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1. 04:19 AM - Re: Suzuki 1.3 DOC 16V (Thom Riddle)
2. 04:31 AM - Re: Need radio work (Thom Riddle)
3. 05:31 AM - Re: Re: Mark III with an HKS (Tony Oldman)
4. 07:03 AM - Re: Re: Need radio work (Richard Girard)
5. 08:58 AM - Re: Re: Suzuki 1.3 DOC 16V (Jeremy Casey)
6. 09:16 AM - Re: Firestar II to Firefly (Jeremy Casey)
7. 11:10 AM - Re: Re: Need radio work (Bob Noyer)
8. 01:25 PM - Re: Firestar II to Firefly (John Hauck)
9. 01:55 PM - Re: Firestar II to Firefly (Richard Pike)
10. 02:02 PM - Things to see from a Kolb in the air (Eugene Zimmerman)
11. 02:17 PM - Re: Firestar II to Firefly (Eugene Zimmerman)
12. 02:54 PM - Re: Firestar II to Firefly (Richard Pike)
13. 03:50 PM - P-51 crashes into P-51 ( Pictures ) (planecrazzzy)
14. 05:07 PM - Re: P-51 crashes into P-51 ( Pictures ) kobe (Southern Reflections)
15. 06:51 PM - Re: P-51 crashes into P-51 ( Pictures ) kobe (planecrazzzy)
16. 07:56 PM - Re: Firestar II to Firefly (Eugene Zimmerman)
17. 08:16 PM - Re: Firestar II to Firefly (Richard Pike)
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| Subject: | Re: Suzuki 1.3 DOC 16V |
Rick,
I have no idea what the installed weight of our 912UL is but our Allegro 2000 is
about 50 lb. heavier than your MkIIIC w/ VW. Our Allegro is a very light S-LSA
compared to most w/ 912ULS engines at about 750 lb. empty. Most of that extra
weight is heavier airframe components.
Bottom line is your 598 lb empty weight is a good weight with plenty of power from
a reliable engine that is cheap to maintain. Hard to beat.
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Thom in Buffalo
N197BG FS1/447
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| Subject: | Re: Need radio work |
Lanny,
Another way to get used to the radio, at least the listening and understanding
part, is to go to
www.liveatc.net
and listen to the ATC at several airports. These are live broadcasts of actual
aircraft/atc conversations. I'd try the smaller airports so you won't be overwhelmed.
It also helps to pick one in your part of the country so the language
is one you are accustomed to hearing. It is free and really helps you get used
to the rhythm, order and cadence.
I agree with John H., as we age our ability to understand rapid fire speech diminishes
and there is nothing gained by being fast if you are not understood. Most
of us fly from airports that are not all that busy anyway, so the need for
speed is just not there. Be relaxed and speak in a normal conversational tone
but leave out all the unnecessary words. As Sergeant Friday on Dragnet used to
say, "Just the facts, M'am."
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Thom in Buffalo
N197BG FS1/447
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| Subject: | Re: Mark III with an HKS |
I fly a MK111 with a 503 and have done so for 300hrs . It gives a cruise
of about 70 mph at amsl .Climbs about 700 ft pmt with two up . its a very
nice machine to handle that performs very well . The only failing that I
have had is that in very high winds the ruder control is marginal. That is
in a wind speed of 30 + mph and turning into wind on short finals you need
to push the nose down and give it plenty of power to line up with the runway
Very safe very easy and know surprises .
----- Original Message -----
From: "Richard Pike" <richard@bcchapel.org>
Sent: Friday, August 17, 2007 7:01 AM
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Mark III with an HKS
>
> Nope, not the right answer.
> Kolb marketed the MKIII with the 503 for several years, and I flew one
> built to minimum weight with a dual carb 503 on it. With two people, it
> was slow climbing, but better than a Cessna 152. An HKS makes more power
> than a 503, so you would get performance about mid way between what you
> get with a 503 and a 582.
>
> Obviously it would be much less fun than with 65, 80, or 100 HP, but it
> would certainly be airworthy.
>
> Richard Pike
> MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "JetPilot" <orcabonita@hotmail.com>
> To: <kolb-list@matronics.com>
> Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2007 1:24 PM
> Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Mark III with an HKS
>
>
> <snip>
> I think the HKS would be horrible on a MK III or maybe not even fly at
> all.
>>
>> Mike
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>> "NO FEAR" - If you have no fear you did not go as fast as you
>> could have !!!
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>> Kolb MK-III Xtra, 912-S
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| Subject: | Re: Need radio work |
Lanny et al, By fast I meant brief and succinct. You don't have to speak
like a high school debater on a meth amphetamine buzz, just clear about your
intentions.
I don't need to tell ground control anything more than where I am and where
I want to go. I.E. "Renton ground, Cessna 54088 at BEFA with Zulu, taxi
takeoff."
What the ground controller now knows about Cessna 54088 is that it's at the
Boeing Employees Flying Assn., The pilot has the latest ATIS information (
Zulu ), and he wants to taxi to the active runway to takeoff.
It doesn't happen often, but I've heard controllers chew a pilot out in a
not too pleasant manner after a rambling transmission. In one memorable
case, the controller told the pilot to hold position until he had the ATIS
info and knew what he wanted to do. He was still being held when I had
finished a mile long taxi, done my runup, changed to tower frequency and
done my first touch and go.
Just remember that radio communications are simplex, that is, they aren't
like a telephone where you can just talk over someone else. While you have
the key open no one else can communicate on that frequency, even the pilot
calling in with a life threatening emergency cannot get through if you're
yakking it up.
Rick
On 8/18/07, Thom Riddle <riddletr@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> Lanny,
>
> Another way to get used to the radio, at least the listening and
> understanding part, is to go to
>
> www.liveatc.net
>
> and listen to the ATC at several airports. These are live broadcasts of
> actual aircraft/atc conversations. I'd try the smaller airports so you won't
> be overwhelmed. It also helps to pick one in your part of the country so the
> language is one you are accustomed to hearing. It is free and really helps
> you get used to the rhythm, order and cadence.
>
> I agree with John H., as we age our ability to understand rapid fire
> speech diminishes and there is nothing gained by being fast if you are not
> understood. Most of us fly from airports that are not all that busy anyway,
> so the need for speed is just not there. Be relaxed and speak in a normal
> conversational tone but leave out all the unnecessary words. As Sergeant
> Friday on Dragnet used to say, "Just the facts, M'am."
>
> --------
> Thom in Buffalo
> N197BG FS1/447
>
> --------------------
> "Blind respect for authority is the greatest enemy of truth."
> Albert Einstein
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=129695#129695
>
>
--
Rick Girard
"Ya'll drop on in"
takes on a whole new meaning
when you live at the airport.
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| Subject: | Re: Suzuki 1.3 DOC 16V |
I seem to remember Dennis Souder pulled a 912 install off the factory
Slingshot and weighed it ready to run minus prop and it was something
like 165? (Shooting from memory here but I bet it's in the archives.)
Jeremy Casey
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Richard
Girard
Sent: Friday, August 17, 2007 7:09 PM
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Suzuki 1.3 DOC 16V
Rick, I can't find the list of engine weights I have in some remote
subdirectory, so I used this list from Great Plains Aircraft. I also
checked what the AeroVee folks claim.
http://www.greatplainsas.com/specsfd.html
http://www.sonexaircraft.com/eshop/cart.php?target=product
<http://www.sonexaircraft.com/eshop/cart.php?target=product&product_id=1
6424&category_id=268> &product_id=16424&category_id=268
Start with the best weight at 160lb. then add a redrive, and you're at
180 to 190 installed. Compare this to the 128 to 134lb. (Rotax
Installation Manual page 7-2) for a 912 and even if you get real
generous on the weight of the sump tank and lines you're still at a
least difference of 40lb. and a max of 60.
Rick
On 8/17/07, Richard & Martha Neilsen <NeilsenRM@comcast.net> wrote:
Rick
I'm just curious how you figure that a VW is 60 Lbs. heaver than a 912?
My VW with is maybe 10lbs more. Now I took steps to save weight any
where I could but I didn't cut 50 lbs off. If your figuring the stock
generator and fan into this weight maybe.
Also I had my share of engine problems in my old beetle and bus but
never had a valve brakeage problem. They are a bit sensitive to valve
adjustments and I just don't like adjusting them so I installed
hydraulic lifters in my engine. Also there isn't much stock VW about the
engines they build today. You do have to use a bit of common sense about
sitting on the ground with the engine running and no cooling air flowing
over the engine.
Rick Neilsen
Redrive VW powered MKIIIC
----- Original Message -----
From: Richard Girard <mailto:jindoguy@gmail.com>
Sent: Monday, August 13, 2007 4:21 PM
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Suzuki 1.3 DOC 16V
Ron, Where the 912 has an advantage over the VW is weight, about 60 lb.
worth. Those Austrian engineers went to great lengths to keep the engine
as light as possible. And if your talking about the 912S your giving up
20 HP, too.
I like VW's a lot and as a child of the 60's I've owned my share. I even
owned a "Thing", and the Vanagon is on my favorite vehicle list since my
son looped one on Hwy 80 with me sleeping in the back, but I've walked
into VW parts depts carrying the latest broken bit and singing the
"Volkswagen, does it again" commercial jingle too many times. Maybe all
the development work has solved some of the problems, but I've lost the
#3 exhaust valve head on type 1, type 3, and type 4 engines and they
don't run worth a darn on three cylinders.
Rick
http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kolb-List
http://forums.matronics.com
when you live at the airport.
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| Subject: | Firestar II to Firefly |
Build 22' wings (ala Slinghot/Firefly), 7 ribs, bunch of bracing (ala
Slingshot) really stout drag strut..
Me too - except 8 ribs and 26' 9" wings ...tip to tip. bunch of bracing
(ala
Slingshot) really stout drag strut..like you said. + angle bracing per
Hauck.
You should change your wing tips?.It would save you about 18 inches.
AND THIS IS JUST MY OPINION - It will cost you at LOT to go to 22'
wings.
Work on the tips and add a little wing, it's nice to stall at 30 -mph
with VGs.
They work, and that's the truth!
<snip>
Have flown my share of big wing homebuilts.wanted a "toy" that would
handle as such.yea stall will go up but the beating from thermals will
go down thanks to the higher wing loading too.everything is a tradeoff.
Flew a clip-wing Challenger single place and compared to the 2 place
long wing I flew at the time the clip-wing single was a hoot to fly and
the 2 place long wing was a pig. When I run across this cage the first
thing through my head was mini-Slingshot . Also the wings were toast
already so I was starting from scratch anyway.
Jeremy
P.S. I posted a lengthy explanation of some VG experience the other
day.fully understand the benefits of VG's and the "Superfly" will have
them too.;-)
P.P.S. The RANS S7 with VG's indicated 26 at "stall" solo.but AS
indicators are pretty inaccurate that slow.although the GPS says it's
real close.then again just a puff of wind at those low numbers will
affect the GPS too..
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| Subject: | Re: Need radio work |
This is from Flying Tales of The Grey Baron:
Sayah Yo Reequest
The following interchange was overheard between Washington National
Approach and a Southern Belle (the tail number has been changed to
protect the innocent), and with apologies for attempting to reproduce
her accent. The time is about 4PM on a weekday; a year before the
strike. Approach is very busy with airline traffic. Marginal VFR.
Turn off your squelch and listen:
Washington Nashnul A-proach, this is Novembuh Oh-oh-oh Cholly Ho-tel
about five miles from Washington. Wez now three point five. Ovah."
Zero Charley Hotel, National Approach. Whats your request?
Washington Nashnul A-proach, Novembuh Oh-oh-oh Cholly Ho-tel is VFR,
and wed lak to lan at Washington Nashnul. Ovah.
Zero Hotel, say type aircraft and position.
Washington Nashnul A-proach this is Novembuh Oh-oh-oh Cholly Ho-
tel. Weuh a Pipuh Cherokee Six. It looks lak wez about ovah the
bridge. Ovah.
Piper Charley Hotel. Maintain VFR. Squawk zero four fife two and
ident.
...and so on, with the Piper cluttering up the frequency with the
complete tail number and message address each time. Meanwhile she
descended without clearance to 1500 feet.
Approach in complete exasperation, tells her her transponder is not
working. She turns it from STBY to ON.
She is again reporting over a bridge, and wanting landing
instructions.
Approach, about to leave his tree, says: Charley Hotel, we have
maybe 15 bridges in the Washington area. Due to heavy traffic suggest
you try Hyde Field or Washington Virginia airports. Frequency change
approved. Good day."
regards,
Bob N. FireFly 070 Old Kolb
http://www.angelfire.com/rpg/ronoy/
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| Subject: | Re: Firestar II to Firefly |
Jeremy:
Some day I would like to do a side by side comparison with one of these
super slow flying aircraft and my non-VG equipped mkIII. Might give me
some idea of what I am missing, flying around in a hawg that weighs way
too much.
I offerred the right reverend Pike the opportunity to rub it in, the VG
thing that is, doing a side by side, but he said that would not be fair.
Still waiting. I don't mind getting whupped. Promise not to whine too
loud if I do.
john h
mkIII
P.P.S. The RANS S7 with VG's indicated 26 at "stall" solo.but AS
indicators are pretty inaccurate that slow.although the GPS says it's
real close.then again just a puff of wind at those low numbers will
affect the GPS too
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| Subject: | Re: Firestar II to Firefly |
I still don't think it would be fair, but just to even the odds, maybe
we could talk Travis into riding with me while we do it...
Richard Pike
MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
----- Original Message -----
From: John Hauck
To: kolb-list@matronics.com
Sent: Saturday, August 18, 2007 4:24 PM
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Firestar II to Firefly
Jeremy:
Some day I would like to do a side by side comparison with one of
these super slow flying aircraft and my non-VG equipped mkIII. Might
give me some idea of what I am missing, flying around in a hawg that
weighs way too much.
I offerred the right reverend Pike the opportunity to rub it in, the
VG thing that is, doing a side by side, but he said that would not be
fair. Still waiting. I don't mind getting whupped. Promise not to
whine too loud if I do.
john h
mkIII
P.P.S. The RANS S7 with VG's indicated 26 at "stall" solo.but AS
indicators are pretty inaccurate that slow.although the GPS says it's
real close.then again just a puff of wind at those low numbers will
affect the GPS too
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| Subject: | Things to see from a Kolb in the air |
http://picasaweb.google.com/imhisson2/BarnFire
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| Subject: | Re: Firestar II to Firefly |
John, I agree with the preacher. It would not be fair.
But I'd love to give it a try with my modified Firestar.
I have never had an aircraft best me yet in a slow-flight challenge
except the slow Jelly Fish and I can match even some of them.
Gene
On Aug 18, 2007, at 4:24 PM, John Hauck wrote:
> Jeremy:
>
> Some day I would like to do a side by side comparison with one of
> these super slow flying aircraft and my non-VG equipped mkIII.
> Might give me some idea of what I am missing, flying around in a
> hawg that weighs way too much.
>
> I offerred the right reverend Pike the opportunity to rub it in,
> the VG thing that is, doing a side by side, but he said that would
> not be fair. Still waiting. I don't mind getting whupped.
> Promise not to whine too loud if I do.
>
> john h
> mkIII
> P.P.S. The RANS S7 with VGs indicated 26 at stall solobut AS
> indicators are pretty inaccurate that slowalthough the GPS says
> its real closethen again just a puff of wind at those low numbers
> will affect the GPS too
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| Subject: | Re: Firestar II to Firefly |
Will you be there Gene?
Of course, I would want Travis on the ground if I was matched against your
Firestar...
Richard Pike
MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
----- Original Message -----
From: "Eugene Zimmerman" <ez@embarqmail.com>
Sent: Saturday, August 18, 2007 5:15 PM
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Firestar II to Firefly
>
> John, I agree with the preacher. It would not be fair.
>
> But I'd love to give it a try with my modified Firestar.
> I have never had an aircraft best me yet in a slow-flight challenge
> except the slow Jelly Fish and I can match even some of them.
>
> Gene
>
> On Aug 18, 2007, at 4:24 PM, John Hauck wrote:
>
>> Jeremy:
>>
>> Some day I would like to do a side by side comparison with one of these
>> super slow flying aircraft and my non-VG equipped mkIII. Might give me
>> some idea of what I am missing, flying around in a hawg that weighs way
>> too much.
>>
>> I offerred the right reverend Pike the opportunity to rub it in, the VG
>> thing that is, doing a side by side, but he said that would not be fair.
>> Still waiting. I don't mind getting whupped. Promise not to whine too
>> loud if I do.
>>
>> john h
>> mkIII
>> P.P.S. The RANS S7 with VGs indicated 26 at stall solobut AS
>> indicators are pretty inaccurate that slowalthough the GPS says its
>> real closethen again just a puff of wind at those low numbers will
>> affect the GPS too
>> http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kolb-List_-
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| Subject: | P-51 crashes into P-51 ( Pictures ) |
Hey Guys,
I just recieved an e-mail with a "power point" attachment
It has a series of 16 pictures , when the P-51 landed on the other one
Then flipped over and crashed....
If you want me to send it to you.....
Write me ....Put "Kolb" in the subject line ...
planecrazzzy@yahoo.com
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Gotta Fly...
Mike & "Jaz" in MN
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PS I already sent it to Richard,Bob & Big Lar
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| Subject: | Re: P-51 crashes into P-51 ( Pictures ) kobe |
----- Original Message -----
From: "planecrazzzy" <planecrazzzy@yahoo.com>
Sent: Saturday, August 18, 2007 6:49 PM
Subject: Kolb-List: P-51 crashes into P-51 ( Pictures )
>
> Hey Guys,
> I just recieved an e-mail with a "power point" attachment
>
> It has a series of 16 pictures , when the P-51 landed on the other one
>
> Then flipped over and crashed....
>
> If you want me to send it to you.....
>
> Write me ....Put "Kolb" in the subject line ...
>
> planecrazzzy@yahoo.com
> .
> .
> Gotta Fly...
> Mike & "Jaz" in MN
> .
> .
> PS I already sent it to Richard,Bob & Big Lar
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| Subject: | Re: P-51 crashes into P-51 ( Pictures ) kobe |
The people who wrote "ME" ,were sent the power point pictures...
I tried to add your address from this site.....it wouldn't pass , even though
I exchanged the "at" sign.....If you want me to send it to you....
Write me , I'll copy & paste yer address onto it...
KOLB....
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Gotta Fly...
Mike & "Jaz" in MN
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| Subject: | Re: Firestar II to Firefly |
Richard,
"Fleeting are the delights of a delusion."
Me and my Firestar are both phatt
What do I get if I win? :-)
Gene
On Aug 18, 2007, at 5:54 PM, Richard Pike wrote:
> Will you be there Gene?
> Of course, I would want Travis on the ground if I was matched
> against your Firestar...
>
> Richard Pike
> MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
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| Subject: | Re: Firestar II to Firefly |
All the honors and privileges of an Aviation Superstar.
Too bad there aren't any...
Richard Pike
MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
----- Original Message -----
From: "Eugene Zimmerman" <ez@embarqmail.com>
Sent: Saturday, August 18, 2007 10:54 PM
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Firestar II to Firefly
>
> Richard,
> "Fleeting are the delights of a delusion."
> Me and my Firestar are both phatt
> What do I get if I win? :-)
>
> Gene
>
> On Aug 18, 2007, at 5:54 PM, Richard Pike wrote:
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>> Will you be there Gene?
>> Of course, I would want Travis on the ground if I was matched
>> against your Firestar...
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>> Richard Pike
>> MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
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