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Sat 09/22/07


Total Messages Posted: 20



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     1. 04:41 AM - MKIIIX weld yourself cage kit? (Tom Deiulio)
     2. 04:51 AM - Re: Wing Support Brackets (Thom Riddle)
     3. 05:11 AM - Re: MKIIIX weld yourself cage kit? (N27SB@aol.com)
     4. 05:35 AM - Re: Re: Wing Support Brackets (chris davis)
     5. 05:44 AM - Safe Loading Without Leading Edge Damage (Travis Brown (Kolb Aircraft))
     6. 06:18 AM - ADIZ Helicopter interception (WillUribe@aol.com)
     7. 06:41 AM - Re: Gap Seal (Wade Lawicki)
     8. 07:26 AM - Re: Safe Loading Without Leading Edge Damage (Vic Peters)
     9. 08:59 AM - Superb Kolb MK III for sale ... (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?No=EBl_Bouchard?=)
    10. 11:44 AM - Re: Superb Kolb MK III for sale ... (Brettbernardo@aol.com)
    11. 12:34 PM - Re: Safe Loading Without Leading Edge Damage (Steve Spence)
    12. 02:32 PM - Re: MKIIIX weld yourself cage kit? (tomd)
    13. 02:53 PM - Re: Re: MKIIIX weld yourself cage kit? (John Hauck)
    14. 05:29 PM - Re: MKIIIX weld yourself cage kit? (Rick Lewis)
    15. 06:04 PM - Re: ADIZ Helicopter interception (Richard Girard)
    16. 06:51 PM - Re: ADIZ Helicopter interception (WillUribe@aol.com)
    17. 06:54 PM - Re: Re: MKIIIX weld yourself cage kit? ()
    18. 07:04 PM - Re: ADIZ Helicopter interception (Richard Girard)
    19. 07:13 PM - primer pump question (Arksey@aol.com)
    20. 07:52 PM - Re: Re: Gap Seal (Dana Hague)
 
 
 


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    Time: 04:41:33 AM PST US
    From: "Tom Deiulio" <tpd47@earthlink.net>
    Subject: MKIIIX weld yourself cage kit?
    Has anyone ever contacted Kolb to request that the MKIIIX cage be made available in a weld it yourself form? Say with stock length 4130 tubing and necessary plans to complete the job at a significant savings. I welded up a WagAero Sportsman fuselage and had fun doing it. I've read a few threads on substandard welds from the factory so I would like to do just the whole thing myself. I highly doubt they would go for this but I wondered if there was an history on the topic. Thanks.


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    Time: 04:51:14 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Wing Support Brackets
    From: "Thom Riddle" <riddletr@gmail.com>
    Dana, Either way saves several minutes from the folding/unfolding process, which is important if it is done every flight. Since I have plenty of unused overhead space and limited lateral space with the other airplane in the hangar, I went up instead of out. -------- Thom in Buffalo N221FA Allegro 2000 912UL N197BG FS1/447 -------------------- &quot;Setting an example is not the main means of influencing another, it is the only means.&quot; Albert Einstein Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=135732#135732


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    Time: 05:11:25 AM PST US
    From: N27SB@aol.com
    Subject: Re: MKIIIX weld yourself cage kit?
    The factory fuselage is assembled and welded while in an elaborate jig, It may be difficult to do yourself. Steve B Firefly 007/Floats do not archive


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    Time: 05:35:53 AM PST US
    From: chris davis <capedavis@yahoo.com>
    Subject: Re: Wing Support Brackets
    Thom Good idea I spent several years folding and unfolding my KXP and the m ost time consuming and the most chance of an assembly error was in the tail and especially the botom cables so I can see the advantage to your method ! Chris =0A=0A=0A=0A----- Original Message ----=0AFrom: Thom Riddle <riddle tr@gmail.com>=0ATo: kolb-list@matronics.com=0ASent: Saturday, September 22, 2007 7:50:59 AM=0ASubject: Kolb-List: Re: Wing Support Brackets=0A=0A=0A-- ,=0A=0AEither way saves several minutes from the folding/unfolding process, which is important if it is done every flight. Since I have plenty of unus ed overhead space and limited lateral space with the other airplane in the hangar, I went up instead of out.=0A=0A--------=0AThom in Buffalo=0AN221FA Allegro 2000 912UL=0AN197BG FS1/447=0A--------------------=0A&quot;Setting an example is not the main means of influencing another, it is the only mea ns.&quot;=0AAlbert Einstein=0A=0A=0A=0A=0ARead this topic online here:=0A =0Ahttp://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=135732#135732=0A=0A=0A=0A ===0A=0A=0A =0A__________________________________________________ __________________________________=0ABuilding a website is a piece of cake. lbusiness.yahoo.com/webhosting


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    Time: 05:44:43 AM PST US
    From: "Travis Brown (Kolb Aircraft)" <travis@tnkolbaircraft.com>
    Subject: Safe Loading Without Leading Edge Damage
    ----- Original Message ----- From: Vic Peters To: Kolb list Sent: Friday, September 21, 2007 5:28 PM Subject: Kolb-List: Newborn Pics Hope there not too big. I croped and optimized best I could. Tony, I have wing & boom support for my trailer. Kind of over done. I'll post a pic soon as I unfold again. I can't seem to find a way to load or unload without hitting the wings on the trailer part way on. I pretty much coppied a trailer posted on list that loads tailfirst with a track for the tail wheel. Loading wings open is ok cause its easier to unpin and fold without all that bending over. I cant open them in my driveway each time. No room and doudle the work just to travel a mile to taxie, which is all I can do right now and not very well at that. Vic Maine Do not archive


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    Time: 06:18:30 AM PST US
    From: WillUribe@aol.com
    Subject: ADIZ Helicopter interception
    This is what happens when you let your buddy fly your FireStar.


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    Time: 06:41:25 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Gap Seal
    From: "Wade Lawicki" <wlawicki@yahoo.com>
    Group, We "HAD" an Ultra Star pilot argue the same point 2 years ago in Tullahoma Tn. at a large event. he thought it was not needed, crashed in front of hundreds of spectators Dying in a very gruesome way as when his BRS handle hooked on the tree he impacted, the rocket went off with the cable around his neck, or where his neck used to be!! Do as you will but, its not worth saving a couple of minutes of setup time and playing test pilot. I apologize if this sounds harsh but, the sight of that will never leave my mind. Fly Safe, Wade Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=135745#135745


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    Time: 07:26:26 AM PST US
    From: "Vic Peters" <vicsvinyl@verizon.net>
    Subject: Re: Safe Loading Without Leading Edge Damage
    Hey thats a nice dolly Travis. My problem is the root end or inboard of the wing leading edge hitting. I need a way to keep the load -unload ramps in line with the trailer bed. (longer legs?) Not wider just higher. whats the average stance with steel legs outside tire to tire? Thanks Vic Maine


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    Time: 08:59:03 AM PST US
    From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?No=EBl_Bouchard?= <noelbou@vif.com>
    Subject: Superb Kolb MK III for sale ...
    Hello all Please allow me to send this 'ad' for a friend of mine who have decided to sell it's very nice Kolb MK III. I don't have all the detais but here are few things: MK III with Rotax 912 and Total time ~ 120 Hrs. Very well built and cared for ... All instruments + EIS electonic 'gauges' The plane is located near Montreal, Canada. Price: $32000 +-----------------------------------------------------------+ Contacts: Alain (cell) 450 602 3750 Or ask your question here and will contact one of the 2 owners and will try to get back here with an answer ... Have a very nice day ! Nel Bouchard (owner of a Kolb Twinstar MK II)


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    Time: 11:44:20 AM PST US
    From: Brettbernardo@aol.com
    Subject: Re: Superb Kolb MK III for sale ...
    Noel is this a Mark 3 classic or extra? Thanks Brett


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    Time: 12:34:19 PM PST US
    From: "Steve Spence" <sspence801@sbcglobal.net>
    Subject: Re: Safe Loading Without Leading Edge Damage
    Vic: I had same problem with my Firefly when I trailered it. Dennis Souder suggested that I crank up trailer tongue as high as possible. That seemed to work for me as it flattened incline from trailer bed to ramp. Steve Spence M3Xtra/912-S Auburn Hills, MI ----- Original Message ----- From: Vic Peters To: kolb-list@matronics.com Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2007 10:25 AM Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Safe Loading Without Leading Edge Damage Hey thats a nice dolly Travis. My problem is the root end or inboard of the wing leading edge hitting. I need a way to keep the load -unload ramps in line with the trailer bed. (longer legs?) Not wider just higher. whats the average stance with steel legs outside tire to tire? Thanks Vic Maine


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    Time: 02:32:30 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: MKIIIX weld yourself cage kit?
    From: "tomd" <tpd47@earthlink.net>
    As long as I have the dimensions I can build adequate jigs out wood. Thin wall 4130 is not hard to weld. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=135803#135803


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    Time: 02:53:09 PM PST US
    From: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
    Subject: Re: MKIIIX weld yourself cage kit?
    Subject: Kolb-List: Re: MKIIIX weld yourself cage kit? > As long as I have the dimensions I can build adequate jigs out wood. Thin wall 4130 is not hard to weld. tomd: Why copy someone else's work? If you are that good, you should design your own airplane. I think it is safe to say, most folks on the Kolb List bought their kits, either from TNK, Old Kolb, or a private owner. We, for the most part, do our share by supporting TNK. It is a very small company with less than a hand full of employees. Without TNK, Kolbs would soon become extent. I have been a Kolb owner and builder for more than 23 years. Maybe I can fly Kolbs another 23 years if I support TNK. Take care, john h mkIII - 2,700+ hours 912ULS - 140.5 hours


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    Time: 05:29:34 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: MKIIIX weld yourself cage kit?
    From: "Rick Lewis" <cktman@hughes.net>
    I'm not sure about any previous welder they may have had but I can tell you one thing for sure, there present welder is superb. The jigging used in the cage is complex and very rigid and I expect all cages are pretty close to identical. I am pretty good myself at tig and mig welding but it would be hard for me to consistently make the quality welds Dennis does. The only reason I might want to tackle the job would be the challenge not to save money. The Plane kit is already reasonably priced and I'm sure there really not making a killing. If anyone really would like to save money on ther MKIII put a VW Engine on it instead of the Rotax. :D Rick Lewis Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=135821#135821


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    Time: 06:04:09 PM PST US
    From: "Richard Girard" <jindoguy@gmail.com>
    Subject: Re: ADIZ Helicopter interception
    Will, How about some info about this pic? I take it from the Smiley face that the comment is tongue in cheek, but it sure is interesting. Rick On 9/22/07, WillUribe@aol.com <WillUribe@aol.com> wrote: > > This is what happens when you let your buddy fly your FireStar. > > > ------------------------------ > Make AOL Your Homepage. > -- Rick Girard "Ya'll drop on in" takes on a whole new meaning when you live at the airport.


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    Time: 06:51:08 PM PST US
    From: WillUribe@aol.com
    Subject: ADIZ Helicopter interception
    Hi Rick, Here is the message that came with the picture. "Thanks for letting borrow your plane! Got a little lost, but these nice people found me Sorry, but I think they got your tail number showed up later at your hanger, but I told them you fled! Not sure they believe me, as there is a large black SUV with short antennas parked nearby with a couple of G-man types watching for your return. Regards, Dave" From: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Richard Girard Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2007 7:02 PM Subject: Re: Kolb-List: ADIZ Helicopter interception Will, How about some info about this pic? I take it from the Smiley face that the comment is tongue in cheek, but it sure is interesting. Rick


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    Time: 06:54:24 PM PST US
    From: <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
    Subject: Re: MKIIIX weld yourself cage kit?
    ---- Rick Lewis <cktman@hughes.net> wrote: If anyone really would like to save money on ther MKIII put a VW Engine on it instead of the Rotax. :D > > Rick Lewis Rick L: Would that be the only reason to put a VW engine on a MKIII? john h mkIII


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    Time: 07:04:40 PM PST US
    From: "Richard Girard" <jindoguy@gmail.com>
    Subject: Re: ADIZ Helicopter interception
    Will, Ain't it great to have friends? Well, Blackwater is going to need something to do, now. Have you considered getting a piss poor black beard and one of those AK-47 pellet guns? That'll make you extra popular. For the carnivore guys. It's a joke, a joke, honest. You know, makes you smile, maybe even chuckle. Rick On 9/22/07, WillUribe@aol.com <WillUribe@aol.com> wrote: > > > Hi Rick, > Here is the message that came with the picture. > > "Thanks for letting borrow your plane! Got a little lost, but these nice > people found me > Sorry, but I think they got your tail number showed up later at your > hanger, but I told them you fled! Not sure they believe me, as there is a > large black SUV with short antennas parked nearby with a couple of G-man > types watching for your return. > Regards, > Dave" > > > *From:* owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com [mailto: > owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com] *On Behalf Of *Richard Girard > *Sent:* Saturday, September 22, 2007 7:02 PM > *To:* kolb-list@matronics.com > *Subject:* Re: Kolb-List: ADIZ Helicopter interception > > > Will, How about some info about this pic? I take it from the Smiley face > that the comment is tongue in cheek, but it sure is interesting. > > Rick > > > ------------------------------ > Make AOL Your Homepage. > > * > > > * > > -- Rick Girard "Ya'll drop on in" takes on a whole new meaning when you live at the airport.


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    Time: 07:13:33 PM PST US
    From: Arksey@aol.com
    Subject: primer pump question
    Hello gang, I have a question about the primer pump. I am getting a slight leak around the shaft when i am priming the engine. It seems to me that any leak could also be considered to be a air leak and reduce the pumping ability of the pulse pump. The primer pump is the type sold by most of the suppliers to the ultra light market and cost about $20.00. Because of this I am running the elec. pump all the time until i replace it. What are your thoughts about the primer pump leaks causing poor pump action? thanks in advance....Jim Swan FIRESTAR ll 503 rotax N663S michigan do not archive


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    Time: 07:52:31 PM PST US
    From: Dana Hague <d-m-hague@comcast.net>
    Subject: Re: Gap Seal
    At 09:40 AM 9/22/2007, Wade Lawicki wrote: > >Group, > We "HAD" an Ultra Star pilot argue the same point 2 years ago > in Tullahoma Tn. at a large event. he thought it was not needed, crashed > in front of hundreds of spectators... Well, I went ahead and made one for mine last night, why take chances? .040" clear vinyl held on with 2" heavy duty velcro; it actually came out quite nice. I haven't actually flown with it yet (other than one short crow hop; it was too windy) but it seems to be holding on just fine. -Dana -- -- "I'm a lawyer." "Honest?" "No, the usual kind."




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