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1. 01:29 AM - Re: W&B (pat ladd)
2. 05:49 AM - Re: CHT & EGT control (icrashrc)
3. 05:52 AM - Re: Gainin new outlook (olendorf)
4. 06:16 AM - Re: Re: Gainin new outlook (David Key)
5. 06:32 AM - W&B (Jeff Nelson)
6. 06:43 AM - Re: Re: Gainin new outlook (Larry Cottrell)
7. 07:36 AM - Re: W&B (Thom Riddle)
8. 07:54 AM - Re: CHT & EGT control (Richard Girard)
9. 10:11 AM - Re: Re: Gainin new outlook (Ron)
10. 10:58 AM - Re: I flew a Kolbra last night (Ralph B)
11. 11:28 AM - Re: Re: W&B (Jeff Nelson)
12. 11:30 AM - Re: CHT & EGT control (Richard & Martha Neilsen)
13. 11:39 AM - Re: W&B (Thom Riddle)
14. 12:52 PM - W&B & Antenna (boyd)
15. 03:14 PM - Re: I flew a Kolbra last night (planecrazzzy)
16. 06:47 PM - Re: CHT & EGT control (Richard Girard)
17. 08:37 PM - Re: Re: CHT & EGT control (Jim Baker)
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xls is Microsoft Excel, >>
Thanks Dana,
I think Wendy has that on her confuser.
Pat
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| Subject: | Re: CHT & EGT control |
Trust me. Your exhaust valves, seats, and guides care what the EGT's are. :-)
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Scott
www.ill-EagleAviation.com
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| Subject: | Re: Gainin new outlook |
Based on email address; jfitzsy(at)stny.rr.com
he is in southern tier of New York State.
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Scott Olendorf
Original Firestar, Rotax 447, Powerfin prop
Schenectady, NY
http://KolbFirestar.googlepages.com
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| Subject: | Re: Gainin new outlook |
I found a Mr FITZSIMMONS
that lives with his wife only
who own a rectangular North/South facing property over 700 feet long
But this one is only 52 and I wouldn't call that mid 50's but check out the
property... NICE
http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&geocode=&q=2301+MCGUIRE+LN+COLUMBIA+MO+65202&sll=37.0625,-95.677068&sspn=86.135299,105.820313&ie=UTF8&ll=38.974557,-92.154393&spn=0.011077,0.019956&t=k&z=16&om=1
I think no to Austraila because he's using Road Runner ISP and that service
is only available in the United States. They are a high speed internet
provider so I'm not sure cost is the real issue about why Mr FITZSIMMONS
wouldn't
want to pay for flying lessons.
If someone lives near Columbia, MO then fly over this property and if it's
got a runway cut in it, I'm all in....
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I finished my Kolb Firestar rework last night and have a question. My
W&B is at 33% and the manual says it needs to be at 20 to 37%. My
question is what are you guys getting for W&B and being slightly tail
heavy has anyone had any issues? I would rather have it a little tail
heavy as I can lean forward to get out of any strange situations. When
I had the Luscombe I was amazed at how things changed on the plane when
I just leaned forward a little. I will be calling for the inspection
this PM. I was happy with my weight, I turned out to be 359 with full
fuel and an electrical system w battery. It is still a pull start
though. That is another thing as the fuel is burned off my W&B will
change. I guess I will do a W&B with the tank empty tonight. If anyone
is interested I can post the W&B. Let me know. I also installed a IVO 2
blade prop. I can't believe how much smoother it runs over the old wood
prop that was on it.
Thanks
Jeff Nelson
Kolb Firestar KXP N1655E
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| Subject: | Re: Gainin new outlook |
----- Original Message -----
From: "olendorf" <olendorf@gmail.com>
Sent: Friday, August 10, 2007 6:52 AM
Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Gainin new outlook
>
> Based on email address; jfitzsy(at)stny.rr.com
> he is in southern tier of New York State.
>
I personally am a bit too old and cranky to be playing guessing games. He
asked for help and advice and it was given in an attempt to get him safely
in the air. He has in effect said that he values that advice, but it
probably doesn't apply to him. Lots of people would do anything, including
personally helping him do this safely, yet he wants to play
games????????????? Thanks but no thanks!
Larry C
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Jeff,
I get the impression from your post that you are talking about your CG without
you, the pilot, sitting in the airplane. If I am interpreting your post incorrectly,
sorry.
However, if I'm interpreting it correctly, please note the following:
The acceptable CG range is meaningful only with the aircraft loaded (you and fuel
and gizmos you carry) and in flight stance, not tail on the ground. You should
be interested in the CG location with you in the airplane and full fuel but
also with you in the airplane and minimum fuel, since you will use the fuel
in flight. Your aircraft empty weight(no fuel) and CG location in flight stance
is needed so you can calculate what various loading (different pilot weights)
will do to the CG in flight. Your empty weight CG location does not have to
be within the acceptable range, in fact rarely will be in a Kolb.
I hope this clarifies the meaning and significance of the acceptable CG range numbers.
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Thom in Buffalo
N197BG FS1/447
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"Blind respect for authority is the greatest enemy of truth."
Albert Einstein
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| Subject: | Re: CHT & EGT control |
I don't have a four stroke on a Kolb, yet, but the HKS on my trike can
definitely be unloaded and just like a two stroke, CHT goes down and EGT
goes up.
I think the difference here is that the trike has variable angle of
incidence unlike a conventional aircraft.
Rick
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On 8/9/07, Dana Hague <d-m-hague@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>
> At 04:33 PM 8/9/2007, jb92563 wrote:
>
> >I figure the most important is the CHT and I figure that throttleing down
> >is the way to cool things down a bit if you start to overheat?
>
> Unless your carb is screwed up and running too lean in the midrange, then
> throttling back could make it even worse...
>
> -Dana
> --
> --
> "The budget should be balanced, the Treasury should be refilled, public
> debt should be reduced, the arrogance of officialdom tempered and
> controlled, and the assistance to foreign lands should be curtailed lest
> Rome become bankrupt" -Cicero, 68 B.C.
>
>
--
Rick Girard
"Ya'll drop on in"
takes on a whole new meaning
when you live at the airport.
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| Subject: | Re: Gainin new outlook |
That's pretty good. I did a quick search via Google but it did not give me all
the details. There used to be a "who is" site that was really good, but I couldn't
find it.
So the mystery is solved partially,,, now is the why? ;-)
Ron
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| Subject: | Re: I flew a Kolbra last night |
Here's another picture of the Kolbra.
Ralph
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Ralph B
Original Firestar
20 years flying it
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Sorry yes I did include myself in the percentage calculation with full fuel
and all the gizmo's and the empty weight I had included 5 gal of fuel so
with me and everything the full weight is at 565 and my understanding from
the paperwork I have this is within the gross weight. I was just asking is
where are other people at for their CG. As you know this is a big part of
the certification process and needs to be right.
Thanks
Jeff
From: "Thom Riddle" <riddletr@gmail.com>
Subject: Kolb-List: Re: W&B
Jeff,
I get the impression from your post that you are talking about your CG
without you, the pilot, sitting in the airplane. If I am interpreting your
post incorrectly, sorry.
However, if I'm interpreting it correctly, please note the following:
The acceptable CG range is meaningful only with the aircraft loaded (you and
fuel and gizmos you carry) and in flight stance, not tail on the ground. You
should be interested in the CG location with you in the airplane and full
fuel but also with you in the airplane and minimum fuel, since you will use
the fuel in flight. Your aircraft empty weight(no fuel) and CG location in
flight stance is needed so you can calculate what various loading (different
pilot weights) will do to the CG in flight. Your empty weight CG location
does not have to be within the acceptable range, in fact rarely will be in a
Kolb.
I hope this clarifies the meaning and significance of the acceptable CG
range numbers.
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Thom in Buffalo
N197BG FS1/447
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"Blind respect for authority is the greatest enemy of truth."
Albert Einstein
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| Subject: | Re: CHT & EGT control |
Richard
Thanks for the input. I figured the EGT would go up like it does in a 2
stroke.
As for your comment about "variable angle of incidence" not available in
a regular aircraft? I think you fail to understand the fact that both
types of aircraft have the ability and need for changing the angle of
incidence. You do that by shifting your weight and we do it by elevator
deflection.
Rick Neilsen
Redrive VW Powered MKIIIC
----- Original Message -----
From: Richard Girard
To: kolb-list@matronics.com
Sent: Friday, August 10, 2007 10:54 AM
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: CHT & EGT control
I don't have a four stroke on a Kolb, yet, but the HKS on my trike can
definitely be unloaded and just like a two stroke, CHT goes down and EGT
goes up.
I think the difference here is that the trike has variable angle of
incidence unlike a conventional aircraft.
Rick
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On 8/9/07, Dana Hague <d-m-hague@comcast.net> wrote:
At 04:33 PM 8/9/2007, jb92563 wrote:
>I figure the most important is the CHT and I figure that
throttleing down
>is the way to cool things down a bit if you start to overheat?
Unless your carb is screwed up and running too lean in the midrange,
then
throttling back could make it even worse...
-Dana
--
--
"The budget should be balanced, the Treasury should be refilled,
public
debt should be reduced, the arrogance of officialdom tempered and
controlled, and the assistance to foreign lands should be curtailed
lest
"Ya'll drop on in"
takes on a whole new meaning
when you live at the airport.
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Jeff,
My FS 1 CG is at 33.4% with full fuel and me, 33.0% with tank near empty.
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Thom in Buffalo
N197BG FS1/447
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"Blind respect for authority is the greatest enemy of truth."
Albert Einstein
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Fei for everyone's information.....
I am still hanging in there... and have answered many post off list... and
have even sent W&B as well as Antenna attachments to those who needed
them.... I have been so busy this summer that sometimes I only check on
email every few days... but I do answer those in need.
Boyd
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| Subject: | Re: I flew a Kolbra last night |
Mark German's Kolbra...
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Gotta Fly...
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| Subject: | Re: CHT & EGT control |
Blame it on the heat. What I meant was variable thrust line. The angle
between the thrust line and the wing is fixed on a Kolb, or other
conventional airplane (yes I know about the F8U and the A7 which could jack
up the angle of incidence, but I don't know of any others).
On a trike, the wing is free to move in pitch and roll, while the thrust
line to the carriage (the trike part) is fixed.
Hope that makes more sense.
Rick
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On 8/10/07, Richard & Martha Neilsen <NeilsenRM@comcast.net> wrote:
>
> Richard
>
> Thanks for the input. I figured the EGT would go up like it does in a 2
> stroke.
>
> As for your comment about "variable angle of incidence" not available in a
> regular aircraft? I think you fail to understand the fact that both types of
> aircraft have the ability and need for changing the angle of incidence. You
> do that by shifting your weight and we do it by elevator deflection.
>
> Rick Neilsen
> Redrive VW Powered MKIIIC
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> *From:* Richard Girard <jindoguy@gmail.com>
> *To:* kolb-list@matronics.com
> *Sent:* Friday, August 10, 2007 10:54 AM
> *Subject:* Re: Kolb-List: CHT & EGT control
>
> I don't have a four stroke on a Kolb, yet, but the HKS on my trike can
> definitely be unloaded and just like a two stroke, CHT goes down and EGT
> goes up.
> I think the difference here is that the trike has variable angle of
> incidence unlike a conventional aircraft.
>
> Rick
>
> do not archive
>
> On 8/9/07, Dana Hague <d-m-hague@comcast.net> wrote:
> >
> >
> > At 04:33 PM 8/9/2007, jb92563 wrote:
> >
> > >I figure the most important is the CHT and I figure that throttleing
> > down
> > >is the way to cool things down a bit if you start to overheat?
> >
> > Unless your carb is screwed up and running too lean in the midrange,
> > then
> > throttling back could make it even worse...
> >
> > -Dana
> > --
> > --
> > "The budget should be balanced, the Treasury should be refilled, public
> > debt should be reduced, the arrogance of officialdom tempered and
> > controlled, and the assistance to foreign lands should be curtailed lest
> >
> > "Ya'll drop on in"
> > takes on a whole new meaning
> > when you live at the airport.
> >
> > *
> >
> > href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kolb-List">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kolb-List
> > href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com
> > *
> >
> > *
>
>
> *
>
>
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Rick Girard
"Ya'll drop on in"
takes on a whole new meaning
when you live at the airport.
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| Subject: | Re: CHT & EGT control |
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>
> Trust me. Your exhaust valves, seats, and guides care what the EGT's are. :-)
Well, sort of...but not in the way you're thinking....
http://www.warmkessel.com/jr/flying/td/jd/59.jsp
Jim Baker
580.788.2779
Elmore City, OK
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