---------------------------------------------------------- Kolb-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Wed 08/22/07: 15 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 05:04 AM - Re: Ultrastar concerns / questions (N27SB@aol.com) 2. 10:29 AM - EZ in Roatan, not Kolb but kool (N27SB@AOL.com) 3. 10:33 AM - Re: EZ in Roatan, not Kolb but kool (N27SB@aol.com) 4. 01:44 PM - Re: Help to fix careless mistake (tomd) 5. 03:19 PM - e-mails (dshepherd) 6. 06:53 PM - Looking for Kolb training in Nevada/California/Utah area (clearprop) 7. 06:59 PM - Re: Re: Help to fix careless mistake (WhiskeyVictor36@aol.com) 8. 07:07 PM - Re: Looking for Kolb training in Nevada/California/Utah area (APilot@webtv.net) 9. 08:22 PM - Need Kolb M3X information please. (promod69camaro) 10. 08:54 PM - Re: Looking for Kolb training in Nevada/California/Utah area (clearprop) 11. 09:09 PM - Re: Re: Looking for Kolb training in Nevada/California/Utah area (APilot@webtv.net) 12. 09:13 PM - Re: Need Kolb M3X information please. (APilot@webtv.net) 13. 09:58 PM - Re: Need Kolb M3X information please. (JetPilot) 14. 10:09 PM - Re: 447 fuel line, again (JetPilot) 15. 11:15 PM - Re: Need Kolb M3X information please. (lucien) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 05:04:22 AM PST US From: N27SB@aol.com Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Ultrastar concerns / questions In a message dated 8/21/2007 6:54:02 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, d-m-hague@comcast.net writes: 1. When I pick up the wing struts and tip them back and forth, something (sounds like very small particles) rattles back and forth. I'm guessing it's drill chips from the rivet holes, or perhaps pop rivet stems? Should I be concerned? There doesn't seem to be any evidence of corrosion, and the plane has always been stored indoors as far as I'm aware. It's possible that the wing could have been re- covered in the past. If you hear a lot of pieces rattle then they are probably the remnants of drilled out rivets. Some builders will inject some covering adhesive to tack them in place. steve do not archive http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 10:29:12 AM PST US From: N27SB@AOL.com Subject: Kolb-List: EZ in Roatan, not Kolb but kool If you look close you will see my EZ caught by google while it was in Roatan steve do not archive http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 10:33:36 AM PST US From: N27SB@aol.com Subject: Re: Kolb-List: EZ in Roatan, not Kolb but kool OOPs, forgot the link http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&geocode=&q=roatan&sll=37.0625,-95.677068 &sspn=31.784549,65.302734&ie=UTF8&ll=16.316999,-86.527306&spn=0.002348,0.00398 6&t=k&z=18&iwloc=addr&om=1 steve do not archive http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 01:44:52 PM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Help to fix careless mistake From: "tomd" I have decided to replace 1 1/4" tube with 1 1/2". I will be using oversized rivets (5/32) for holes that are not salvageable but I have has good luck drilling out so far. I coated my rivet heads with primer which has had a unanticipated secondary benefit, holding the rivet heads from spinning as I drill them out. Thanks to all for your help with this temporary set back. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=130309#130309 ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 03:19:42 PM PST US From: "dshepherd" Subject: Kolb-List: e-mails ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 06:53:02 PM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Looking for Kolb training in Nevada/California/Utah area From: "clearprop" Looking for training in a Kolb MKIII in the greater Las Vegas area. Would consider looking outside Nevada to California or Utah. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=130365#130365 ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 06:59:53 PM PST US From: WhiskeyVictor36@aol.com Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Help to fix careless mistake In a message dated 8/22/2007 4:45:25 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, tpd47@earthlink.net writes: I coated my rivet heads with primer which has had a unanticipated secondary benefit, holding the rivet heads from spinning as I drill them out. tom d, Thanks for posting that advice. I have helped my buddy rebuild his wings/ailerons a couple of times now, and spinning rivets, while drilling them out, has always been a problem. Hopefully I'll remember this for the next time. Bill Varnes Original Kolb FireStar Audubon NJ Do Not Archive http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 07:07:44 PM PST US From: APilot@webtv.net Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Looking for Kolb training in Nevada/California/Utah area I might consider it. How much do you weigh? I live in Sacramento. Vic Gibson ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 08:22:33 PM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Need Kolb M3X information please. From: "promod69camaro" I have been researching light sport aircraft for about a year. I have flown in several types, but have not found the plane I want yet, that I can afford. I have flown in a Cessna 150, 152, 172, Evektor Sportstar, a Sonex, and a Titan Tornado 2S with a Rotax 912S. Under sport rules, I can't fly a Cessna GA plane. The Evektor is to expensive. The Sonex is a tight fit, slower build, and demands a premium right now. The Sonex also has a poor view out the front that bothered me. I like the Titan, but have not found one that I like yet that is for sale. The Titan is pretty quick and playful. Not as quick as a Sonex or Zenith 601, but close. I don't know how the Titan will do in an engine out landing in a ranch field. I know that none will do well if I land on a mesquite tree, but there are always roads through the fields as long as you can land slow enough to stay on them. I like the look of the Kolb M3X, and the way this groups members talk positive about them. I have been reading post, but have not found out what the max cruise speed is with a 100 hp motor? I know that not all planes feel comfortable at max cruise and have a comfortable cruise speed also, where the plane just likes to fly. What would that be in the M3X? Can you not roll or loop any of the Kolb planes? Are they as tough as the metal wing Titan Tornado? Since I know how the Titan flies, could someone please compare them for me? Thanks for your time. Shawn -------- Sport Pilot (almost) - Waiting for good weather to take flight exam. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=130392#130392 ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 08:54:46 PM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Looking for Kolb training in Nevada/California/Utah area From: "clearprop" 225 lbs. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=130401#130401 ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 09:09:32 PM PST US From: APilot@webtv.net Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Looking for Kolb training in Nevada/California/Utah area Not possible. Thanks for the reply ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 09:13:56 PM PST US From: APilot@webtv.net Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Need Kolb M3X information please. No comparison. Titan is more of a go-somewhere airplane with good speed and strength. Kolb is more fun. Some have been able to get them to go around 90 mph. I am lucky to get 70 with a 58 hp engine. But, it is the best of all airplanes at a slow cruise around 55-60. If it had a well designed fiberglass gear, it would be perfect. ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 09:58:55 PM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Need Kolb M3X information please. From: "JetPilot" My MK 3 Xtra is very happy crusing around 75 MPH. It will easily do 80 or more, but it seems to like the mid 70's, which is a nice low power setting on the Rotax 912-S, around 4600 RPM. The MK-3 is very stable, and I would NEVER try to roll it, it wont roll fast enough. The MK3 Xtra would be relaxing compared to a Titan, and a much better short field plane. The MK 3 Xtra has a lot of lift, and you will get bounced around a lot in turbulance. The Titan is much stronger, handles better in turbulance, and is faster, but requires much more of a longer and prepared runway. The Titan will also kill you if you dont fly it correctly, it can be spun by accident... The Kolb is much more forgiving, I have been teaching my wife stalls, and she has made every mistake you can think of and none resulted in a secondary stall, or more than a 15 degree bank. I can jerk the Kolb around like a drunk fool at very slow airspeeds and it has never done anything buy fly well. The Kolb is a little harder to land being a tail dragger, but thats the case with any tail dragger. Mike -------- "NO FEAR" - If you have no fear you did not go as fast as you could have !!! Kolb MK-III Xtra, 912-S Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=130407#130407 ________________________________ Message 14 ____________________________________ Time: 10:09:55 PM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Re: 447 fuel line, again From: "JetPilot" Some of the guys around here use fuel lines made for Boats, the marine fuel line is UV resistant, much better than the clear ultralight plastic type lines, much stronger, and well worth it at even 5 times the cost. When it comes to my plane, I would never try to save a few dollars for a fuel line that may deteriorate and leak over time. Mike -------- "NO FEAR" - If you have no fear you did not go as fast as you could have !!! Kolb MK-III Xtra, 912-S Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=130408#130408 ________________________________ Message 15 ____________________________________ Time: 11:15:33 PM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Need Kolb M3X information please. From: "lucien" JetPilot wrote: > The Titan will also kill you if you dont fly it correctly, it can be spun by accident... > Mike Could you elaborate on this statement? 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