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1. 04:23 AM - Re: Richard Pike's web site (ropermike)
2. 04:27 AM - Re: EAA Chapter Members (Thom Riddle)
3. 06:03 AM - Re: Kolb Twinstar Should I get it? (robert bean)
4. 06:06 AM - Re: Kolb Twinstar Should I get it? (Malcolmbru@aol.com)
5. 07:47 AM - Re: New Warp Drive (DAquaNut@aol.com)
6. 09:30 AM - Re: New Warp Drive (planecrazzzy)
7. 09:45 AM - Re: Richard Pike's web site (planecrazzzy)
8. 11:14 AM - Re: Quick things to look for after you've inspected the outside (R. Hankins)
9. 11:24 AM - Re: Primer (R. Hankins)
10. 12:17 PM - Re: Primer (planecrazzzy)
11. 12:20 PM - Re: Quick things to look for after you've inspected the outside (planecrazzzy)
12. 12:54 PM - Re: Quick things to look for after you've inspected the outside (R. Hankins)
13. 02:40 PM - Re: New Warp Drive (JetPilot)
14. 05:51 PM - Re: Re: Quick things to look for after you've inspected the outside (Charlie England)
15. 05:59 PM - Re: Re: Quick things to look for after you've inspected the outside (Russ Kinne)
16. 06:48 PM - Airworthiness Certificate (Jimmy)
17. 06:50 PM - Re: New Warp Drive (planecrazzzy)
18. 06:51 PM - Re: New Warp Drive (Richard Girard)
19. 06:57 PM - Re: Re: New Warp Drive (Richard Girard)
20. 07:01 PM - Re: New Warp Drive (Richard Girard)
21. 07:37 PM - Re: ADIZ Helicopter interception (Ron)
22. 08:05 PM - Re: Quick things to look for after you've inspected the outside (lucien)
23. 08:21 PM - Re: Airworthiness Certificate (Larry Cottrell)
24. 08:22 PM - Re: Re: Quick things to look for after you've inspected the outside (Richard Girard)
25. 08:32 PM - Re: Kolb Twinstar Should I get it? (cristalclear13)
26. 08:34 PM - Re: Airworthiness Certificate (Richard Girard)
27. 08:35 PM - Re: Airworthiness Certificate (Jimmy)
28. 08:48 PM - Re: Airworthiness Certificate (Larry Cottrell)
29. 09:21 PM - October issue of Sport Pilot (Richard Girard)
30. 10:17 PM - Re: New Warp Drive (DAquaNut@aol.com)
31. 11:54 PM - Re: New Warp Drive (Richard Girard)
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| Subject: | Re: Richard Pike's web site |
Wow! Great website! .... I really appreciate the time and effort it takes to learn
all this computer stuff, then post it all on a website to share with everyone!
.....I have Richards site in my favorites now!.....Mike
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| Subject: | Re: EAA Chapter Members |
Rick,
Here is a link to our local EAA Chapter 46 website. It has all the contact info
there and current and past newsletters too.
http://www.eaa46.org/
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| Subject: | Re: Kolb Twinstar Should I get it? |
Those both look like fun airplanes, the first being bare minimum and
very light.
-wheelbarrow wheels however.
The second is more airplane and looks like the builder did a good job.
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| Subject: | Re: Kolb Twinstar Should I get it? |
I really liked my mk2 is yours an original twin star or a mk2? there is a
big difference malcolm michigan
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| Subject: | Re: New Warp Drive |
Group
I just received my new 64 '' 2- blade Warp that I plan on putting
on my firefly with 447, instead of my Ivo, which had an adjustment ear break
off. Problem is the bolts supplied are only long enough to reach through the
prop, without the spacer. Will the Warp hit the trailing edge without the
spacer,or is it stiff enough that it will work without the spacer.
What pitch should I start with?
Also, I weighed the 64'
warp and it weighs 8.25 lbs. Has anyone weighed a 66" Ivo?
Any input from someone with experience in these areas would be most
helpfull !
Ed Diebel FF62
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| Subject: | Re: New Warp Drive |
Hope you got something stronger than a "B" box fer dat Warp....
Pitch ??? you gonna set it by 6200 RPM , aren't you....???
You can just guess the pitch and go from there....
Gotta Fly...
Mike & "Jaz" - stuck with "B" box & IVO
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| Subject: | Re: Richard Pike's web site |
I've used some of Richard's ideas too !
His idea of using bicycle cable guides for the Throttle cables gave my engine area
a "clean" look.....I took it one step further and used them to get rid of
the "hoops" on the landing gear:
http://www.wingsforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=3065
Here's a few more things here:
http://www.wingsforum.com/viewforum.php?f=180
Gotta Fly...
Mike & "Jaz" in MN
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| Subject: | Re: Quick things to look for after you've inspected the outside |
> Do NOT use SS cable for control cables on the Kolb - SS cable will start to break
strands where it goes around the pullies under the seat (on my FS II anyway)
as early as 20 hours after installation. Don't ask me how I know this......"
I just checked my stainless steel control cables this week. I'm doing an annual
and getting ready for my E-LSA inspection. After 438hrs there is no fraying
where the cables go around the pullies under the seat (or anywhere else). I
recieved SS cable with my kit from Kolb and used it. It still looks great (although
it's a bit dusty). Are you sure you had the correct type of SS cable
in your FSII? It should have been the 7x19 strand extra flexible cable. If you
used 7x7 or 1x19 strand, it would cause the failure you mentioned. If you
did have the correct type, look for a source of abration. It is not normal for
the correct cable to fail in the manner you described.
Just about every Kolb out there has stainless steel cables and they are still being
supplied with kits. It is great to point out a potential problem, but don't
be too quick to make blanket statements based on a data set of one. There
is no problem with using the proper stainless steel cable for the controls in
a Kolb.
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Bob:
Can you post a picture of the primer you described above and a contact number for
Mark Smith?
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I used to have my primer line Tee'd off of my fuel line....
But the more I thought about it , I decided it wasn't a good idea...
So I've got it running in a separate system of it's own....
Gotta Fly...
Mike & "Jaz" in MN
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| Subject: | Re: Quick things to look for after you've inspected the outside |
As Far as "I" know.....Kolb supplys Galvanized cables....
That's what they sent me.....
Use a magnet on them to be sure....
Gotta Fly...
Mike & "Jaz" in MN
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| Subject: | Re: Quick things to look for after you've inspected the outside |
Just ran out to the barn with a rare earth magnet from an old hard-drive and tested
my cables. Stuck like glue. Hmmmm...... Please stand by while I extricate
the foot from my oral cavity.
I just helped a friend with a Firestar II replace his control cables last month.
He ordered them from Travis at Kolb and told me they were stainless. I'll
ask him to do the magnet check as well.
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| Subject: | Re: New Warp Drive |
Having a spacer will lesson the prop noise as it passes the wing, I dont know
how close it is on the firefly, but you dont want it to close. I would think
it could also be hard on the fabric if it were passing that close. I use a 4
inch spacer on my MK III. I would get the long bolts and use the spacer...
The weight might be more than the recommendations of the gear box. But not to
worry, you can get a C - Box that will handle the extra weight of the warp just
fine for 1200 bucks :) If I had the B box, I would be tempted to put the warp
on it, but its technically to heavy for that gear box, and it might or might
not last long. I got a powerfin when I needed a new prop for the 447 to keep
the weight within limits...
What is the adjustment ear ? I am not familiar with the IVO, but you now have
a nice protractor to set the pitch of the prop, you could use that to set the
pitch on the IVO and fly for now. The warp protractor is a really accurate way
to set your pitch.
Like Planecrazzy said, I would set it for 6200 RPM static... There is nothing
to gain by setting the RPM very high except wearing out your engine sooner, or
even increasing the chance of it failing.
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| Subject: | Re: Quick things to look for after you've inspected the |
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R. Hankins wrote:
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> Just ran out to the barn with a rare earth magnet from an old hard-drive and
tested my cables. Stuck like glue. Hmmmm...... Please stand by while I extricate
the foot from my oral cavity.
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> I just helped a friend with a Firestar II replace his control cables last month.
He ordered them from Travis at Kolb and told me they were stainless. I'll
ask him to do the magnet check as well.
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> Back to the barn....
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> 1992 KXP 503 - N1862C
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Some alloys of stainless are magnetic. Sorry; don't know which ones, though.
Charlie
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outside
I believe this is the 300 series. Not too common
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On Sep 29, 2007, at 8:51 PM, Charlie England wrote:
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>> <rphanks@grantspass.com>
>> Just ran out to the barn with a rare earth magnet from an old hard-
>> drive and tested my cables. Stuck like glue. Hmmmm...... Please
>> stand by while I extricate the foot from my oral cavity.
>> I just helped a friend with a Firestar II replace his control
>> cables last month. He ordered them from Travis at Kolb and told
>> me they were stainless. I'll ask him to do the magnet check as well.
>> Back to the barn....
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>> 1992 KXP 503 - N1862C
> Some alloys of stainless are magnetic. Sorry; don't know which
> ones, though.
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> Charlie
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| Subject: | Airworthiness Certificate |
Today I had my airworthiness inspection. Everything was in working order
and passed the DAR's inspection.
Signed my name nine times and was handed my little airworthiness card with a
4 page instruction of do's and don't.
No flying limitations. Only cost $500.00. He was doing 3 today. Guess
they can drive a Corvette.
Thanks to everyone who answered my questions on and off the Kolb List.
Jimmy Hankinson
912-863-7384
Firefly #035, (N6007L)
JYL (Sylvania.Ga.)
Pegasus Field (Home)
2000 Feet X 100 Feet- Grass
Rocky Ford, Georgia
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| Subject: | Re: New Warp Drive |
Hey Jet Pilot,
The ear he's talking about on an IVO prop , is this....
There's a long Torsion rod that is molded into the blade....
at the base of the blade....a tab/ear/arm is welded on the torsion rod....
The way IVO's are adjusted.....no matter how many blades....
A threaded rod with a groove around it ( tabs fit into the groove )
will be turned and apply pressure to the torsion rods , changing the pitch
of the blades..... All blades are adjusted at the same time....
If a tab is broken , that blade won't change.....
The older IVO's are changed by moving BIG washers from front to back
They were doing basicly the same thing....putting pressure on the tabs...
Gotta Fly...
Mike & "Jaz" in MN
PS Did you buy a TIG machine ???
I just ordered the wood for the wings on the Buttercup that I'm starting to build....
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Buttercup-STOL/
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| Subject: | Re: New Warp Drive |
Ed, Look up the report I did last winter on prop inertia testing in the
archives. I don't remember the weight of the Ivo I tested. It was a three
blade, so it might not be of much help, anyway.
Probably the most important thing you can do for the health of your gearbox,
a "B", I'm guessing, is to do the inertia testing on your new Warp Drive. It
is very easy to do and will give you the info on just how far out of limit
you are.
As for running the prop, set your idle RPM high enough so you don't get gear
chatter and make throttle changes smoothly.
I'm attaching the Rotax service instruction on inertia testing.
Rick
On 9/29/07, DAquaNut@aol.com <DAquaNut@aol.com> wrote:
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> Group
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> I just received my new 64 '' 2- blade Warp that I plan on
> putting on my firefly with 447, instead of my Ivo, which had an adjustment
> ear break off. Problem is the bolts supplied are only long enough to reach
> through the prop, without the spacer. Will the Warp hit the trailing edge
> without the spacer,or is it stiff enough that it will work without the
> spacer.
> What pitch should I start with?
>
> Also, I weighed the 64' warp and it weighs 8.25 lbs. Has anyone weighed
> a 66" Ivo?
>
> Any input from someone with experience in these areas would be
> most helpfull !
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> Ed Diebel FF62
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| Subject: | Re: New Warp Drive |
Mike, The ear Ed referred to is connected to the steel rod that runs inside
the blade. Ivos adjust the pitch by twisting this rod. Without the ear, I
don't know of any way to set the pitch. I suppose you could have a bunch of
wedges machined but it seems like more trouble than it's worth.
Rick
On 9/29/07, JetPilot <orcabonita@hotmail.com> wrote:
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> Having a spacer will lesson the prop noise as it passes the wing, I dont
> know how close it is on the firefly, but you dont want it to close. I would
> think it could also be hard on the fabric if it were passing that close. I
> use a 4 inch spacer on my MK III. I would get the long bolts and use the
> spacer...
>
> The weight might be more than the recommendations of the gear box. But
> not to worry, you can get a C - Box that will handle the extra weight of the
> warp just fine for 1200 bucks :) If I had the B box, I would be tempted to
> put the warp on it, but its technically to heavy for that gear box, and it
> might or might not last long. I got a powerfin when I needed a new prop
> for the 447 to keep the weight within limits...
>
> What is the adjustment ear ? I am not familiar with the IVO, but you now
> have a nice protractor to set the pitch of the prop, you could use that to
> set the pitch on the IVO and fly for now. The warp protractor is a really
> accurate way to set your pitch.
>
> Like Planecrazzy said, I would set it for 6200 RPM static... There is
> nothing to gain by setting the RPM very high except wearing out your engine
> sooner, or even increasing the chance of it failing.
>
> Mike
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> !!!
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> Kolb MK-III Xtra, 912-S
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> Read this topic online here:
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> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=137164#137164
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when you live at the airport.
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| Subject: | Re: New Warp Drive |
Ed, There's one more thing I forgot to mention. Did you get the blades
tapered? If not, you might want to consider sending the blades back to warp
and getting it done. This will take weight off the area that has the largest
effect on the inertia of the prop.
Rick
On 9/29/07, Richard Girard <jindoguy@gmail.com> wrote:
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> Ed, Look up the report I did last winter on prop inertia testing in the
> archives. I don't remember the weight of the Ivo I tested. It was a three
> blade, so it might not be of much help, anyway.
> Probably the most important thing you can do for the health of your
> gearbox, a "B", I'm guessing, is to do the inertia testing on your new Warp
> Drive. It is very easy to do and will give you the info on just how far out
> of limit you are.
> As for running the prop, set your idle RPM high enough so you don't get
> gear chatter and make throttle changes smoothly.
> I'm attaching the Rotax service instruction on inertia testing.
>
> Rick
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> On 9/29/07, DAquaNut@aol.com <DAquaNut@aol.com> wrote:
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> > Group
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> > I just received my new 64 '' 2- blade Warp that I plan on
> > putting on my firefly with 447, instead of my Ivo, which had an adjustment
> > ear break off. Problem is the bolts supplied are only long enough to reach
> > through the prop, without the spacer. Will the Warp hit the trailing edge
> > without the spacer,or is it stiff enough that it will work without the
> > spacer.
> > What pitch should I start with?
> >
> > Also, I weighed the 64' warp and it weighs 8.25 lbs. Has anyone
> > weighed a 66" Ivo?
> >
> > Any input from someone with experience in these areas would be
> > most helpfull !
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> >
> > Ed Diebel FF62
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> "Ya'll drop on in"
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> when you live at the airport.
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| Subject: | Re: ADIZ Helicopter interception |
That reminds of the time I was trying to sneak a short cut from FHU to YUM. The
restricted area is right to the border. I figured hey I will fly inside Mexico
with 1 inch of my right wing in Arizona. Well a Cessna Citation with Mexican
marking and a long nose with F-16 radar in it pulled right next to me. I looked
over and waved and they pulled away. I turned around and flew back to Gilla
Bend VOR and took the long way to Yuma. I don't know why they don't give us at
least a 1 mile corridor from the border, so we can shave about 20 minutes on
flights going to San Diego or Yuma...
Ron (In Dallas)
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R. Hankins wrote:
> Just ran out to the barn with a rare earth magnet from an old hard-drive and
tested my cables. Stuck like glue. Hmmmm...... Please stand by while I extricate
the foot from my oral cavity.
>
> I just helped a friend with a Firestar II replace his control cables last month.
He ordered them from Travis at Kolb and told me they were stainless. I'll
ask him to do the magnet check as well.
>
> Back to the barn....
After my first set of SS cables that failed, I ordered the current cable directly
from Travis over at Kolb - it is galvanized steel cable.
One problem on the FS II is possibly that the pullies are pretty small in diameter.
The design is still kosher tho, according to AC 43.13 as far as I could tell
(there's a specification of a limit to the angle of bend of a cable around
a small pully and I believe it was 15 degrees). Perhaps SS cable still isn't
suitable on such small pullies (it is probably ok on larger pully setups).
In my case, the pullies were new AN pullies (also ordered from Travis at Kolb);
there was no detectable abrasion or wear that was causing the broken strands.
They were just plain breaking at the pully, apparently from fatigue, I couldn't
see any other cause for it.
The galvanized cable, however, is holding up fine with no visible wear or breaking
strands.
So I'm currently going with the pully theory on why the SS doesn't work. On my
titan, for example, the rudder cables are SS and are giving no problems with broken
strands. They don't go over any pullies though, only through plastic friction
blocks on their way back to the rudder horn. I havn't detected any broken
strands where they go through the blocks....
LS
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LS
FS II
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| Subject: | Re: Airworthiness Certificate |
>
> Today I had my airworthiness inspection. Everything was in working order
> and passed the DAR's inspection.
Did you need a three view line drawing of your plane, if so where did you
get it and how can I get one?
Larry C
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| Subject: | Re: Quick things to look for after you've inspected the |
outside
Guys and Gals, From AC 43-13 1b Chapter 7, Section 8, Paragraph 7-140, page
7-27
"General. Aircraft control cables are generally fabricated from carbon steel
or corrosion resistant steel wire of either flexible or nonflexible-type
construction."
RIck
On 9/29/07, Russ Kinne <russ@rkiphoto.com> wrote:
>
>
> I believe this is the 300 series. Not too common
> do not archive
>
> On Sep 29, 2007, at 8:51 PM, Charlie England wrote:
>
> > <ceengland@bellsouth.net>
> >
> > R. Hankins wrote:
> >> <rphanks@grantspass.com>
> >> Just ran out to the barn with a rare earth magnet from an old hard-
> >> drive and tested my cables. Stuck like glue. Hmmmm...... Please
> >> stand by while I extricate the foot from my oral cavity.
> >> I just helped a friend with a Firestar II replace his control
> >> cables last month. He ordered them from Travis at Kolb and told
> >> me they were stainless. I'll ask him to do the magnet check as well.
> >> Back to the barn....
> >> --------
> >> Roger in Oregon
> >> 1992 KXP 503 - N1862C
> > Some alloys of stainless are magnetic. Sorry; don't know which
> > ones, though.
> >
> > Charlie
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
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Rick Girard
"Ya'll drop on in"
takes on a whole new meaning
when you live at the airport.
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| Subject: | Re: Kolb Twinstar Should I get it? |
Grant,
Take a look at this article.
www.sportaviationspecialties.com/ELSACertDeadline.pdf
Looks like the FAA recommends having your inspection completed by Nov. 30th. Then
you send that paperwork in and hope everything goes smoothly enough to get
it certificated by the Jan. 31st deadline. They also recommend contacting the
DAR by October 1st to schedule an inspection. It may be cutting it awfully
close if you buy one now that isn't already certificated as ELSA.
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Cristal
Mark II Twinstar
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| Subject: | Re: Airworthiness Certificate |
Larry, the spec says a three view drawing or a picture of the aircraft. My
DAR accepted a picture of my trike without batting an eye.
Rick
On 9/29/07, Larry Cottrell <lcottrell@fmtcblue.com> wrote:
>
>
> >
> > Today I had my airworthiness inspection. Everything was in working
> order
> > and passed the DAR's inspection.
>
>
> Did you need a three view line drawing of your plane, if so where did you
> get it and how can I get one?
> Larry C
>
>
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Rick Girard
"Ya'll drop on in"
takes on a whole new meaning
when you live at the airport.
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| Subject: | Re: Airworthiness Certificate |
Yes..My illustrated construction book had one.. I took it to a large copy
machine and reduced the size of it to a 8 x 11 size. This was a Firefly. I
can fax or e-mail to you. Fax would be easier.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Larry Cottrell" <lcottrell@fmtcblue.com>
Sent: Saturday, September 29, 2007 11:21 PM
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Airworthiness Certificate
>
>>
>> Today I had my airworthiness inspection. Everything was in working order
>> and passed the DAR's inspection.
>
>
> Did you need a three view line drawing of your plane, if so where did you
> get it and how can I get one?
> Larry C
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Airworthiness Certificate |
Thanks!
Larry C
----- Original Message -----
From: Richard Girard
To: kolb-list@matronics.com
Sent: Saturday, September 29, 2007 9:28 PM
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Airworthiness Certificate
Larry, the spec says a three view drawing or a picture of the
aircraft. My DAR accepted a picture of my trike without batting an eye.
Rick
On 9/29/07, Larry Cottrell <lcottrell@fmtcblue.com> wrote:
<lcottrell@fmtcblue.com>
>
> Today I had my airworthiness inspection. Everything was in
working order
--
Rick Girard
"Ya'll drop on in"
takes on a whole new meaning
when you live at the airport.
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| Subject: | October issue of Sport Pilot |
Two good things in this month's issue of Sport Pilot. On page 61 the
photograph that opens the article, "Meritable Aviation" is of a group of
Kolb pilots at Monument Valley under the wing of Kolbra N49KK. I'd guess the
tail with the red and yellow sunburst is N101AB. Nice looking group, didn't
even crack the camera lens.
For all you who are speculating on what will happen to "fat" ultralights
after February 1st of next year, I strongly urge you to read and take heed
of the article on page 49, "An EAAer's Encounter with the FAA".
By now, all on this forum know I have some pretty strong opinions about
E-LSA registration. I just want you to know they are for entirely selfish
purposes. Reading your posts and taking advantage of the knowledge base here
is one of the greatest assets to me and my Kolbs. I'll consider it a
personal lose if anyone of you are grounded because you didn't take
advantage of the grace period given us by the FAA. Face it, flyers are a
dying breed. The lose of any one of us is one too many.
Rick
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Rick Girard
"Ya'll drop on in"
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when you live at the airport.
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| Subject: | Re: New Warp Drive |
In a message dated 9/29/2007 9:02:14 P.M. Central Standard Time,
jindoguy@gmail.com writes:
Ed, There's one more thing I forgot to mention. Did you get the blades
tapered? If not, you might want to consider sending the blades back to warp and
getting it done. This will take weight off the area that has the largest effect
on the inertia of the prop.
Rick
Rick,
Yes I did get the blades tapered . Thanks for your replies and the info
on inertia testing. I plan on testing as soon as I can. It is not real clear
as to how they attach the wires to the prop but I will try to rig it like
the diagram.
Ed
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| Subject: | Re: New Warp Drive |
I made an attachment plate from a piece of scrap plywood. The two smaller
holes at 90 degrees to the centerline were used to test an old Soarmaster
prop from the olds when you had to foot launch ultralights. I used .032
safety wire to suspend the prop being tested from a piece of square steel
tubing I "C" clamped from the hangar frame and braced the tube with a couple
of pieces of steel flat stock I took from my scrap bin. The whole apparatus
took about 15 minutes to make. I used the stop watch I bought for testing Vx
and Vy speeds during phase 1 testing of my mk 3 and repeated the test 3
times and took the average time. About the hardest thing about it all was
trying to eliminate as much of any extraneous side to side rocking as
possible. With a little practice I got pretty good at eyeballing the center
mark as being in the center of the twisting motion. Once you get it moving
with the center mark as still as possible you can count 30 swings, write
down the time, count 30 more, write down the second time and count 30 more.
Like any pendulum, as the arc gets shorter the speed the arc slows down. In
doing 95 to 100 total swings to get three 30 swing tests each set was within
a few tenths of a second for each of the three. With mounting and
dismounting, I tested five props in about an hour and a half, and that
included a break to make a pot of coffee in the middle of the testing.
Rick
On 9/30/07, DAquaNut@aol.com <DAquaNut@aol.com> wrote:
>
> In a message dated 9/29/2007 9:02:14 P.M. Central Standard Time,
> jindoguy@gmail.com writes:
>
> Ed, There's one more thing I forgot to mention. Did you get the blades
> tapered? If not, you might want to consider sending the blades back to warp
> and getting it done. This will take weight off the area that has the largest
> effect on the inertia of the prop.
>
> Rick
>
> Rick,
>
> Yes I did get the blades tapered . Thanks for your replies and the
> info on inertia testing. I plan on testing as soon as I can. It is not real
> clear as to how they attach the wires to the prop but I will try to rig it
> like the diagram.
>
> Ed
>
>
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"Ya'll drop on in"
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when you live at the airport.
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