---------------------------------------------------------- Kolb-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Mon 10/22/07: 21 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 01:05 AM - Re: Gas, Ethanol and Mr.Funnel (henry.voris) 2. 07:48 AM - Rotax 912 and 100LL (Richard Girard) 3. 08:00 AM - Rotax 912 and Ethanol (Richard Girard) 4. 08:18 AM - Rotax 2 strokes and Ethanol (Richard Girard) 5. 09:48 AM - Re: Lurker on the loose (Robert Dresden) 6. 10:29 AM - Re: Re: Lurker on the loose (gary aman) 7. 10:31 AM - Re: Re: Lurker on the loose (Richard Girard) 8. 10:34 AM - Re: Re: Lurker on the loose (Chuck Stonex) 9. 12:07 PM - Re: Re: Lurker on the loose - open trailer (Jon LaVasseur) 10. 12:15 PM - Finally (pat ladd) 11. 12:24 PM - Re: Lurker on the loose (jb92563) 12. 12:30 PM - Re: Finally (jb92563) 13. 12:37 PM - Re: Lurker on the loose - open trailer (jb92563) 14. 03:30 PM - Re: Lurker on the loose (planecrazzzy) 15. 03:49 PM - Re: Finally (Larry Bourne) 16. 04:17 PM - Re: Re: Lurker on the loose (gary aman) 17. 05:57 PM - Mechanical brakes on Mark II (cristalclear13) 18. 06:33 PM - Re: Finally (N27SB@aol.com) 19. 06:33 PM - Re: Finally (Russ Kinne) 20. 07:14 PM - Kolb Newsletter (cristalclear13) 21. 07:18 PM - Monument Valley tour (Jim Dunn) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 01:05:30 AM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Gas, Ethanol and Mr.Funnel From: "henry.voris" Jack, I like your fueling routine. I'm looking forward to returning to a more relaxed regime when I'm able to get ethanol free fuel. The ethanol/gas mix has given the boaters such fits they've pressured the state, so soon we'll be able to ethanol free fuel at a few sites. (I wonder if I'll have to put floats on her???) I also like your advice about using 2.5 gallon cans... I am constantly eye-balling my fuel cans for contaminates In Arizona I would use Red Line and a dash of Marvel Mystery Oil for my mix. It made the fuel red and it was very easy to see the bottom of a five gallon can. In humid Hawaii I switched to the Pennzoil. It turns the mix blue and I can no longer see the bottom. I think 2.5 gallon cans could be the solution. When your fuel is switched to ethanol, perhaps you might consider a switch in your approach to water in the bottom of the fuel cans... I would not fly on ethanol/gas that has water in the bottom of the can. By absorbing water, the ethanol masks any water in the fuel, until the fuel is saturated and can hold no more. If I can see water at the bottom, I know that fuel has reached it's saturation point, and any additional water or a drop in temperature can cause further failure and separation. Also... (minor point) the water at the bottom of the tank isn't just water. It's water bound up with the ethanol. Without the ethanol the octane rating of the fuel plummets. You said your state will be switching to ethanol/gas at the first of the year. The first of the ethanol/gas into the system should be the most contaminated. It will pick up all the moisture that has accumulated since the system was last purged... When Hawaii first went to ethanol, I got some that filled my float chamber with water/ethanol separate and killed the engine. Lucky it was in my motorcycle. Since then I haven't had a problem. After they've run enough of it through the system, the ethanol should work in favor of delivering "dry" fuel to the customer. I believe that the dangers from ethanol are rather small. (I agree with Jet Pilot, that we don't hear of a lot of planes falling out of the sky because of bum fuel...) With extra care in handling the fuel and the right equipment (gascolator or sump) the problems can be further reduced to a manageable level. Until I can get unadulterated fuel, I'll fly on the stuff.... But I'm not happy about it. There are reasons why neither the FAA nor the EAA will OK flying on an ethanol/gas mix at any ratio... -------- Henry Firefly Five-Charlie-Bravo Do Not Archive Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=141058#141058 ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 07:48:45 AM PST US From: "Richard Girard" Subject: Kolb-List: Rotax 912 and 100LL According to Eric Tucker and Rotax, there are two primary problems with using 100LL in the 912 and both can be dealt with. 1) If the engine is not primarily run on 100LL (up to 30% of time during oil change cycle) change oil and filter at 50 hours. Refer to Line maintenance manual 05-20-00 2.2.7) a) and b) note 1. Greater than 30% of time during oil change cycle, change the oil and filter at 25 hours regardless of oil type. SI-912-016 3.3) page 4 In addition, when using 100LL, semi synthetic oil is recommended. Refer to SI-912-016, page 4. 2) If you run 100LL more than 30% an inspection of the overload clutches at 600 hours. Line maintenance manual 05-20-00, 2.2.5) b), page 8, and 05-50-00, 2.2), page 3. and SB-912-033. ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 08:00:18 AM PST US From: "Richard Girard" Subject: Kolb-List: Rotax 912 and Ethanol Reference: Service Instruction 912-016 Fuel 5) 5.1 In general, oxygen carriers (alcohol additives) are to be avoided. Fuel with more than 5% added must not be used. Rick ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 08:18:40 AM PST US From: "Richard Girard" Subject: Kolb-List: Rotax 2 strokes and Ethanol Reference: Service Instruction 13 UL 94 In general, oxygen carriers (alcohol additives) are to be avoided. Fuel with more than 5% added cannot be used. Rick ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 09:48:01 AM PST US From: "Robert Dresden" Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Lurker on the loose Kolbers, Many thanks to the replies on wing size. The info is just what I need. I'm still debating whether to pull the wings, it's set up to go down the road backwards. My concern is crosswinds and truck turbulence at 100+mph going down the road. All mountainous 2 lane w/limited shoulders. Skinny suckers. Now I'm curious as to how well they follow. Is there experience on the list with carting an open trailer in the wind? Appreciate all comments. And, by the way, this list is GREAT! Just reading about my favorite airplane has gotten me through some rough times. I always knew I'd have one someday. Never let go of your dream! Bob Dresden do not archive On 10/20/07, Robert Dresden wrote: > > Kolb Folks, My name is Bob Dresden , and I've lurked for years. > do not archive > ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 10:29:45 AM PST US From: gary aman Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Lurker on the loose Don't know if this will help you but here goes.have it shrink wrapped at a marina where they do pontoon boats.Saw it done on a n-3 pup that came from Mass. to Fla. on a open flat trailer,and it was clean and dry as well. Robert Dresden wrote: Kolbers, Many thanks to the replies on wing size. The info is just what I need. I'm still debating whether to pull the wings, it's set up to go down the road backwards. My concern is crosswinds and truck turbulence at 100+mph going down the road. All mountainous 2 lane w/limited shoulders. Skinny suckers. Now I'm curious as to how well they follow. Is there experience on the list with carting an open trailer in the wind? Appreciate all comments. And, by the way, this list is GREAT! Just reading about my favorite airplane has gotten me through some rough times. I always knew I'd have one someday. Never let go of your dream! Bob Dresden do not archive On 10/20/07, Robert Dresden wrote: Kolb Folks, My name is Bob Dresden , and I've lurked for years. do not archive ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 10:31:56 AM PST US From: "Richard Girard" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Lurker on the loose Bob, In the last two years I have hauled five aircraft cross county. None of the trips, with the exception of the last were less than a thousand miles. The Kolb Mk III came home in a closed truck with wings attached. This was by far the most successful of the trips. I had the main gear contained so the aircraft would not move and the boom resting on a support so that the tail wheel was off the tuck bed. I realize that this is probably beyond what you want to spend for transport, but it is BY FAR the safest. When we unloaded and set it up, there was not a scratch on it. The Firestar came home on an open trailer. It was nerve wracking and I nearly lost it twice when tie downs failed. No fun. The wings were attached and the tail wheel was padded. There was damage to the aileron and elevator caused when pads were blown out. Not bad, but the aircraft was not flyable when I unloaded it. The Minimax came home on an open trailer with the wings loaded flat, there was minor damage to the paint and the corner of one wing tip was worn a bit. Otherwise no damage, but once again it was a nerve wracking trip. The Trike cam home on an open trailer, but the wing was in a piece of 15" irrigation pipe and the carriage was padded with 1" foam pads and wrapped with tarps. This trip was almost 2,000 miles, and except for the trip across the continental divide on I-80 with its washboard concrete and high winds relatively uneventful. The last was a Challenger II with the wings detached in carpet strip slings. Less than 20 miles before an 18 wheeler passed upwind and the turbulence ripped apart one wing stand and sent a wing flying. Talk about your Oh, **** (fill in your favorite four letter word here) experience. Fortunately CII wings are very light and the damage was relatively minor. Even so it was an all afternoon effort to get the airplane back home and no fun at all. So, my recommendation is get a closed trailer. Fold the wings in as the Kolb was designed. Suspend the boom in a very well padded cradle to take the load off the tail wheel. Remove the prop. Deflate the main gear tires to about 5 or 6 PSI and contain them fore and aft. Pad anything that touches anything else. >From another llife when I was the youngest engineer with the least attachment and got sent to the Yellow Freight packaging lab in KC to film how the company product would fare in shipping, A tar strip is a 6G shock load on a conventionally suspended truck trailer. Do that enough and something is going to give, don't let it be your aircraft. Rick On 10/22/07, Robert Dresden wrote: > > Kolbers, Many thanks to the replies on wing size. The info is just what > I need. I'm still debating whether to pull the wings, it's set up to go > down the road backwards. My concern is crosswinds and truck turbulence at > 100+mph going down the road. All mountainous 2 lane w/limited shoulders. > Skinny suckers. Now I'm curious as to how well they follow. Is there > experience on the list with carting an open trailer in the wind? Appreciate > all comments. And, by the way, this list is GREAT! Just reading about my > favorite airplane has gotten me through some rough times. I always knew I'd > have one someday. Never let go of your dream! > > Bob Dresden > > do not archive > > On 10/20/07, Robert Dresden wrote: > > > > Kolb Folks, My name is Bob Dresden , and I've lurked for years. > > do not archive > > > > * > > > * > > ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 10:34:36 AM PST US From: Chuck Stonex Subject: RE: Kolb-List: Re: Lurker on the loose Robert, when I was talking to him about this Kolb, he told me he had a tran sport trailer for it and that it pulled fine from El Paso. I would use the trailer and not worry about it. It should be fine. I was going to us it to bring it to Iowa after flying around Las Cruses for a while. Good luck. I'm still trying to get my first one too. LEBTFChuck ronics.comSubject: Kolb-List: Re: Lurker on the looseKolbers, Many thanks to the replies on wing size. The info is just what I need. I'm still deba ting whether to pull the wings, it's set up to go down the road backwards. My concern is crosswinds and truck turbulence at 100+mph going down the ro ad. All mountainous 2 lane w/limited shoulders. Skinny suckers. Now I'm curious as to how well they follow. Is there experience on the list with carting an open trailer in the wind? Appreciate all comments. And, by the way, this list is GREAT! Just reading about my favorite airplane has gott en me through some rough times. I always knew I'd have one someday. Never let go of your dream! Bob Dresdendo not archive On 10/20/07, Robert Dresden wrote: Kolb Folks, My name is Bob Dresden , and I've lurked for years. do not arc hive ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 12:07:13 PM PST US From: Jon LaVasseur Subject: RE: Kolb-List: Re: Lurker on the loose - open trailer Hello Bob, I have been trailering a FirestarII mounted nose first on a modified, flat, tilt-deck, open trailer for ten years without mishap or damage. Most trips have been 25 - 300 miles but the last was 3000 from Minnesota to Monument Valley. If you are interested in the design I could send you a drawing or pictures. Firestar503 __________________________________________________ ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 12:15:11 PM PST US From: "pat ladd" Subject: Kolb-List: Finally Hi All, I finally managed to get G-PLAD my Extra back into the air today. Thats 17 months since I drove her into the barn, smashing the port wing and twisting the cage beyond repair. Where does the time go when you are enjoying yourself.? What with waiting for delivery of parts across the pond, construction, and messing about waiting for paperwork from the Popular Flying Assoc. which controls General Aviation in the UK the time has just slipped away Nothing went smoothly of course. I had aranged for the test pilot last Friday. The PFA insisted that the repairs were such that it be treated as a new aircraft. Hence the trouble. Friday dawned with blue skies and MIST. it didn`t clear until nearly mid day. Too late for the test pilot to fly from his home base, do the test and fly home. Cancel until today. Today was overcast. Cloud base high but unbroken grey cloud. Viz not great but just acceptable. Phone message saying the pilot was on his way. i had every bit of paperwork which might be wanted. Cushions, fuel.radio, GPS. Pulled the old lady out of her hanger fitted everything, checked everything. Decided not to run the engine so that the test pilot could check Ts and Ps from cold. Mick, the test pilot duly arrived in his Sonex.Pretty early thank goodness. Dropping it in on about a quarter of my 450 yard strip. Chatted, inspected, andf strapped himself in. I had video recorder waiting for the first turn of the prop. Twitch, twitch, nothing . The door opens. Mick says flat battery. S****t!. I had been fitting the radio about 4 days ago and had left the master switch ON. Trip to local garage, a mile away, where luckily I am on good terms as I buy my petrol there. Borrow giant booster and some jump leads. Long struggle befotre finally getting a kick and away she went. Mick ran a good, thorough check flight and returned for me. The checks have to be run at max weight so I was the excess baggage. The engine again woudnt start. Booster, wifes car, jump leads. Away she goes. We run the test schedule. Everything OK. One tyre gone soft. Back to the garage who pinched a footpump from a customers car to lend to me. During my down time just to add to my problems I had forgotten the annual revalidation of my flying license. So a Handling Test had to be done to prove I could still fly.Mick put me through that and rather to my surprise I found that my landings worked well in spite of a fickle cross wind. I held the throttle so tightly closed dduring my first landing that the engine stopped. Booster, wifes car, jump leads and away again. Finally Mick reckoned that I had sufficiently demonstrated my abilty to control the plane and signed me off. luckily the weather held good or we would never have got in the rquired flying time. Upshott is that I have a plane which has been passed as OK and I have been approved too.. Only have to get the battery on charge and everything will be OK. I hope. Of course we have had 3 weeks of glorious weather. Sunny, blue skies, nil wind warm and pleasant, not fabulous viz. but pretty good. Tomorrow looks good when the battery will be on charge, and then winter will set in. You can bet on it. But still, I am flying Hooray! Cheers Pat ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 12:24:32 PM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Lurker on the loose From: "jb92563" Carefull with shrink wrap....if things shrink too much things will break. I had a collapsed rib just from the Poly-Fiber shrinking to much. Also here is another important note! Trailers flex over their length so be careful not to secure the thing down so rigidly that is does not allow for trailer flexing. I have heard of people having problems when the flexing of the trailer bent parts of the plane that were so secured over their length that the airframe HAD to bend with the trailer as well. Also, when towing, be careful not to exceed the red-line of the aircraft if on an open trailer.....you could get flutter and things flap them self to pieces real fast! My 1800 mile trip had me driving under 70mph in Montana due to a 30mph headwind with gusts to 40. Ray -------- Ray Riverside County, CA Do Not Archive Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=141142#141142 ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 12:30:21 PM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Finally From: "jb92563" Thats great! Congrats Always a good day when you finally get to fly your plane with all the red tape behind and a solid year of flying ahead with any worries. Ray -------- Ray Riverside County, CA Do Not Archive Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=141145#141145 ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 12:37:12 PM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Lurker on the loose - open trailer From: "jb92563" I am using my open glider trailer to transport nose first. Tail first is definitely a mistake.....no mater how well you tie things down. Always nose first on an open bed trailer. Don't ask how I know.....I'm still patching Poly-Fiber holes since my 4 mile distance, 40mph max speed "Short Trip"!!! -------- Ray Riverside County, CA Do Not Archive Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=141150#141150 ________________________________ Message 14 ____________________________________ Time: 03:30:23 PM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Lurker on the loose From: "planecrazzzy" Pictures... I can Haul Azz with the plane on the trailer this was..... Like a fish headed up stream. and the way the trailer and "arm" are set up....it's a gentle ride .. .. .. Gotta Fly... Mike & "Jaz" in MN -------- .. .. .. .. .. Do Not Archive Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=141190#141190 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/loading_firestar_102.jpg http://forums.matronics.com//files/loading_pictures2_542.jpg http://forums.matronics.com//files/firestar_22ft_trailer_10ft_353.jpg ________________________________ Message 15 ____________________________________ Time: 03:49:12 PM PST US From: Larry Bourne Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Finally What an adventure, Pat. I was on the edge of my seat laughing, tho' I'll bet it wasn't funny for you at the time. Congratulations and Good Luck. I hope the good weather holds for you. Lar. pat ladd wrote: > Hi All, > I finally managed to get G-PLAD my Extra back into the air today. > Thats 17 months since I drove her into the barn, smashing the port > wing and twisting the cage beyond repair. > > Where does the time go when you are enjoying yourself.? > > What with waiting for delivery of parts across the pond, construction, > and messing about waiting for paperwork from the Popular Flying Assoc. > which controls General Aviation in the UK the time has just slipped away > > Nothing went smoothly of course. I had aranged for the test pilot last > Friday. The PFA insisted that the repairs were such that it be treated > as a new aircraft. Hence the trouble. > > * > > * ________________________________ Message 16 ____________________________________ Time: 04:17:33 PM PST US From: gary aman Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Lurker on the loose I anchor my Firestar in three places.Straps over the tires and a strap over the boom tube at the support.Long trips I nail two short 2x4 next to the tires so they cant slide side to side.1100 miles to Fla and back for 4 years.No damage ever. Carefull with shrink wrap....if things shrink too much things will break. I had a collapsed rib just from the Poly-Fiber shrinking to much. Also here is another important note! Trailers flex over their length so be careful not to secure the thing down so rigidly that is does not allow for trailer flexing. I have heard of people having problems when the flexing of the trailer bent parts of the plane that were so secured over their length that the airframe HAD to bend with the trailer as well. Also, when towing, be careful not to exceed the red-line of the aircraft if on an open trailer.....you could get flutter and things flap them self to pieces real fast! My 1800 mile trip had me driving under 70mph in Montana due to a 30mph headwind with gusts to 40. Ray -------- Ray Riverside County, CA Do Not Archive Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=141142#141142 ________________________________ Message 17 ____________________________________ Time: 05:57:56 PM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Mechanical brakes on Mark II From: "cristalclear13" Hi Kolbers. I'm trying to fix the brakes on the Mark II I bought before the airworthiness inspection. It's a terrible picture...I'll try to get a better one...but does anyone recognize these brakes? Like who makes them...where can I get replacement pads? The cable was holding that top arm in a "brakes on" position no matter how much I released the tension using the screw on the control stick. When I unscrewed the nut on the top arm of the brake I found the control cable threaded through the hole in the drilled nut. When I took the cable out of the hole, the top arm released the brakes, so it wasn't the arm that was stuck but the cable was holding it. I'll obviously need new brake pads since they weren't stopping her, but don't know why the cable was holding the brakes in the "on" position. I'm trying to fix these the cheapest, easiest, and fastest way possible. -------- Cristal Mark II Twinstar Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=141216#141216 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/brakes2_mark_ii_twinstar_tundra_tire_n193y_198.jpg http://forums.matronics.com//files/brake_control_on_stick_136.jpg ________________________________ Message 18 ____________________________________ Time: 06:33:04 PM PST US From: N27SB@aol.com Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Finally In a message dated 10/22/2007 3:15:57 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, pj.ladd@btinternet.com writes: Chatted, inspected, andf strapped himself in. I had video recorder waiting for the first turn of the prop. Twitch, twitch, nothing . The door opens. Mick says flat battery. S****t!. I had been fitting the radio about 4 days ago and had left the master switch ON. Trip to local garage, a mile away, where luckily I am on good terms as I buy my petrol there. Borrow giant booster and some jump leads. Long struggle befotre finally getting a kick and away she went. Mick ran a good, thorough check flight and returned for me. The checks have to be run at max weight so I was the excess baggage. The engine again woudnt start. Booster, wifes car, jump leads. Away she goes. We run the test schedule. Everything OK. Pat, Don't get me wrong, I love the Brits. My MG,TR7,Daytona Triumph, Fish & Chips and All but we have a saying here: "Don't Mind Da Mule, Jus Load Da Wagon" or the cruder "Get Er Done". But sometimes you can detail a thing to death. Congratulations on your completion but I am thankful for our Freedoms. Get back in the air and enjoy Remember, when all else fails, Fly Da Plane. Steve B Firefly 007/Floats do not archive ________________________________ Message 19 ____________________________________ Time: 06:33:43 PM PST US From: Russ Kinne Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Finally Hooray Hoopray Hooray -- and then summore. Congrats. Pat! -- enjoy your Xtra Russ On Oct 22, 2007, at 3:15 PM, pat ladd wrote: > Hi All, > I finally managed to get G-PLAD my Extra back into the air today. > Thats 17 months since I drove her into the barn, smashing the port > wing and twisting the cage beyond repair. > > Where does the time go when you are enjoying yourself.? > > What with waiting for delivery of parts across the pond, > construction, and messing about waiting for paperwork from the > Popular Flying Assoc. which controls General Aviation in the UK the > time has just slipped away > > Nothing went smoothly of course. I had aranged for the test pilot > last Friday. The PFA insisted that the repairs were such that it be > treated as a new aircraft. Hence the trouble. > Friday dawned with blue skies and MIST. it didn`t clear until > nearly mid day. Too late for the test pilot to fly from his home > base, do the test and fly home. Cancel until today. Today was > overcast. Cloud base high but unbroken grey cloud. Viz not great > but just acceptable. > Phone message saying the pilot was on his way. i had every bit of > paperwork which might be wanted. Cushions, fuel.radio, GPS. > Pulled the old lady out of her hanger fitted everything, checked > everything. Decided not to run the engine so that the test pilot > could check Ts and Ps from cold. > Mick, the test pilot duly arrived in his Sonex.Pretty early thank > goodness. Dropping it in on about a quarter of my 450 yard strip. > Chatted, inspected, andf strapped himself in. I had video recorder > waiting for the first turn of the prop. Twitch, twitch, nothing . > The door opens. Mick says flat battery. S****t!. I had been > fitting the radio about 4 days ago and had left the master switch ON. > Trip to local garage, a mile away, where luckily I am on good > terms as I buy my petrol there. Borrow giant booster and some jump > leads. Long struggle befotre finally getting a kick and away she > went. Mick ran a good, thorough check flight and returned for me. > The checks have to be run at max weight so I was the excess > baggage. The engine again woudnt start. Booster, wifes car, jump > leads. Away she goes. > We run the test schedule. Everything OK. > One tyre gone soft. Back to the garage who pinched a footpump from > a customers car to lend to me. > During my down time just to add to my problems I had forgotten the > annual revalidation of my flying license. So a Handling Test had to > be done to prove I could still fly.Mick put me through that and > rather to my surprise I found that my landings worked well in spite > of a fickle cross wind. I held the throttle so tightly closed > dduring my first landing that the engine stopped. Booster, wifes > car, jump leads and away again. > Finally Mick reckoned that I had sufficiently demonstrated my > abilty to control the plane and signed me off. luckily the > weather held good or we would never have got in the rquired flying > time. > > Upshott is that I have a plane which has been passed as OK and I > have been approved too.. Only have to get the battery on charge and > everything will be OK. > > I hope. Of course we have had 3 weeks of glorious weather. Sunny, > blue skies, nil wind warm and pleasant, not fabulous viz. but > pretty good. Tomorrow looks good when the battery will be on > charge, and then winter will set in. You can bet on it. > > But still, > I am flying Hooray! > > Cheers > > Pat > http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kolb-List_- > ============================================================ _- > forums.matronics.com_- > =========================================================== > ________________________________ Message 20 ____________________________________ Time: 07:14:31 PM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Kolb Newsletter From: "cristalclear13" In the folder/paperwork I was given when I bought my Mark II, I found a couple Kolb Newsletters...one dated Fall 1991 and another one dated July 1, 1995. Is anyone still producing such a newsletter? If so, how would I get one? -------- Cristal Mark II Twinstar Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=141231#141231 ________________________________ Message 21 ____________________________________ Time: 07:18:21 PM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Monument Valley tour From: "Jim Dunn" After hearing about the Monument Valley, I am finally going to go there. I am planning a trip in my 1948 Bonanza to visit my kids in San Diego, and to scout out the Monument Valley area for a trailered visit with my Kolb Firefly. My plan is to be at Monument Valley Jan 6 & 7, 2008. I have seen the classic pictures from that area, but I don't really know any specific place to go. Currently my plan is to take off from UT25 and fly North. Can anybody suggest specific sights to see? For me to have any hope of finding it I will need Lat/Lon coordinates, or bearing/range from a city, feature, or navaid. Thanks. Jim N. 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