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1. 03:20 AM - self taught (tc1917)
2. 03:41 AM - SLING SHOT (Mark Vaughn)
3. 08:11 AM - Gainin new outlook (James Fitzsimmons)
4. 09:13 AM - Re: Gonna be flyier (pat ladd)
5. 09:16 AM - Re: W&B (pat ladd)
6. 09:45 AM - PC (pat ladd)
7. 10:50 AM - I flew a Kolbra last night (Ralph B)
8. 11:37 AM - Re: Gainin new outlook (David Key)
9. 11:45 AM - Re: W&B (Richard Pike)
10. 11:50 AM - Re: PC (Richard Pike)
11. 12:39 PM - Re: Gonna be flyier (jb92563)
12. 01:04 PM - Re: Herding geese and cats (jb92563)
13. 01:27 PM - Re: Silent Cayuna, Ultrastar (jb92563)
14. 01:34 PM - CHT & EGT control (jb92563)
15. 01:36 PM - Gonna be a flyer (Lanny Fetterman)
16. 01:42 PM - Re: Gonna be a flyer (jb92563)
17. 01:50 PM - Re: Gonna be a flyer (John Hauck)
18. 01:55 PM - Re: W&B (pat ladd)
19. 02:03 PM - Re: W&B (pat ladd)
20. 02:26 PM - Re: CHT & EGT control (Richard & Martha Neilsen)
21. 04:03 PM - Re: Gonna be a flyer (Dave Rains)
22. 04:10 PM - Re: CHT & EGT control (John Hauck)
23. 05:04 PM - Re: Gainin new outlook (Thom Riddle)
24. 06:54 PM - Re: Re: Herding geese and cats (HShack@aol.com)
25. 07:14 PM - Re: CHT & EGT control (Dana Hague)
26. 08:39 PM - Re: W&B (Dana Hague)
27. 09:05 PM - Re: Re: Gainin new outlook (Ron)
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I usually just lurk but want to add my experience to the mix. I am a self
taught aviator. I started with about thirty years of RC building and flying
so I at least knew how and why an aircraft stayed in the air and the proper
way to land them. (well, mostly, he he) I got the bug after a flight in a
two place quick silver. Purchased a weight shift eagle and away I went. I
had a pretty clear 1800 feet of open ground in many directions so I had that
going for me. (I used up all that and more some times). I then went on to
a Cobra which was kinda three axis. This, I thought was cats whiskers. It
still took me about three months of taxiing, ground hopes (yeah, hopes) and
the like before I actually had enough talent to get flying. From there and
about two more years of playing in my backyard, I went to building my first
original kolb. Now, after all of that for about four years, you would think
I would have a handle on the situation. Well, tail wheel, long fuse, more
power, ailerons, etc., I found out how little talent I had. I catch on to
things real easily as a mechanic and can drive anything with wheels, flat or
not but this is a different picnic. I lived but gotta tell ya, had lots of
hair on some of the things that happened. I have been down hard five times
and soft a lot. I cannot tell you how many times that cuyunna quit on me.
I would NOT event consider one on a firestar. Not enough power. 447 is
about as light as I would ever go. If you push that II o II hard for any
length of time (like one minute) it is going to cook. period. Hope you
take this into account. I could not get help from anywhere when I started.
Now this list exists and you can do yourself and your going to be widow a
big favor and tell us where you are so we can help you (most, including me,
would do it for free) If not, -- I have a saying I used when someone asks
me how much to spend on an aircraft. I just say "It depends -- how long do
you plan on being dead!!". If you are near me, I will help and walk you
through everything you need to know and help set you up with training. I
dont like dead bodies laying around. If not, just let us know where you
live so we will know where to buy the parts when it is over. Please get
help. I know. I now fly a slingshot with a 582 and getting a new 912 soon
to push it. Going to have to learn my plane all over again. Sorry about
the length. Ted Cowan, Alabama
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TED
No truer words could you speak...8-)
I have over 1200 hours easy in Hanggliders and about 6 in little Nano
trikes..
I'm now considering a Real Trike as my new means of Air time..
NO way would I just hop into one of these new Space ships they're
calling
a Trike... Geeeez you can spend 80K on these things... UN real..
I was looking at a Kolb and haven't yet completely put it out of my
head..
Can you tell me the difference between what you have ( A slingshot )
and
their Kolbra? and why do they have such tall landing gear? Its not as
if
they worry about Prop stikes 8-)
Thanks
Mark Vaughn
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From: tc1917 <tc1917@hughes.net>
Sent: Thu, 9 Aug 2007 6:20 am
Subject: Kolb-List: self taught
I usually just lurk but want to add my experience to the mix. I am a
self
taught aviator. I started with about thirty years of RC building and
flying
so I at least knew how and why an aircraft stayed in the air and the
proper
way to land them. (well, mostly, he he) I got the bug after a flight
in a
two place quick silver. Purchased a weight shift eagle and away I
went. I
had a pretty clear 1800 feet of open ground in many directions so I had
that
going for me. (I used up all that and more some times). I then went
on to
a Cobra which was kinda three axis. This, I thought was cats whiskers.
It
still took me about three months of taxiing, ground hopes (yeah, hopes)
and
the like before I actually had enough talent to get flying. From there
and
about two more years of playing in my backyard, I went to building my
first
original kolb. Now, after all of that for about four years, you would
think
I would have a handle on the situation. Well, tail wheel, long fuse,
more
power, ailerons, etc., I found out how little talent I had. I catch
on to
things real easily as a mechanic and can drive anything with wheels,
flat or
not but this is a different picnic. I lived but gotta tell ya, had
lots of
hair on some of the things that happened. I have been down hard five
times
and soft a lot. I cannot tell you how many times that cuyunna quit on
me.
I would NOT event consider one on a firestar. Not enough power. 447
is
about as light as I would ever go. If you push that II o II hard for
any
length of time (like one minute) it is going to cook. period. Hope
you
take this into account. I could not get help from anywhere when I
started.
Now this list exists and you can do yourself and your going to be widow
a
big favor and tell us where you are so we can help you (most, including
me,
would do it for free) If not, -- I have a saying I used when someone
asks
me how much to spend on an aircraft. I just say "It depends -- how
long do
you plan on being dead!!". If you are near me, I will help and walk
you
through everything you need to know and help set you up with training.
I
dont like dead bodies laying around. If not, just let us know where
you
live so we will know where to buy the parts when it is over. Please
get
help. I know. I now fly a slingshot with a 582 and getting a new 912
soon
to push it. Going to have to learn my plane all over again. Sorry
about
the length. Ted Cowan, Alabama
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| Subject: | Gainin new outlook |
Thanks all. Have started the learnin curve. Knew I could find help here.
Hav'nt made it this far without knowin that questions need to be posed. The
se responses ARE! taken seriously. Would'nt wast your time if not so. You a
ll must know that the reason I came on this list was for the desire of your
opinions 1st. So glad you folks are here and feel very comfortable with yo
ur sincere desire to help. The computer age has made this info so readily a
vailable and I AM takin advantage of it. Responses, I feel have all been po
sitive and constructive, as I had expected. Do not yet feel that I want to
give info to where I live YET as I see that it may be some ----- time befor
e I will actually need your assistance on that issue i.e. need to spend tim
e to look for local sources 1st., but knowin where to look for info is the
1st part of the fix.
Have called EAA, as my 1st. step in my learnin curve, and ordered (2) E-LSA
packets. One for my friend also as I don't think he even knows about the d
eadline. 8/15/07. Don't even have the plane yet.
Had the itch real bad, --------- but got the BRAKES on now BABY!!!!!!!!!!!!
Listenin intently,,, Friends!
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| Subject: | Re: Gonna be flyier |
Jut wantin to jump in it an teach myself to fly it. >>
James,
we all started out like that , full of enthusiasm and `get up and go`.
Of all the people on this list and the many pilots I have met I only
know one person who actually taught himself to fly and live to tell the
tale.
You `other half` is absolutely right to be going on about insurance, but
no insurance company in the world will pay out on an illegal pilot. That
is what you will be if you try to fly without proper lessons and a
licence.
Dont be a fool. .Flying is a great sport but it is not worth getting
yourself killed.
Wise up
Pat
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Boyd,
Big Lar has suggested that you have contrived an inexpensive radio ariel.
Can you let me have details please.
Pat
Off list if you like pj.ladd@btinternet.com
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>From one of my flying mags./
" Someone in the FAA has decided that all air traffic controllers should
adhere to a `sensible grown-up dress code` In sticking to the letter, if not
the spirit, of the directive, some male controllers have worn dresses to
work, while others have been sent home for wearing `gender inappropriate`
colours..
You couldn`t make it up could you?
Pat
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| Subject: | I flew a Kolbra last night |
Mark German let me take the controls of his Kolbra last night from the back seat.
We went around the pattern a few times and shot some takeoffs and landings.
After flying my Original (very light) Firestar for the last 20 years, there is
quite a difference between them. Everything is faster including the landings.
I thoroughly enjoyed the plane.
Thanks Mark .....
Ralph
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Original Firestar
20 years flying it
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| Subject: | Gainin new outlook |
If I lived in Columbia, MO then I would contact Michael Sharp he lives in
Oak Grove, MO I think he was building one a while ago.
http://www.frappr.com/?a=myfrappr&id=92602
But if I lived in Baldwyn, MS I would go north to the factory there should
be a bunch of planes there in late September for the flyin. Frappr has a
bunch of builders and flyers that you can contact and you can pick the one
closest to you.
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Here it is, pretty simple to make. Good luck.
http://www.bcchapel.org/pages/0003/pg9.htm
Richard Pike
MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
----- Original Message -----
From: "pat ladd" <pj.ladd@btinternet.com>
Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2007 12:15 PM
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: W&B
>
> Boyd,
>
> Big Lar has suggested that you have contrived an inexpensive radio ariel.
> Can you let me have details please.
>
> Pat
>
> Off list if you like pj.ladd@btinternet.com
>
>
>
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By nature and by disposition, good air traffic controllers are frequently
self-confident, arrogant, independant and feisty. Opposed to bureaucracy,
meddling, and rules tending to conformity. Controllers who do not possess
these traits leave the ranks and move up to management. And then make up
dress codes...
So this doesn't surprise me at all.
Richard Pike
MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
Retired, 30 years ATC
----- Original Message -----
From: "pat ladd" <pj.ladd@btinternet.com>
Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2007 12:44 PM
Subject: Kolb-List: PC
>
>>From one of my flying mags./
>
> " Someone in the FAA has decided that all air traffic controllers should
> adhere to a `sensible grown-up dress code` In sticking to the letter, if
> not the spirit, of the directive, some male controllers have worn dresses
> to work, while others have been sent home for wearing `gender
> inappropriate` colours..
>
> You couldn`t make it up could you?
>
> Pat
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Gonna be flyier |
I echo all those warnings.
Use AN(Aircraft) Quality hardware EVERYWHERE since that minimal investment will
pay back by allowing your aircraft to withstand the loads it was designed for.
Otherwise you are making weak points that will likely get you killed, or worse
you'll live and then the wife will kill you SLOWLY!
You have waited this long, its better you do it right so you can succeed with your
dreams.
That goes for training also. Getting to the point where you can Solo take-off,
cruise and Land any kind of aircraft will get you off to a good start with an
Ultralight.
Untrained New pilots ALWAYS eventually respond incorrectly on the flight controls,
thats why training is required.
If you are wrecking your own aircraft on every flight, assuming you live, and have
to repair it each time, does that sound like fun???? NO!
Go get trained and THEN enjoy your new Ultralight.
Ray
PS: I told one guy that I would sell my Lazair to him AFTER he got some training.....he
cleared a 1000' strip on his farm and wanted to fly. He is still alive
to this day and has put off his flying ambitions until he gets some training.
I know another guy who had about 5 hours training in Cessna's and took his Lazair
ultralight out and destroyed the wing on his attempted take-off.
(He attempted a X-wind takeoff in to strong conditions for his skill level)
He has not flown in several years because the rebuild has taken all the fun out
of his dream to fly, plus he is now a little scared to fly.
Its better to get sufficient and relavent training!
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Ray
Riverside County, CA
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| Subject: | Re: Herding geese and cats |
Its more fun to fly WITH them then AT them anyway but I can imagine that if an
8lb goose takes a quick wrong turn and ends up in your lap at 10mph "run down"
to 120mph "coming right at you"
its going to hurt something.
Better off keeping a safe distance. [Wink]
I cant imagine how to herd cats with a kolb though....care to explain that [Question]
Ray
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Ray
Riverside County, CA
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| Subject: | Re: Silent Cayuna, Ultrastar |
I'm fixing a UL II-02 that had siezed and a little honing of the cylinder liner
may work for the scuffing.
I just bought an engine honing tool for $20 and plan to run that through the seized
cylinder liner after I had removed the aluminum from the siezed piston that
stuck to the liner using Muriatic acid.
New Kimpex piston and rings is $45 plus you can get them oversized is you need
to hone a lot more.
A new cast iron liner is about $100.
I also have a Cuyuna 430 as a backup and have seen them for sale from $200 used
to $1200 new and are very common and easy to find parts for.
I also plan to open up the fins on the engine to allow more airflow to the PTO
cylinder, which seized. They sell modified "Flow Thru" heads like this already
so I figure I would save a bit and modify my own.
Ray
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Ray
Riverside County, CA
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| Subject: | CHT & EGT control |
I was wondering what people do to control the temps CHT and EGT if they find they
are exceeding redline?
I figure the most important is the CHT and I figure that throttleing down is the
way to cool things down a bit if you start to overheat?
But how does EGT relate?
What if EGT is redline and CHT is not?
Does that mean you are to rich and the excess fuel is burning in the exhaust pipe?
These questions would be for a Cuyuna UL II-02 lets say but is probably the same
for all 2 cycles in principle.
Ray
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Ray
Riverside County, CA
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| Subject: | Gonna be a flyer |
NEWBIE : How good do these here ultralights fly?
OLD ULTRALIGHT PILOT: Just good enough to kill you!
Lanny Fetterman N598LF
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| Subject: | Re: Gonna be a flyer |
NEWBIE : How good do these here ultralights fly?
OLD ULTRALIGHT PILOT: Great!, they take you right to the scene of the accident
every time!!!
[Laughing]
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| Subject: | Gonna be a flyer |
Lanny F:
I like that.
Why is it some folks think they can fly these things without training?
If they could, would be no need for flight instructors.
Jhauck
mkIII
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NEWBIE : How good do these here ultralights fly?
OLD ULTRALIGHT PILOT: Just good enough to kill you!
Lanny Fetterman N598LF
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pretty simple to make. >>
Famous last words. To me anything electrical that you dont push into a
socket and switch it on , is complicated.. However my ex partner in the
Eurostar builds his own model railway stuff and has a little workshop.
Time to call in a favour I think.
Thank you and thank you to the several list members who have given me
advice. Thanks everybody
Pat
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The spread sheet is not been made to look real purdy,,,,, but it works.>>
Boyd,
I have tried without success to view and print this. I have not been able to
produce a program to open an xls file.
Is it possible to send it in another format ?
Pat
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| Subject: | Re: CHT & EGT control |
I wonder about this also. I don't have a EGT gage. I know my mixture is
correct from reading my plugs and my Oil & CHT temps are fine so what do I
care about EGTs. If I was leaning my mixture in flight I understand that it
gives me a early warning about going too lean that is fine but I don't do
that because I don't have in flight adjustable carbs. If I were to unload
the prop in the air I understand that the EGTs will go up but again why
would I care. If heat isn't being absorbed by my engine with in limits and
my other temps stay in a working range isn't that a good thing?
Rick Neilsen
Redrive VW Powered MKIIIC
----- Original Message -----
From: "jb92563" <jb92563@yahoo.com>
Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2007 4:33 PM
Subject: Kolb-List: CHT & EGT control
>
> I was wondering what people do to control the temps CHT and EGT if they
> find they are exceeding redline?
>
> I figure the most important is the CHT and I figure that throttleing down
> is the way to cool things down a bit if you start to overheat?
>
> But how does EGT relate?
>
> What if EGT is redline and CHT is not?
>
> Does that mean you are to rich and the excess fuel is burning in the
> exhaust pipe?
>
> These questions would be for a Cuyuna UL II-02 lets say but is probably
> the same for all 2 cycles in principle.
>
> Ray
>
> --------
> Ray
> Riverside County, CA
>
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>
>
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>
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>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Gonna be a flyer |
I'm still out here lurking... You know, one of you guys who is nearby might meet
with, and give this fellow some personal advise. Perhaps arrange for some
instruction. Sure wouldn't like to here he was injured, or worse. :(
Skeeter
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| Subject: | CHT & EGT control |
Rick:
Not on a 4 stroke. Unloading the engine only applies to 2 strokes.
john h
If I were to unload
the prop in the air I understand that the EGTs will go up
Rick Neilsen
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| Subject: | Re: Gainin new outlook |
...Do not yet feel that I want to give info to where I live YET ...
James,
Are you for real? What are you hiding? Never mind, I don't really want to know.
Adios!
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Thom in Buffalo
N197BG FS1/447
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"Blind respect for authority is the greatest enemy of truth."
Albert Einstein
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| Subject: | Re: Herding geese and cats |
In a message dated 8/9/2007 4:04:41 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
jb92563@yahoo.com writes:
Its more fun to fly WITH them then AT them anyway but I can imagine that if
an 8lb goose takes a quick wrong turn and ends up in your lap at 10mph "run
down" to 120mph "coming right at you"
its going to hurt something.
Hate to be a wet blanket, but I think it's illegal to herd or otherwise
harrass ANY wild game with any vehicle.
Howard Shackleford
FS II
SC
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| Subject: | Re: CHT & EGT control |
At 04:33 PM 8/9/2007, jb92563 wrote:
>I figure the most important is the CHT and I figure that throttleing down
>is the way to cool things down a bit if you start to overheat?
Unless your carb is screwed up and running too lean in the midrange, then
throttling back could make it even worse...
-Dana
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At 05:03 PM 8/9/2007, you wrote:
>I have tried without success to view and print this. I have not been able
>to produce a program to open an xls file.
xls is Microsoft Excel, part of MS Office. If you don't have that then the
free software OpenOffice (http://openoffice.org) will do it.
-Dana
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| Subject: | Re: Gainin new outlook |
My guess is that Fitzmons is not in the USA, probably an Aussie trying to sound
American. :-)
Ron
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James,
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Adios!
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