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1. 03:53 AM - space (pat ladd)
2. 04:36 AM - Re: space (Richard Pike)
3. 05:05 AM - Re: MKIIIX weld yourself cage kit? (Thom Riddle)
4. 06:22 AM - Re: Gap Seal (cristalclear13)
5. 06:33 AM - Re: ADIZ Helicopter interception (WillUribe@aol.com)
6. 06:34 AM - Re: Re: Gap Seal (herbgh@juno.com)
7. 06:36 AM - Re: ELT Installation (cristalclear13)
8. 06:47 AM - Re: Ailerons 101 (Jack B. Hart)
9. 06:58 AM - Re: space (Vic Peters)
10. 07:28 AM - Re: Re: Gap Seal (beauford T)
11. 08:38 AM - Re: Re: Gap Seal (John Hauck)
12. 09:00 AM - Re: Ailerons 101 (Mike Welch)
13. 10:21 AM - Re: Ailerons 101 (Richard Girard)
14. 10:45 AM - Re: Ailerons 101 (Mike Welch)
15. 12:05 PM - Re: Ailerons 101 (Larry Bourne)
16. 06:46 PM - I finally flew it! (Dana Hague)
17. 07:06 PM - Re: Gap Seal (cristalclear13)
18. 07:11 PM - Re: Ailerons 101 (Richard Girard)
19. 07:14 PM - Re: I finally flew it! (Richard Girard)
20. 07:19 PM - Re: Re: Gap Seal (Dana Hague)
21. 07:20 PM - Ultrastar tailwheel (Dana Hague)
22. 07:24 PM - Re: I finally flew it! (Dana Hague)
23. 07:31 PM - Re: I finally flew it! (Dana Hague)
24. 07:32 PM - Re: Re: Gap Seal (HShack@aol.com)
25. 08:21 PM - Re: Re: Gap Seal (beauford T)
26. 10:09 PM - gap seal (boyd)
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Hi All,
Anyone with an Xtra with the standard insrument console.
Where do you put radios, GPS etc.?
I have the small Pilot 3 GPS on top of the console. The obvious place to
put a hand held radio is either fixed to the centre arm rest or strap it
to your knee. I have a small interface block for the headsets
temporarily taped to the back end of the armrest.
What have other people done? The great visibility from the Kolb is fine
but it does limit the `wall space` for fixing othere items, map holders,
sweets etc.
Bright ideas anyone?
Cheers
Pat
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You can actually attach things to the "wall" as here:
http://www.bcchapel.org/pages/0003/Radios%20%26%20GPS.html
Richard Pike
MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
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From: pat ladd
To: kolb-list@matronics.com
Sent: Sunday, September 23, 2007 6:53 AM
Subject: Kolb-List: space
Hi All,
Anyone with an Xtra with the standard insrument console.
Where do you put radios, GPS etc.?
I have the small Pilot 3 GPS on top of the console. The obvious place
to put a hand held radio is either fixed to the centre arm rest or strap
it to your knee. I have a small interface block for the headsets
temporarily taped to the back end of the armrest.
What have other people done? The great visibility from the Kolb is
fine but it does limit the `wall space` for fixing othere items, map
holders, sweets etc.
Bright ideas anyone?
Cheers
Pat
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Subject: | Re: MKIIIX weld yourself cage kit? |
John H,
With all due respect to your position as probably the guy with most Kolb flying
hours, tomd's request for information about the possibility of getting a kit
of materials and detailed dimensions for welding his own, does not demonstrate
a "lack of support" for TNK. It was a legitimate question that deserves a straighforward
answer.
Also, "why not design your own plane" has nothing to do with welding up a fuselage
from good drawings. Being a retired engineer, I could probably design my own
plane that would fly but it would probably handle poorly and be a lot heavier
than necessary. I could also make excellent drawings for others to to build
it from, if they were stupid enough to try. But I'd have trouble getting two
pieces of metal to stick together with my extremely limited welding experience.
The two skill sets have nothing to do with each other.
I don't mean to start a pissing match. But tomd's request does not deserve the
kind of response you gave it.
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New Kolb Mark II owner here. Can you guys take a look at the picture I've attached
and tell me if you've seen a gap seal like the one I have? It is some kind
of cloth (I don't know what). It is velcroed onto the wings. Is that safe?
Cristal
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Subject: | Re: ADIZ Helicopter interception |
And now the rest of the story;
My FireStar was part of a multi-agency homeland security exercise over the
missile firing range in New Mexico. For the week long exercise, Dave flew it
for about 25 hours, 4 of them at night. All I can say about that is the
FireStar performed without any problems. Dave flew all his required mission and
all IP runs were made on time. Some days were flying thru some of the worst
turbulence or around thunderstorms. The only thing I have to mend is a tare
on the gap seal, the Velcro glue was old and got loose during one of the
flights.
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Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2007 7:02 PM
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: ADIZ Helicopter interception
Will, How about some info about this pic? I take it from the Smiley face
that the comment is tongue in cheek, but it sure is interesting.
Rick
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Cristal
The Kolb Firefly uses the same or similar gap seal.. Canvas or heavy
cloth with velcro... The velcro that is attached to the wing roots comes
unglued in short order...on mine anyway... Herb
On Sun, 23 Sep 2007 06:21:34 -0700 "cristalclear13"
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> <cristalclearwaters@juno.com>
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> New Kolb Mark II owner here. Can you guys take a look at the
> picture I've attached and tell me if you've seen a gap seal like the
> one I have? It is some kind of cloth (I don't know what). It is
> velcroed onto the wings. Is that safe?
>
> Cristal
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Subject: | Re: ELT Installation |
Hi Mike. I am currently at where you where at a couple weeks ago. I have an MKII
also and I need to know where to mount the ELT. I have the same ELT you do.
Did you get yours installed? Do you have a picture of where you put it?
Also I'm wondering where you put your colored markings on your airspeed. Do you
have those V-numbers?
Cristal
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Subject: | Re: Ailerons 101 |
At 03:21 PM 9/19/07 -0500, you wrote:
>
>
>As an added note reference aileron flutter. Some folks think the problem
>lies with lose control linkage, hinges, pivot points, etc. Not so. The
>problem lies with big ailerons that are hinged from the leading edge and not
>balanced. Once the aileron is balanced, it flies through the air, smooth or
>rough, as slick as a whistle.
>
John, & Kolbers
The root cause of aileron flutter is the lack of wing stiffness. Due to the
fact that the wing can and does flex during flight in response to passing
through unstable air and or roll control movement, it causes the wing to
twist chord wise with the most of the movement taking place at the
unsupported outer wing tip. By doing so this tries to whip the aileron up
and down. The balancing of the aileron puts a mass ahead of the hinge equal
to aileron mass behind the hinge line and so the aileron will bounce up and
down but will not twist about the hinge due to wing twisting.
If you would like to read more about this, Google - 'NACA "aileron flutter"'
Jack B. Hart FF004
Winchester, IN
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Pat, what armrest?
Vic
Maine
MKIIIX
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Brother (Brothette?) Cristal:
Per your question... I don't believe safety is necessarily the issue with
the nylon seal. However, I had unsatisfactory results with the Kolb
factory-provided rip-stop nylon gap seal which came in the Firefly kit... It
never actually came off, but despite my re-velcroing efforts on the aft end,
the trailing edges gradually feathered out and shredded in the slipstream
until it eventually became an unsightly mess after about 50 hours. The last
time I flew with it installed, I learned a bonus lesson about nylon and
various hot Rotax Brothers components, particularly, the exhaust... The tiny
nylon fuzz instantly melts and bakes onto every hot surface with which it
comes into contact... and the low-pressure turbulent areas behind the BRS
cannister did a superb job of sucking that little cloud of nylon thread
particles back forward enough to give a really nice spattering effect on
parts well forward of the shredding areas further aft....
Once baked on there, it took a delightful scotchbrite and sandpaper weekend
before I finally got all of that crap off the engine.
I would use asphalt roofing shingles for a gap seal before I would put
another one of those nylon thingys
on my airplane... It now has an aluminum seal, heavy velcro at the front,
bungees at the rear... 90 or so hours on the thing... no problems.... yet...
Worth what ye paid fer it...
Beauford
FF-076 / N173BW
Brandon, FL
<cristalclearwaters@juno.com>
New Kolb Mark II owner here. Can you guys take a look at the picture I've
attached and tell me if you've seen a gap seal like the one I have? It is
some kind of cloth (I don't know what). It is velcroed onto the wings. Is
that safe?
Cristal
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> I would use asphalt roofing shingles for a gap seal before I would put
> another one of those nylon thingys
> on my airplane...
>
> Beauford
Bill:
Got to admit, that nylon is light in weight.
On the other hand, asphalt shingles are a good idea. Especially the ones
you all use in Florida. GAF has some rated for 110 mph, well above the vne
for a FF. As a matter of fact, they also have some 80 mph shingles, but
there is always the chance one may slip over the vne of the FF and exceed 80
mph.
john h
mkIII
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Jack,
I'll concede the root cause of aileron flutter. But, I would like to try
again. Does anyone have a photo of a balanced aireron, and possibly some
weights and dimensions. This improvement seems to be worthwhile, but for t
hose of us wanting to balance our aileron, could a couple of you craftman s
how us your stuff? Ailerons, that is. I'm certain this would be greatly a
ppreciated by more than just me.
Mike in SW Utah
> John, & Kolbers> > The root cause of aileron flutter is the lack of wing
stiffness. Due to the > fact that the wing can and does flex during flight
in response to passing > through unstable air and or roll control movement,
it causes the wing to > twist chord wise with the most of the movement tak
ing place at the > unsupported outer wing tip. By doing so this tries to wh
ip the aileron up > and down. The balancing of the aileron puts a mass ahea
d of the hinge equal > to aileron mass behind the hinge line and so the ail
eron will bounce up and > down but will not twist about the hinge due to wi
ng twisting.> > If you would like to read more about this, Google - 'NACA "
aileron flutter"'> > Jack B. Hart FF004> Winchester, IN>
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Subject: | Re: Ailerons 101 |
Mike, Why not just use the MkIII system. Weights and measures won't do you
much good except to ball park what you need. The MkIII fittings and the bar
may not be the most elegant, but it is adaptable to all different weights o
f
ailerons.
Rick
On 9/23/07, Mike Welch <mdnanwelch7@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> Jack,
>
> I'll concede the root cause of aileron flutter. But, I would like to
> try again. Does anyone have a photo of a balanced aireron, and possibly
> some weights and dimensions. This improvement seems to be worthwhile, bu
t
> for those of us wanting to balance our aileron, could a couple of you
> craftman show us your stuff? Ailerons, that is. I'm certain this would
be
> greatly appreciated by more than just me.
> Mike in SW Utah
>
> > John, & Kolbers
> >
> > The root cause of aileron flutter is the lack of wing stiffness. Due to
> the
> > fact that the wing can and does flex during flight in response to
> passing
> > through unstable air and or roll control movement, it causes the wing t
o
>
> > twist chord wise with the most of the movement taking place at the
> > unsupported outer wing tip. By doing so this tries to whip the aileron
> up
> > and down. The balancing of the aileron puts a mass ahead of the hinge
> equal
> > to aileron mass behind the hinge line and so the aileron will bounce up
> and
> > down but will not twist about the hinge due to wing twisting.
> >
> > If you would like to read more about this, Google - 'NACA "aileron
> flutter"'
> >
> > Jack B. Hart FF004
> > Winchester, IN
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Rick,
I'd be happy to use the MkIII system, especially since I have a MkIII. But,
in my MkIII builder's book (Mar '98 edition), it makes NO mention of aileron
balancing, and practically nothing of even the ailerons.
Although I'm quite certain I could come up with something,.
I would still appreciate a photo or two, and if there is a reference to aileron
balancing in a later edition, or even better in an XTRA manual, I would greatly
appreciate it if someone could scan and send this updated information.
Mike Welch
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Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Ailerons 101
Mike, Why not just use the MkIII system. Weights and measures won't do you much
good except to ball park what you need. The MkIII fittings and the bar may not
be the most elegant, but it is adaptable to all different weights of ailerons.
Rick
On 9/23/07, Mike Welch <mdnanwelch7@hotmail.com> wrote:
Jack,
I'll concede the root cause of aileron flutter. But, I would like to try again.
Does anyone have a photo of a balanced aireron, and possibly some weights
and dimensions. This improvement seems to be worthwhile, but for those of us
wanting to balance our aileron, could a couple of you craftman show us your stuff?
Ailerons, that is. I'm certain this would be greatly appreciated by more
than just me.
Mike in SW Utah
> John, & Kolbers
>
> The root cause of aileron flutter is the lack of wing stiffness. Due to the
> fact that the wing can and does flex during flight in response to passing
> through unstable air and or roll control movement, it causes the wing to
> twist chord wise with the most of the movement taking place at the
> unsupported outer wing tip. By doing so this tries to whip the aileron up
> and down. The balancing of the aileron puts a mass ahead of the hinge equal
> to aileron mass behind the hinge line and so the aileron will bounce up and
> down but will not twist about the hinge due to wing twisting.
>
> If you would like to read more about this, Google - 'NACA "aileron flutter"'
>
> Jack B. Hart FF004
> Winchester, IN
>
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Subject: | Re: Ailerons 101 |
Mike, mine's from about the same era, and if the components didn't come
with your kit, I know they're available from Kolb. There's a "T" that
rivets into the outboard end of the leading edge of the aileron, and a
solid steel rod that slides into that and bolts into place. The only
picture I can find of it is with the wings folded ready to load in the
trailer. It shows the "T" fittings, but the balance weight rods are
removed and a steel bar is replacing them to help hold the wings solidly
while in the trailer. Lar.
Mike Welch wrote:
>
>
> Rick,
>
> I'd be happy to use the MkIII system, especially since I have a MkIII.
But, in my MkIII builder's book (Mar '98 edition), it makes NO mention of aileron
balancing, and practically nothing of even the ailerons.
> Although I'm quite certain I could come up with something,.
> I would still appreciate a photo or two, and if there is a reference to aileron
balancing in a later edition, or even better in an XTRA manual, I would
greatly appreciate it if someone could scan and send this updated information.
> Mike Welch
>
>
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Subject: | I finally flew it! |
Patience is rewarded and I finally flew my Ultrastar today! (I don't count
yesterday's short crow hop as a flight). My only complaint is that it was
too short... as soon as I was high enough to be committed, the engine
started surging. Fortunately I only had to climb a little to be high
enough to make the sod farms south of the airport, then throttling back
smoothed things out a bit, keeping me aloft in a slow descent. Gave me
enough to go around and get it back to the runway... made a real fast steep
approach since I didn't have the opportunity to feel it out and do a few
stalls as I'd planned. Got it down OK though, my only complaint is that I
can't even say how it handled (except that it was no trouble), in that
situation you just "do it" without thinking about it.
Turns out there was an air leak at the fuel filter, which I at first
attributed to the cheap worm screw hose clamps that were on the plane when
I bought it. However, after removing them, trimming the lines, and
securing them with several wraps of safety wire, I still get air bubbles
and little fuel in the filter at full power (on the ground, of course!) As
it got dark I didn't have time to investigate further; I'm wondering if the
filter itself (the clear plastic one with the sintered bronze element that
Aircraft Spruce sells for ultralights) maybe has a leak, perhaps a bad
plastic weld... anybody ever heard of such a thing?
With luck I'll be able to get new clamps and filter on tomorrow after work,
and squeeze in a longer flight before sunset.
-Dana
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Thanks for sharing your input and experiences. Just curious if there are factors
that contribute to the deterioration of the Velcro such as...are they hangered
right after flying vs. left out in the weather...do you fold the wings every
time you're done flying, thus needing to continually remove and replace the
cloth gap seal...do you live in extreme climates?
Beauford, I've never heard the term "Brothette", but if that's what you'd call
a "Mrs.", then yep, that's me.
Aviatress Cristal :D
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Subject: | Re: Ailerons 101 |
Mike, Sorry about that, I lost track of the type Kolb we were talking about
.
I forget what the factory charges for the kit, but Travis has them in stock
,
I'm sure. Once you see them, you'll know exactly how to set them up. Like
all things Kolb, they're pretty simple. You'll have to drill out a few of
the rivets that mount the outboard aileron hinge. I used Naval Jelly to get
a phosphate coating on the steel before I primed and painted. Balancing is
just a matter of disconnecting the drive pushrod and adjusting the steel ba
r
until the aileron lower surface is parallel to the lower surface of the
wing. Hope this helps and please excuse my poor dirty plane. Gotta get back
to serious work on her, the DAR comes next week.
Rick
On 9/23/07, Mike Welch <mdnanwelch7@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> Rick,
>
> I'd be happy to use the MkIII system, especially since I have a
> MkIII. But, in my MkIII builder's book (Mar '98 edition), it makes NO
> mention of aileron balancing, and practically nothing of even the aileron
s.
> Although I'm quite certain I could come up with something,.
> I would still appreciate a photo or two, and if there is a reference
> to aileron balancing in a later edition, or even better in an XTRA manual
, I
> would greatly appreciate it if someone could scan and send this updated
> information.
> Mike Welch
>
> ________________________________
> Date: Sun, 23 Sep 2007 12:21:20 -0500
> From: jindoguy@gmail.com
> To: kolb-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Ailerons 101
>
> Mike, Why not just use the MkIII system. Weights and measures won't do yo
u
> much good except to ball park what you need. The MkIII fittings and the b
ar
> may not be the most elegant, but it is adaptable to all different weights
of
> ailerons.
>
> Rick
>
> On 9/23/07, Mike Welch <mdnanwelch7@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Jack,
>
> I'll concede the root cause of aileron flutter. But, I would like to
> try again. Does anyone have a photo of a balanced aireron, and possibly
> some weights and dimensions. This improvement seems to be worthwhile, bu
t
> for those of us wanting to balance our aileron, could a couple of you
> craftman show us your stuff? Ailerons, that is. I'm certain this would
be
> greatly appreciated by more than just me.
> Mike in SW Utah
>
> > John, & Kolbers
> >
> > The root cause of aileron flutter is the lack of wing stiffness. Due to
> the
> > fact that the wing can and does flex during flight in response to
> passing
> > through unstable air and or roll control movement, it causes the wing t
o
> > twist chord wise with the most of the movement taking place at the
> > unsupported outer wing tip. By doing so this tries to whip the aileron
> up
> > and down. The balancing of the aileron puts a mass ahead of the hinge
> equal
> > to aileron mass behind the hinge line and so the aileron will bounce up
> and
> > down but will not twist about the hinge due to wing twisting.
> >
> > If you would like to read more about this, Google - 'NACA "aileron
> flutter"'
> >
> > Jack B. Hart FF004
> > Winchester, IN
> >
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Subject: | Re: I finally flew it! |
Dana, Easy enough to check the seam on the filter for leaks, just smear a
coating of wheel bearing grease around the seam and see if the bubbles go
away. Old Harley trick to check for intake leaks.
Rick
On 9/23/07, Dana Hague <d-m-hague@comcast.net> wrote:
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>
> Patience is rewarded and I finally flew my Ultrastar today! (I don't
> count
> yesterday's short crow hop as a flight). My only complaint is that it was
> too short... as soon as I was high enough to be committed, the engine
> started surging. Fortunately I only had to climb a little to be high
> enough to make the sod farms south of the airport, then throttling back
> smoothed things out a bit, keeping me aloft in a slow descent. Gave me
> enough to go around and get it back to the runway... made a real fast
> steep
> approach since I didn't have the opportunity to feel it out and do a few
> stalls as I'd planned. Got it down OK though, my only complaint is that I
> can't even say how it handled (except that it was no trouble), in that
> situation you just "do it" without thinking about it.
>
> Turns out there was an air leak at the fuel filter, which I at first
> attributed to the cheap worm screw hose clamps that were on the plane when
> I bought it. However, after removing them, trimming the lines, and
> securing them with several wraps of safety wire, I still get air bubbles
> and little fuel in the filter at full power (on the ground, of
> course!) As
> it got dark I didn't have time to investigate further; I'm wondering if
> the
> filter itself (the clear plastic one with the sintered bronze element that
> Aircraft Spruce sells for ultralights) maybe has a leak, perhaps a bad
> plastic weld... anybody ever heard of such a thing?
>
> With luck I'll be able to get new clamps and filter on tomorrow after
> work,
> and squeeze in a longer flight before sunset.
>
> -Dana
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At 10:05 PM 9/23/2007, cristalclear13 wrote:
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>Thanks for sharing your input and experiences. Just curious if there are
>factors that contribute to the deterioration of the Velcro such as...are
>they hangered right after flying vs. left out in the weather...do you fold
>the wings every time you're done flying, thus needing to continually
>remove and replace the cloth gap seal...
Different types of velcro are rated for different lifespans (number of
stick/unstick cycles). In general, the stronger the bond, the shorter the
life.
For mine, I found a strong bond velcro that still is good for plenty of
cycles... and has an adhesive back specifically made for flexible vinyl,
which is what I used... and sticks just great to the Stits wing covering,
which also is vinyl based.
-Dana
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Subject: | Ultrastar tailwheel |
Has anybody ever put a swiveling tailwheel on an Ultrastar? I find that
it's tough to maneuver my plane on a crowded airport even with brakes, and
using the brakes to force a tight turn has to put lots of stress (side
loading) on the lower fin and brace cables. I miss the detent locking full
swivel tailwheel I had on my T-Craft.
-Dana
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Subject: | Re: I finally flew it! |
At 10:14 PM 9/23/2007, Richard Girard wrote:
>Dana, Easy enough to check the seam on the filter for leaks, just smear a
>coating of wheel bearing grease around the seam and see if the bubbles go
>away. Old Harley trick to check for intake leaks.
Good idea, thanks, I'll try that... I'm going to replace it anyway, filters
are cheap, but it's nice to know for sure.
-Dana
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Subject: | Re: I finally flew it! |
Oh yeah... a few pix at
http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v486/flyparafan/Kolb/
Note the gap seal too, since we're having that discussion...
-Dana
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In a message dated 9/23/2007 10:07:34 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
cristalclearwaters@juno.com writes:
Just curious if there are factors that contribute to the deterioration of the
Velcro such as...
The sun deteriorates the glue on Velcro fairly fast. Most people get rid of
the cloth gap seal pretty quick.
My plane is a FS II.
Mine is made of .060 Lexan with an aluminum leading edge & some lateral
aluminum angles & is held on with screws into the wing leading edge, industrial
Velcro along the edges, & bunjii's. It only covers the top of the wing as I like
a lot of clearance for my big head.
The best mod. I have made to my FSII is to replace the short windshield with
one that starts out the same as the shorty at the bottom [where it bolts on],
but extends all the way up to the wing. Also, because of bad knees, I trimmed
the right side of the windshield so that only one screw holds that side,
gives me about 8" more room to get my foot in. Yes, my windshield shape is
assymetrical, the plane doesn't care.The new Lexan was increased in thickness to
.090". I don't fold.
I no longer feel the wind is pushing my head back & it makes winter flying
more bearable. By the way, I live in SC.
Howard Shackleford
FS II
SC
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Madam Aviatress Cristal...
Per your questions; My machine lives in an enclosed trailer and is folded
after each flight.
My take on the deterioration of the nylon cloth was that it was not so much
the velcro, or any sort of UV induced ageing, as it was the fluttering of
the trailing edge of the center portion of the cover... I think it
mechanically beat itself to death. As I mentioned, I reinforced the velcro
on the sides toward the rear with heavier stuff... and I took particular
care to stretch it as tightly as possible after noticing that it was
shredding a little over toward the center... From the time I first noticed
the beginning of the problem until it turned into a fuzzy nylon party favor
was not more than five flight hours. That last hour did almost all of the
serious damage.
As for living in an extreme climate... I have been married over 42
years....
Good Luck, and enjoy your Mark II.
Beauford
p.s. Aluminum and lexan are our friends....
Do Not Archive
<cristalclearwaters@juno.com>
deterioration of the Velcro such as...are they hangered right after flying
vs. left out in the weather...do you fold the wings every time you're done
flying... Do you live in an extreme climate?
Aviatress Cristal :D
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=136008#136008
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At 10:39 AM 9/20/2007, boyd wrote:
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>Dana
>Or you could make it permanent, bolt it on and forget it.
>
>Boyd
I would, but I expect to be folding the wings on a regular basis.
-Dana
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With the way I built my gap seal, I can fold the wings without removing
it.
Boyd.
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