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1. 01:25 AM - Re: Pilot operating handbook for an UltraStar (KolbFlyerJim@aol.com)
2. 05:15 AM - Re: Gap Seal (pat ladd)
3. 05:32 AM - bad vibes (robert bean)
4. 05:48 AM - Re: bad vibes (John Hauck)
5. 06:19 AM - Re: bad vibes (Vic Peters)
6. 07:14 AM - Re: Gap Seal (ElleryWeld@aol.com)
7. 07:24 AM - Re: bad vibes (ElleryWeld@aol.com)
8. 07:37 AM - Sep. 2007 Sport Aviation Photo (John Williamson)
9. 08:26 AM - Re: Sep. 2007 Sport Aviation Photo (N27SB@aol.com)
10. 08:28 AM - Re: Sep. 2007 Sport Aviation Photo (Richard & Martha Neilsen)
11. 09:35 AM - Re: Sep. 2007 Sport Aviation Photo (John Hauck)
12. 10:29 AM - What is the Difference btw a twinstar, mark II and Mark III? (grantr)
13. 12:06 PM - Re: Re: Gap Seal (possums)
14. 01:24 PM - Re: What is the Difference btw a twinstar, mark II and Mark III? (John Williamson)
15. 02:11 PM - Kolb Mark III For Sale (Steven Green)
16. 02:14 PM - strip (pat ladd)
17. 02:19 PM - Re: strip (N27SB@aol.com)
18. 04:15 PM - Re: bad vibes (KolbFlyerJim@aol.com)
19. 06:35 PM - Re: Firefly on Ebay (R. Hankins)
20. 06:58 PM - Re: Re: Firefly on Ebay (John Hauck)
21. 07:05 PM - Fourm (thumb)
22. 07:07 PM - Re: Re: Firefly on Ebay (John Hauck)
23. 07:30 PM - Re: Re: Firefly on Ebay (N27SB@aol.com)
24. 08:34 PM - Re: Fourm (Jim ODay)
25. 08:39 PM - Re: Gap Seal (Dana Hague)
26. 08:51 PM - Re: Gap Seal (Larry Cottrell)
27. 09:17 PM - Re: Firefly on Ebay (R. Hankins)
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| Subject: | Re: Pilot operating handbook for an UltraStar |
Hi Dana
IM N numbering because I have more than 5 gallons of fuel and over weight
Thanks Jim
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Hi,
re gap seals.
On my Challenger after a few times taking the gap seal off to oil the
control joints and check connections on DI and putting it on again I gave up
and never bothered to use it again. Never seemed to make a detectable
difference but then maybe I just ham handed.
The gap between the wingroots was about 10 inches.
Pat
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Kolbers, the vibration I previously reported, more like a buzz
sensation, when running at or about 5000 rpm
has revealed itself to be a harmonic involving the engine/prop/
redrive combination.
Not sure of the actual cause of the resonance but it hammers the prop
shaft bearings,
causing the stack to lose its preload. Preflight two nights ago
revealed a somewhat
unairworthy condition.
As long as I stay away from that rpm I have no problem , but because
of the gain in performance
I have in going over 48-4900 I find that unacceptable.
I'm installing all new shaft bearings and will try another prop, a
two blade configuration
70" warp to see if there is any difference.
BB
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> Kolbers, the vibration I previously reported, more like a buzz
> sensation, when running at or about 5000 rpm
> has revealed itself to be a harmonic involving the engine/prop/ redrive
> combination.
> > BB
Morning Bob:
Sorry to hear about the harmonic problem. However, what little I am
familiar with the Suzuki/Geo Metro engines on light planes, seems to
indicate most have harmonic vibration and torsional vibration problems. I
don't know what the answer is, but hope you get it worked out.
john h
mkIII
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All
I also have an annoying, not sure how serious vibe when throttling back from
full power around 4200 RPM. It smooths right out below 4000. Doesn't do it
powering up.
912UL 70" warp, little to much pitch.
What should I look for?
By the way I,ve seen Ellery fly up close and real personal.
I'm convinced he could fly a washing machine with a window fan for power!
Vic
Maine
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I Fly an Original Firestar but I have flown the Firefly and the Mk3Xtra I
think they all fly real similar to one another
the original Firestar and Firefly you have to put left Rudder input with
quick excelleration and the Mk3 Xtra You have to put a whole boot full of Right
Rudder on take off because of Prop rotation
Ellery in Maine
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Vic it will be interesting what the list comes up with for an answer on that
Vibration but it shure would be nice to remove it so any replys to vics
Vibration would be nice
and another Question Concerning the Mk3 Xtra does anyone elses Mk3 Xtra take
off like a side winder Pulling to the left ?
Ellery in Maine
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| Subject: | Sep. 2007 Sport Aviation Photo |
Hi All,
Nothing has been said about one of our own having a picture of his VW powered Kolb
MarkIII Classic and him in the September 2007 issue of the EAA Sport Aviation
magazine.
Well done Rick. I know that you were reading the FARs.
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John Williamson
Arlington, TX
Kolbra, 912ULS
http://home.tx.rr.com/kolbrapilot
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| Subject: | Re: Sep. 2007 Sport Aviation Photo |
You are right, page 54.
With that table cloth over his MKIII it is hard to spot
Steve
Firefly 007/Floats
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| Subject: | Re: Sep. 2007 Sport Aviation Photo |
John
Thanks. I missed it. After your post I went through my copy and sure enough
it is me reading a good book. I read the FARs at bed time to put me to
sleep.
What the photo doesn't show is the lack of planes in the camp ground. Rough
ground, high prices, no services, few venders, harassment they keep it up
and I'll be camping there by myself.
Rick Neilsen
Redrive VW powered MKIIIC
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From: "John Williamson" <kolbrapilot1@tx.rr.com>
Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2007 10:37 AM
Subject: Kolb-List: Sep. 2007 Sport Aviation Photo
> <kolbrapilot1@tx.rr.com>
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> Hi All,
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> Nothing has been said about one of our own having a picture of his VW
> powered Kolb MarkIII Classic and him in the September 2007 issue of the
> EAA Sport Aviation magazine.
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> Well done Rick. I know that you were reading the FARs.
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> John Williamson
> Arlington, TX
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> Kolbra, 912ULS
> http://home.tx.rr.com/kolbrapilot
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| Subject: | Re: Sep. 2007 Sport Aviation Photo |
> Nothing has been said about one of our own having a picture of his VW
powered Kolb MarkIII Classic and him in the September 2007 issue of the EAA
Sport Aviation magazine.
> John Williamson
Hi John W:
Well, I didn't say anything about Rick's photo cause I missed it when I read
my Sport Avn Mag.
I can attest to the fact that Rick was studying his FAR's and Kolb MKIII
Handbook. I was camped right next door to him.
john h
mkIII
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| Subject: | What is the Difference btw a twinstar, mark II and Mark III? |
Will some one tell me what the difference is between the Kolb Twinstar, mark II
and Mark III models?
What year these were made and the main differences.
Thanks,
Grant
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At 11:15 PM 9/17/2007, you wrote:
>
>John H says: "Some low time Kolb pilots don't know the difference
>between a good flying
>Kolb and one that flies like a dog. "
>
>The bottom is OPEN. The leading edge is formed aluminum and that
>extends about 12" back, but then it is open all the way to the rear.
>
>My question is about the open bottom. I saw it quite a challenge to
>build the bottom section around the BRS, and it got harder the
>further back I went. I figured the the top was the most important
>and I could skip the bottom.
>
>Does an open bottom gap seal = a "dog" Kolb?
The bottom on mine is open and just slides into the tracks on the end of
the wings, held by two screws on the front. Flys fine.
It's not as wide as a Mark III gap seal would be, so I don't know about those.
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| Subject: | Re: What is the Difference btw a twinstar, mark II and Mark |
III?
Hi Grant and All,
This .pdf file is a short history of the Kolb line of aircraft. It might answer
a few of your questions.
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John Williamson
Arlington, TX
Kolbra, 912ULS
http://home.tx.rr.com/kolbrapilot
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| Subject: | Kolb Mark III For Sale |
I have decided to put my Mark III up for sale.
The plane has 515 hrs on it. The engine about 460. I purchased the kits
in 1999 and completed in Jan. 2001
Factory Options:
Powder coating
Dual hydraulic brakes
BRS 1050
Dual Magnum strobes
Covering kit
Engine/Prop:
912S
SS exhaust
Ivo Medium 2 blade prop
Other accessories:
Custom fabricated 20 gal fuel tank
Wing fold dolly and accessories
Full enclosure
EIS with built-in altimeter
ELT
Price $29,500
The attached picture was made when I had a 582 engine.
I plan to be at TNK homecoming
Steven Green
423-263-1614
Etowah, TN
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In case anyone is interested.
Poking round on Google I found my strip. Farmer had obviously mowed the
grass as it all looks nice and neat. My hangar is the T hangar at the
edge of the field, with the barn which I managed to drive into close by.
All the other a/c are tucked away in the farm buildings.
Try 51 21 45.37 N
2 12`19.33 W
Cheers
Pat
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Pat, while you are looking at the google page you can cut and paste the
whole address and post a link.
makes it easy to find.
Steve
Firefly 007/Floats
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Hi BB
Jim here
May I ask what ratio you have in the gear box?
Jim
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| Subject: | Re: Firefly on Ebay |
Kolb historians:
I've never seen an original firestar up close. The fuselage cage shown on E-bay
is very different than the one on my KXP. Was the original Firestar that different,
or is this one modified?
Thanks,
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Roger in Oregon
1992 KXP 503
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| Subject: | Re: Firefly on Ebay |
> I've never seen an original firestar up close. The fuselage cage shown
on E-bay is very different than the one on my KXP. Was the original
Firestar that different, or is this one modified?
> Roger in Oregon
Roger:
The "contraption" on EBAY being advertised as a Kolb Firestar is not one.
The only thing Kolb about it is the plans.
Should send the seller a note that he is falsely advertising.
One of the photos is the Kolb Company Firefly. The pilot is me at Sun and
Fun, Lakeland. Forget what year that was.
The guy selling Don G's old Firefly also used file photos of me flying the
factory Firefly.
john h
mkIII
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Hey Guy's....
I have seen a forum that you have a passenger sign which
releases you from any liability, Does any of you have a copy of that
forum ? Could you e-mail it to me off list.
Thanks
Bill Futrell
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| Subject: | Re: Firefly on Ebay |
> Should send the seller a note that he is falsely advertising.
>
> john h
Roger:
I sent the seller a note explaining he did not have a Kolb Firestar for
sale, only Kolb Firestar plans.
john h
mkIII
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| Subject: | Re: Firefly on Ebay |
Looks like a CGS Hawk
Steve B
Firefly 007/Floats
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Bill:
I think the form is called a Death Certificate (yours).
All kidding aside, it is helpful (your death certificate), but will not keep your
estate out of court. The best scenario is to have $0 in Assets or buy the
highest limits of insurance you can afford for liability. Leave them on the ground
if you do not have that covered.
I have one of those "release" forms someplace, I will try to find it and post it.
I really do not think it would keep me out of court, so I have not used it.
I think if you look at the Young Eagles site, there may be some language that
may be helpful too.
Jim
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Jim O'Day
Fargo, ND
Firestar II
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At 11:12 PM 9/17/2007, Richard Girard wrote:
>...With a gap seal, you have two wing tip vortices, without, you have
>four. On top of that the two inner vortices interfere with each other by
>spinning in opposite directions.
>The two wings flying side by side have half the aspect ratio of the full
>wing so a much larger percentage of each wing is involved in spanwise
>flow. The net result is not just more than twice the induced drag, but a
>significant reduction in lift, too.
I don't think you'd have twice the induced drag, the vortices going in
opposite direction would tend to cancel each other out, somewhat... but I
can see that it still could be signfiicant. More significant, perhaps, may
be the disturbance of the airflow over the tail and/or through the prop
(the latter may be more significant on the low boom Kolbs than on my US
with its prop completely under the wing).
What's odd is the number of people who say it makes no difference at all?
Anyway, I figure it's worth putting it on... once I get familiar with the
plane I might try it without it to see the difference.
My thought is to use .040" clear vinyl sheet, velcroed to the wings and
wrapping all the way around, and secured with cords where it breaks for the
cage structure. Quick and easy, and since it wraps all the way around and
attaches to itself, no chance of it coming off and going through the
prop. Comments?
-Dana
--
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"Calvin, we will not have an anatomically correct snowman!"
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> What's odd is the number of people who say it makes no difference at all?
>
> Anyway, I figure it's worth putting it on... once I get familiar with the
> plane I might try it without it to see the difference.
I find it odd that people say that it makes no difference as well. I have
flown Mark III with gap seal ( mine) and another when I was getting my
Ultralight pilots lic with no gap seal and the one with no seal flew like a
dog. It was a bear to land, stall was about 60 or more with flaps. I
attempted to try to convince the guy to put one on. He would not. I believe
it is scrap parts now.
Larry C
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| Subject: | Re: Firefly on Ebay |
Thanks for the confirmation. My first inclination was to send the guy a nastygram,
but just in case, I thought I would check with the list first. I was thinking
CGS Hawk as well, what with the ugly nose. They always remind me of an
old sore head salmon. The wing roots in the ad look strange as well.
Sleep deprived, but enjoying being a dad.
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Roger in Oregon
1992 KXP 503
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