---------------------------------------------------------- Kolb-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Fri 10/12/07: 3 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 02:50 AM - Re: Re: I Passed! (pat ladd) 2. 03:11 AM - big files (pat ladd) 3. 08:08 AM - Re: Re: Remaining FAT ultralights after Deadline (Richard Girard) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 02:50:46 AM PST US From: "pat ladd" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: I Passed! Two countries divided by a common language. Wasn't that how Churchill put it,>> Hi Rick Churchill put lots of things very succinctly. The one I like is the story of a rather combative lady Member of Parliament who during a parliamentary debate said to Churchill "You are drunk" To which Churchill replied " and you madam are ugly, but in the morning I shall be sober" cheers Pat ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 03:11:51 AM PST US From: "pat ladd" Subject: Kolb-List: big files Hi All, every one on the list knows by now that I am no computer guru but there was a problem a short while ago about sending large files by e-mail. I have absolutely no idea if this is helpful but there exists a couple of sites www.mailbigfile.com or www.yousendit.com. Both of these are free. I have not used these sites, and probabably couldn`t, but for what its worth... Cheers Pat ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 08:08:09 AM PST US From: "Richard Girard" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Remaining FAT ultralights after Deadline Dana, I just got off the phone with Edsel Ford at the light sport branch. I was wrong in my interpretation of E-LSA after 1-31-08. Have to go back to my notes from RM class and see where I got off course. While you must present an aircraft for inspection that is strictly controlled by the plans or kit, once you get an experimental certificate, you are free to experiment as you so desire. For those interested, and those who might go off Kolb and buy an S-LSA. The reason for 21.191 (i) 3 is to support orphaned fleets. If you buy an S-LSA and the builder goes belly up, you cannot remain in S-LSA as you would then have no network of support for issuing Service Instructions and Service Bulletins, as required. Your only option is to convert to E-LSA which this provision (21.191 (i) 3) allows you to do. Rick On 10/11/07, Richard Girard wrote: > > Dana, et al, I'll call the Light Sport Branch tomorrow, to confirm, but > Ron's take on E-LSA is not what I learned at Corning. That was last year and > LSA has been pretty fluid, so who knows. > The version I got was, Yes you could modify your S-LSA or E-LSA > (registered after 2-1-08 doesn't apply to those grandfathered in and > registered under 21.191 i (1)), but you had to get a letter of > authorization from the manufacturer listing your airplane by N number. This > was to prevent exactly what Ron says you can do to something like the Cessna > Skycatcher. I can't imagine Jack Pelton's fleet of attorneys would have > given him the go ahead to produce the 162 if they thought somebody could > pull off the O-200D and strap on a Chevy V-6 while the Cessna name was still > painted on the tail. The media doesn't make such distinctions, and a crashed > Cessna is a crashed Cessna. > As I got it, the only advantage to E-LSA was that you could go take the > Repairman Inspector weekend class and do your own conditional inspections. > For that you lost the ability to teach in it or rent it. But like S-LSA, > unauthorized modifications to an E-LSA voided your airworthiness > certificate. I'll get back to you all with an answer, tomorrow. > > Rick > > On 10/11/07, Dana Hague wrote: > > > > > > At 03:24 PM 10/11/2007, jb92563 wrote: > > > > > >Is there no E-LSA category after the deadline, or do they have to > > appear > > >on a list of approved E-LSA aircraft to be built from scratch? > > > > See http://www.kitplanes.com/sportplanes/0505-3740.pdf for a very good > > article explaining all the SLSA/ELSA/EAB variations. Should answer all > > your questions. > > > > -Dana > > -- > > -- > > But do you trust the _government_ with semi-automatic assault rifles? > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message kolb-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/Kolb-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/kolb-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/kolb-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.