. I would like to add that it
>took 4 iterations of the controls to come up with a good, workable set
>that I have been flying with since 1992, and what TNK started shipping
>with their kits. Old Kolb came up with a set of dual controls that
>did not work well, some time after we had successfully gotten ours
>flying. Soon after TNK got their organization operating, Brother Jim
>made a set of jigs for our dual controls and gave them to TNK.
>
>I apologize for my comment. Should have thought a little longer
>before I reacted. I hope this will help explain my poor choice of
>words in response to your request for photos of the dual controls.
>
>john h
>mkIII
>
John,
For continuity of the thread, I believe this should be part of the archive.
Jack B. Hart FF004
Winchester, IN
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| Subject: | Re: Fuel Flow Rate |
planecrazzzy wrote:
> Hey Guys,
> My fuel flow rate seems to be worst since I changed from
>
> 3 blade ( IVO ) to 2 blade....
>
> My CHT is 250 ....EGT 1080.....
>
> I don't think changing the Needles would be good , because my
>
> Tempertures seem to be almost perfect.....
>
> Before , at 5900 , I'd burn around 4.0 - 4.5 at cruise
>
> Now it's more like 4.5 - 5.1..... I'm hauling azz at the same 5900
>
> but I'm paying for it in fuel flow....
>
>
> Just thought I'd throw this out there and see what you guy think...
>
> Gotta Fly...
> Mike & "Jaz" in MN
Ok, going to p*** some guys off because I'm going against the books, but safety
first....
On the CHT for the 447 and 503: the temp range for the CHTs given in the Rotax
manual is wrong. Do NOT attempt to run CHT's hotter than about 350F. The engine
WILL sieze at about 410F and consistent operation at 375F up will bring that
TBO down a BUNCH.
On a broken-in 503, the CHT's should sit at around 300F. If you're working the
motor hard, 310 to 320F will be seen and is ok. On the 447, you'll see 320 to
330F at typical cruise and it'll run up to 350F in a climb. that's ok too.
BUT, if you seen CHT's hotter than 350F on a consistent basis on either engine,
you've got a problem that needs to be addressed.
Ok, now that that's out of the way....
1080 on the EGT at cruise is fine, it's even ok at full throttle, though I like
to see between 1000 and 1050 at WOT.
What is probable is that you have more load on the motor at cruise now. This was
a similar result I got with my IVO when I flew it on my trike. I took off a
blade and the EGT's went down about 50F at cruise due to the additional load at
the same RPM's (I cruised about 5300rpm on that plane).
5900 rpm on a regular basis is working the engine a little hard (what's your cruise
speed at that rpm) on a FS II (is that your plane?), so fuel burn that high
doesn't surprise me.
I run about 5300 to 5400 rpm on my FSII (about 60mph) and burn about 3gph....
LS
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| Subject: | Re: Fuel Flow Rate |
What is the rpm at full throttle in level flight?
Richard Pike
MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
----- Original Message -----
From: "planecrazzzy" <planecrazzzy@yahoo.com>
Sent: Sunday, July 01, 2007 11:12 AM
Subject: Kolb-List: Fuel Flow Rate
>
> Hey Guys,
> My fuel flow rate seems to be worst since I changed from
>
> 3 blade ( IVO ) to 2 blade....
>
> My CHT is 250 ....EGT 1080.....
>
> I don't think changing the Needles would be good , because my
>
> Tempertures seem to be almost perfect.....
>
> Before , at 5900 , I'd burn around 4.0 - 4.5 at cruise
>
> Now it's more like 4.5 - 5.1..... I'm hauling azz at the same 5900
>
> but I'm paying for it in fuel flow....
>
>
> Just thought I'd throw this out there and see what you guy think...
>
> Gotta Fly...
> Mike & "Jaz" in MN
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| Subject: | Re: HKS update ATTN:Dave Bigelow |
Hi Rick,
Good post. I have been trying to get everyone to do a pneumatic sync. Just doing
a mechanical sync. is no substitue. Two different critters. The mechanical sync
only sets the idle screws and does not adjust the cables. The pneumatic sync.
doesn't touch the idle screws, but adjust the unevenness of the cables. Don't
forget to turn the idle mixture screws (on the underside of the carbs) on
the Rotax 912 1.5 turns during the mechanical sync.
If you don't do a pneumatic sync then one side of the engine is trying to run at
a different rpm from the other side.
A pneumatic sync can effect the engine vibration, temps, hp and rpm depending on
how far out they are. I have had people fly in to Tucson so I could do a complete
sync. The last one was a Zenair and he was 4" of vacumm out and he couldn't
tell by the running engine. I have people call me all the time on how to do
a sync and talk them through it while they are at the airport.
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| Subject: | Re: Fuel Flow Rate |
I haven't kept it full throttle very long in a cruise....Since I've changed
the prop , I've only had windy / gusty flying....
At one point yesterday I reached Vne (Slight decent/downdraft)
I've got it set MORE for cruise....
I think it's about 64 MAX rpm ( maybe a pinch lower )
I've been more busy "Flying" the plane , than studying things...
Richard Pike wrote:
> What is the rpm at full throttle in level flight?
> Richard Pike
> MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
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| Subject: | Re: Fuel Flow Rate |
5900 at cruise seems awful high. My 582 will poke at 6500 at full throttle
in level flight, but I cruise around 65 mph with the tach in the lower 5,000
range, and at that rpm, my fuel burn is less than yours.
Richard Pike
MKIII N420P (420ldpoops)
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From: "planecrazzzy" <planecrazzzy@yahoo.com>
Sent: Sunday, July 01, 2007 5:14 PM
Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Fuel Flow Rate
>
> I haven't kept it full throttle very long in a cruise....Since I've
> changed
>
> the prop , I've only had windy / gusty flying....
>
> At one point yesterday I reached Vne (Slight decent/downdraft)
>
> I've got it set MORE for cruise....
>
> I think it's about 64 MAX rpm ( maybe a pinch lower )
>
> I've been more busy "Flying" the plane , than studying things...
>
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> Richard Pike wrote:
>> What is the rpm at full throttle in level flight?
>> Richard Pike
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| Subject: | Re: Fuel Flow Rate |
Kolbers & Kolbettes:
For what it is worth........
Lucien's numbers are a close representation of what I experience....
FS II, 75 hours, R503, dual carb, DCDI, C box, Powerfin, 3 blade 68". Hardly
worth mentioning, but for normal operations..... 1 TO, cruise for a while, 1 Landing.....
burn rate is just under 2.75gph. Got these results this morning in
SW FL where the OAT was 84 at 0715. (Didn't check the OAT while cruising, but
it wasn't much different at 1500MSL than it was on the ground 27 MSL.)
George Alexander
N709FS
http://gtalexander.home.att.net
lucien wrote:
>
> planecrazzzy wrote:
> > Hey Guys,
> > My fuel flow rate seems to be worst since I changed from
> >
> > 3 blade ( IVO ) to 2 blade....
> >
> > My CHT is 250 ....EGT 1080.....
> >
> > I don't think changing the Needles would be good , because my
> >
> > Tempertures seem to be almost perfect.....
> >
> > Before , at 5900 , I'd burn around 4.0 - 4.5 at cruise
> >
> > Now it's more like 4.5 - 5.1..... I'm hauling azz at the same 5900
> >
> > but I'm paying for it in fuel flow....
> >
> >
> > Just thought I'd throw this out there and see what you guy think...
> >
> > Gotta Fly...
> > Mike & "Jaz" in MN
>
>
>
>
> On a broken-in 503, the CHT's should sit at around 300F. If you're working the
motor hard, 310 to 320F will be seen and is ok. On the 447, you'll see 320 to
330F at typical cruise and it'll run up to 350F in a climb. that's ok too.
>
> BUT, if you seen CHT's hotter than 350F on a consistent basis on either engine,
you've got a problem that needs to be addressed.
>
> Ok, now that that's out of the way....
>
> 1080 on the EGT at cruise is fine, it's even ok at full throttle, though I like
to see between 1000 and 1050 at WOT.
>
>
>
>
> I run about 5300 to 5400 rpm on my FSII (about 60mph) and burn about 3gph....
>
> LS
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| Subject: | Re: Fuel Flow Rate |
Basicly , I'm going off what John said for Best Performance
5,800 RPM / 75% power for the 503...
Maybe , I'll take a little pitch out of it.....and put the R's back to 6500
Gotta Fly...
Mike in MN, FSII / N381PM
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| Subject: | Re: Ms Dixie First flight |
Paul Petty wrote:
>
> Mike and Jazz,
>
> I havent flown this type aircraft except one demo flight at TNK with
> Brian with me in the back seat. I am not current and in no way ready
> to fly this airplane. Charley (my father-n-law and co owner/builder)
> was the man for the job with over 20K plus hrs and over 5K tail wheel
> time. From advice from our good friends John Hauck,John Williamson,
> Mark german and John Bickham, Charley was the only canidate. I would
> have loved to make the maiden flight however I'm simply not ready. As
> for the future it is now time for me to dive back into training and
> learn how to fly a Kolbra aircraft. 40 hrs well 39 now, need to be
> flown off with our 30 mile test area and while that is being done I
> will get the rest of my training done and hope to get my SP ticket in
> Ms Dixie.
>
> -------- Paul Petty Kolbra #12 Ms Dixie Time to make first flight!
>
>
Congrats on the successful 1st flight, but even more kudos on your
exceptionally good judgment. If more homebuilders were to make that kind
of logical, rational analysis, we'd have fewer dead homebuilders & bent
airplanes.
Way to go!
Charlie
Slobovia Outernational Airport
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I know I can't afford it!!!
Dan
Palmyra PA.
Ultrastar
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----- Original Message -----
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Sent: Saturday, June 30, 2007 7:33 PM
Subject: Kolb-List: Kolb Flyer
>
> Just saw this on TNK website! Any idea on a price?
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| Subject: | Re: Ms Dixie First flight |
Well, at least now starts the fun stuff.....FLYING
and Just think.....now, you too , can say....
I beat "Big Lar" in the Air.... ( sorry Big Lar )
Gotta Fly...
Mike & "Jaz" in MN
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Paul Petty wrote:
> Mike and Jazz,
>
> Charley was the only canidate. I would have loved to make the maiden flight
however I'm simply not ready. As for the future it is now time for me to dive
back into training and learn how to fly a Kolbra aircraft. 40 hrs well 39 now,
need to be flown off with our 30 mile test area and while that is being done
I will get the rest of my training done and hope to get my SP ticket in Ms Dixie.
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| Subject: | Re: Fuel Flow Rate |
planecrazzzy wrote:
> Basicly , I'm going off what John said for Best Performance
>
> 5,800 RPM / 75% power for the 503...
>
> Maybe , I'll take a little pitch out of it.....and put the R's back to 6500
>
>
> Gotta Fly...
> Mike in MN, FSII / N381PM
Agreed that 5800 continuous is running the motor a bit hard. It won't really hurt
it in the short term, though it may eventually take a few hours off the TBO
down the line, as well as burn more gas than you really have to.
The "sweet spot" on the 503 is about 5400 rpm for cruise (i.e. according to Mark
Smith who's been running/servicing the Rotaxen for several decades). 6500 is
a good maximum for climb, though on my FS II, I have to run the pitch too fine
in cruise if I prop for 6500 on climbout. A good compromise on mine has been
6300-6350 for climbout, then I can run around 5300 to 5400 at an about 60mph
cruise.
LS
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grabo172 wrote:
> Just saw this on TNK website! Any idea on a price?
>
> http://www.tnkolbaircraft.com/index.html
>
>
A lot......
The SLSA like these seem to run around 80 to 100k. I could build a titan AND a
Kolbra for scratch like that and have lots more plane in each one ;)....
Sorry, couldn't resist... look like a nice plane tho...
LS
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| Subject: | Re: Fuel Flow Rate |
planecrazzzy wrote:
>
> Hey Guys,
> My fuel flow rate seems to be worst since I changed from
>
> 3 blade ( IVO ) to 2 blade....
>
> My CHT is 250 ....EGT 1080.....
>
> I don't think changing the Needles would be good , because my
>
> Tempertures seem to be almost perfect.....
>
> Before , at 5900 , I'd burn around 4.0 - 4.5 at cruise
>
> Now it's more like 4.5 - 5.1..... I'm hauling azz at the same 5900
>
> but I'm paying for it in fuel flow....
>
>
> Just thought I'd throw this out there and see what you guy think...
>
> Gotta Fly...
> Mike & "Jaz" in MN
>
Assuming that your original prop was anything close to correct for the
airframe:
If the only thing you changed was the prop, and now you are going
faster, then your fuel burn will be higher; it's simple physics. Power
required goes up at something like the cube of the airspeed change. If
you had a manifold pressure gauge, it would almost certainly read higher
than before as you are going faster at the same RPM.
Think about a manual shift car in 1st gear or 5th gear. 2000 rpm in 1st
gear burns less gas than 2000 rpm in 5th gear, because you aren't going
as fast & the engine isn't working as hard.
More speed (power) costs more fuel. How much do you want to spend? :-)
Charlie
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| Subject: | Re: HKS update ATTN:Dave Bigelow |
Roger Lee talked me through the carb sync for my 912-s, and it needed it !!!
Once you understand the procedure, its very straight foward and easy to do.
The only hard thing is getting the small hose clamps back on the balance tube
after you are done [Evil or Very Mad]
Thanks Roger !!!
Mike
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| Subject: | Re: Dual controls |
I would have to also suggest that you buy the dual controls from TNK. They work
perfectly, and will save you a lot of work that has already been done by others.
Aside from the obvious advantages of dual sticks in training, if the stick
breaks off in your hand while you are flying, you can just reach over and fly
with the other stick [Laughing]
Given the amount of time it will take you to develop and scratch build these dual
controls, you will be better off to work some overtime and buy the dual controls
from Kolb and bolt them on.
Here are some pictures of mine, maybe after seeing this you will like the factory
ones so much that you might just buy them.
Mike
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| Subject: | Official Kolb-List Usage Guidelines |
Dear Listers,
Please read over the Kolb-List Usage Guidelines below. The complete
Kolb-List FAQ including these Usage Guidelines can be found at the
following URL:
http://www.matronics.com/FAQs/Kolb-List.FAQ.html
Thank you,
Matt Dralle
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Kolb-List Usage Guidelines
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The following details the official Usage Guidelines for the Kolb-List.
You are encouraged to read it carefully, and to abide by the rules therein.
Failure to use the Kolb-List in the manner described below may result
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Kolb-List Policy Statement
The purpose of the Kolb-List is to provide a forum of discussion for
things related to this particular discussion group. The List's goals
are to serve as an information resource to its members; to deliver
high-quality content; to provide moral support; to foster camaraderie
among its members; and to support safe operation. Reaching these goals
requires the participation and cooperation of each and every member of
the List. To this end, the following guidelines have been established:
- Please keep all posts related to the List at some level. Do not submit
posts concerning computer viruses, urban legends, random humor, long
lost buddies' phone numbers, etc. etc.
- THINK carefully before you write. Ask yourself if your post will be
relevant to everyone. If you have to wonder about that, DON'T send it.
- Remember that your post will be included for posterity in an archive
that is growing in size at an extraordinary rate. Try to be concise and
terse in your posts. Avoid overly wordy and lengthy posts and
responses.
- Keep your signature brief. Please include your name, email address,
aircraft type/tail number, and geographic location. A short line
about where you are in the building process is also nice. Avoid
bulky signatures with character graphics; they consume unnecessary
space in the archive.
- DON'T post requests to the List for information when that info is
easily obtainable from other widely available sources. Consult the
web page or FAQ first.
- If you want to respond to a post, DO keep the "Subject:" line of
your response the same as that of the original post. This makes it
easy to find threads in the archive.
- When responding, NEVER quote the *entire* original post in your
response. DO use lines from the original post to help "tune in" the
reader to the topic at hand, but be selective. The impact that
quoting the entire original post has on the size of the archive
can not be overstated!
- When the poster asks you to respond to him/her personally, DO NOT
then go ahead and reply to the List. Be aware that clicking the
"reply" button on your mail package does not necessarily send your
response to the original poster. You might have to actively address
your response with the original poster's email address.
- DO NOT use the List to respond to a post unless you have something
to add that is relevant and has a broad appeal. "Way to go!", "I
agree", and "Congratulations" are all responses that are better sent
to the original poster directly, rather than to the List at large.
- When responding to others' posts, avoid the feeling that you need to
comment on every last point in their posts, unless you can truly
contribute something valuable.
- Feel free to disagree with other viewpoints, BUT keep your tone
polite and respectful. Don't make snide comments, personally attack
other listers, or take the moral high ground on an obviously
controversial issue. This will only cause a pointless debate that
will hurt feelings, waste bandwidth and resolve nothing.
- Occassional posts by vendors or individuals who are regularyly
subscribed to a given List are considered acceptable. Posts by
List members promoting their respective products or items for sale
should be of a friendly, informal nature, and should not resemble
a typical SPAM message. The List isn't about commercialism, but
is about sharing information and knowledge. This applies to
everyone, including those who provide products to the entire
community. Informal presentation and moderation should be the
operatives with respect to advertising on the Lists.
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