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1. 04:23 AM - Re: Anodizing Aluminum (Jack B. Hart)
2. 05:28 AM - Firefly ultralight? (ELSA) (Lanny Fetterman)
3. 08:04 AM - Re: Re: ELSA (beauford T)
4. 10:17 AM - Re: ELT Installation (ropermike)
5. 10:28 AM - Engine Choice King Kolbra or Mklllxtra. (David Lucas)
6. 12:55 PM - Re: Engine Choice King Kolbra or Mklllxtra. (John Williamson)
7. 01:03 PM - Re: Engine Choice King Kolbra or Mklllxtra. (Richard & Martha Neilsen)
8. 01:47 PM - New Realtime Spell Checker Added To Matronics Forums! (Matt Dralle)
9. 01:59 PM - Re: Engine Choice King Kolbra or Mklllxtra. (Bob Noyer)
10. 02:37 PM - Re: Firefly ultralight? (ELSA) (N27SB@aol.com)
11. 05:22 PM - ELSA (Charles Davis)
12. 08:50 PM - Re: Did It Again. (JetPilot)
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| Subject: | Re: Anodizing Aluminum |
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How does it compare?
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Richard,
See:
http://www.matronics.com/rv-list/hovan/tips/AlAnDef.html
Jack B. Hart FF004
Winchester, IN
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| Subject: | Firefly ultralight? (ELSA) |
Hi all, Before sport pilot and 9-11, when the skies were more friendly to
unregistered fat ultralights. I was trying to decide if I should build
a Firefly to stay in the ultralight world legally, or a Firestar II and
fly fat. The day I decided to build a Firestar II was the day I talked to
Dennis and asked how difficult it was to build a Firefly that weighed less
than 254 lbs.
Dennis told me if I made any changes to the Firefly like larger wheels,
wheel pants or put too much paint on it when I painted it, the Firefly
would go over the 254 pound limit. I felt if I was going to fly a fat
Firefly at 255 lbs. I may as well fly an obese Firestar II at 350 lbs. as
the FAA would classify both as illegal unregistered aircraft if they were
rolled up on the scales.
It was asked why someone would register a Firefly ELSA, perhaps the paint
was applied too thick and the owner knows if the FAA puts it on the scales
it will weigh 255 lbs or more. Based on what I was told by Dennis, I wonder
how many Firefly ultralights can really make the 254 lbs. Lanny
Fetterman FSII
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> Why on earth would you register a firefly, keep it as an ultralight. Why
> pay more money to fly your plane. That makes no sence.
>
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One good reason, and the reason I ELSA registered my FireFly, is that I am
planning to have to relocate the Kolb and trailer to another airport when
the one I am currently using closes in about 15 months. Having an N-number
on the machine steps neatly around the "no-ultralights-allowed"
unpleasantness which is resident at the two fields to which I would be most
likely to move, as well as a number of others in the area which I might like
to visit.
The second reason is the "fat" and illegal issue already mentioned... The
Fly has 3 criss-cross coats of silver under the polytone (Florida sun), the
.035 "heavy" cage, brakes, 6-inch wheels, strobe, metal gap seal, etc... and
thus is about 16 lbs over the limit... I like it that way and would build it
that way again, but I see no percentage in twisting the government's tail...
over the long haul I don't have sufficient faith in the "don't worry, they
can't possibly enforce the rules" crowd to believe that there will never be
enforcement spasms of some sort at various FSDO's at some point in the
future...Having been a federal bureaucrat for a decade in a former life, I
have a keen appreciation for that peculiar mind-set and the fascinating
dynamics it can induce among credentialed zealots in the field. I'd just as
soon not play.
Ramp checks aside, a significant aspect of this has to be the inherent
tendency of the two-stroking Rotax brothers to stop talking to one another
at inconvenient times and in awkward places...Have had two off-airport
"experiences" so far.... If the FAA is going to pull my hard-earned
tickets, it will be because I flew inverted under a bridge someplace
laughing like hell, not because I abruptly arrived in some Wal-Mart parking
lot seated in a fat, unregistered, illegal airplane in front of a silent 447
Rotax. In other words, if the toy is capable of getting me honorable
mention on the 6 o'clock news, I'd just as soon have the paperwork straight.
...and for you worriers out there, there is always the life insurance
angle...."let me get this straight...you say he was killed while
intentionally breaking the law flying an illegal, overweight, unregistered
airplane....? ...er... we'll get back to you after we check the policy,
ma'am....."
...just a thought...worth what ye paid fer it...
Beauford
FF 076 / N173BW
Brandon, FL
DO NOT ARCHIVE
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| Subject: | Re: ELT Installation |
Thanks Dennis......I got a nice surprise yesterday when my ELT arrived from aircraft
spruce. The remote switch was included! I dont know why, but I was afraid
it didnt come with the elt and I would need to make another order. Thanks again,
Mike
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| Subject: | Engine Choice King Kolbra or Mklllxtra. |
Hi Kolbers,
Probably in the category of 'day-dreaming' here, but;
Do you think this engine could be adapted to either the King Kolbra or the Mklllxtra.
Power wise it would be OK (80 or 100HP versions), but I'm thinking of the
mounting details. Interference with or changes to the frame, wing mount points,
aileron control, etc. Specs, drawings and details are here I'd appreciate
some feedback from you 'been there, done that, got the T shirt' people.
Thanks, David.
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| Subject: | Re: Engine Choice King Kolbra or Mklllxtra. |
David,
A couple of things to think about:
-very large frontal area.
-higher than wanted thrust centerline unless the Kolb fuselage has major mods done.
-for use with unleaded fuel only.
-minimum 95 octane fuel, the highest I can get here is 93 octane.
-the weight at 126 lbs is good but does not include the muffler and might not include
the radiators.
I am a slow learner, but I wouldn't try to be the first again.
John Williamson
Arlington, TX
Kolb Kolbra, Rotax 912ULS, Warp Drive Prop, 1473 hours
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John Williamson
Arlington, TX
Kolbra, 912ULS
http://home.tx.rr.com/kolbrapilot
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| Subject: | Re: Engine Choice King Kolbra or Mklllxtra. |
Dave
What engine are you talking about?
Rick Neilsen
Redrive VW powered MKIIIC
----- Original Message -----
From: "David Lucas" <d_a_lucas@hotmail.com>
Sent: Saturday, September 08, 2007 1:28 PM
Subject: Kolb-List: Engine Choice King Kolbra or Mklllxtra.
>
> Hi Kolbers,
> Probably in the category of 'day-dreaming' here, but;
> Do you think this engine could be adapted to either the King Kolbra or the
> Mklllxtra. Power wise it would be OK (80 or 100HP versions), but I'm
> thinking of the mounting details. Interference with or changes to the
> frame, wing mount points, aileron control, etc. Specs, drawings and
> details are here I'd appreciate some feedback from you 'been there,
> done that, got the T shirt' people.
> Thanks, David.
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
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> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=133419#133419
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>
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| Subject: | New Realtime Spell Checker Added To Matronics Forums! |
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| Subject: | Re: Engine Choice King Kolbra or Mklllxtra. |
Clk on :http://www.ecofly.de/download/Manual_smart_Nov_2005.pdf
for candidate engine in Dave L.'s post.
regards,
Bob N. FireFly 070 Old Kolb
http://www.angelfire.com/rpg/ronoy/
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| Subject: | Re: Firefly ultralight? (ELSA) |
Lanny, It sounds like you got good advice, The Firefly can be built for
under 254 lbs but there is no room to add anything. My Firefly on floats comes
in at 337. That is a legal weight because of the floats and BRS. I for one
enjoy the freedom that Part 103 allows. As far as landing at airports that do
not like UL's, well I got no wheels.
Steve B
Firefly 007/Floats
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That's a valid question. The reasons are several, starting with the fact
that while close, my Firefly is not (was not!) a legit 103 vehicle. It was
30 lbs overweight, and I did not want to give up the larger wheels, brakes,
VSI, etc. Should there ever be an issue, I am now in the clear. Also,
given that the serial number is my own "CD-1" rather then the Kolb frame
serial number, it can be converted back to an ultralight by pulling off the
data plate and N number. No data plate, no airplane!
For me, with a desire to move up the certification ladder, having my own
airplane is useful in that I can now log all the hours I'll fly anyway.
Except for the 3 hours night training, I'll do everything I need for my
Private in my Firefly, and a lot cheaper! That's the beauty of the way the
regs were written. We can each choose the options that suite us best.
The inspector was Eugene Breiner, 717 776 7608.
Time: 06:32:38 PM PST US
Subject: Kolb-List: Re: ELSA
From: "jdmol2002" <jdmol2002@yahoo.com>
Why on earth would you register a firefly, keep it as an ultralight. Why pay
more
money to fly your plane. That makes no sence.
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| Subject: | Re: Did It Again. |
I have flown without a radio, lots of guys do. I really like having a radio for
traffic but it is not required, and if my radio is out for some reason, I still
fly.
As far as landing on a taxiway, that is a HUGE NO NO even for an ultralight. If
no one has said anything to you, consider yourself very lucky. There is no
exemption just because you are an ultralight, if an FAA guy or the wrong person
ever sees you take off or land on a taxiway, you will have major problems.
I cannot think of a better way to get very unwanted attention. We all stretch
the rules or even ignore them sometimes, but landing on a taxiway is not one
I would ever consider doing. That rates right up there with flying over the White
House, or buzzing the control tower [Wink]
Mike
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"NO FEAR" - If you have no fear you did not go as fast as you could
have !!!
Kolb MK-III Xtra, 912-S
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