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1. 03:35 AM - Re: Re: Ms Dixie First flight (pat ladd)
2. 05:56 AM - Re: Ms Dixie First flight (Ralph B)
3. 07:44 AM - Re: Re: Dual controls (Mike Welch)
4. 07:46 AM - Re: HKS update ATTN:Dave Bigelow (Roger Lee)
5. 08:17 AM - "Magic Bike"gets Damaged (Kirby Dennis Contr MDA/AL)
6. 09:22 AM - Kolb Firefly (Jimmy)
7. 09:32 AM - Flight report (R. Hankins)
8. 09:37 AM - Re: Kolb Firefly (John Williamson)
9. 10:18 AM - Re: Kolb Firefly (Paul Petty)
10. 10:20 AM - Re: Kolb Firefly (Paul Petty)
11. 10:34 AM - Re: Kolb Firefly (Jim Dunn)
12. 10:42 AM - Re: Flight report (jim)
13. 10:46 AM - Re: "Magic Bike"gets Damaged (John Cooley)
14. 11:03 AM - Re: "Magic Bike"gets Damaged (Larry Bourne)
15. 11:04 AM - Re: "Magic Bike"gets Damaged (jam-n)
16. 12:14 PM - Re: Re: Kolb Firefly (Richard Girard)
17. 02:00 PM - Re: Flight report (R. Hankins)
18. 04:18 PM - Noise canceling earbuds (Richard Pike)
19. 04:53 PM - Re: Noise canceling earbuds (herbgh@juno.com)
20. 05:00 PM - Re: "Magic Bike"gets Damaged (Larry Cottrell)
21. 05:03 PM - Re: Noise canceling earbuds (Richard Pike)
22. 05:46 PM - Helmet choice - with David Clark headphone (John H Murphy)
23. 06:12 PM - Re: Flight report (TheWanderingWench)
24. 06:17 PM - Re: "Magic Bike"gets Damaged (TheWanderingWench)
25. 06:27 PM - Re: Noise canceling earbuds (herbgh@juno.com)
26. 07:08 PM - Re: Flight report (John Hauck)
27. 07:24 PM - Re: "Magic Bike"gets Damaged (John Hauck)
28. 08:32 PM - Re: "Magic Bike"gets Damaged (Ralph B)
29. 08:49 PM - Re: Kolb Firefly (Ralph B)
30. 10:02 PM - Re: "Magic Bike"gets Damaged (DAquaNut@aol.com)
31. 10:20 PM - Re: Re: Kolb Firefly (DAquaNut@aol.com)
32. 11:45 PM - Re: Re: Kolb Firefly (Jim Dunn)
33. 11:48 PM - Re: Re: Kolb Firefly (Jim Dunn)
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| Subject: | Re: Ms Dixie First flight |
Congratulations. Looks fine
Pat
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| Subject: | Re: Ms Dixie First flight |
Congratulations Paul after all this time building! This day has long been coming
and now you can look forward to the fruits of your labors.
This aircraft will last you the rest of your life if you take care of it.
Ralph B
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Ralph B
Original Firestar
20 years flying it
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| Subject: | Re: Dual controls |
Mike,
Thank you for your insightful and well explained information, describing
the dual control system from Kolb.
I definitely agree the factory built mechanism is truely a beautiful
example of quality design and workmanship (for which John H. was involved in
the design). I think you have a valid point, too, for the time and
experimentation, it probably wouldn't be worth the trouble to try to
fabricate my own system.
I apologize for lashing out at John. It's just that I do tend to try to
"build my own" on occation and I felt offended that he insinuated I wasn't
"legitimate" or I somehow "stole" something. I do trust my talents at
making a very workable version of almost anything I decide to build. I
fabricate all kinds of products. I can weld, fiberglass, upholster, (among
other trades) many things. (A bonafide Inspector Gadget).
But, as you pointed out, this might be a time when it might not be worth
the effort. Again, my apologies to John, and thanks to you for a well
thought out response.
Mike Welch
>From: "JetPilot" <orcabonita@hotmail.com>
>To: kolb-list@matronics.com
>Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Dual controls
>Date: Sun, 1 Jul 2007 20:31:41 -0700
>
>
>I would have to also suggest that you buy the dual controls from TNK. They
>work perfectly, and will save you a lot of work that has already been done
>by others. Aside from the obvious advantages of dual sticks in training,
>if the stick breaks off in your hand while you are flying, you can just
>reach over and fly with the other stick [Laughing]
>
>Given the amount of time it will take you to develop and scratch build
>these dual controls, you will be better off to work some overtime and buy
>the dual controls from Kolb and bolt them on.
>
>Here are some pictures of mine, maybe after seeing this you will like the
>factory ones so much that you might just buy them.
>
>Mike
>
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>could have !!!
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| Subject: | Re: HKS update ATTN:Dave Bigelow |
Hi Mike,
Your Welcome.
Anytime
It does make a difference.
I have tried to tell people that if it hasn't been done in the last 100 hrs. or
never then it needs it. Like you said, once you've done it once then it's very
straight forward.
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Roger Lee
Tucson, Az.
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| Subject: | "Magic Bike"gets Damaged |
Dear Kolb Friends -
It is with a heavy heart that I share this story with you. But if what
I pass on can save any of you from repeating my mistake, then it is
worth the telling.
Last week, I experienced an off-airport landing in my Mark-III. It was
a beautiful Sunday morning, and I was flying with my 13-year-old son,
Michael. We were about 30 miles from our home airport, when I suddenly
heard a loud bang, followed by some significant vibration in the engine.
I knew that something bigger than a bolt or muffler spring had gone thru
the prop.
We were over some salt flats in this part of central New Mexico, so I
elected to do a precautionary landing on the dry lake bed below us. It
turns out that the lake bed was far from dry. What looked like dry,
solid ground was in fact merely a half-inch thick layer of dry surface
crust. Underneath was very wet mud. As soon as we touched down, the
wheels bogged in and we went over the nose, coming to rest upside down.
Fortunately, nobody was hurt. We clambered out into knee-deep of the
wettest, gooiest mud I've ever seen. We hiked out to safety, found a
nearby ranch, and we were able to sleep in my own beds that night. But
my Mark-III would remain upside-down in the mud until I could rescue
her.
I realized there was no way to go back out in the mud by foot to
retrieve the plane. The ONLY way to get it out would be a helicopter.
So, two days later, I hired a Bell Jet Ranger to extract my Kolb from
the mud and deposit it on the shore where I could access it. Within an
hour of the helicopter rescue, my Mark-III was back on its trailer and
we headed home.
I discovered that the oil cap had come off and gone thru the prop.
Evidently, during my preflight when I checked my oil level, I had not
secured the oil cap all the way to the detent that locks it in place.
During the flight, it worked its way loose and came off. This was
verified because the oil tank had no cap when I recovered the plane, and
there was a fair-sized chunk missing from the leading edge of one of my
prop blades.
Could I have made it back to my home airport with the vibrating prop?
Maybe, but I did not want to take that chance. I chose what looked like
the best landing site available to me at the time, and that turned out
to be a bad choice. Believe me, if I knew it was wet underneath the dry
crust on that surface, I'd have landed elsewhere!
The good news is (besides we are OK), damage to my plane is minimal. In
fact, the majority of damage was due to the helicopter rescue, not the
landing itself. I need to rebuild the rudder, the gap seal, and get a
new prop. I'll also need to replace all the instruments, as they got
soaked in the wet mud during those 48 hours upside down. Luckily, my
912 engine remained just above the mud surface and was not immersed.
And so begin the repair efforts. I'll keep you all posted on my
progress.
And here is the lesson to take with you: Always double-check that
EVERYTHING IS SECURE in your engine area when doing your preflight. You
don't want stuff going through your propeller. Could ruin you day, as
it did mine!
Regards -
Dennis Kirby
Mark-III, 912ul, 85 hrs TT, in
Cedar Crest, New Mexico
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I have some questions for the list.
I have a Firefly that is a fat ultralight.
How hard would you think it would be to sell after January 31, with no
airthworthiness certification or N-number?
This is the last date to do this.
Would the Firefly be worth more with the airworthiness certification and
N-numbered?
If I am going to do this it will cost me $600. for a DAR.
Thanks.
Jimmy Hankinson
912-863-7384
Firefly #035,
JYL (Sylvania)
Pegasus Field (Home)
2000 Feet X 100 Feet- Grass
Rocky Ford, Georgia
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I had a great weekend with my Firestar. I hooked up with some friends and we flew
across the Cascade Mountains to the Oregon coast. I was accompanied by a
quicksilver, a thundergull, a 1941 Aeronca Defender, a 912 powered Mark III and
a titan tornado.
We camped on the airport at Powers, Oregon, a small lumber town. Saturday night
there was a great firewoks show over the log pond. The shells were breaking
directly in front and above us. You could smell the smoke and see the guys lighting
the fuses; we were that close. The log pond is up against the canyon
wall and the echo of the shells exploding was spectacular.
We did lots of low level flying along the Umpqua River and along the beach. Keith
Anderson talked me into soloing his Mark III, a first for me. I took it up
and did approach and departure stalls, steep turns, slow flight, and played
with different flap settings in glide before attempting to land. I greased the
landing and decided to quit while I was ahead. The flaps on the Mark III are
quite effective.
I'll attach some pictures and a link to a short video of flying the beach.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oGFNy4x2-V0
--------
Roger in Oregon
1992 KXP 503
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| Subject: | Re: Kolb Firefly |
Get it registered and inspected.
You can spend the price of a DAR or have a pile of unregistered airplane.
As for the January 31, 2008, check what was released by the FAA:
*****
06/28/07 - FAA SETS DEADLINES FOR E-LSA CONVERSION PROCESS
Individuals converting aircraft into an experimental light-sport aircraft (E-LSA)
have until January 31, 2008, to complete the E-LSA registration, the E-LSA
airworthiness inspection, and the E-LSA certification process. The FAA will guarantee
that your registration and certification packet will be reviewed and your
E-LSA aircraft inspected in sufficient time to meet the January 2008 deadline
if applicants meet the following three deadlines.
By August 15, 2007, you submit your aircraft registration (N-number) request to
the Aircraft Registration office, and;
By October 1, 2007, you call your local E-LSA DAR to schedule your E-LSA airworthiness
inspection, and;
By November 30, 2007, you submit your aircraft airworthiness certification request
packet to either an FAA FSDO, an FAA MIDO, or your local.E-LSA DAR Ask your
local E-LSA DAR which office should receive this packet.
If you fail to complete the above steps, the FAA cannot guarantee they'll be able
to complete your E-LSA registration and certification inspection process prior
to the January 31, 2008, deadline.
******
You might find someone away from the FAA system to buy it and fly it as an illegal
ultralight, but by going thru the process you enlarge your potential buyer
market.
--------
John Williamson
Arlington, TX
Kolbra, 912ULS
http://home.tx.rr.com/kolbrapilot
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| Subject: | Re: Kolb Firefly |
John,
Why is there a deadline and what is the (if any) to regitering e-lsa over amature
built experimental?
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Paul Petty
Kolbra #12
Ms Dixie
912 UL 70" warp
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| Subject: | Re: Kolb Firefly |
sorry should have read "what is the advantage"
do not archive
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Paul Petty
Kolbra #12
Ms Dixie
912 UL 70" warp
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| Subject: | Re: Kolb Firefly |
For me, the reason to go with a Firefly is because you want a part 103
ultralight. I think more folks would be interested in a 103 UL than a
E-LSA. On the other hand, E-LSA allows you to log time in a "real
airplane" to apply for more advanced ratings. Bottom line: I think it
will have good/similar resale either way.
Nobody knows for sure, but if you have a FF with 447 and 5-gal tank, I
doubt the FAA will bother you. Worse case is you may have to remove
brakes and instruments (or add a BRS) to make it FAR 103 legal.
How hard would you think it would be to sell [Firefly] after January 31,
with no airthworthiness certification or N-number?
Would the Firefly be worth more with the airworthiness certification and
N-numbered?
Thanks.
Jimmy
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| Subject: | Re: Flight report |
Wow, what a beautiful trip! Did you feel nervous flying over the Cascades in
your Firestar? How was the Quicksilver able to keep up?
Thanks for sharing your adventure.
--------
Jim
N. Idaho
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| Subject: | "Magic Bike"gets Damaged |
Dennis,
Very sorry to hear of your misfortunate accident but very glad you and your
son was able to walk away from it. It is so easy for things to go wrong in
this sport and you can never be too cautious in doing a preflight. Something
like what happened to you could easily happen to most of us.
Count you blessings that no one was hurt and damage to your plane was
minimal.
Do not archive
Later,
John
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Kirby Dennis
Contr MDA/AL
Sent: Monday, July 02, 2007 10:17 AM
Subject: Kolb-List: "Magic Bike"gets Damaged
<Dennis.Kirby@kirtland.af.mil>
Dear Kolb Friends -
It is with a heavy heart that I share this story with you. But if what
I pass on can save any of you from repeating my mistake, then it is
worth the telling.
Last week, I experienced an off-airport landing in my Mark-III. It was
a beautiful Sunday morning, and I was flying with my 13-year-old son,
Michael. We were about 30 miles from our home airport, when I suddenly
heard a loud bang, followed by some significant vibration in the engine.
I knew that something bigger than a bolt or muffler spring had gone thru
the prop.
We were over some salt flats in this part of central New Mexico, so I
elected to do a precautionary landing on the dry lake bed below us. It
turns out that the lake bed was far from dry. What looked like dry,
solid ground was in fact merely a half-inch thick layer of dry surface
crust. Underneath was very wet mud. As soon as we touched down, the
wheels bogged in and we went over the nose, coming to rest upside down.
Fortunately, nobody was hurt. We clambered out into knee-deep of the
wettest, gooiest mud I've ever seen. We hiked out to safety, found a
nearby ranch, and we were able to sleep in my own beds that night. But
my Mark-III would remain upside-down in the mud until I could rescue
her.
I realized there was no way to go back out in the mud by foot to
retrieve the plane. The ONLY way to get it out would be a helicopter.
So, two days later, I hired a Bell Jet Ranger to extract my Kolb from
the mud and deposit it on the shore where I could access it. Within an
hour of the helicopter rescue, my Mark-III was back on its trailer and
we headed home.
I discovered that the oil cap had come off and gone thru the prop.
Evidently, during my preflight when I checked my oil level, I had not
secured the oil cap all the way to the detent that locks it in place.
During the flight, it worked its way loose and came off. This was
verified because the oil tank had no cap when I recovered the plane, and
there was a fair-sized chunk missing from the leading edge of one of my
prop blades.
Could I have made it back to my home airport with the vibrating prop?
Maybe, but I did not want to take that chance. I chose what looked like
the best landing site available to me at the time, and that turned out
to be a bad choice. Believe me, if I knew it was wet underneath the dry
crust on that surface, I'd have landed elsewhere!
The good news is (besides we are OK), damage to my plane is minimal. In
fact, the majority of damage was due to the helicopter rescue, not the
landing itself. I need to rebuild the rudder, the gap seal, and get a
new prop. I'll also need to replace all the instruments, as they got
soaked in the wet mud during those 48 hours upside down. Luckily, my
912 engine remained just above the mud surface and was not immersed.
And so begin the repair efforts. I'll keep you all posted on my
progress.
And here is the lesson to take with you: Always double-check that
EVERYTHING IS SECURE in your engine area when doing your preflight. You
don't want stuff going through your propeller. Could ruin you day, as
it did mine!
Regards -
Dennis Kirby
Mark-III, 912ul, 85 hrs TT, in
Cedar Crest, New Mexico
12:19 PM
12:19 PM
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| Subject: | Re: "Magic Bike"gets Damaged |
I'll 2nd that. What rotten luck, eh ?? I would've thought the lakes were
plenty solid by now. I'm glad you and your son are OK, and that your plane
wasn't too badly damaged. Good Luck. Lar.
Do not Archive.
On 7/2/07, John Cooley <jcooley380@hughes.net> wrote:
>
>
> Dennis,
> Very sorry to hear of your misfortunate accident but very glad you and
> your
> son was able to walk away from it. It is so easy for things to go wrong in
> this sport and you can never be too cautious in doing a preflight.
> Something
> like what happened to you could easily happen to most of us.
> Count you blessings that no one was hurt and damage to your plane was
> minimal.
>
> Do not archive
>
> Later,
> John
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Kirby Dennis
> Contr MDA/AL
> Sent: Monday, July 02, 2007 10:17 AM
> To: kolb-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Kolb-List: "Magic Bike"gets Damaged
>
> <Dennis.Kirby@kirtland.af.mil>
>
>
> Dear Kolb Friends -
>
> It is with a heavy heart that I share this story with you. But if what
> I pass on can save any of you from repeating my mistake, then it is
> worth the telling.
>
> Last week, I experienced an off-airport landing in my Mark-III. It was
> a beautiful Sunday morning, and I was flying with my 13-year-old son,
> Michael. We were about 30 miles from our home airport, when I suddenly
> heard a loud bang, followed by some significant vibration in the engine.
> I knew that something bigger than a bolt or muffler spring had gone thru
> the prop.
>
> We were over some salt flats in this part of central New Mexico, so I
> elected to do a precautionary landing on the dry lake bed below us. It
> turns out that the lake bed was far from dry. What looked like dry,
> solid ground was in fact merely a half-inch thick layer of dry surface
> crust. Underneath was very wet mud. As soon as we touched down, the
> wheels bogged in and we went over the nose, coming to rest upside down.
>
>
> Fortunately, nobody was hurt. We clambered out into knee-deep of the
> wettest, gooiest mud I've ever seen. We hiked out to safety, found a
> nearby ranch, and we were able to sleep in my own beds that night. But
> my Mark-III would remain upside-down in the mud until I could rescue
> her.
>
> I realized there was no way to go back out in the mud by foot to
> retrieve the plane. The ONLY way to get it out would be a helicopter.
> So, two days later, I hired a Bell Jet Ranger to extract my Kolb from
> the mud and deposit it on the shore where I could access it. Within an
> hour of the helicopter rescue, my Mark-III was back on its trailer and
> we headed home.
>
> I discovered that the oil cap had come off and gone thru the prop.
> Evidently, during my preflight when I checked my oil level, I had not
> secured the oil cap all the way to the detent that locks it in place.
> During the flight, it worked its way loose and came off. This was
> verified because the oil tank had no cap when I recovered the plane, and
> there was a fair-sized chunk missing from the leading edge of one of my
> prop blades.
>
> Could I have made it back to my home airport with the vibrating prop?
> Maybe, but I did not want to take that chance. I chose what looked like
> the best landing site available to me at the time, and that turned out
> to be a bad choice. Believe me, if I knew it was wet underneath the dry
> crust on that surface, I'd have landed elsewhere!
>
> The good news is (besides we are OK), damage to my plane is minimal. In
> fact, the majority of damage was due to the helicopter rescue, not the
> landing itself. I need to rebuild the rudder, the gap seal, and get a
> new prop. I'll also need to replace all the instruments, as they got
> soaked in the wet mud during those 48 hours upside down. Luckily, my
> 912 engine remained just above the mud surface and was not immersed.
>
> And so begin the repair efforts. I'll keep you all posted on my
> progress.
>
> And here is the lesson to take with you: Always double-check that
> EVERYTHING IS SECURE in your engine area when doing your preflight. You
> don't want stuff going through your propeller. Could ruin you day, as
> it did mine!
>
> Regards -
> Dennis Kirby
> Mark-III, 912ul, 85 hrs TT, in
> Cedar Crest, New Mexico
>
>
> 12:19 PM
>
>
> 12:19 PM
>
>
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| Subject: | "Magic Bike"gets Damaged |
can u tell us about this? what was hrly rate? how did they do it, any pix?
jg
The ONLY way to get it out would be a helicopter.
>So, two days later, I hired a Bell Jet Ranger to extract my Kolb from
>the mud and deposit it on the shore where I could access it.
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Paul, if you don't mind me stepping in here.
The advantages of E-LSA are:
You use form 8050-88A "Affidavit of Ownership". It allows you to say, you
don't have any receipts for the aircraft and can't get copies. You get it
notarized and send it in and everybody is happy. This form expires Jan 31
2008.
E-AB will require receipts for the kit, or the parts and pieces as stated on
form 8050-88.
No builders log is required for E-LSA like it is for E-AB.
If requested, your E-LSA Operating Limitations can allow you to teach or use
your aircraft for hire until Jan 31, 2010. Rental of and training in an E-AB
is prohibited.
Subsequent owners of an E-LSA can take a 16 hour course for a Repairman
Inspector certificate and perform the annual conditional inspection on the
E-LSA they own. Only the builder of an E-AB can get a repairman certificate
for that aircraft and it is not transferable. The subsequent owners of an
E-AB must have the conditional inspection done by an A & P (no IA required,
though).
Well, there's four reasons just off the top of my head without getting into
the "going bandido" arguments.
Rick
On 7/2/07, Paul Petty <paulpetty@myway.com> wrote:
>
>
> John,
>
> Why is there a deadline and what is the (if any) to regitering e-lsa over
> amature built experimental?
>
> --------
> Paul Petty
> Kolbra #12
> Ms Dixie
> 912 UL 70" warp
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=121805#121805
>
>
--
Rick Girard
"Ya'll drop on in"
takes on a whole new meaning
when you live at the airport.
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Jim:
I always spend a little extra time on my preflight before crossing the mountains.
By the way I should have said the Oregon Coast Range, the Cascades are the
other direction from home (oops). I also try to stay within gliding distance
of a survivable landing spot which put me at 6500' on this trip. I throttled
way back and did a lot of circling to stay back with the quicksilver. Here are
a few more pictures, this time downsized for the guys with dial-up connections.
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1992 KXP 503
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| Subject: | Noise canceling earbuds |
Last week I decided to try something different to quiet the in-flight
noise, and bought some noise canceling earbuds off ebay. The unit is a
Philips HN060, and it has an active noise reduction circuit. It is
designed for people on airliners, mowing lawns, riding your motorcycle,
etc, and since I found some on ebay for $20 with free shipping, decided
to give them a try. They arrived a little while ago, and initial
impressions are excellent. Stuck the earbuds in, turned on the ANR
circuit, and cranked up the riding lawn mower. They cut the noise level
in half, so turned it off, and cranked up the Kawasaki 650 and stood
behind the muffler. Cut the noise level about 60 percent.
Went over to the airplane, put on the ancient Flightcom El Cheapos and
tuned in the local ATIS. With the earbuds in place in the ear canal, and
the headsets over the ears, the ATIS came through loud and clear. Went
back and ran the motorcycle and the riding lawn mower again, and the
Flightcoms over the earbuds helped further reduce the noise to a very
quiet level. Planning to go flying tomorrow morning, and if things work
as well then as they did a bit ago, ANR might be more inexpensive than
any of us thought. There is a pot full of the Philips HN060 earphones on
ebay, and most of them are under $30 with shipping.
Plus, I can still use them riding the motorcycle, or mowing the
airstrip. Such a deal...
Will give an inflight review tomorrow around lunchtime, Lord willing.
Richard Pike
MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
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| Subject: | Re: Noise canceling earbuds |
Richard
Walmart sells three varieties of noise cancelling ear phones.. 30 to 50
bucks as I recall.. Best way to do it, imho, is to take the guts out and
put them in a set of regular flight headphones.. Been thinking about
that idea since I noticed them at Wally World.. My years of electronic
experience tells me that the most expensive parts in the "higest
retail" aviation head set is the molded plastic or the ear muffs...:-)
Herb
On Mon, 2 Jul 2007 19:17:39 -0400 "Richard Pike" <richard@bcchapel.org>
writes:
Last week I decided to try something different to quiet the in-flight
noise, and bought some noise canceling earbuds off ebay. The unit is a
Philips HN060, and it has an active noise reduction circuit. It is
designed for people on airliners, mowing lawns, riding your motorcycle,
etc, and since I found some on ebay for $20 with free shipping, decided
to give them a try. They arrived a little while ago, and initial
impressions are excellent. Stuck the earbuds in, turned on the ANR
circuit, and cranked up the riding lawn mower. They cut the noise level
in half, so turned it off, and cranked up the Kawasaki 650 and stood
behind the muffler. Cut the noise level about 60 percent.
Went over to the airplane, put on the ancient Flightcom El Cheapos and
tuned in the local ATIS. With the earbuds in place in the ear canal, and
the headsets over the ears, the ATIS came through loud and clear. Went
back and ran the motorcycle and the riding lawn mower again, and the
Flightcoms over the earbuds helped further reduce the noise to a very
quiet level. Planning to go flying tomorrow morning, and if things work
as well then as they did a bit ago, ANR might be more inexpensive than
any of us thought. There is a pot full of the Philips HN060 earphones on
ebay, and most of them are under $30 with shipping.
Plus, I can still use them riding the motorcycle, or mowing the airstrip.
Such a deal...
Will give an inflight review tomorrow around lunchtime, Lord willing.
Richard Pike
MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
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| Subject: | Re: "Magic Bike"gets Damaged |
> <Dennis.Kirby@kirtland.af.mil>
>
Dennis,
Very sorry that you had to go through that experience. Having been there,
I know full well the pain that comes with it. On the way back from MV I went
down on the salt flats to land, and lucky for me I was very cautious and had
the big tires on the Firestar, or I might have had the same problem. It got
pretty soft, but I had enough power to get it out, but it was close.
Larry C
do not archive
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| Subject: | Re: Noise canceling earbuds |
I thought about that - but after I put the guts into the Flightcoms, how
do I get the Flightcoms to fit under my motorcycle helmet? (Not to
mention the extreme liklihood of my breaking the ANR stuff in the
process?) (Easy for you - difficult for me)
Let me try the KISS principle first - update tomorrow.
Richard Pike
MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
----- Original Message -----
From: herbgh@juno.com
To: kolb-list@matronics.com
Sent: Monday, July 02, 2007 7:52 PM
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Noise canceling earbuds
Richard
Walmart sells three varieties of noise cancelling ear phones.. 30 to
50 bucks as I recall.. Best way to do it, imho, is to take the guts out
and put them in a set of regular flight headphones.. Been thinking
about that idea since I noticed them at Wally World.. My years of
electronic experience tells me that the most expensive parts in the
"higest retail" aviation head set is the molded plastic or the ear
muffs...:-) Herb
On Mon, 2 Jul 2007 19:17:39 -0400 "Richard Pike"
<richard@bcchapel.org> writes:
Last week I decided to try something different to quiet the
in-flight noise, and bought some noise canceling earbuds off ebay. The
unit is a Philips HN060, and it has an active noise reduction circuit.
It is designed for people on airliners, mowing lawns, riding your
motorcycle, etc, and since I found some on ebay for $20 with free
shipping, decided to give them a try. They arrived a little while ago,
and initial impressions are excellent. Stuck the earbuds in, turned on
the ANR circuit, and cranked up the riding lawn mower. They cut the
noise level in half, so turned it off, and cranked up the Kawasaki 650
and stood behind the muffler. Cut the noise level about 60 percent.
Went over to the airplane, put on the ancient Flightcom El Cheapos
and tuned in the local ATIS. With the earbuds in place in the ear canal,
and the headsets over the ears, the ATIS came through loud and clear.
Went back and ran the motorcycle and the riding lawn mower again, and
the Flightcoms over the earbuds helped further reduce the noise to a
very quiet level. Planning to go flying tomorrow morning, and if things
work as well then as they did a bit ago, ANR might be more inexpensive
than any of us thought. There is a pot full of the Philips HN060
earphones on ebay, and most of them are under $30 with shipping.
Plus, I can still use them riding the motorcycle, or mowing the
airstrip. Such a deal...
Will give an inflight review tomorrow around lunchtime, Lord
willing.
Richard Pike
MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kolb-List
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| Subject: | Helmet choice - with David Clark headphone |
I need to wear a helmet while flying out of a Ultralight park here in Boulder City,
NV. Any recommendations as to a comfortable helmet that I can wear with my
David Clark Headphones?
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| Subject: | Re: Flight report |
Great story and great pics, Roger. thanks for sharing
them.
I hope you're going to fly the coast, with Powers as
our camp, with us again this Labor Day weekend as you
did last year - or will Dayna be too close to her
delivery date?
Larry Cottrell - you need to join us at the coast this
year!
Arty Trost
Sandy, Oregon
--- "R. Hankins" <rphanks@grantspass.com> wrote:
> <rphanks@grantspass.com>
>
> I had a great weekend with my Firestar. I hooked up
> with some friends and we flew across the Cascade
> Mountains to the Oregon coast. I was accompanied by
> a quicksilver, a thundergull, a 1941 Aeronca
> Defender, a 912 powered Mark III and a titan
> tornado.
> We camped on the airport at Powers, Oregon, a small
> lumber town. Saturday night there was a great
> firewoks show over the log pond. The shells were
> breaking directly in front and above us. You could
> smell the smoke and see the guys lighting the fuses;
> we were that close. The log pond is up against the
> canyon wall and the echo of the shells exploding was
> spectacular.
> We did lots of low level flying along the Umpqua
> River and along the beach. Keith Anderson talked me
> into soloing his Mark III, a first for me. I took
> it up and did approach and departure stalls, steep
> turns, slow flight, and played with different flap
> settings in glide before attempting to land. I
> greased the landing and decided to quit while I was
> ahead. The flaps on the Mark III are quite
> effective.
>
>
> I'll attach some pictures and a link to a short
> video of flying the beach.
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oGFNy4x2-V0
>
> --------
> Roger in Oregon
> 1992 KXP 503
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| Subject: | Re: "Magic Bike"gets Damaged |
Dennis -
How did Michael and your wife handle your upside-down
incident? I hope it didn't turn both of them off to
flying! When you wrote that Michael was with you, my
stomach cramped. It's one thing to have this happen
when you're by yourself or with a friend - but with
your son! Whew! I'm SOOOO glad that you're both o.k.
And thanks for sharing this story - we all think we
try to do good preflights, and yet realize that we can
still overlook something. Do you use a checklist? I
didn't use to - have changed that since my MV flight.
It seems almost overkill, but I hope it keeps me from
overlooking something - or becoming so familiar that I
don't even see it.
Arty
--- Kirby Dennis Contr MDA/AL
<Dennis.Kirby@kirtland.af.mil> wrote:
> MDA/AL" <Dennis.Kirby@kirtland.af.mil>
>
> Dear Kolb Friends -
>
> It is with a heavy heart that I share this story
> with you.
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| Subject: | Re: Noise canceling earbuds |
Richard
Nuttin wrong with your method either...:-) Herb
On Mon, 2 Jul 2007 20:03:02 -0400 "Richard Pike" <richard@bcchapel.org>
writes:
I thought about that - but after I put the guts into the Flightcoms, how
do I get the Flightcoms to fit under my motorcycle helmet? (Not to
mention the extreme liklihood of my breaking the ANR stuff in the
process?) (Easy for you - difficult for me)
Let me try the KISS principle first - update tomorrow.
Richard Pike
MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
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| Subject: | Re: Flight report |
Roger:
You are having entirely too much fun flying.
Pictures are great. Area is beautiful.
Is there anywhere on the beach you could land and RON, or does the tide come all
the way up to the rocks?
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MKIII/912ULS
hauck's holler, alabama
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| Subject: | Re: "Magic Bike"gets Damaged |
Dennis:
Glad you all are ok.
Airplanes are fixable. Still hurts though.
What kind of prop were you flying? What kind of damage to the blades.
Get her fixed. MV 2008 is right around the corner.
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John Hauck
MKIII/912ULS
hauck's holler, alabama
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| Subject: | Re: "Magic Bike"gets Damaged |
Dennis, I know it hurts now even though you are physically ok. I'm happy to hear
that you and your son are ok. The plane can be repaired. Think positive. This
can give you an opportunity to add some additional strength to the wings if
you need it or something else. You can make it even better than before. When you
are ready to fly again, this will be a distant memory.
Ralph B
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Ralph B
Original Firestar
20 years flying it
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| Subject: | Re: Kolb Firefly |
The advantage of registration is that it's not limited to 5-gallons on board. I
registered my Original Firestar with a 5-gallon tank, but I carry another 6 gallons
to go places. The plane is 319 lbs empty. Now I can add more things if
need be not worrying about staying within the structure of Part 103. Another concern
is that some airports may start banning unregistered aircraft from entering
for safety reasons (Sport Pilots are FAA trained and UL pilots may not be).
Your Firefly will be worth more and you will get your $600 back should you sell.
Ralph B
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Original Firestar
20 years flying it
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| Subject: | Re: "Magic Bike"gets Damaged |
Dennis,
So Sorry bout your Kolb! Glad to hear yall are ok. I used to think if
I had a 4-stroke my worries would be over, but the last three incidences that
I know of have involved 4- strokes. Just goes to show you cant be too safe or
too redundant and for Arty, theres no such thing as overkill if it prevents a
disaster! May you have a speedy rebuild!
Ed Diebel FF 62<BR><BR><BR>**************************************<BR>
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| Subject: | Re: Kolb Firefly |
In a message dated 7/2/2007 10:49:38 PM Central Standard Time,
ul15rhb@juno.com writes:
> Another concern is that some airports may start banning unregistered
> aircraft from entering for safety reasons (Sport Pilots are FAA trained and UL
> pilots may not be).
>
> Your Firefly will be worth more and you will get your $600 back should you
> sell.
>
> Ralph B
>
Ralph,
Ive always heard that if an airport recieves any form of assistance from
the gov. in the form of money, they can not disallow any one , who is legal ,
the priviledge of landing there! Is that the case or not???
Ed Diebel FF 62 do not archive<BR><BR><BR>
**************************************<BR> See what's free at http://www.aol.com.
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| Subject: | Re: Kolb Firefly |
Per FAA Order 8700.1 Dated 2/9/1996, Chapter 62:
In short, if they received federal funds they are supposed to permit
Ultralight activity, but they can deny UL if mixing cannot be done safely.
Advisory Circular 150/5190-5 of June 10, 2002 is specifically on
exclusions. I doubt LAX permits ULs, and rightfully so.
7. OPERATION OF ULTRALIGHT VEHICLES
FROM AIRPORTS.
A. Aeronautical Activity. Ultralight vehicle operators
usually require the approval of airport authorities before
conducting operations from an airport. Operation of
ultralight vehicles is considered an aeronautical activity
much the same as parachute jumping.
B. Use of Airports. Federally funded airports must
accommodate ultralight operations if this can be done safely.
This does not mean that airport authorities must allow
ultralights to operate from the runways; rather, the airport
should set aside a special location for ultralight operations.
It is acceptable for airport authorities to establish policies,
including reasonable training requirements, that they believe
are necessary to provide safe accommodations to ultralight
vehicles. If an airports authorities believe it is unsafe to
accommodate ultralights at the facility, they may request
Flight Standards input in the assessment of the safety of
proposed operations.
(1) When assessing the safety of ultralight vehicle
operations from airports, the inspector should bear in mind
the operating characteristics of ultralight vehicles, the lack
of pilot certification standards, and the fact that these vehicles
must yield right-of-way to aircraft under all circumstances.
If the safety of conventional aircraft operations
would be compromised, the inspector should give a negative
finding to the Airports Division. When possible, inspectors
should assist in developing alternative methods to accommodate
ultralight operations.
(2) Nonfederally funded airports are not required to
accommodate ultralight operations. The FAA has no
authority in these situations; however, inspectors should
encourage ultralight operators and airport management to
consider alternative methods.
-----------------------------------------
Ive always heard that if an airport recieves any form of assistance
from the gov. in the form of money, they can not disallow any one , who is
legal, the priviledge of landing there! Is that the case or not???
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| Subject: | Re: Kolb Firefly |
You can carry extra fuel in an ultralight (e.g., in a portable gas can),
you just can't have more than 5 gal tank available to the engine during
flight.
------------------------------------------
The advantage of registration is that it's not limited to 5-gallons on
board. I registered my Original Firestar with a 5-gallon tank, but I carry
another 6 gallons to go places. The plane is 319 lbs empty. Now I can add
more things if need be not worrying about staying within the structure of
Part 103. Another concern is that some airports may start banning
unregistered aircraft from entering for safety reasons (Sport Pilots are
FAA trained and UL pilots may not be).
Your Firefly will be worth more and you will get your $600 back should you
sell.
Ralph B
--------
Ralph B
Original Firestar
20 years flying it
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