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1. 12:18 AM - Re: Trailering a Kolb (Dave Bigelow)
2. 01:13 AM - Light Sport N477DB (Dave Bigelow)
3. 05:28 AM - Re: Firestar II - Legal now (ElleryWeld@aol.com)
4. 05:29 AM - Re: Firestar II - Legal now (ElleryWeld@aol.com)
5. 05:44 AM - Re: Firestar II - Legal now (Aaron Gustafson)
6. 06:27 AM - Re: Re: Trailering a Kolb (gary aman)
7. 08:35 AM - Help with level flight attitude for Mark II (cristalclear13)
8. 08:42 AM - Re: Help with level flight attitude for Mark II (ElleryWeld@aol.com)
9. 08:43 AM - Re: Firestar II - Legal now (planecrazzzy)
10. 08:55 AM - Re: I really love Ivo Props, now (planecrazzzy)
11. 09:11 AM - Re: flying VG's (John Hauck)
12. 10:08 AM - Re: Help with level flight attitude for Mark II (possums)
13. 12:22 PM - Re: Re: Finally (pat ladd)
14. 12:29 PM - Re: Space for radio mounting (pat ladd)
15. 02:00 PM - Re: Finally (JetPilot)
16. 02:02 PM - Re: Space for radio mounting (Richard & Martha Neilsen)
17. 02:20 PM - Re: flying VG's (JetPilot)
18. 02:53 PM - Re: Ivo Props (JetPilot)
19. 03:19 PM - Re: Space for radio mounting (John Codd)
20. 03:35 PM - Re: Re: Finally ()
21. 03:47 PM - Re: flying VG's (John Hauck)
22. 03:50 PM - Re: Re: flying VG's (Jack B. Hart)
23. 07:19 PM - I am getting a Kolb MK III!! (grantr)
24. 09:06 PM - Re: Re: flying VG's ()
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Subject: | Re: Trailering a Kolb |
A simple way to take the load off the tail wheel and the wing fold tube when trailering
is to put an inner tube between the trailer bed and the leading edges
of the wing in the area of the wing fold tube. Tie down the tail wheel to the
trailer and then inflate the tube. Inflate the tube enough to remove about
half (or a little more) of the weight from the tail wheel. You get a spring effect
from the inflated tube and the tailwheel strut, but not enough to bend things.
You can put a piece of plastic sheet or a soft piece of fabric between
the tube and the LE of the wings to prevent chafing.
This has worked pretty well for me, but I haven't trailed thousands of miles like
some on this list have.
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Dave Bigelow
Kamuela, Hawaii
FS2, HKS 700E
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Subject: | Light Sport N477DB |
My Firestar II is now a legal ELSA. Just finished up the paperwork and inspection
with a local FAA inspector. As far a I know we don't have any ELSA DAR's
here in Hawaii. I used the package from Rainbow Aviation, and some other web
sources. I have a PDF file of all the paperwork that went to the local FSDO,
if anyone would like for me to post it.
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Dave Bigelow
Kamuela, Hawaii
FS2, HKS 700E
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Subject: | Re: Firestar II - Legal now |
holy crap does your DAR want to go on a vacation to Maine that is cheap I
know of a lot of guys looking at a long wait that would like to get there
inspection done especially at that price
Ellery in Maine Building MK3Xtra
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Subject: | Re: Firestar II - Legal now |
Congats on your being legal now
Ellery in Maine
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Subject: | Re: Firestar II - Legal now |
I know I have a wonderful DAR. He does not charge for inspections or
even transportation. He is also a EAA Tech Counselor, an instructor of
aviation technologies at a university, an A&P and a retired airforce
colonel (sp).
Aaron Gustafson
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From: ElleryWeld@aol.com
To: kolb-list@matronics.com
Sent: Saturday, October 27, 2007 7:27 AM
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Firestar II - Legal now
holy crap does your DAR want to go on a vacation to Maine that is
cheap I know of a lot of guys looking at a long wait that would like to
get there inspection done especially at that price
Ellery in Maine Building MK3Xtra
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Subject: | Re: Trailering a Kolb |
Simple is better when it comes to trailering.I have a picture of a support system
on Barnstormers for a Firestar under fs 2 w/custom trlr.The smoothest ride
in a trailer is the mid point between the trailer axles and the towing unit rear
axle.Back it in, anchor the tires and let the aircraft suspension work.Put
the tube support in the mid point.It removes all shock loads from the tube.
A simple way to take the load off the tail wheel and the wing fold tube when trailering
is to put an inner tube between the trailer bed and the leading edges
of the wing in the area of the wing fold tube. Tie down the tail wheel to the
trailer and then inflate the tube. Inflate the tube enough to remove about
half (or a little more) of the weight from the tail wheel. You get a spring effect
from the inflated tube and the tailwheel strut, but not enough to bend things.
You can put a piece of plastic sheet or a soft piece of fabric between
the tube and the LE of the wings to prevent chafing.
This has worked pretty well for me, but I haven't trailed thousands of miles like
some on this list have.
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Dave Bigelow
Kamuela, Hawaii
FS2, HKS 700E
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Subject: | Help with level flight attitude for Mark II |
Hi guys. I am trying to do my weight and balance today for my Mark II. I don't
have any information on what the level flight is. We leveled up the horizontal
stabilizer. I've attached a picture.
Any information (very soon) would be appreciated.
Thanks,
Cristal
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Cristal
Mark II Twinstar
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Subject: | Re: Help with level flight attitude for Mark II |
In a message dated 10/27/2007 11:36:14 AM Eastern Standard Time,
cristalclearwaters@juno.com writes:
http://forums.matronics.com//files/levelflightkolbmarkii_177.jpg
it should be 9 degrees angle of wing cord on a kolb
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Subject: | Re: Firestar II - Legal now |
My inspection was also fairly cheap....$200 bucks
it was in 2005 before the big rush.....??!!
Gotta Fly...
Mike & "Jaz" in MN / FSII-N381PM
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Subject: | Re: I really love Ivo Props, now |
IVO's are simple.....never had a problem with 3 blade or 2 blade....
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Gotta Fly...
Mike & "Jaz" in MN
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Roger H:
Missed you at the Alvord and the Rock House!!!
Your assumption was correct. The top and bottom 1/8 by 1/2" rivet loosens up from
the load of the longest arm of the elevator. With enough time, the rivet
will work its self right through the fabric. The gusset mearly adds a tremendous
amount of strength to this area and prevents slop in the attachment. On 912's
it is usually the left elevator that gets beat up first, and on two strokes
the right elevator.
ADDING GUSSETS TOP AND BOTTOM DO NOT WEAKEN THE RIB AND THE CONNECTION as someone
may have mentioned earlier.
john h
Still having fun in Winnemucca, Nevada.
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John Hauck
MKIII/912ULS
hauck's holler, alabama
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Subject: | Re: Help with level flight attitude for Mark II |
At 11:35 AM 10/27/2007, you wrote:
><cristalclearwaters@juno.com>
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>Hi guys. I am trying to do my weight and balance today for my Mark
>II. I don't have any information on what the level flight is. We
>leveled up the horizontal stabilizer. I've attached a picture.
>
>Any information (very soon) would be appreciated.
>
>Thanks,
Here's an old drawing.
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If it were me, the government, the CAA, or big brother would have never
known that I damaged my plane just so I would not have to jump through so
many hoops to get it back into the air>>
Hi Mike,
there is a lot to be said for your position, but what would have been the
situation regarding your insurance? I have received the full amount of the
rebuilding costs and will receive the recertificatiion costs when I have
rendered the complete figures. The insurers will also know that my plane has
been rebuilt to an acceptable standard and will continue to cover it, and
me.
A few years ago mind I would have probably been flying without waiting for
the last bits of paperwork etc to be tidied up but I reckon I am on
borrowed time at this point anyway and I am not going to push my luck.
Incidentally, since April we have moved somewhat closer to your system by
starting a `single seat deregulated` category.. Not quite `build your own
and fly it` but the parameters are these.
single seat
Max empty weight (no pilot or fuel) 115kgs
Max wing loading (no pilot of fuel) 10kg/sq.metre
Must have 11.5 sq metre wing area
Max weight 300kg (330 off water)
Must be insured 3rd party (about $5 a week for 750,000 cover).
pilot must have a license
Valid Noise Certificate. (Noise is a real problem in Europe generally
Must keep usual airframe and engine log book
Max stall speed at MTOW 35knots
If you can do all that you do not need a Certificate of Airworthiness and
you can alter, re engine or whatever takes your fancy.
I wouldn`t dare make a judgement.as to which system is better, particularly
after being rowelled for my `Un American comments` on a previous occasion.
(A charge I strongly deny). We shall never get the freedom which you enjoy
in the States but I don`t think that it is all roses in the States. Whatever
our shortcomings we are certainly not facing the situation where a pilot
would rather cut up a plane that sell it because of the legal ramifications
which was discussed on this list a short while ago.
But I would ceertainly vote for an injection of some of your more free and
easy system into our rather overcontrolled way of doing things.
Cheers
Pat
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Subject: | Re: Space for radio mounting |
John Codd,
Sorry I dont have your home address.
Mick told me when he was test flying my plane last week that you had
found someone to install a noise reduction circuit in your existing
headphones.
Can you let me have details please. I am using Communica.
Come back off list if you like
Pat
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Pat,
You are very right about our legal system being corrupt and out of control. What
we have is a system of legal extortion where people can take money from others
and companies without just cause. I say legal extortion, because many cases
are settled out of court, not on values of justice, but to avoid wasting even
more money in legal costs.
Most people here do not even comprehend how limited we are here in the US because
of this system. No diving boards in pools anymore, no going outside of the
lines in parks, many products not available, the list is endless.
In a civil suit, most of the smart, successful people know how to get out of jury
duty, the plaintiffs lawyers then throw out any remaining jurors that appear
smart, and try to keep the stupid ones that can be manipulated.
THIS RESULTS IN US LAW BEING DECIDED BY GROUPS OF 6 OF THE STUPIDEST PEOPLE THAT
CAN BE FOUND.
The other bad result is a national policy of everything in the county being geared
towards the dumbest, most incompetent people that can be found, rather than
gearing things for average people.
Man what a difference life was in places where lawsuits dont affect every aspect
of daily life, and where everyone does not base every action in fear of being
sued. That is freedom.
Mike
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"NO FEAR" - If you have no fear you did not go as fast as you could
have !!!
Kolb MK-III Xtra, 912-S
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Subject: | Re: Space for radio mounting |
Pat
I'm not John but I have been flying for better than 6 years with a noise
canceling kit I added to my Sigtronics headset. I find it works quite
well. It is http://www.headsetsinc.com/
Congratulations on getting your plane flying again. Remember keep a hand
on the throttle when getting in or out of a running Kolb.
Rick Neilsen
Redrive VW powered MKIIIC
----- Original Message -----
From: pat ladd
To: kolb-list@matronics.com
Sent: Saturday, October 27, 2007 3:30 PM
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Space for radio mounting
John Codd,
Sorry I dont have your home address.
Mick told me when he was test flying my plane last week that you had
found someone to install a noise reduction circuit in your existing
headphones.
Can you let me have details please. I am using Communica.
Come back off list if you like
Pat
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I did not know you were doing cross country this late in the year, Where are you
flying to John ? Is the colder weather giving you any problems ?
Mike
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"NO FEAR" - If you have no fear you did not go as fast as you could
have !!!
Kolb MK-III Xtra, 912-S
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gaman(at)att.net wrote:
>
> Had a antenna fail and the prop caught the whip as it was leaving the scene.About
a 3/16 dent in the leading edge of one blade under the metal taped section.
IVO said remove tape,sand dent smooth; clean with acetone,fill with epoxy (JB
Weld) after cured,sand with block reapply new tape.That was 3yrs,150 hrs ago.
> IVO said I could send it in but that is how they would fix it as well.Could
you not repair a Warp or Powerfin this way?
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First, my warp drive has nickel leading edges, so damage would have been far less,
and it would have gotten me home.
Second, with what these airplanes cost, I would much rather spend 200 bucks for
a new blade than try to repair an old one, I would always wonder if it would
fail in flight. A prop failure usually results in total disaster, so I would
have not enjoyed the 3 years and 150 hours flying on a repaired prop.
A new blade for the warp drive is around 200 bucks when all is said and done.
If 200 dollars for a new blade is a reason to use a substandard prop, then you
probably are to poor to fly safely.
Mike
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"NO FEAR" - If you have no fear you did not go as fast as you could
have !!!
Kolb MK-III Xtra, 912-S
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Subject: | Re: Space for radio mounting |
Hi Pat, yes I've had an ANR kit fitted to both of my Lynx headsets now
and the difference is incredible, the kolb is a noisy aircraft and for
me radio work was difficult because of damaged hearing from working in
heavy industry until my early retirement 4yrs ago, since having the kit
fitted I can now hear my radio clearly and the background noise of the
aircraft is reduced to a very acceptable low level, worth every penny
spent, the company is called AD Commcepts in Stalybridge near
Manchester, their phone number is 01613038000, and their web site
address is www.adcommcepts.co.uk they also do their own headset fitted
with ANR at a reasonable price, enjoy the Mk3 Extra.
John.
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From: pat ladd
To: kolb-list@matronics.com
Sent: Saturday, October 27, 2007 8:30 PM
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Space for radio mounting
John Codd,
Sorry I dont have your home address.
Mick told me when he was test flying my plane last week that you had
found someone to install a noise reduction circuit in your existing
headphones.
Can you let me have details please. I am using Communica.
Come back off list if you like
Pat
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Whatever
> our shortcomings we are certainly not facing the situation where a pilot
> would rather cut up a plane that sell it because of the legal ramifications
> which was discussed on this list a short while ago.
>
> Cheers
>
> Pat
Patrick:
I would think that your reference above is a very isolated incident. Yep, we have
some paranoid weirdos here in the States that would go that far. I know of
one that was on the Kolb List. Cut up the fabric on the wings and cut the N
number out of the rudder before he would sell the airplane.
Based on the amount of experimental and UL aircraft that change hands in the US,
again, that would be a very isolated incident.
john h
hauck's holler remote, Winnemucca, Nevada
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Mike B:
I am ground bound. Not flying, except loaners.
john h
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John Hauck
MKIII/912ULS
hauck's holler, alabama
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John,
How many hours did it take for this to be noticeable?
Jack B. Hart FF004
Winchester, IN
At 09:11 AM 10/27/07 -0700, you wrote:
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>Roger H:
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>Missed you at the Alvord and the Rock House!!!
>
>Your assumption was correct. The top and bottom 1/8 by 1/2" rivet loosens up
from the load of the longest arm of the elevator. With enough time, the rivet
will work its self right through the fabric. The gusset mearly adds a tremendous
amount of strength to this area and prevents slop in the attachment. On
912's it is usually the left elevator that gets beat up first, and on two strokes
the right elevator.
>
>ADDING GUSSETS TOP AND BOTTOM DO NOT WEAKEN THE RIB AND THE CONNECTION as someone
may have mentioned earlier.
>
>john h
>Still having fun in Winnemucca, Nevada.
>
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>John Hauck
>MKIII/912ULS
>hauck's holler, alabama
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>http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=142166#142166
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Subject: | I am getting a Kolb MK III!! |
After a long search for a Kolb Mark III in my price range, I finally found one!
Its a 1996 Kolb Mark III with a rotax 503. It also comes with a enclosed trailer!
So now I will have the plane and Hangar.
I plan to get it during the thanksgiving holiday. Its a 800 mile 12hr drive :?
Long Drive, But a road trip might be fun!
I have 50 hr private pilot training in a Cessna 150. The lat time i flew was in
1999. So now I am going to just get my SP license for now. I have met all of
the requirements except taking the written and practical test.
i just need some lessons to freshen up.
Kolbs website has these specs under the MKIII classic but the specs say there for
the MKIII X.
Are these specs correct for the MKIII classic?
Is there any difference in a 1996 and a newer one?
ROTAX 582
Takeoff Distance 150 ft. solo, 200 ft. dual
Rate of Climb 1,000 fpm solo, 800 fpm dual
Cruise Speed: Is it 67 or 77 mph ?
SPECIFICATIONS
Wing Span 30 ft.
Wing Area 160 sq. ft.
Length 24 ft. (same folded)
Height 76 in. (same folded)
Width 82 in. (folded, 2-blade prop)
Gross Weight 850 lbs. normal, 1000 lbs. max.
Fuel Capacity 10 gal.
Load Factor +4g, -2g (limit);+6g, -3g(ultimate)
Stall Speed 38 mph (solo), 41 mph @ gross weight
Vne 110 mph
Here are some pics of it.
(http://www.putfile.com/pic.php?img=6962318)
(http://www.putfile.com/pic.php?img=6962330)
(http://www.putfile.com/pic.php?img=6962321)
(http://www.putfile.com/pic.php?img=6962343)
(http://www.putfile.com/pic.php?img=6962334)
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> How many hours did it take for this to be noticeable?
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> Jack B. Hart FF004
Jack H:
I can not remember how many hours when the 1/8 X 1/2" rivets started loosening
up. Probably 2, 3, or 4oo hours. Not sure. Would have to dig it out of my
log book which back in Alabama.
I drilled out and replaced the rivets a couple times before I finally came up with
the idean to gusset them top and bottom. I also did the same on the rudder.
Had the same problem with my original FS. Did not fly the US long enough to notice
a problem.
The MKIII may be more prone to stress on the elevator due to the heavier weight
and higher speeds.
john h
mkIII
Winnemucca, Nevada
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