---------------------------------------------------------- Kolb-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Tue 10/30/07: 47 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 03:22 AM - Re: Re: Finally (pat ladd) 2. 03:24 AM - Re: I Passed - Really! (pat ladd) 3. 03:37 AM - Re: Re: flying VG's (pat ladd) 4. 04:41 AM - Re: Coolant Temperature Control (Jack B. Hart) 5. 04:56 AM - Re: Re: Finally (Russ Kinne) 6. 06:52 AM - Re: Light Sport N477DB (John Hauck) 7. 06:53 AM - Requests for copies of registration and airworthiness certificates (Richard Girard) 8. 07:09 AM - Re: :: Help Needed regarding Kolb Mark III Extra :: () 9. 07:36 AM - Re: :: Help Needed regarding Kolb Mark III Extra :: (David Key) 10. 07:40 AM - Re: Requests for copies of registration and airworthiness certificates (Mike Welch) 11. 08:03 AM - Re: :: Help Needed regarding Kolb Mark III Extra :: (Mike Welch) 12. 08:12 AM - Re: Requests for copies of registration and airworthiness certificates (Russ Kinne) 13. 08:20 AM - Re: Requests for copies of registration and airworthiness certificates (flykolb) 14. 08:27 AM - Re: Requests for copies of registration and airworthiness certificates (herbgh@juno.com) 15. 09:13 AM - Re: Requests for copies of registration and airworthiness certificates (David Key) 16. 09:26 AM - Re: Requests for copies of registration and airworthiness certif (faisalasif) 17. 09:29 AM - Re: Requests for copies of registration and airworthiness certi (faisalasif) 18. 09:32 AM - Re: :: Help Needed regarding Kolb Mark III Extra :: (faisalasif) 19. 09:37 AM - Re: Re: Requests for copies of registration and airworthiness certif (Richard Girard) 20. 09:40 AM - Re: Re: :: Help Needed regarding Kolb Mark III Extra :: (Mike Welch) 21. 09:51 AM - faisal (robert bean) 22. 10:13 AM - Re: :: Kolb aircrafts that have N-number registrations :: (Mike Welch) 23. 10:57 AM - Re: :: Kolb aircrafts that have N-number registrations :: (faisalasif) 24. 11:21 AM - Welcome aboard!! (Mike Welch) 25. 11:29 AM - Re: Requests for copies of registration and airworthiness certif (faisalasif) 26. 11:39 AM - Re: Welcome aboard!! (faisalasif) 27. 11:40 AM - Re: faisal (faisalasif) 28. 11:46 AM - Re: Grand Vortex Generator Challenge (faisalasif) 29. 11:56 AM - Re: Welcome aboard!! (George Bass) 30. 12:03 PM - Re: Re: :: Kolb aircrafts that have N-number registrations :: (Travis Brown (Kolb Aircraft)) 31. 12:20 PM - Re: :: Kolb aircrafts that have N-number registrations :: (faisalasif) 32. 12:26 PM - Re: Welcome aboard!! (faisalasif) 33. 12:43 PM - Re: Rebuilding a MK-3 (Aaron Gustafson) 34. 01:20 PM - Insurance details (Kirby Dennis Contr MDA/AL) 35. 03:55 PM - Re: Re: Welcome aboard!! (George Bass) 36. 04:48 PM - Re: faisal (possums) 37. 04:49 PM - Kolb NO Gap seal (ElleryWeld@aol.com) 38. 05:59 PM - Re: faisal (Richard Pike) 39. 06:08 PM - Re: faisal (thumb) 40. 07:11 PM - Great place for Kolbs...odd request. (Mike Welch) 41. 07:41 PM - Last Flight of the Year (Jim ODay) 42. 07:59 PM - Re: Great place for Kolbs...odd request. (Robert Laird) 43. 08:20 PM - Re: Great place for Kolbs...odd request. (Richard Pike) 44. 08:28 PM - Re: Light Sport N477DB (Dave Bigelow) 45. 08:33 PM - Re: Great place for Kolbs...odd request. (HShack@aol.com) 46. 09:03 PM - Re: Great place for Kolbs...odd request. (Richard & Martha Neilsen) 47. 09:11 PM - Re: Kolb NO Gap seal (Richard & Martha Neilsen) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 03:22:53 AM PST US From: "pat ladd" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Finally Seems to me other civilizations in the past have gotten too liberal/nutty and then been taken over by the barbarians.>> Too late Russ, the barbarians are already inside the gates. Pat ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 03:24:46 AM PST US From: "pat ladd" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: I Passed - Really! ust forge a solo endorsement there are lots of pilots that do, you can make up a lot of them on small stickers then just put them in your log book every 3 month or so. >> Jeez, what an idiot.This is a joke , right? Pat ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 03:37:48 AM PST US From: "pat ladd" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: flying VG's You know, prime rib, boiled shrimp (peeled and deveined), choclate eclairs, cream horns, and a very large slice of cherry topped new york cheese cake>> John, you just spoiled your street cred. I had you down as really roughing it on your trips around the country. Chewing on jerky and beans and sleeping in a hammock with a rifle at your side to keep the critters away.. Rainbow room... huh! Cheers Pat ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 04:41:06 AM PST US From: "Jack B. Hart" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Coolant Temperature Control OOPs! Jack B. Hart Winchester, IN do not archive At 11:11 PM 10/29/07 -0400, you wrote: > >Jack, > >I was referring to the original message about the Geo Metro engine. > >Steven > > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Jack B. Hart" >To: >Sent: Monday, October 29, 2007 10:58 PM >Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Coolant Temperature Control > > >> >> From: "Steven Green" >> >> I must be missing something. Does the coolant system not have a >> thermostat? >> >> Steven, >> >> No, it does not. >> >> Jack B. Hart FF004 >> Winchester, IN >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 04:56:03 AM PST US From: Russ Kinne Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Finally EGAD!! We'll have to move outside the gatres. Where are they? Russ On Oct 30, 2007, at 6:22 AM, pat ladd wrote: > > Seems to me other civilizations in the past have gotten too > liberal/nutty and then been taken over by the barbarians.>> > > Too late Russ, > the barbarians are already inside the gates. > > Pat > > ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 06:52:48 AM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Light Sport N477DB From: "John Hauck" Dave B: Difficult to work the email system on the road. Do you know Faisal? please list all aircrafts with types that have N number registrations. kindly list the complete N number with make and model." "you must have received an airworthiness certificate? can we see a copy of it?" Any idea why he needs "your" personal copies of aircraft registration. Wonder why Faisal wants a copy of your Airworthiness Certificate? I can't think of a reason he would need that. Maybe Faisal will share with us who he is, where he is, and why he needs copies of documents that are signed off by the FAA. I, for one, am very curious. john h somewhere between Wendover and Moab. -------- John Hauck MKIII/912ULS hauck's holler, alabama Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=142716#142716 ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 06:53:08 AM PST US From: "Richard Girard" Subject: Kolb-List: Requests for copies of registration and airworthiness certificates Guys and Gals, Call it my suspicious nature, but something about this guy, Faisal, just doesn't feel right. First he wants to know about "moving" registrations. Then he wants copies of papers. Now, he wants copies of airworthiness certificates. Why? All this can be had from the EAA or Rainbow Aviation Services for a nominal charge, and either packet includes sample documents. Why does he need copies of actual airworthiness certificates? Do what you want, but something stinks about this. If I'm wrong, I'll apologize, but we all get "Nigerian" offers in our email from time to time, and we know how those turn out. RIck ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 07:09:47 AM PST US From: Subject: Re: Kolb-List: :: Help Needed regarding Kolb Mark III Extra :: Rick G: Faisal is using a Pakistani email address. Still extremely curious why he needs documentation he has requested. Is he going to register his Kolb in Pakistan under US regs? Waiting for Faisal to share his info with us. ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 07:36:13 AM PST US From: David Key Subject: RE: Kolb-List: :: Help Needed regarding Kolb Mark III Extra :: Exactly what I was thinking watch out on this one.> Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2007 08:09:29 -0600> From: jhauck@elmore.rr.com> To: kolb-list@matronics.com> Su bject: Re: Kolb-List: :: Help Needed regarding Kolb Mark III Extra ::> > -- l is using a Pakistani email address.> > Still extremely curious why he nee ds documentation he has requested.> > Is he going to register his Kolb in P akistan under US regs? > > Waiting for Faisal to share his info with us.> > ==========> > > ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 07:40:30 AM PST US From: Mike Welch Subject: RE: Kolb-List: Requests for copies of registration and airworthiness certificates Mr Rick, I think you're on to something there! Let's see. We get an email from someone new to our group who wants a complete list of all types of aircraft with "N" numbers, AND completed copies of all the forms needed for a thorough registration. Hmm? If a person were to have a copy of every correct, completed form and revised these forms on a "Word" program, using their own new fake numbers and information (to show the authorities), then it would be entirely possible a person could just steal a completed plane, change the N number and all forms, and fly it across the border...and they're home free. In the course of ONE day, someone could APPEAR to be completely legal and in posession of a brand new airplane, in their own name, with all the (forged) documents to prove it. Explain to me why we don't have the guillotine anymore. I'll help pay for the wood!!! Mike Welch ________________________________ From: jindoguy@gmail.com Subject: Kolb-List: Requests for copies of registration and airworthiness certificates Guys and Gals, Call it my suspicious nature, but something about this guy, Faisal, just doesn't feel right. First he wants to know about "moving" registrations. Then he wants copies of papers. Now, he wants copies of airworthiness certificates. Why? All this can be had from the EAA or Rainbow Aviation Services for a nominal charge, and either packet includes sample documents. Why does he need copies of actual airworthiness certificates? Do what you want, but something stinks about this. If I'm wrong, I'll apologize, but we all get "Nigerian" offers in our email from time to time, and we know how those turn out. RIck _________________________________________________________________ Help yourself to FREE treats served up daily at the Messenger Caf. Stop by today. http://www.cafemessenger.com/info/info_sweetstuff2.html?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_OctWLtagline ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 08:03:10 AM PST US From: Mike Welch Subject: RE: Kolb-List: :: Help Needed regarding Kolb Mark III Extra :: The FIRST clue that this guy doesn't have any knowledge about Kolbs is he referred to the plane as "EXTRA"!!! Every intelligent true Kolber knows it is spelled "Xtra"....notice the lack of "E". It was left off deliberately. If he spelled Cessna; Ceessna, or Titan; Titane, or Kitfox; Kitefox, these would have all been clues he really doesn't anything at all about airplanes. He might also have messed up if he referred to it as MkIIIE. Mike Welch From: dhkey@msn.com Subject: RE: Kolb-List: :: Help Needed regarding Kolb Mark III Extra :: Exactly what I was thinking watch out on this one. > Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2007 08:09:29 -0600 > From: jhauck@elmore.rr.com > To: kolb-list@matronics.com > Subject: Re: Kolb-List: :: Help Needed regarding Kolb Mark III Extra :: > > > > Rick G: > > Faisal is using a Pakistani email address. > > Still extremely curious why he needs documentation he has requested. > > Is he going to register his Kolb in Pakistan under US regs? > ============= > > _________________________________________________________________ Peek-a-boo FREE Tricks & Treats for You! http://www.reallivemoms.com?ocid=TXT_TAGHM&loc=us ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 08:12:20 AM PST US From: Russ Kinne Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Requests for copies of registration and airworthiness certificates I'll supply the blade, and sharpen it Russ On Oct 30, 2007, at 10:40 AM, Mike Welch wrote: > > > Mr Rick, > > I think you're on to something there! Let's see. We get an > email from someone new to our group who wants a complete list of > all types of aircraft with "N" numbers, AND completed copies of all > the forms needed for a thorough registration. > Hmm? If a person were to have a copy of every correct, > completed form and revised these forms on a "Word" program, using > their own new fake numbers and information (to show the > authorities), then it would be entirely possible a person could > just steal a completed plane, change the N number and all forms, > and fly it across the border...and they're home free. > In the course of ONE day, someone could APPEAR to be completely > legal and in posession of a brand new airplane, in their own name, > with all the (forged) documents to prove it. > > Explain to me why we don't have the guillotine anymore. I'll > help pay for the wood!!! Mike Welch > > > ________________________________ > Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2007 08:52:53 -0500 > From: jindoguy@gmail.com > To: kolb-list@matronics.com > Subject: Kolb-List: Requests for copies of registration and > airworthiness certificates > > Guys and Gals, Call it my suspicious nature, but something about > this guy, Faisal, just doesn't feel right. > First he wants to know about "moving" registrations. > Then he wants copies of papers. > Now, he wants copies of airworthiness certificates. > Why? All this can be had from the EAA or Rainbow Aviation Services > for a nominal charge, and either packet includes sample documents. > Why does he need copies of actual airworthiness certificates? > Do what you want, but something stinks about this. > If I'm wrong, I'll apologize, but we all get "Nigerian" offers in > our email from time to time, and we know how those turn out. > > RIck > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Help yourself to FREE treats served up daily at the Messenger Caf. > Stop by today. > http://www.cafemessenger.com/info/info_sweetstuff2.html? > ocid=TXT_TAGLM_OctWLtagline > > ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 08:20:29 AM PST US From: "flykolb" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Requests for copies of registration and airworthiness certificates I agree, sounds "funny" to me too. Jim Mark III ----- Original Message ----- From: Richard Girard To: kolb-list@matronics.com Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2007 8:52 AM Subject: Kolb-List: Requests for copies of registration and airworthiness certificates Guys and Gals, Call it my suspicious nature, but something about this guy, Faisal, just doesn't feel right. First he wants to know about "moving" registrations. Then he wants copies of papers. Now, he wants copies of airworthiness certificates. Why? All this can be had from the EAA or Rainbow Aviation Services for a nominal charge, and either packet includes sample documents. Why does he need copies of actual airworthiness certificates? Do what you want, but something stinks about this. If I'm wrong, I'll apologize, but we all get "Nigerian" offers in our email from time to time, and we know how those turn out. RIck ________________________________ Message 14 ____________________________________ Time: 08:27:08 AM PST US Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Requests for copies of registration and airworthiness certificates From: herbgh@juno.com Guys I think Kolb kits have been sold to Pakistan? Likely they have no procedure to register them over there and may simply want to copy the US way of doing things? Paperwork that is.. Can you imagine the response at the FAA if Fisal requested blank copies!! :-) Herb do not archive.. ________________________________ Message 15 ____________________________________ Time: 09:13:39 AM PST US From: David Key Subject: RE: Kolb-List: Requests for copies of registration and airworthiness certificates Then send him your personal information and show your faith.> To: kolb-list @matronics.com> Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2007 10:07:22 -0500> Subject: Re: Kolb-Li st: Requests for copies of registration and airworthiness certificates> Fro uys> > I think Kolb kits have been sold to Pakistan? > > Likely they have n o procedure to register them over there and may> simply want to copy the US way of doing things? Paperwork that is..> > Can you imagine the response a t the FAA if Fisal requested blank> copies!! :-) > > Herb > > do not archiv ============> > > ________________________________ Message 16 ____________________________________ Time: 09:26:55 AM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Requests for copies of registration and airworthiness certif From: "faisalasif" Guys enough is enough!!! I only seeked help from you guys not abuse. Kindly call Kolb talk to travis , donnie or izek ask them who i am ... I am the Authorized Dealer for South East Asia. Now I just wanted to know and publish information on my newsletter to let others know of how easy LSA rules have made it ... Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=142758#142758 ________________________________ Message 17 ____________________________________ Time: 09:29:31 AM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Requests for copies of registration and airworthiness certi From: "faisalasif" Guys enough is enough!!! I only seeked help from you guys not abuse. Kindly call Kolb talk to travis , donnie or izek ask them who i am ... I am the Authorized Dealer for South East Asia. Now I just wanted to know and publish information on my newsletter to let others know of how easy LSA rules have made it ... Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=142759#142759 ________________________________ Message 18 ____________________________________ Time: 09:32:04 AM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Re: :: Help Needed regarding Kolb Mark III Extra :: From: "faisalasif" Guys enough is enough!!! I only seeked help from you guys not abuse. Kindly call Kolb talk to travis , donnie or izek ask them who i am ... I am the Authorized Dealer for South East Asia. Now I just wanted to know and publish information on my newsletter to let others know of how easy LSA rules have made it ... Please feel free to contact me on my email address / phone number available at kolb's website (dealers page). Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=142760#142760 ________________________________ Message 19 ____________________________________ Time: 09:37:10 AM PST US From: "Richard Girard" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Requests for copies of registration and airworthiness certif Faisal, I apologize. Again the info you seek can be had from EAA.org , FAA.org and Rainbow Information Services, http://www.rainbowaviation.com/. Rick On 10/30/07, faisalasif wrote: > > > Guys enough is enough!!! > > I only seeked help from you guys not abuse. > > Kindly call Kolb talk to travis , donnie or izek ask them who i am ... > > I am the Authorized Dealer for South East Asia. > > > Now I just wanted to know and publish information on my newsletter to let > others know of how easy LSA rules have made it ... > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=142758#142758 > > ________________________________ Message 20 ____________________________________ Time: 09:40:12 AM PST US From: Mike Welch Subject: RE: Kolb-List: Re: :: Help Needed regarding Kolb Mark III Extra :: Then if you are a dealer, for God's sake, learn how to spell the gd plane!! Mike > Subject: Kolb-List: Re: :: Help Needed regarding Kolb Mark III Extra :: > From: faisal@pakcyber.com > Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2007 09:31:50 -0700 > To: kolb-list@matronics.com > > > Guys enough is enough!!! > > I only seeked help from you guys not abuse. > > Kindly call Kolb talk to travis , donnie or izek ask them who i am ... > > I am the Authorized Dealer for South East Asia. > Now I just wanted to know and publish information on my newsletter to let others know of how easy LSA rules have made it ... > > Please feel free to contact me on my email address / phone number available at kolb's website (dealers page). > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=142760#142760 > > _________________________________________________________________ Help yourself to FREE treats served up daily at the Messenger Caf. Stop by today. http://www.cafemessenger.com/info/info_sweetstuff2.html?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_OctWLtagline ________________________________ Message 21 ____________________________________ Time: 09:51:30 AM PST US From: robert bean Subject: Kolb-List: faisal My suspicion is that he is actually Beauford who has tired of his old nom de plume. hmmm, heat seekers under a Kolb wing??????? ingenious. On a more serious note, with great regret I start removing parts for tomorrow's wing removal. -and such a lovely day too. Guess I'll run around the neighborhood one more time to warm the oil for the change. My magic mixture is presently 3 qts 20-50 Durablend with one qt 5-30 for the perzactly poifect average weight and pour qualities. Getting hard to find anywhere they stock Valvoline semi-synthetic in 20-50. BB :( ________________________________ Message 22 ____________________________________ Time: 10:13:58 AM PST US From: Mike Welch Subject: RE: Kolb-List: :: Kolb aircrafts that have N-number registrations :: Faisal, There was a time in our (the United States') past when someone could ask an innocent question as you did, and no one would have any reason to wonder why. But, as you should have noticed, our times have changed. First of all, you didn't advise us who you were. Secondly, you want something that could be INCREDIBLY protected. And thirdly, you are from a foreign country, asking for "our" paperwork. Sorry for the wild mind-wonderings, but given that we had virtually NO information about you, and you didn't feel the need to furnish any, what do you expect? We are bombarded continually by every damn scam and dishonest ploy known. As I pondered your initial request, given the forms, and a stolen aircraft, a person could do all kinds of harm. As is custom to this, and any other list, you might feel free to identify yourself, and what your affiliation to Kolb is. Before you come down hard on us for our wild ramblings, consider our suspiscions, and realize what we are up against, in this day and age. And it isn't Colbra, it's Kolbra. And it isn't Extra. It's Xtra. The least you should is how to spell something you sell. Or r u one of those guys that anythun clos is guud enuf? And what you should have asked for is: Where does a person go to get all the information they need to completely learn all the proceedures to license a E-LSA, (or Rick G. email address.) Mike Welch > Subject: Kolb-List: :: Kolb aircrafts that have N-number registrations :: > From: faisal@pakcyber.com > Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2007 21:53:10 -0700 > To: kolb-list@matronics.com > > > please list all aircrafts with types that have N number registrations. > > kindly list the complete N number with make and model. > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=142678#142678 > > _________________________________________________________________ Climb to the top of the charts! Play Star Shuffle: the word scramble challenge with star power. http://club.live.com/star_shuffle.aspx?icid=starshuffle_wlmailtextlink_oct ________________________________ Message 23 ____________________________________ Time: 10:57:25 AM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Re: :: Kolb aircrafts that have N-number registrations :: From: "faisalasif" Dear Mike, Thanks for the kind words :o). I know its not a good time, people do misuse information. In my dealership area we would very soon start building S-LSA version of Mark III Xtra (not Extra), we are mostly through with the governmental registrations and requirements. Secondly, my intentions are to, very soon, launch my own forums, where everyone owning Kolb aircrafts could share idea's and safety information. It will basically target my dealership area but I would love to have you guys around. I am sorry for harsh words if I have used any. Infact I found the forum only a day back, therefore never having the chance to introduce myself. I am grateful to people who email me the information. Please be rest assured that your information is safe with me and would not be misused. Regards, Faisal. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=142778#142778 ________________________________ Message 24 ____________________________________ Time: 11:21:45 AM PST US From: Mike Welch Subject: Kolb-List: Welcome aboard!! Dear Faisal, Thanks for the background information on your dealership. I am pleased to find out your request for information is an honest request. Welcome to the Kolb builder's chat forum, (although I don't represent anyone else, and I'm not the group's spokeperson :-/ ) I am sure all of us here wish you the absolute very best regarding the Kolb sales in your area. The more Kolbs sold, the better for all of us. Certainly, increased sales, even overseas, keeps the Kolb factory busy. And, to us, that is a really good thing. Glad all the confusion is cleared up. To use an old navy expression........welcome aboard!!! Mike Welch SW Utah, Kolb MkIIIClassic w/ turbo Suzuki 1.0L90%, 90% finished, 80% to go. > Subject: Kolb-List: Re: :: Kolb aircrafts that have N-number registrations :: > From: faisal@pakcyber.com > Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2007 10:56:59 -0700 > To: kolb-list@matronics.com > > > Dear Mike, > > Thanks for the kind words :o). > > I know its not a good time, people do misuse information. > > In my dealership area we would very soon start building S-LSA version of Mark III Xtra (not Extra), we are mostly through with the governmental registrations and requirements. > > Secondly, my intentions are to, very soon, launch my own forums, where everyone owning Kolb aircrafts could share idea's and safety information. It will basically target my dealership area but I would love to have you guys around. > > I am sorry for harsh words if I have used any. > > Infact I found the forum only a day back, therefore never having the chance to introduce myself. > > I am grateful to people who email me the information. Please be rest assured that your information is safe with me and would not be misused. > > Regards, > > Faisal. > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=142778#142778 > > _________________________________________________________________ Climb to the top of the charts! Play Star Shuffle: the word scramble challenge with star power. http://club.live.com/star_shuffle.aspx?icid=starshuffle_wlmailtextlink_oct ________________________________ Message 25 ____________________________________ Time: 11:29:57 AM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Requests for copies of registration and airworthiness certif From: "faisalasif" Dear Rick, Please you don't have to apologize for it. In fact, I should apologize, I never thought of how people would react to partial information. It seems all of you are a very closely knitted family, which i would be honored to join, if permitted. I apologize again for the harsh words. Regards, Faisal faisal (at) scaled.com.pk Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=142786#142786 ________________________________ Message 26 ____________________________________ Time: 11:39:08 AM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Welcome aboard!! From: "faisalasif" Dear Mike, I am grateful for your kind gesture. Its heartening to know that everyone here is a part of a closely knitted family, which I am honored to have joined( if other accept :) ). I apologize again for the harsh words. I understand that it was mostly my mistake, I never realized how people would react to partial information. Hoping to contribute a lot towards safety, Regards, Faisal faisal (at) scaled.com.pk Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=142788#142788 ________________________________ Message 27 ____________________________________ Time: 11:40:36 AM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Re: faisal From: "faisalasif" :) Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=142789#142789 ________________________________ Message 28 ____________________________________ Time: 11:46:29 AM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Grand Vortex Generator Challenge From: "faisalasif" sea foam is polystyrene. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=142790#142790 ________________________________ Message 29 ____________________________________ Time: 11:56:36 AM PST US From: "George Bass" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Welcome aboard!! This little 'rub' concerning the "Faisal" thing is very interesting. Mr Faisal was very quick to send requests for enough information to make almost any Kolb appear to be LEGAL, but, did not have enough time to view ANY of the list policies or procedures, let alone any of the previous posts regarding such "little" things as the FAA documentation required. He claims to be a DEALER for the Kolb, but, rather than contact the company whose product he represents, he contacts owners of said product hoping to lure them into offering their own PERSONAL - OFFICIAL - FEDERAL DOCUMENTATION for his benefit.?.! Then has the gall to jump on the members of the list because they think there is "something fishy going on here". Frankly, he (an assumption on my part) sounds much more like a SHADY USED CAR SALESMAN THAN A KOLB DEALER. George (Back to lurking mode) ________________________________ Message 30 ____________________________________ Time: 12:03:25 PM PST US From: "Travis Brown (Kolb Aircraft)" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: :: Kolb aircrafts that have N-number registrations :: Hi Everyone Faisal Asif is a great guy. He has been trying to get a network of dealerships set up for two years now and his people have gave him much trouble. He has a kit setting here for almost two years now and his people want let him take delivery until they are satisfied the Kolb Aircraft is a good proven machine. Everyone on this great list knows Kolb is one of the best. Thanks for all the support. Travis @ Kolb ----- Original Message ----- From: "faisalasif" Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2007 1:56 PM Subject: Kolb-List: Re: :: Kolb aircrafts that have N-number registrations :: > > Dear Mike, > > Thanks for the kind words :o). > > I know its not a good time, people do misuse information. > > In my dealership area we would very soon start building S-LSA version of > Mark III Xtra (not Extra), we are mostly through with the governmental > registrations and requirements. > > Secondly, my intentions are to, very soon, launch my own forums, where > everyone owning Kolb aircrafts could share idea's and safety information. > It will basically target my dealership area but I would love to have you > guys around. > > I am sorry for harsh words if I have used any. > > Infact I found the forum only a day back, therefore never having the > chance to introduce myself. > > I am grateful to people who email me the information. Please be rest > assured that your information is safe with me and would not be misused. > > Regards, > > Faisal. > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=142778#142778 > > > ________________________________ Message 31 ____________________________________ Time: 12:20:56 PM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Re: :: Kolb aircrafts that have N-number registrations :: From: "faisalasif" Dear Travis, Thank you for your kind words. I appreciate the help. Regards, faisal. faisal (at) scaled.com.pk Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=142796#142796 ________________________________ Message 32 ____________________________________ Time: 12:26:05 PM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Welcome aboard!! From: "faisalasif" Dear George, I respect your point of view. But please do not make assumptions about how much someone knows about aircrafts. I hope you will think about it before writing, the next time. Regards, faisal, faisal (at) scaled.com.pk Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=142799#142799 ________________________________ Message 33 ____________________________________ Time: 12:43:26 PM PST US From: "Aaron Gustafson" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Rebuilding a MK-3 And I'm still looking!!! agustafson@chartermi.net MK3 any condition ----- Original Message ----- From: Jim Kmet To: kolb-list@matronics.com Sent: Monday, October 29, 2007 7:39 PM Subject: Kolb-List: Rebuilding a MK-3 As Aaron previously posted on Oct 15th, I too am looking for a MK-3 in need of a rebuild, send what have you to jlsk1@frontiernet.net Thanks, Jim ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----- 10/29/2007 9:28 AM ________________________________ Message 34 ____________________________________ Time: 01:20:13 PM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Insurance details From: "Kirby Dennis Contr MDA/AL" (NOTE - "subject" line was changed, to reflect current thread.) "pat ladd" asked, << but what would have been the situation regarding your insurance? I have received the full amount of the rebuilding costs ... The insurers will also know that my plane has been rebuilt to an acceptable standard and will continue to cover it, and me. >> Pat - I have a similar situation, following my landing on the mud flats. My Mark-III suffered a little damage from the incident, so I called my insurance company (Falcon) and requested to "remove my aircraft from flight status" in order to do some repair and modifications. They promptly refunded to me the unused balance of this year's insurance premium. Because I carry only liability insurance, I am responsible for any repairs that must be done on my plane. Since I'm doing the work myself, after I complete the repairs, I'll certify in my logbook that the plane is again airworthy (a privilege I enjoy with the Repairman's Certificate for this plane, as the builder). Then, I'll pick up the renewal of my insurance where I left off. Easy. Best of all, the insurance doesn't need to know that the plane was involved in any kind of "incident" or "accident." This is good, because regardless if the accident was the pilot's fault or not, insurance companies will always come back and charge you a higher premium, whether they had to pay out or not. You are now considered a higher-risk customer. So, for my particular situation, the system works to my benefit. Dennis Kirby Mark-III Classic, 912ul, Powerfin-72 Cedar Crest, NM ________________________________ Message 35 ____________________________________ Time: 03:55:10 PM PST US From: "George Bass" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Welcome aboard!! Mr Faisal Assif; In reply to your latest message, directed to me, my assumption was that you were a male. My message was that you took it upon yourself to not only put the members of this list in jeopardy to provide you with the information you requested, but, to do so ILLEGALLY. Appearantly, you have (or had, until it was pointed out) no concerns regarding the safety, enjoyment, freedom and responsibilities of the members of this list, perhaps of any list. Your behavior indicated these thoughts. I suppose it could be very different in your country. But, after seeing some of the news programs, worldwide, I would be very surprised if it was any more lenient than it is here in the U.S. of A. No one on this list, myself included, questioned your knowledge about aircraft in general. Only the planes that you were, incorrectly, asking about SPECIFICALLY. I know you will find this hard to believe, but, I really did spend time thinking about whether I should reply to the messages you sent, or not. I decided NOT TO, until YOU DECIDED TO JUMP ON LIST MEMBERS, for the careful, honorable, safety-minded questions that they had stated. I'm glad that someone at the Kolb Company has seen it appropriate to "vouch" for you. I wish you the best success IN YOUR COUNTRY. Frankly, I'm done with this and will not bother answering to it again. Sincerely, George Bass ________________________________ Message 36 ____________________________________ Time: 04:48:49 PM PST US From: possums Subject: Re: Kolb-List: faisal At 12:50 PM 10/30/2007, you wrote: > > My suspicion is that he is actually Beauford who has tired of his >old nom de plume. > >hmmm, heat seekers under a Kolb wing??????? ingenious. What's wrong with that! Don't tell me they've got regs against that to? ________________________________ Message 37 ____________________________________ Time: 04:49:20 PM PST US From: ElleryWeld@aol.com Subject: Kolb-List: Kolb NO Gap seal Click on this link and read below the first pic _BARNSTORMERS.COM_ (http://barnstormers.com/listing_images.php?id 5038) Oh god what should you do this might not be safe "grin grin " pouring gas on a old flame Ellery with nothing better to do right at this moment now back to work laughing do not archive ________________________________ Message 38 ____________________________________ Time: 05:59:46 PM PST US From: "Richard Pike" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: faisal Oh, that picture so has to go in my next EAA chapter newsletter! Richard Pike MKIII N420P (420ldPoops) ----- Original Message ----- From: "possums" Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2007 6:50 PM Subject: Re: Kolb-List: faisal > At 12:50 PM 10/30/2007, you wrote: >> >> My suspicion is that he is actually Beauford who has tired of his >>old nom de plume. >> >>hmmm, heat seekers under a Kolb wing??????? ingenious. > > What's wrong with that! > Don't tell me they've got regs against > that to? ________________________________ Message 39 ____________________________________ Time: 06:08:53 PM PST US From: "thumb" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: faisal I like that one to Richard. I will save that one. Bill Futrell MK111XTRA Brooksville Fl Do not archive ----- Original Message ----- From: "Richard Pike" Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2007 9:55 PM Subject: Re: Kolb-List: faisal > > Oh, that picture so has to go in my next EAA chapter newsletter! > > Richard Pike > MKIII N420P (420ldPoops) > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "possums" > To: > Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2007 6:50 PM > Subject: Re: Kolb-List: faisal > > >> At 12:50 PM 10/30/2007, you wrote: >>> >>> My suspicion is that he is actually Beauford who has tired of >>> his >>>old nom de plume. >>> >>>hmmm, heat seekers under a Kolb wing??????? ingenious. >> >> What's wrong with that! >> Don't tell me they've got regs against >> that to? > > > ________________________________ Message 40 ____________________________________ Time: 07:11:49 PM PST US From: Mike Welch Subject: Kolb-List: Great place for Kolbs...odd request. Fellow Kolbers, At the huge risk of getting all kinds of crap, I'd like to ask this question; What state is just plain wonderful to live in, and fly your Kolb all around? And is also very "affordable". A little background.......as some of you may remember, I recently moved to my present location, (going on a year now). St. George is in the southwest corner of Utah. The closest big city is Las Vegas. Weather is beyond awesome, hills look exactly like Monument Valley, etc., etc. The problem is the local airport just plain stinks!! They are NOT experimental friendly. The Airport Security chief is an a..hole, and frankly, I just don't like it. They cater to propjets, bizjets, and mostly just factory iron. Had I known how rotten the airport is, I wouldn't moved here in the first place. I miss the little airstrips like Northern Idaho had. (I used to live there a few years ago.) Every small town had a little asphalt strip, and there were lots of small towns. Casual. Beautiful scenery. Lousy cold weather, though!! No more cold long winters. Since I am planning on retiring as soon as possible (maybe 3-4 years), I want to start looking for a great place to settle to. I like a rural lifestyle with a reasonably big city not too far away. Mild winters, with just a touch of snow, low humidity, and lots of lakes and rivers. I don't know much about Missouri, but it looks like what I'm after. Lots of green stuff, rolling hills, rivers, etc. I'm really thinking of buying 10-15 acres and having my own runway, if allowed. (I'm a former general contractor.) But, do any of you Kolb guys know anything about the airports and such (In or near Missouri)? I like being involved in the local EAA chapters. I think I've pretty much settled on Missouri, but I wonder about the Alabama, Georgia, & Arkansas region. The weather is not too bad, I just don't know specifically where to look. I really do value your opinions. Please be an advocate for why you like where you are, if you do. I look forward to someday flying my Kolb MkIII to lots and lots of little airstrips, in a state that this provides. Thanks, Mike Welch PS. Please, no northern states, guys. Yes, I know, they're beautiful. But too cold. Been there, done that. PSS. I'm headed to Evergreen, Alabama this Friday. My youngest son, on leave from Afghanistan, is getting married Saturday. I get to look at Alabama on Sunday. Yay! (My distant relatives are from N. Alabama) _________________________________________________________________ Help yourself to FREE treats served up daily at the Messenger Caf. Stop by today. http://www.cafemessenger.com/info/info_sweetstuff2.html?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_OctWLtagline ________________________________ Message 41 ____________________________________ Time: 07:41:07 PM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Last Flight of the Year From: "Jim ODay" Last time this year, unless there is serious Global Warming here. It was in the mid 60's here today and light winds. The high for the rest of the week will top out in the mid-40's. Cut out of work early and went out the the hanger. Fired up my FS for one last flight before it gets too cold. Wow, what a nice afternoon for flying. Absolutely smooth air! Came down for a couple of landings, it was great. Hated to call it a season. I need to be traveling for a few weeks and by the time that ends it will be too cold to fly in the open here. I plan to do some work on her over the winter and while I am at it I plan to add the VG kit I have on my desk. I really am glad that I was able to take advantage of the E-LSA rule window, N24989 flies really well, and I am looking forward to next summer already. I'll be on the sidelines standing by. Fly safe, Jim do not archive -------- Jim O'Day Fargo, ND Firestar II Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=142877#142877 ________________________________ Message 42 ____________________________________ Time: 07:59:59 PM PST US From: "Robert Laird" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Great place for Kolbs...odd request. Fredricksburg, Texas.... fly year 'round, lots of great scenery (but no close mountains). On 10/30/07, Mike Welch wrote: > > > > Fellow Kolbers, > > At the huge risk of getting all kinds of crap, I'd like to ask this > question; What state is just plain wonderful to live in, and fly your Ko lb > all around? And is also very "affordable". > > A little background.......as some of you may remember, I recently move d > to my present location, (going on a year now). St. George is in the > southwest corner of Utah. The closest big city is Las Vegas. Weather is > beyond awesome, hills look exactly like Monument Valley, etc., etc. The > problem is the local airport just plain stinks!! > They are NOT experimental friendly. The Airport Security chief is an > a..hole, and frankly, I just don't like it. > They cater to propjets, bizjets, and mostly just factory iron. Had I > known how rotten the airport is, I wouldn't moved here in the first place .. > > I miss the little airstrips like Northern Idaho had. (I used to live > there a few years ago.) Every small town had a little asphalt strip, an d > there were lots of small towns. Casual. Beautiful scenery. Lousy cold > weather, though!! No more cold long winters. > > Since I am planning on retiring as soon as possible (maybe 3-4 years), I > want to start looking for a great place to settle to. I like a rural > lifestyle with a reasonably big city not too far away. Mild winters, wit h > just a touch of snow, low humidity, and lots of lakes and rivers. > > I don't know much about Missouri, but it looks like what I'm after. > Lots of green stuff, rolling hills, rivers, etc. > I'm really thinking of buying 10-15 acres and having my own runway, if > allowed. (I'm a former general contractor.) > > But, do any of you Kolb guys know anything about the airports and such (I n > or near Missouri)? I like being involved in the local EAA chapters. I > think I've pretty much settled on Missouri, but I wonder about the Alabam a, > Georgia, & Arkansas region. The weather is not too bad, I just don't kn ow > specifically where to look. > > I really do value your opinions. Please be an advocate for why you > like where you are, if you do. I look forward to someday flying my Kolb > MkIII to lots and lots of little airstrips, in a state that this provides .. > > Thanks, Mike Welch > > PS. Please, no northern states, guys. Yes, I know, they're > beautiful. But too cold. Been there, done that. > PSS. I'm headed to Evergreen, Alabama this Friday. My youngest son, on > leave from Afghanistan, is getting married Saturday. I get to look at > Alabama on Sunday. Yay! (My distant relatives are from N. Alabama) > _________________________________________________________________ > Help yourself to FREE treats served up daily at the Messenger Caf=E9. Sto p > by today. > > http://www.cafemessenger.com/info/info_sweetstuff2.html?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_ OctWLtagline > =========== =========== =========== > > ________________________________ Message 43 ____________________________________ Time: 08:20:56 PM PST US From: "Richard Pike" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Great place for Kolbs...odd request. North East Tennessee has an awful lot going for it. great scenery, mild winters, with one or three light snows, mild summers, temps mostly in the 80's, low cost of living, no state income tax, but high sales taxes. Property is reasonable, and many (not all) small airports are light plane friendly. There is a lot of EAA activity around Knoxville, but Knowxville is a traffic nightmare. Morristown, Rogersville, Greenville and Mountain City all have EAA chapters. There are probably twenty five or more grass strips within an hour flying time of me, and I fly slow... Richard Pike MKIII N420P (420ldPoops) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike Welch" Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2007 9:11 PM Subject: Kolb-List: Great place for Kolbs...odd request. > > > Fellow Kolbers, > > At the huge risk of getting all kinds of crap, I'd like to ask this > question; What state is just plain wonderful to live in, and fly your > Kolb all around? And is also very "affordable". > > A little background.......as some of you may remember, I recently moved > to my present location, (going on a year now). St. George is in the > southwest corner of Utah. The closest big city is Las Vegas. Weather is > beyond awesome, hills look exactly like Monument Valley, etc., etc. The > problem is the local airport just plain stinks!! > They are NOT experimental friendly. The Airport Security chief is an > a..hole, and frankly, I just don't like it. > They cater to propjets, bizjets, and mostly just factory iron. Had I > known how rotten the airport is, I wouldn't moved here in the first place. > > I miss the little airstrips like Northern Idaho had. (I used to live > there a few years ago.) Every small town had a little asphalt strip, and > there were lots of small towns. Casual. Beautiful scenery. Lousy cold > weather, though!! No more cold long winters. > > Since I am planning on retiring as soon as possible (maybe 3-4 years), I > want to start looking for a great place to settle to. I like a rural > lifestyle with a reasonably big city not too far away. Mild winters, with > just a touch of snow, low humidity, and lots of lakes and rivers. > > I don't know much about Missouri, but it looks like what I'm after. > Lots of green stuff, rolling hills, rivers, etc. > I'm really thinking of buying 10-15 acres and having my own runway, if > allowed. (I'm a former general contractor.) > > But, do any of you Kolb guys know anything about the airports and such (In > or near Missouri)? I like being involved in the local EAA chapters. I > think I've pretty much settled on Missouri, but I wonder about the > Alabama, Georgia, & Arkansas region. The weather is not too bad, I just > don't know specifically where to look. > > I really do value your opinions. Please be an advocate for why you like > where you are, if you do. I look forward to someday flying my Kolb MkIII > to lots and lots of little airstrips, in a state that this provides. > > Thanks, Mike Welch > > PS. Please, no northern states, guys. Yes, I know, they're beautiful. > But too cold. Been there, done that. > PSS. I'm headed to Evergreen, Alabama this Friday. My youngest son, on > leave from Afghanistan, is getting married Saturday. I get to look at > Alabama on Sunday. Yay! (My distant relatives are from N. Alabama) > _________________________________________________________________ > Help yourself to FREE treats served up daily at the Messenger Caf. Stop > by today. > http://www.cafemessenger.com/info/info_sweetstuff2.html?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_OctWLtagline > > > ________________________________ Message 44 ____________________________________ Time: 08:28:18 PM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Light Sport N477DB From: "Dave Bigelow" Here is a copy of my operating limitations and airworthiness certificate. It's public record, so I don't have a problem putting a copy on the forum. Faisal, Now that we understand who you are and what you are trying to accomplish, I'd like to welcome you to the Kolb list. There's a world of information in the archives (which you can search), and a lot of helpful people here who can answer most questions you might have regarding Kolbs. -------- Dave Bigelow Kamuela, Hawaii FS2, HKS 700E Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=142885#142885 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/operating_limitations_582.pdf ________________________________ Message 45 ____________________________________ Time: 08:33:53 PM PST US From: HShack@aol.com Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Great place for Kolbs...odd request. In a message dated 10/30/2007 10:12:16 PM Eastern Daylight Time, mdnanwelch7@hotmail.com writes: At the huge risk of getting all kinds of crap, I'd like to ask this question; What state is just plain wonderful to live in, and fly your Kolb all around? And is also very "affordable". How about SC? Check out www.trentonflyers.com. Howard Shackleford FS II SC ________________________________ Message 46 ____________________________________ Time: 09:03:41 PM PST US From: "Richard & Martha Neilsen" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Great place for Kolbs...odd request. Mike 1st there is no ideal place. Its either too hot or too cold part of the year no matter where you live. I live in Michigan in the summer and Florida in the winter. Michigan has water everywhere. Everything is green all summer and good flying weather. There are hundreds of LSA and ultralight strips. Property prices are about the lowest in the nation. Florida is about the same in the winter and property prices are better now. So there you have it. Buy a mansion in Michigan for a song and a small place in Florida for the winter. The total cost will be about the same as one place in other parts of the country. Oh yes I'll be selling my place near Lansing, MI with a 1400 ft private strip and hanger in a year or so. Perfect Kolb strip and hanger. Make me an offer. Rick Neilsen Redrive VW powered MKIIIC ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike Welch" Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2007 10:11 PM Subject: Kolb-List: Great place for Kolbs...odd request. > > > Fellow Kolbers, > > At the huge risk of getting all kinds of crap, I'd like to ask this > question; What state is just plain wonderful to live in, and fly your > Kolb all around? And is also very "affordable". > > A little background.......as some of you may remember, I recently moved > to my present location, (going on a year now). St. George is in the > southwest corner of Utah. The closest big city is Las Vegas. Weather is > beyond awesome, hills look exactly like Monument Valley, etc., etc. The > problem is the local airport just plain stinks!! > They are NOT experimental friendly. The Airport Security chief is an > a..hole, and frankly, I just don't like it. > They cater to propjets, bizjets, and mostly just factory iron. Had I > known how rotten the airport is, I wouldn't moved here in the first place. > > I miss the little airstrips like Northern Idaho had. (I used to live > there a few years ago.) Every small town had a little asphalt strip, and > there were lots of small towns. Casual. Beautiful scenery. Lousy cold > weather, though!! No more cold long winters. > > Since I am planning on retiring as soon as possible (maybe 3-4 years), I > want to start looking for a great place to settle to. I like a rural > lifestyle with a reasonably big city not too far away. Mild winters, with > just a touch of snow, low humidity, and lots of lakes and rivers. > > I don't know much about Missouri, but it looks like what I'm after. > Lots of green stuff, rolling hills, rivers, etc. > I'm really thinking of buying 10-15 acres and having my own runway, if > allowed. (I'm a former general contractor.) > > But, do any of you Kolb guys know anything about the airports and such (In > or near Missouri)? I like being involved in the local EAA chapters. I > think I've pretty much settled on Missouri, but I wonder about the > Alabama, Georgia, & Arkansas region. The weather is not too bad, I just > don't know specifically where to look. > > I really do value your opinions. Please be an advocate for why you like > where you are, if you do. I look forward to someday flying my Kolb MkIII > to lots and lots of little airstrips, in a state that this provides. > > Thanks, Mike Welch > > PS. Please, no northern states, guys. Yes, I know, they're beautiful. > But too cold. Been there, done that. > PSS. I'm headed to Evergreen, Alabama this Friday. My youngest son, on > leave from Afghanistan, is getting married Saturday. I get to look at > Alabama on Sunday. Yay! (My distant relatives are from N. Alabama) > _________________________________________________________________ > Help yourself to FREE treats served up daily at the Messenger Caf. Stop > by today. > http://www.cafemessenger.com/info/info_sweetstuff2.html?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_OctWLtagline > > > ________________________________ Message 47 ____________________________________ Time: 09:11:38 PM PST US From: "Richard & Martha Neilsen" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Kolb NO Gap seal Wow This plane has a BMW motor on it. Maybe someone should tell the guy to try it with a gap seal. They might be so happy with the improvement that they would keep it. Rick Neilsen Redrive VW powered MKIIIC ----- Original Message ----- From: ElleryWeld@aol.com To: kolb-list@matronics.com Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2007 7:48 PM Subject: Kolb-List: Kolb NO Gap seal Click on this link and read below the first pic BARNSTORMERS.COM Oh god what should you do this might not be safe "grin grin " pouring gas on a old flame Ellery with nothing better to do right at this moment now back to work laughing do not archive ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message kolb-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/Kolb-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/kolb-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/kolb-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.