---------------------------------------------------------- Kolb-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Sun 10/14/07: 21 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 02:34 AM - Re: Re: Grand Vortex Generator Challenge (pat ladd) 2. 04:36 AM - Re: "belly" dragger aka Flying Bathtub (Thom Riddle) 3. 04:43 AM - Re: Antenna location (Thom Riddle) 4. 05:04 AM - Re: Antenna location (planecrazzzy) 5. 08:09 AM - Re: Testing (Terry) 6. 08:33 AM - Re: Antenna location (lcottrell) 7. 12:29 PM - Fly In at the Kolb Farm (George T. Alexander, Jr.) 8. 01:42 PM - Re: Fly In at the Kolb Farm (John Hauck) 9. 02:03 PM - fly in at Kolb Farm (Arksey@aol.com) 10. 02:04 PM - Re: Re: Antenna location (John Hauck) 11. 03:29 PM - Re: FireFly Landing Gear Leg Strength Improvement (John Hauck) 12. 03:30 PM - Re: FireFly Landing Gear Leg Strength Improvement (John Hauck) 13. 04:21 PM - Re: Antenna location (Thom Riddle) 14. 05:43 PM - Re: Re: Antenna location (John Hauck) 15. 05:47 PM - Re: Fly In at the Kolb Farm (Eugene Zimmerman) 16. 06:43 PM - Rebuilding a Kolb-WANTED (Aaron Gustafson) 17. 07:17 PM - kee west vcoltage regulator?? (Malcolmbru@aol.com) 18. 07:43 PM - 2007 Fathers Day Fly-in to Homer's (Terry) 19. 08:09 PM - Mz Evelyn Johnson (Bob Noyer) 20. 08:17 PM - Re: kee west vcoltage regulator?? (R. Hankins) 21. 08:24 PM - Forum running slow? (R. Hankins) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 02:34:24 AM PST US From: "pat ladd" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Grand Vortex Generator Challenge Hi Lar, great pics as usual. Annually we have the largest balloon fiesta in the UK, and maybe in Europe at Bristol, about 20 miles from home.. Pretty good but not as many balloons as yours . The weather usually scrubs a couple of days out of the week too. Cameron Balloons, a major balloon maker, is based in Bristol and I think that Cameron was instrumental in getting the event going. Cheers Pat ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 04:36:49 AM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Re: "belly" dragger aka Flying Bathtub From: "Thom Riddle" Old Bob, I'm not sure you can really use this word describing a C-3 but there is a "beautiful" C-3 about 60 miles south of me at Dart Field (D79). There is a flying museum of sorts there and a good restaurant on field. For those Kolbers inclined to fly all over the country, if you make it up this way again in the summer, this place is worth a stop. They have lots of UL type and LSA type fly-ins every summer. The last one this season was last week-end. do not archive -------- Thom in Buffalo N221FA Allegro 2000 912UL N197BG FS1/447 -------------------- "Setting an example is not the main means of influencing another, it is the only means." Albert Einstein Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=139860#139860 ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 04:43:22 AM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Antenna location From: "Thom Riddle" Dana, My Firestar came with an antenna mounted roughly mid-point on the boom tube. Whoever added it did not drill into the tube but ran the cable on the outside underneath so it would not be visible. The cable is held in place with self-adhesive cable tie anchors. Unfortunately, I have no idea how it works because I never got around to using my hand held radio with it before my unfortunate pothole landing incident. Once it is flying again, I'll eventually get around to trying out the radio. do not archive -------- Thom in Buffalo N221FA Allegro 2000 912UL N197BG FS1/447 -------------------- "Setting an example is not the main means of influencing another, it is the only means." Albert Einstein Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=139861#139861 ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 05:04:50 AM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Antenna location From: "planecrazzzy" I put my antenna on my Wing-Gap seal.... ( it's aluminum ) I also have my ELT antenna on it.... My transponder antenna is sticking out the bottom where the passenger sits.....but that one needed a grounding plane , I slipped it between the tubing and fabric.... I got rid of my rubber ducky antenna ,Bought the straight one from ACS .. .. .. .. "I" sure wouldn't go putting holes in my tail boom ( but that's me ) .. .. .. .. I was told the antenna should also be "straight" up & down.... ( I was going to put a Bent one on the belly ) .. .. .. Gotta Fly... Mike & "Jaz" - Building a Buttercup .. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Buttercup-STOL/ .. .. .. .. -------- .. .. .. .. .. Do Not Archive Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=139862#139862 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/hpim0105_202.jpg ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 08:09:42 AM PST US From: Terry Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Testing possums wrote: > At 01:14 PM 10/13/2007, you wrote: >> Test > * > RE:Test *Everybody must be out flying. > > * http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=8138441391455398603&hl=en > * Thanks possums, I'm in the middle of a forced transition to at new ISP and all of a sudden I'm not getting any Kolb List mail. Wouldn't you know that there would be a lull in the list at this time. Wasn't sure what was going on! Terry - Firefly #95 ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 08:33:50 AM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Antenna location From: "lcottrell" For what it is worth, I had to mount my antenna on the belly of my Firestar. I tried it on the top of the windshield and the noise was so bad that it was unusable. I had put a alum plate right on the bottom of the cage just behind the pilots seat. it is 23.5 inches long and bent so that it clears the ground. I had no problems with a 447 on the plane. When I changed to a 503 the noise was really bad. I ended up with ferrite chokes to cut down on the noise. I believe all that is in the archives. Larry,Oregon -------- do not archive Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=139891#139891 ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 12:29:50 PM PST US From: "George T. Alexander, Jr." Subject: Kolb-List: Fly In at the Kolb Farm Kolbers & Kolbettes: The material from the gathering at the Kolb Farm a "few months" ago (Father's Day Weekend), has been posted to the web. As in the past, there are a number of good excuses and far fewer good reasons that it has taken so long. I apologize to all. You can see the material by going to the web site at: http://gtalexander.home.att.net and click on the "Homer's Fan Club" link. The 2007 material has been incorporated into the material from the previous two gatherings (2004 & 2005). Since the material is primarily images, I tried to strike a compromise between quality and consideration for those on dial-up. Many of the images were taken by others. These include Eugene Zimmerman, John Williamson, and Dave Starbuck. Additionally, Chris and Marcus Kolb provided a large number. To all these folks, I am grateful. I'm sure that I can speak for those that attended when I say thanks to Clara and Homer, their family and friends for their hospitality. Because of the Kolb Family, participation in this event can not be matched. Terry Frantz's efforts in coordinating are also appreciated. I welcome any comments or questions about the material. (Particularly if I missed including names of any of the attendees or misspelled anyone's name.... please let me know and I will fix it.) George Alexander http://gtalexander.home.att.net ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 01:42:52 PM PST US From: "John Hauck" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Fly In at the Kolb Farm | (Father's Day Weekend), has been posted to the web. | | | http://gtalexander.home.att.net | | George Alexander Hi George: Thanks very much for doing such a great job on the Homer Kolb Flyin, and the hard work you did putting together the other photo albums from our Kolb events. I truly appreciate your work and your talent. Also appreciate your friendship and the times we all get to spend together all over the US at our little flyins. I am down in Lincoln, NE. Blew a trailer tire yesterday afternoon soon after crossing the Nebraska state line. Got it going again and 5 minutes later lost the 5th gear in the NV4500 transmission. Luckily, still had the first four gears and reverse. Got a nice place in an RV park with wifi, plus all the other amenities. Will start work in the morning to get the old 1992 Dodge/Cummins up and a replacement tire for the 5th wheel. Soon as we get things fixed, we will continue NW to the Rock House in SE Oregon, home of Larry and Karen Cottrell. I'll try to get to emails I have not answered, today or tomorrow. Take care, john h mkIII hauck's holler remote.................. ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 02:03:13 PM PST US From: Arksey@aol.com Subject: Kolb-List: fly in at Kolb Farm Hat is off to you George...you did good...enjoyed the way you did the pictures on your web site pertaining to the Kolb Farm fly in..worked good on my dial up. thanks again for all your work that we all can enjoy. flying here in michigan has slowed down, cool and rainy. will be back in air 1st good day. James Swan KOLB FIRESTAR ll 503 N663S 6147 Wilcox Rd., Eaton Rapids, Mi 48827 ph 517-663-8488 FLORIDA ph 863-655-1535 email is ARKSEY@AOL.COM GRASS STRIP E & W 2200' GPS 42deg 28.65N 084 deg 44.87 N do not archive ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 02:04:21 PM PST US From: "John Hauck" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Antenna location | Unfortunately, I have no idea how it works because I never got around to using my hand held radio with it before my unfortunate pothole landing incident. | | -------- | Thom in Buffalo Thom: Was the pothole made by the nose or the wing tip when you crashed? ;-) Was my understanding you were finished flying long before you hit the "pothole". We aren't going to let you get away with thinking a pot hole did all that damage. john h mkIII ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 03:29:03 PM PST US From: "John Hauck" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: FireFly Landing Gear Leg Strength Improvement home? | Hi Will: Because I had fouled a BR8ES early on with the new FS, I was running BR8EV fine wire plugs. Remember, this was 1988. Ran great on the EV's until halfway across the Niagra River from Grand Island to the mainland north of Buffalo, NY. All the sudden the 447 shut down on one cylinder. I new there was no need to try and nurse a one cylinder 447, so I elected to glide back over Grand Island where I had seen some overgrown weed fields near the highway. Decided to land on the highway right of way, but changed my mind at the last moment to land over the fence in the field. Was concerned I was over Canada, because I had seen Canadian flag flying at a toll booth on the highway, had diversion of attention, stalled the airplane about 10 or 15 feet above the ground. Was saved by a young man that heard my plea on a local radio station. The crash site was covered up with law enforcement, reporters, TV and radio, newspaper, straphangers, and on and on. I rented a uhaul truck, dismantled the aircraft and hauled it to Niagra International Airport. A gentleman there had a hanger and repair shop. We patched the FS back together enough to fly. The airplane controls were out of rig, the landing gear was bent, both of them, the nose cone was busted up and taped back together with duct tape. Fabric on the fuselage was patched and replaced. Polybrushed and not paint or polyspray. I flew it out of Niagra International Airport and back to Gantt International Airport, Alabama. Took me three days to get home. Take care, john h mkIII ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 03:30:25 PM PST US From: "John Hauck" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: FireFly Landing Gear Leg Strength Improvement | | Why did you loose your engine and how did you get your FS back home? | | Regards, | Will Uribe, | Will: Forgot to mention how I lost the engine. An electrode tip off the BR8EV seperated and failed that plug. The tips were fine wire and fused or cemented to the plug core. I never ran another EV plug after that. john h mkIII ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 04:21:44 PM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Antenna location From: "Thom Riddle" John H, I appreciate your humor about my pothole landing. >From my own estimate, my eye level was probably about 7-8 feet above the ground when I stalled. According to Bob Bean who witnessed the whole thing, he said the wheels were perhaps 2-3 feet above the ground which jibes well with my eye-level assessment. No argument about having stalled before hitting the pothole. I firmly believe that if I had not hit the pothole after stalling from 2-3 feet the damage would have been a lot less. The pot hole made a bad landing far worse than it otherwise would have been. If I had already landing properly and then hit the pothole the results would likely have been far less damaging too. The combination of my admittedly bad landing (stalling too high) and the bad luck of hitting the pothole upon hard touch down was more than the axle weldment could withstand. On a positive note, not having built a Kolb, I'm learning a lot more about the Firestar than I would have without this incident. do not archive -------- Thom in Buffalo N221FA Allegro 2000 912UL N197BG FS1/447 -------------------- "Setting an example is not the main means of influencing another, it is the only means." Albert Einstein Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=139960#139960 ________________________________ Message 14 ____________________________________ Time: 05:43:44 PM PST US From: "John Hauck" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Antenna location The pot hole made a bad landing far worse | -------- | Thom in Buffalo Thom: Been there and done that, minus the stall. It was a large rut on a dirt trail across the gravel strip that took off my left wheel and axle at Muncho Lake, BC, 1 July 2000. That is what initiated it. The gear leg/axle socket had many thousand landings on it, was waiting on a trigger. If I had not gotten it at Muncho Lake, it would have failed some place else on down the line. It failed at a place that had food, lodging, and a telephone. Rebuilding a Kolb is a good way to learn about how they are built. It is also a good time to make changes to them that you did not know about until you have flown them for a while. We did a major overhaul update on my FS after the accident in 1988. Next year we flew it back up through all the New England states, Sault Saint Marie, Canada, and south into OSH. The updates and rebuild paid off. Made all that work worthwhile, plus the little airplane was set up the way I wanted it. Was a neat little bird that eventually flew in all the States east of the Mississippi, some west of the Big Muddy, and Canada. Not bad with a little 447 point ignition Rotax and a wooden prop. john h hauck's holler remote, Lincoln, Nebraska ________________________________ Message 15 ____________________________________ Time: 05:47:41 PM PST US From: Eugene Zimmerman Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Fly In at the Kolb Farm Hey George! You have done it again! You have graphically captured the essence of the "Fly In at the Kolb Farm ". Fantastic KOLB PEOPLE, at the fantastic KOLB PLACE, with fantastic KOLB AIRPLANES! Your web site is "second best " only to actually being there, seeing the planes, hearing the sounds, tasting the food, and visiting with the people. Thanks, Gene ________________________________ Message 16 ____________________________________ Time: 06:43:39 PM PST US From: "Aaron Gustafson" Subject: Kolb-List: Rebuilding a Kolb-WANTED >>>John Hauck wrote "Rebuilding a Kolb is a good way to learn about how >>>they are built" I am looking for a MK 3 to rebuild, most any condition, crashed, storm damaged etc .. I built a FS in the 90's and flew it for 450 hours. Then I scratch built a Zenith 601 and began flying it this past summer. But I miss looking straight down. So I am looking for a MK 3 project so I can look down with a passenger. If anyone knows of such a project, preferably in the central US, please let me know or put someone in touch with me. Aaron Gustafson Iron Mountain Michigan 906 774 0683 agustafson@chartermi.net ________________________________ Message 17 ____________________________________ Time: 07:17:49 PM PST US From: Malcolmbru@aol.com Subject: Kolb-List: kee west vcoltage regulator?? any body had a bad experiences with the kee west regulator ? malcolm ________________________________ Message 18 ____________________________________ Time: 07:43:34 PM PST US From: Terry Subject: Kolb-List: 2007 Fathers Day Fly-in to Homer's George, Like they say about good wine and Bourbon, it takes time to produce quality results and I can wait! You do a super job of documenting the event each time and I know all of those who attended it appreciate your efforts, other wise much of the memories would be lost with time. I know Homer and Clara will appreciate this as well! We are fortunate to have you do this for us as I know I'm not capable of doing it. Thank you again, Terry - FireFly #95 ________________________________ Message 19 ____________________________________ Time: 08:09:00 PM PST US From: Bob Noyer Subject: Kolb-List: Mz Evelyn Johnson You may recall I previously wrote about Mz Evelyn's induction into the Class of 2007 in the Aviation Hall of Fame, Dayton OH 7/21/07, and her previous car accident, resulting in a partial leg amputation, ending a flying and instructional career starting in '44, having given more than 9000 check rides, and more than 60,000 flight hours. Just had a very long call from my friend Mz Evelyn. She could hear quite well, and seemed very perky. Has accommodated well to her prothesis, and has been back working at the airport, as Manager, for several months, and very glad to be back. Not driving, though. And not flying. She was so set up by her recent award, getting Three standing ovations...while others got none! Well deserved me thinks. Got taken there/back in a new twin...I missed type. She will be honored by Stinson 108 nat. group in DC, but wisely won't try the miserable A/ Ls. They said they'd mail the award. She has lots of time in the 108. She still hasn't returned to her home, staying at rehab(?) or at least in a place that will do for her what she shouldn't have to do. She will be NINETY-EIGHT 11/4! Since she's back at the airport: Box1013, Morristown TN 37816 will reach her. How about sending her a card? regards, Bob N. FireFly 070 Old Kolb http://www.angelfire.com/rpg/ronoy/ ________________________________ Message 20 ____________________________________ Time: 08:17:16 PM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Re: kee west vcoltage regulator?? From: "R. Hankins" I've got 440 hrs on mine so far. No problems. It doesn't have a lot of load on it though. I only use it to power the Hobbs hour meter, 12V fuel pump, and tachometer. -------- Roger in Oregon 1992 KXP 503 - N1782C Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=140007#140007 ________________________________ Message 21 ____________________________________ Time: 08:24:37 PM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Forum running slow? From: "R. Hankins" Is it my connection, or is the Matronics forum site moving much slower than normal? It took about 30 seconds for the inital startup and each thread is taking many seconds to load. I'm on DSL and it is usually almost instantaneous. Anyone else notice a slowdown? Do not Archive -------- Roger in Oregon 1992 KXP 503 - N1782C Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=140008#140008 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message kolb-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/Kolb-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/kolb-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/kolb-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.