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1. 07:44 AM - Re: Overhead Panel (Mike Welch)
2. 08:21 AM - Re: EFIS Units (Jim Dunn)
3. 08:32 AM - Re: arlington any one (jim)
4. 09:05 AM - Re: Re: Overhead Panel (Ed Chmielewski)
5. 10:48 AM - Re: Overhead Panel (JetPilot)
6. 10:52 AM - Re: EFIS Units (JetPilot)
7. 11:15 AM - Re: Re: Overhead Panel (David Key)
8. 12:47 PM - Re: Re: EFIS Units (Mike Welch)
9. 03:12 PM - Re: Overhead Panel (planecrazzzy)
10. 08:16 PM - Re: Re: Overhead Panel (Ed Chmielewski)
11. 08:21 PM - Re: Re: Overhead Panel (Ed Chmielewski)
12. 09:13 PM - Re: EFIS Units (JetPilot)
13. 09:14 PM - Re: EFIS Units (JetPilot)
14. 10:55 PM - Re: Re: EFIS Units (Larry Cottrell)
15. 11:00 PM - Re: Re: EFIS Units (Larry Cottrell)
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| Subject: | RE: Overhead Panel |
Sure, I'd be happy to. My feeling was that the area the above your
head was blocked by the bottom side of the leading edge of the wing, anyway,
so why not make it a place for things you would want fairly close.
Funny thing about that "close" business, tho. Back when I was working on
my Kolb quite a bit, I built this panel back in 2001. Needed glases to see
up close "some". Now, 6 years later, I need glasses to see up
close...period! But, I guess that's okay, tho, because the FAA (pilot's
license) says I need to have reading glasses with me, anyway. (Actually, I
can see, it's just that things are a little blurry.)
Back to the panel; gages are self explanatory, ignition switch, clock
(from Honda Civic) intercom, aircraft swing down/(and then detach if you
want) cockpit light, and switches are for strobes and position lights,
avionics master, electric in-flight adjustable prop, etc.
Oh, and I have a rather cool DOOR mounted throttle lever.
Best to all, Mike in SW Utah
>From: "Al & Beth Nicoson" <anicoson@wi.rr.com>
>To: <mdnanwelch7@hotmail.com>
>Subject: Overhead Panel
>Date: Mon, 9 Jul 2007 07:55:54 -0500
>
>Hi Mike,
>
>Do you have a photo of your design, if so would you please pass it along?
>
>Thanks,
>
>Al
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> Al & Beth Nicoson
> anicoson@wi.rr.com
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I have a Dynon EFIS D100 (with OAT probe) in my Aerocomp Experimental. I
bought it in December 2006. I had some trouble with it and sent it back
to Dynon. They replaced its main board and it's been GREAT since then. I
really like the TAS & wind readout and the HSI/GPS display. It is also
comforting to have 2+ hours of backup battery in case of electrical
failure. I am looking forward to the improvements with the [free] new
firmware due out any day. Definitely get the brighter screen option
($200).
Ground calibration of the magnetic flux detector is critical to accurate
heading and wind info (this is easily done). But it's great never having
to synch a DG. It is interfaced to my Garmin GPSmap 196 portable with a
single wire.
Jim
N. Idaho
Hey Group,
Are there any of you flying with any of the EFIS units? I have two
Dynon D10A units. One will be installed in my Kolb MkIII, and the other
will be as a back-up to my Blue Mountain Avionics EFISOne in my GlaStar.
Up to this point my only experience is playing with them on the kitchen
table. They sure do look cool, and show virtually instanteous response to
movement.
For the Kolb, I'm going to have the Dynon D10A EFIS, built-in Garmin
296
GPS, Icom A200 NavCom, and King transponder. For my engine "steam gages",
they are in an overhead panel, you just look up to see them. (overhead
panel includes gages, ignition switch, clock, intercom and light, and
switches to various things)
I was curious about anyone else's experience with any EFIS units,
'cause
you don't seem to hear much from this group on any of the avionics in
their
planes.
Mike in SW Utah
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| Subject: | Re: arlington any one |
I'll be at Arlington next Sat & Sunday, but I'll be in my Aerocomp experimental,
not my Firefly.
Jim
N. Idaho
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| Subject: | Re: RE: Overhead Panel |
Mike/All,
In the future, please post pics via the matronics website and
guidelines.
It won't slow the e-mail down for those of us on dial-up.
Thanx!
Ed in JXN
MkII/503
----- Original Message -----
From: "Mike Welch" <mdnanwelch7@hotmail.com>
Sent: Monday, July 09, 2007 10:43 AM
Subject: Kolb-List: RE: Overhead Panel
> Sure, I'd be happy to. My feeling was that the area the above your
> head was blocked by the bottom side of the leading edge of the wing,
> anyway,
> so why not make it a place for things you would want fairly close.
>
(Snip)
> Oh, and I have a rather cool DOOR mounted throttle lever.
>
> Best to all, Mike in SW Utah
>
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| Subject: | Re: Overhead Panel |
The overhead panel is a great idea !!! I have been running out of room also on
my pedistol, and dont want anything bigger that would block my view out the front.
An overhead is the answer if I ever want to add anything more.
Mike
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"NO FEAR" - If you have no fear you did not go as fast as you could
have !!!
Kolb MK-III Xtra, 912-S
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mdnanwelch7(at)hotmail.co wrote:
>
>
> For the Kolb, I'm going to have the Dynon D10A EFIS, built-in Garmin 296
> GPS, Icom A200 NavCom, and King transponder. For my engine "steam gages",
> they are in an overhead panel, you just look up to see them. (overhead
> panel includes gages, ignition switch, clock, intercom and light, and
> switches to various things)
>
>
> Mike in SW Utah
>
> _________________________________________________________________
> http://newlivehotmail.com
That sounds like a nice setup, just about all the stuff I would want :) With
all that modern avionics, why are you still using steam guages ??? The EIS
unit is GREAT for engine monitoring. Its more accurate and you dont have to stare
at it while flying, the flashing red light with something goes out of limits
is better than constantly having to monitor guages.
Mike
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"NO FEAR" - If you have no fear you did not go as fast as you could
have !!!
Kolb MK-III Xtra, 912-S
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| Subject: | Re: Overhead Panel |
I liked this one so much I bought it.
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Hi Mike/All Others,
I agree with you re: the steam gages idea. I would be better off with an
EIS electronic system, but as I said, I started the Kolb back in 2000/2001
and didn't even consider the electronic route, plus I didn't have very much
money back then. No real intentions of changing at this point.
I got myself in a situation where I couldn't work on the plane for a few
years. Then, a year or two ago I made a ton of money, and invested a
small fortune in my GlaStar ($90,000 or so). Kolb was still on the back
burner. GlaStar moved to the head of the line. Then, another direction
change has now caused me to want to sell my Cessna 172, and focus back on
the Kolb. Plus, wife says three planes is too many.
In the last few days I have virtually finished building my shop and pool
in my backyard. I have been "stealing" time here and there, and working on
the Kolb. Actually, before I began working on the Kolb, I had to repair the
rudder on the GlaStar!!! During my move to SW Utah in December, my glass
top picnic table blew off my truck on the highway, flew up in the air and
wiped out the top of the rudder as it then exploded into a trillion pieces
on the highway. Out of a sense of remorse, I felt the need to repair the
rudder before I did anything else, either on the GlaStar OR Kolb.
Repaired the rudder! Damn nice job, if I say so myself. Then onto Kolb.
I'm having to pay the price for not keeping the Kolb inside all the time.
( mostly kept covered under tarp)
My Kolb MkIII was at the point where all I needed to do was cover the
tail feathers, and wings.
Practically ALL else was finished. Motor/prop was running. Instruments
mounted (almost all of them). Pretty much fabric and paint was all that's
left to do. Now I have to back waaaay!! up. It'll take me 3 months just
to get back to square one.
But the REALLY GOOD part is: I have began working on the Kolb again.
And in my book, that's always a good thing!! And this time I plan on
doing it like they rebuilt Steve Austin in "The SiX Million Dollar Man".
"We can build it BETTER! STRONGER! FASTER!
Best regards, Mike in SW Utah
PS. I do have the EIS for my GlaStar. I have a Electronics International
MVP 50. $5000 unit. Can't afford to spend money like that on ALL the
planes!!
>From: "JetPilot" <orcabonita@hotmail.com>
>To: kolb-list@matronics.com
>Subject: Kolb-List: Re: EFIS Units
>Date: Mon, 9 Jul 2007 10:51:49 -0700
>
>
>
>mdnanwelch7(at)hotmail.co wrote:
> >
> >
> > For the Kolb, I'm going to have the Dynon D10A EFIS, built-in Garmin 296
> > GPS, Icom A200 NavCom, and King transponder. For my engine "steam
>gages",
> > they are in an overhead panel, you just look up to see them. (overhead
> > panel includes gages, ignition switch, clock, intercom and light, and
> > switches to various things)
> >
> >
> > Mike in SW Utah
> >
> > _________________________________________________________________
> > http://newlivehotmail.com
>
>
>That sounds like a nice setup, just about all the stuff I would want :)
>With all that modern avionics, why are you still using steam guages ???
>The EIS unit is GREAT for engine monitoring. Its more accurate and you
>dont have to stare at it while flying, the flashing red light with
>something goes out of limits is better than constantly having to monitor
>guages.
>
>Mike
>
>--------
>"NO FEAR" - If you have no fear you did not go as fast as you
>could have !!!
>
>Kolb MK-III Xtra, 912-S
>
>
>Read this topic online here:
>
>http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=122891#122891
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Overhead Panel |
I'm on Dial-up.....(FREE)
I didn't see any problem with his pictures.....
They were only 48 to 52 kb......Those aren't big at all ....
Nice job , good craftsmanship.....now let's see the "back side"
Gotta Fly...
Mike & "Jaz" in MN
PS BAD NEWS....my Encoder (NEW) is bad....and I've already had it a couple of years
without using it.....I'm writing the company now(begging)
.
.
.
Ed in JXN wrote:
> Mike/All,
>
> In the future, please post pics via the matronics website and
> guidelines.
>
> It won't slow the e-mail down for those of us on dial-up.
>
> Thanx!
>
> Ed in JXN
> MkII/503
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Overhead Panel |
David,
Please post a LINK to pics, so those who are interested can click
and view, and those who aren't (esp. those of us on dial-up) aren't
hamstrung waiting for a few minutes for pics we don't need/want.
Thanks,
Ed in JXN
----- Original Message -----
From: "David Key" <dhkey@msn.com>
Sent: Monday, July 09, 2007 2:13 PM
Subject: RE: Kolb-List: Re: Overhead Panel
>I liked this one so much I bought it.
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Overhead Panel |
Hi Mike,
Not all of us share your sentiments, and things go MUCH faster here
when pics aren't posted to the e-mail.
Don't know why, but this list is the only place I run into this.
Other lists/my buds all seem to send links, and I can pick & choose which
ones I'd like to view (which is the minority).
Ed in JXN
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----- Original Message -----
From: "planecrazzzy" <planecrazzzy@yahoo.com>
Sent: Monday, July 09, 2007 6:11 PM
Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Overhead Panel
>
> I'm on Dial-up.....(FREE)
>
> I didn't see any problem with his pictures.....
>
> They were only 48 to 52 kb......Those aren't big at all ....
>
> Nice job , good craftsmanship.....now let's see the "back side"
>
>
> Gotta Fly...
> Mike & "Jaz" in MN
>
(Snip)
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You can get the EIS for like 700 bucks, I forget the exact price, but its not much.
Probably slightly more then the steam guages it replaces. You can see mine
in the picture of my MKIII panel attached to this post. This thing is really
great. With my luck, I would not be looking at the guages the minute the
oil pressure went down, or when the EGT's started to go up. With a bright red
flashing light in your face, you know when something goes wrong right away.
Mike
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have !!!
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Here is the picture of my panel......
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have !!!
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>
> You can get the EIS for like 700 bucks, I forget the exact price, but its
> not much. Probably slightly more then the steam guages it replaces.
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You can get the EIS, with the remote wiring for around $400 bucks if you buy
it direct from the factory. The gal that answers the phone knows more about
the thing than any one I have ever talked to.
Larry C
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Grand Rapids Technologies, Inc.
3133 Madison ave
Wyoming, MI 49548
616 245-7700
FAX 616 245-7707
email : sales@grtavionics.com
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----- Original Message -----
From: "JetPilot" <orcabonita@hotmail.com>
Sent: Monday, July 09, 2007 10:12 PM
Subject: Kolb-List: Re: EFIS Units
>
> You can get the EIS for like 700 bucks, I forget the exact price, but its
> not much.
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I may have made a mistake. That price range is what I paid for a 2 stroke
model. One for the four stroke is of course more and Jet Pilot may be right
on the price. I am sure that I saved around $100 bucks and got the remote by
buying it direct.
Larry C
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