Kolb-List Digest Archive

Mon 08/06/07


Total Messages Posted: 20



Today's Message Index:
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     1. 04:39 AM - help (pat ladd)
     2. 04:57 AM - Re: Mk ll maxumum weight (Jim Kmet)
     3. 06:20 AM - Re: help (John Hauck)
     4. 06:32 AM - Re: help (Richard Pike)
     5. 06:40 AM - Silent Cayuna, Ultrastar (DANIEL WALTER)
     6. 06:46 AM - Re: Silent Cayuna, Ultrastar (Richard Pike)
     7. 07:08 AM - Re: Silent Cayuna, Ultrastar (Denny Rowe)
     8. 09:28 AM - Re: Silent Cayuna, Ultrastar (herbgh@juno.com)
     9. 09:35 AM - Re: Herding geese and cats (JetPilot)
    10. 09:58 AM - Re: Silent Cayuna, Ultrastar (Ralph B)
    11. 10:50 AM - Re: Rotax 912 installation on a Mark III  (Kirby Dennis Contr MDA/AL)
    12. 11:54 AM - Aircraft Spruce (Ron)
    13. 03:02 PM - Re: help (Larry Bourne)
    14. 03:59 PM - Re: help (Larry Cottrell)
    15. 04:56 PM - Proper Rudder Cable Route (Mike Welch)
    16. 07:09 PM - Re: help (ElleryWeld@aol.com)
    17. 07:12 PM - Re: Mk ll maxumum weight (Malcolmbru@aol.com)
    18. 08:18 PM - 503 rotax engine problem report. (Jim Swan) (Arksey@aol.com)
    19. 09:23 PM - Hirth 2703 Update (Richard Girard)
    20. 09:25 PM - Re: Aircraft Spruce (Mike Welch)
 
 
 


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    Time: 04:39:04 AM PST US
    From: "pat ladd" <pj.ladd@btinternet.com>
    Subject: help
    Hi all, now that I am finally within spittin` distance of getting my Xtra back in the air I want to fit an external arial to the Icom A22 which I bought from John Hauk a couple of years ago. Any pointers where it should be fitted or any helpful pointers?. I presume that well away from the engine is a good idea so I am considering somewhere under the cockpit cage. Between the u/c legs for instance. Ideas anyone?. Pat


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    Time: 04:57:20 AM PST US
    From: "Jim Kmet" <jlsk1@frontiernet.net>
    Subject: Re: Mk ll maxumum weight
    Mike, big bro doesn`t care what you raise it to.Claim 1500 if you want, but during your 5 hour phase one flight testing, (after you get your airworthiness cert), you will put in the A/C log books, the limits at which you flew it & then you will sign off on it, for instance, if you list VNE at 100, then only flew it to 90, that basically what you are saying it has been tested to & then, you , or the next owners, legally can`t fly it beyond 90.Same with weight, test it to only 900 lbs gross, & thats the new limit. Thats the way my DAR explained it to me anyhow. Jim ----- Original Message ----- From: "ropermike" <ropermike2002@yahoo.com> Sent: Sunday, August 05, 2007 9:43 PM Subject: Kolb-List: Mk ll maxumum weight > > I have succumbed to big brother and decided that I will register my Mk ll > as E-LSA so I can go check my cows without breaking any laws or being > illegal. I am pleasantly suprised that the process will be fairly simple > it seems... ....I have my EAA pack and will be sending my paperwork in, in > an a day or two. The max weight for the Mkll is 750 lbs. (I did not build > the plane but I have the builders manual and weight and balance sheet) I > asked my DAR that I have secured for this adventure if I could raise the > Max weight to 830lbs. He said I could, but it would be a good idea to ask > other Mkll owners if any of them had registered at more than 750lbs and > had flown and determined a higher max weight was safe...I guess my > question is, has anyone else registered their Mkll at more than 750 lbs > max weight and how do the members of this list feel about it?...Thanks in > advance for your help....Mike > > -------- > The next best thing to playing and winning is playing and losing!...Mike > Hillger > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=127654#127654 > > >


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    Time: 06:20:32 AM PST US
    From: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
    Subject: Re: help
    Any pointers where it should be fitted or any helpful pointers?. I presume that well away from the engine is a good idea so I am considering somewhere under the cockpit cage. Between the u/c legs for instance. Ideas anyone?. Pat Pattrick:I put mine under the nose.Photo attached.john hmkIII


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    Time: 06:32:14 AM PST US
    From: "Richard Pike" <richard@bcchapel.org>
    Subject: Re: help
    When I put the antenna on mine, I had the advice of an FAA technician whom I worked with. Simply, as far as possible from other metal objects that protrude from the surface, and with a metal ground plane. So I slid a sheet of thin aluminum to lay between the boom tube and the side tube, on the lower fabric in the aft part of the cage behind the cross tube that goes between the landing gear. The antenna is mounted in the middle of the ground plane, and turns back to parallel the boom. Works quite well. Picture here - http://www.bcchapel.org/pages/0003/pg9.htm Richard Pike MKIII N420P (420ldPoops) ----- Original Message ----- From: pat ladd To: kolb-list@matronics.com Sent: Monday, August 06, 2007 7:38 AM Subject: Kolb-List: help Hi all, now that I am finally within spittin` distance of getting my Xtra back in the air I want to fit an external arial to the Icom A22 which I bought from John Hauk a couple of years ago. Any pointers where it should be fitted or any helpful pointers?. I presume that well away from the engine is a good idea so I am considering somewhere under the cockpit cage. Between the u/c legs for instance. Ideas anyone?. Pat


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    Time: 06:40:30 AM PST US
    From: "DANIEL WALTER" <worrybear@verizon.net>
    Subject: Silent Cayuna, Ultrastar
    As I wrote about three weeks ago, my UL202 went silent with a no problem off field landing. I thought it was time for an update. The preliminary checks showed lack of spark, unfortunately in my quest to make sure everything else was OK I found the rear cylinder to have a fair amount of scuffing. With 177 hours on the top end and no knowledge of total time on the engine I don't think a rebuild is the smart thing to do. My questions are, has anyone out there put a rotax on a Ultrastar? Does anyone have a used engine that would be appropriate? Or anyone have any interest in a Ultrastar without a motor? Flying for the penniless dreamer Is taking it's toll on my mental health. Dan Walter Palmyra, PA. Do not archive


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    Time: 06:46:46 AM PST US
    From: "Richard Pike" <richard@bcchapel.org>
    Subject: Re: Silent Cayuna, Ultrastar
    Try Central Snowmobile. They might be able to get you a fresh Cuyuna. Or maybe these guys - http://www.j-birdengines.com/ Richard Pike MKIII N420P (420ldPoops) ----- Original Message ----- From: DANIEL WALTER To: kolb-list@matronics.com Sent: Monday, August 06, 2007 9:40 AM Subject: Kolb-List: Silent Cayuna, Ultrastar As I wrote about three weeks ago, my UL202 went silent with a no problem off field landing. I thought it was time for an update. The preliminary checks showed lack of spark, unfortunately in my quest to make sure everything else was OK I found the rear cylinder to have a fair amount of scuffing. With 177 hours on the top end and no knowledge of total time on the engine I don't think a rebuild is the smart thing to do. My questions are, has anyone out there put a rotax on a Ultrastar? Does anyone have a used engine that would be appropriate? Or anyone have any interest in a Ultrastar without a motor? Flying for the penniless dreamer Is taking it's toll on my mental health. Dan Walter Palmyra, PA. Do not archive


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    Time: 07:08:05 AM PST US
    From: "Denny Rowe" <rowedenny@windstream.net>
    Subject: Re: Silent Cayuna, Ultrastar
    ----- Original Message ----- From: DANIEL WALTER To: kolb-list@matronics.com Sent: Monday, August 06, 2007 9:40 AM Subject: Kolb-List: Silent Cayuna, Ultrastar As I wrote about three weeks ago, my UL202 went silent with a no problem off field landing. I thought it was time for an update. The preliminary checks showed lack of spark, unfortunately in my quest to make sure everything else was OK I found the rear cylinder to have a fair amount of scuffing. With 177 hours on the top end and no knowledge of total time on the engine I don't think a rebuild is the smart thing to do. My questions are, has anyone out there put a rotax on a Ultrastar? Does anyone have a used engine that would be appropriate? Or anyone have any interest in a Ultrastar without a motor? Flying for the penniless dreamer Is taking it's toll on my mental health. Dan Walter Palmyra, PA. Do not archive Dan,A 377 or 447 rotax would work just fine on your Ultrastar. Ive even seen a beefed up US with a 503 on it but would stick with the smaller engines myself.I beleive I saw a zero timed provision 8 377 on Ebay or Barnstormers recently that was around $1000. That little engine has a grat rep for durability and power.


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    Time: 09:28:05 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Silent Cayuna, Ultrastar
    From: herbgh@juno.com
    Dan I have seen Ultra Stars flown with Subaru EA 71 engines!! Flown smartly, I think a 582 would work!! Herb On Mon, 06 Aug 2007 09:40:52 -0400 "DANIEL WALTER" <worrybear@verizon.net> writes: As I wrote about three weeks ago, my UL202 went silent with a no problem off field landing. I thought it was time for an update. The preliminary checks showed lack of spark, unfortunately in my quest to make sure everything else was OK I found the rear cylinder to have a fair amount of scuffing. With 177 hours on the top end and no knowledge of total time on the engine I don't think a rebuild is the smart thing to do. My questions are, has anyone out there put a rotax on a Ultrastar? Does anyone have a used engine that would be appropriate? Or anyone have any interest in a Ultrastar without a motor? Flying for the penniless dreamer Is taking it's toll on my mental health. Dan Walter Palmyra, PA. Do not archive


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    Time: 09:35:15 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Herding geese and cats
    From: "JetPilot" <orcabonita@hotmail.com>
    Herding Geese and cats sounds like great fun !! I herd birds whenever I get the chance :) I dont get to worried about bird strikes in the Kolb because of the slow speeds involved. If you are flying at 60 MPH, you only have 1/4 the impact energy as you do in a general aviation airplane at 120 MPH. As far as comparing bird strikes to a jet, its not even in the same league, there is no comparison. Hitting a bird at 250 knots in a jet has 20 times the energy as hitting one at 60 MPH in a Kolb, so saying " look at what that bird did to that jet " is just kind of stupid when talking about slow flying Kolbs. Im not saying go out and hit a bird, but I am saying lets keep it real here, there is no comparison. Second thing is, high speeds is what birds have a problem avoiding. Birds are very good at getting out of the way at 60 MPH of a Kolb, they have a much harder time at 120 MPH of general aviation airplanes, and evolution never gave them the instinct of how to get out of the way at 280 MPH jet speeds. I see it and thier reactions all the time. JetttPilot -------- &quot;NO FEAR&quot; - If you have no fear you did not go as fast as you could have !!! Kolb MK-III Xtra, 912-S Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=127762#127762


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    Time: 09:58:37 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Silent Cayuna, Ultrastar
    From: "Ralph B" <ul15rhb@juno.com>
    My questions are, has anyone out there put a rotax on a Ultrastar? Does anyone have a used engine that would be appropriate? Or anyone have any interest in a Ultrastar without a motor? Flying for the penniless dreamer Is taking it's toll on my mental health. Dan Walter Palmyra, PA. I flew an UltraStar once that had a 377 Rotax on it. I didn't look at how he mounted it though. Ralph -------- Ralph B Original Firestar 20 years flying it Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=127771#127771


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    Time: 10:50:46 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Rotax 912 installation on a Mark III
    From: "Kirby Dennis Contr MDA/AL" <Dennis.Kirby@kirtland.af.mil>
    << I would like to see any picture of your installation and any other info you have or things to be aware of when doing the installation. >> Dan - I have an easy-to-decipher electrical wiring diagram for the 912. Much easier to interpret than the one in the Rotax Installation Manual. Lemme know if you are interested ... Dennis Kirby Mark-IIIC, 912ul New Mexico Do not archive


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    Time: 11:54:16 AM PST US
    From: Ron <captainron1@cox.net>
    Subject: Aircraft Spruce
    Folks has anyone besides me having difficulty in getting parts from Aircraft spruce? It seems that practically every order I send them I get a reply that items are on back order. I order usually run of the mill items, this last one was some extra 4130 steel tubes and strips. I like Spruce on account that they are in Corona CA and my orders show up within a couple of days with Ground transport. But I may need to look at other suppliers if they can't deliver. Ron Do not archive


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    Time: 03:02:52 PM PST US
    From: "Larry Bourne" <biglar@gogittum.com>
    Subject: Re: help
    You might also talk to Boyd Young about an internal antenna that doesn't need the metal ground plane. Works very well, and costs next to nothing. Lar. On 8/6/07, Richard Pike <richard@bcchapel.org> wrote: > > When I put the antenna on mine, I had the advice of an FAA technician > whom I worked with. Simply, as far as possible from other metal objects that > protrude from the surface, and with a metal ground plane. So I slid a sheet > of thin aluminum to lay between the boom tube and the side tube, on the > lower fabric in the aft part of the cage behind the cross tube that goes > between the landing gear. The antenna is mounted in the middle of the ground > plane, and turns back to parallel the boom. Works quite well. Picture here - > http://www.bcchapel.org/pages/0003/pg9.htm > > Richard Pike > MKIII N420P (420ldPoops) > > ----- Original Message ----- > *From:* pat ladd <pj.ladd@btinternet.com> > *To:* kolb-list@matronics.com > *Sent:* Monday, August 06, 2007 7:38 AM > *Subject:* Kolb-List: help > > > Hi all, > now that I am finally within spittin` distance of getting my Xtra back in > the air I want to fit an external arial to the Icom A22 which I bought from > John Hauk a couple of years ago. > > Any pointers where it should be fitted or any helpful pointers?. I > presume that well away from the engine is a good idea so I am considering > somewhere under the cockpit cage. Between the u/c legs for instance. Ideas > anyone?. > > Pat > > * > > href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kolb-List">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kolb-List > href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com > * > > * > > * > >


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    Time: 03:59:19 PM PST US
    From: "Larry Cottrell" <lcottrell@fmtcblue.com>
    Subject: Re: help
    ----- Original Message ----- From: Larry Bourne To: kolb-list@matronics.com Sent: Monday, August 06, 2007 4:02 PM Subject: Re: Kolb-List: help Any pointers where it should be fitted or any helpful pointers?. I presume that well away from the engine is a good idea so I am considering somewhere under the cockpit cage. Between the u/c legs for instance. Ideas anyone?. Pat I had occasion to recover my airframe this year, and I had mounted it right behind the front seat. I had revited a piece of flat alum for a ground plane there. I had some problems with the 503 (previous was a 447) causing static. I fixed up a mount at the top of wind screen thinking that the reception would be better since it was the farthest from aany thing as I could get. I ended up going back to the mount on the bottom of the cage.Just seemed to work better. The antenna wire is bent as is described by Mr Pike.Larry C


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    Time: 04:56:19 PM PST US
    From: "Mike Welch" <mdnanwelch7@hotmail.com>
    Subject: Proper Rudder Cable Route
    Hello Group, While re-hooking up my rudder cables, I got to looking INSIDE the long fuselage tube, from the very back of the tube. To my dismay, I see that I had previously (years ago) ran the rudder cables UNDER the 5/8" X 7" bolt (that goes horizontally through the fuselage tube and secures the back of the cage frame). Now, since I haven't flown this airplane yet, this isn't a problem, except for rerouting the cables correctly, to go from the rudder horn holes, STRAIGHT to the guide holes with the little nylon bushings. IF the Kolb manual mentions the correct way, I missed that page. Plus, there is of course, some obvious common sense, too, to rig it correctly, even if the book doesn't tell you to. Duh! And, I do know I didn't consider what I presently had as "a finished product." I only temporarily rigged the rudder, but, even still, I ran the cables on the below the cross bolt. (Big no-no) The reason I even bring it up is: It is ENTIRELY possible no one would have ever caught this error. The rudder worked absolutley fine as it was rigged!! But it was wrong!!! The rudder cables inside the 6" aluminum tube would have chafed "NON-STOP" against the underside of the horizontal bolt that holds the fuselage tube solid to the frame. Now, maybe I'm the only goofball that every hooked something up wrong. (At least I caught it.) But, just in case someone else overlooked this correct routing of the rudder cables, I'd recommend a quick inspection, just to be sure!! (As a side note, the elevator's cables are supposed to go below the big bolt.) A quick view with a flashlight, from the extreme back end of the fuselage tube, looking for the rudder cables to make a straight shot from rudder horn---to nylon guide....touching nothing in between. As I said, I'm probably the only guy that ever makes a mistake, but just in case...........I thought I'd mention this, for what it's worth. Mike in SW Utah Kolb MkIIIC, but I think this rigging situation could affect most Kolbs. _________________________________________________________________ Find a local pizza place, movie theater, and more.then map the best route! http://maps.live.com/default.aspx?v=2&ss=yp.bars~yp.pizza~yp.movie%20theater&cp=42.358996~-71.056691&style=r&lvl=13&tilt=-90&dir=0&alt=-1000&scene-0607&encType=1&FORM=MGAC01


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    Time: 07:09:48 PM PST US
    From: ElleryWeld@aol.com
    Subject: Re: help
    Antenna mounting Keep it away from any strobe lights also Ellery do not archive ************************************** all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour


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    Time: 07:12:23 PM PST US
    From: Malcolmbru@aol.com
    Subject: Re: Mk ll maxumum weight
    I had a mk11 I go 265 and I flew people at 210 all the time the plane went 345 and had 8 gall gas almost got 225 hrs in it mal michigan http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour


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    Time: 08:18:38 PM PST US
    From: Arksey@aol.com
    Subject: 503 rotax engine problem report. (Jim Swan)
    Hello gang, I reported a couple of weeks back the trouble I had with the 503 rotax on my firestar ll running irregular on take off, like it was not getting enough gas. Well I test flew it for about 30 min. this even. And it ran just like it should. I replaced the pulse fuel pump,filter, installed a electric fuel pump and put in a 3 amp battery, also replaced the plug wires. I done away with the primer bulb and plumbed everthing in series. It started very well using the elec. Pump to fill the carb. Bowls, I gave it a couple of shots of primer and it started the 1st pull, took off with elec fuel pump to 1,000 feet then shut off elect. Plane ran fine on pulse pump after about 30 min. I saw Rick Nielson with his kolb mk lll powered with a volkswagon engine landing at my strip so I came in to visit with him. His mk lll performs very well with the volkswagon, he gets off in a short distance and climbs well, sounds good also.Rick only lives about 15 miles from me so we often land at each others strips. I have a bit of problem with my battery, it was hot and must have been over charged. I am using a key west regulator and I guess I will contact them and see what I got wrong. Will do some more flying in the morning. Oh yes I also pulled the exhaust system and checking the pistons and rings, they looked better that the last time I checked them. Thanks for all the input, you guys do good. Jim Swan firestar ll 503 N663S mich. http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour


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    Time: 09:23:52 PM PST US
    From: "Richard Girard" <jindoguy@gmail.com>
    Subject: Hirth 2703 Update
    Finished putting everything back together on the Challenger and the Hirth 2703 this afternoon and got in a quick test flight. The highest CHT I saw on taxi was 300. It rose to 400 during the climb to pattern altitude at 6200 RPM, but quickly settled back to 280 when I leveled out and throttled back to 5700. All this on the first 100 degree day of the year. So what's changed other than the fan belt? I stripped the exhaust system to check the pistons for signs of seizure. No marks or signs of metal transfer on either. I did find that the thermocouples for the CHT gauge were installed without removing the spark plug insulator per the engine manual. I also spent a lot of time removing every last shred of the old belt until the fan turned like a pinwheel when I blew on it. There was a small crack in the fan shroud that required welding. The entire fuel system was rebuilt. The exhaust system was a mess held together with grade 8 bolts and insulators that were installed without clearance or compression limiters. Were any or all of these enough to cause the high temps? Partial fuel starvation from collapsed lines, a small exhaust leak or two, a small leak in the shroud. I suspect that when the owner replaced the fan belt he was less than thorough in removing belt debris from the fan bearings, but it's just a suspicion. I know he didn't clean the mating surfaces of the drive pulley and the flywheel, so there may have been some wobble in the pulley that accelerated the fan belt's destruction in 25 hours. The fan belt may have been loose, too. I can only use the information the owner gave me about seeing CHT's of 490 after a long taxi, and in the 450+ range while climbing. I know I saw 540+ on one head and 510+ on the other, but all this was done with the thermocouples installed improperly. I must say that overall I'm pretty impressed with how robust this engine is. If the readings from the CHT gauge were anywhere near accurate, it received some severe abuse and seems to have shrugged it off. Don't know how it will work out in the long run. For now, I just need it to go another 20 hours or so. Rick -- Rick Girard "Ya'll drop on in" takes on a whole new meaning when you live at the airport.


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    Time: 09:25:31 PM PST US
    From: "Mike Welch" <mdnanwelch7@hotmail.com>
    Subject: Aircraft Spruce
    Mr. Ron, I order with Aircraft Spruce once in awhile, and I don't seem to find them "out of stock", as I recall. Matter of fact, I am going to call an order in to them tomorrow. I need some Poly Tak, and such. Do Not Archive Mike in SW Somewhere >From: Ron <captainron1@cox.net> >To: kolb-list@matronics.com >Subject: Kolb-List: Aircraft Spruce >Date: Mon, 6 Aug 2007 11:53:40 -0700 > > >Folks has anyone besides me having difficulty in getting parts from >Aircraft spruce? >It seems that practically every order I send them I get a reply that items >are on back order. > >I order usually run of the mill items, this last one was some extra 4130 >steel tubes and strips. >I like Spruce on account that they are in Corona CA and my orders show up >within a couple of days with Ground transport. But I may need to look at >other suppliers if they can't deliver. >Ron > >Do not archive > > _________________________________________________________________ Puzzles, trivia teasers, word scrambles and more. Play for your chance to win! http://club.live.com/home.aspx?icid=CLUB_hotmailtextlink




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