Kolb-List Digest Archive

Wed 10/31/07


Total Messages Posted: 28



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     1. 02:30 AM - Re: Great place for Kolbs...odd request. (Tony Oldman)
     2. 06:02 AM - Re: Great place for Kolbs...odd request. (Jeremy Casey)
     3. 07:07 AM - Re: Great place for Kolbs...odd request. (Richard Girard)
     4. 09:01 AM - Re: Ivo Props  (Kirby Dennis Contr MDA/AL)
     5. 12:13 PM - Cuyuna UL II-02 wiring diagram (jb92563)
     6. 12:34 PM - Re: Great place for Kolbs...odd request. (jb92563)
     7. 12:42 PM - Re: Last Flight of the Year (jb92563)
     8. 12:57 PM - :: Flight Testing :: (faisalasif)
     9. 01:11 PM - Re: :: Flight Testing :: (jb92563)
    10. 01:21 PM - Re: :: Flight Testing :: (faisalasif)
    11. 01:21 PM - Re: Great place for Kolbs...odd request. (planecrazzzy)
    12. 01:41 PM - Re: Insurance details  (pat ladd)
    13. 01:42 PM - Re: :: Flight Testing :: (jb92563)
    14. 02:50 PM - Re: Re: Great place for Kolbs...odd request. (Russ Kinne)
    15. 02:52 PM - Re: :: Flight Testing :: (possums)
    16. 03:13 PM - Re: Re: Ivo Props  (Larry Cottrell)
    17. 03:54 PM - Re: Re: :: Flight Testing :: (Southern Reflections)
    18. 04:20 PM - Re: Re: Great place for Kolbs...odd request. (Southern Reflections)
    19. 04:32 PM - Re: Re: Great place for Kolbs...odd request. (Robert Laird)
    20. 05:55 PM - Re: Re: Great place for Kolbs...odd request. (Southern Reflections)
    21. 06:00 PM - Re: Great place for Kolbs...odd request. (Jack B. Hart)
    22. 06:02 PM - Back Need Help ! (BMWBikeCrz@aol.com)
    23. 06:17 PM - Re: Re: Great place for Kolbs...odd request. (Russ Kinne)
    24. 07:04 PM - Re: Back Need Help ! (Richard Girard)
    25. 07:30 PM - Re: Re: :: Flight Testing :: (Vincent Nicely)
    26. 07:58 PM - Re: Re: Ivo Props  (ElleryWeld@aol.com)
    27. 08:55 PM - Re: Re: Ivo Props  (knowvne@aol.com)
    28. 10:15 PM - Re: Great place for Kolbs...odd request. (Dave Bigelow)
 
 
 


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    Time: 02:30:24 AM PST US
    From: "Tony Oldman" <aoldman@xtra.co.nz>
    Subject: Re: Great place for Kolbs...odd request.
    Welcome to NewZealand. Sounds like you would like it here. Only places that they get a bit touchy is flying into international airports. For some reason they like you to announce your intended arrival time and carry a radio ? Our aircraft all have ZK numbers a bit like your N numbers but the license has not gone to the sports aviation license as yours has .Some day those that dislike our little planes will come to understand that the only enemy is gravity.Fly where you will and enjoy, their problems and hang ups are not yours to ponder over. >From a fellow Kolb MK111 flyer from down under { yet ]----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike Welch" <mdnanwelch7@hotmail.com> Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2007 3:11 PM Subject: Kolb-List: Great place for Kolbs...odd request. > > > Fellow Kolbers, > > At the huge risk of getting all kinds of crap, I'd like to ask this > question; What state is just plain wonderful to live in, and fly your > Kolb all around? And is also very "affordable". > > A little background.......as some of you may remember, I recently moved > to my present location, (going on a year now). St. George is in the > southwest corner of Utah. The closest big city is Las Vegas. Weather is > beyond awesome, hills look exactly like Monument Valley, etc., etc. The > problem is the local airport just plain stinks!! > They are NOT experimental friendly. The Airport Security chief is an > a..hole, and frankly, I just don't like it. > They cater to propjets, bizjets, and mostly just factory iron. Had I > known how rotten the airport is, I wouldn't moved here in the first place. > > I miss the little airstrips like Northern Idaho had. (I used to live > there a few years ago.) Every small town had a little asphalt strip, and > there were lots of small towns. Casual. Beautiful scenery. Lousy cold > weather, though!! No more cold long winters. > > Since I am planning on retiring as soon as possible (maybe 3-4 years), I > want to start looking for a great place to settle to. I like a rural > lifestyle with a reasonably big city not too far away. Mild winters, with > just a touch of snow, low humidity, and lots of lakes and rivers. > > I don't know much about Missouri, but it looks like what I'm after. > Lots of green stuff, rolling hills, rivers, etc. > I'm really thinking of buying 10-15 acres and having my own runway, if > allowed. (I'm a former general contractor.) > > But, do any of you Kolb guys know anything about the airports and such (In > or near Missouri)? I like being involved in the local EAA chapters. I > think I've pretty much settled on Missouri, but I wonder about the > Alabama, Georgia, & Arkansas region. The weather is not too bad, I just > don't know specifically where to look. > > I really do value your opinions. Please be an advocate for why you like > where you are, if you do. I look forward to someday flying my Kolb MkIII > to lots and lots of little airstrips, in a state that this provides. > > Thanks, Mike Welch > > PS. Please, no northern states, guys. Yes, I know, they're beautiful. > But too cold. Been there, done that. > PSS. I'm headed to Evergreen, Alabama this Friday. My youngest son, on > leave from Afghanistan, is getting married Saturday. I get to look at > Alabama on Sunday. Yay! (My distant relatives are from N. Alabama) > _________________________________________________________________ > Help yourself to FREE treats served up daily at the Messenger Caf. Stop > by today. > http://www.cafemessenger.com/info/info_sweetstuff2.html?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_OctWLtagline > > > -- > 29/10/2007 9:28 a.m. > >


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    Time: 06:02:40 AM PST US
    From: "Jeremy Casey" <1planeguy@kilocharlie.us>
    Subject: Great place for Kolbs...odd request.
    low humidity, <snip> Mike, That little note rules out Al, GA., MS, LA, and FL. We say it isn't TOO humid till you have to cut the air with a knife to walk through it...man I hate the humidity...it makes a balmy 103 degree July seem like 115...(really...not kidding...) Jeremy


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    Time: 07:07:23 AM PST US
    From: "Richard Girard" <jindoguy@gmail.com>
    Subject: Re: Great place for Kolbs...odd request.
    Mike, I voted with my feet and moved from the Seattle area to SE Kansas. Lots of emergency landing fields, fairly low cost of living, and a decent climate. If you want scenery, wellllll....... Rick On 10/31/07, Jeremy Casey <1planeguy@kilocharlie.us> wrote: > > > low humidity, > > <snip> > > Mike, > > That little note rules out Al, GA., MS, LA, and FL. We say it isn't TOO > humid till you have to cut the air with a knife to walk through it...man > I hate the humidity...it makes a balmy 103 degree July seem like > 115...(really...not kidding...) > > Jeremy > >


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    Time: 09:01:09 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Ivo Props
    From: "Kirby Dennis Contr MDA/AL" <Dennis.Kirby@kirtland.af.mil>
    ElleryWeld wrote: << the 1st mistake was the pilot was to blame when he didn't tighten or check the oil cap on preflight >> Agree. I like to think I will perform better preflights in the future. << 2nd the pilots poor judgment with an emergency landing is what caused the plane to flip no matter what Prop he had the results would have been the same >> Aw, geez, Ellery - now my feelings are hurt, Amigo! ;-) In retrospect, here's how I summarized the outcome of my "mud flats landing" event last July: Every emergency is different, and you almost never know what the outcome might be, due to all the possible variables. For my case, when the oil cap went thru the prop, I was getting a vibration from the engine due to the damaged prop blade. My choices were: 1) try to fly 20 miles back to my home airport (nearest airport), or 2) do an off-airport precautionary landing as soon as practicable. I was over some dry lake beds at the time, so I chose to land on it. Turns out it was muddy below the dry surface crust, so my wheels bogged down and my Mark-III went on its back. The alternative would have been to land on the grassy tundra-like terrain surrounding the lake beds. But on closer inspection, that choice would have been far more disastrous! What looked like grassy meadow from 1000' agl was in fact very rough clump grass. I would have ended up with MUCH worse damage to my plane - bent gear legs, bent frame, etc. There were no nearby roads to land on, either. I'm glad I chose the lake bed to land on. Damage was minimal. Could I have made it back to the airport? Maybe. Maybe not. I did not want to deal with the possibility of that prop blade failing half way home, and the potentially disastrous result of that! So the lesson here is, we have to make the best judgment we can based on the circumstances apparent to us when faced with an emergency. Your outcome may vary from the other guy's. Meanwhile, I am beginning to look more favorably at these ultra-robust Warp Drive props ... Dennis Kirby Feelings not really hurt, in Cedar Crest, NM Do not archive


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    Time: 12:13:37 PM PST US
    Subject: Cuyuna UL II-02 wiring diagram
    From: "jb92563" <jb92563@yahoo.com>
    Does anyone have any info on the Cuyuna UL II-02 ignition wires? Since I put the engine back on the plane I forgot which wire goes to the Ignition kill switch, and the rpm. Also seems like there are more connectors than I am using and wonder what the others are for? I also bought a Stratomaster E1 digital 3 1/2" instrument that will display my EGT's, CHT's, Engine Time, Flight timer and RPM (does water temp and Oil Presure to if you have them) all in a single nice compact package. I plan on powering it by a separate 9.6 volt 1400 mah NiMH battery from the hobby shop. Weighs about a pound and will help keep me Part 103 Ultralight, as opposed to a typical heavier 12v battery. It will provide 24+ hrs of use before I need to recharge the battery, so I'll just bring it along with my handheld radio for charging before flying. -------- Ray Riverside County, CA Do Not Archive Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=142972#142972


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    Time: 12:34:44 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Great place for Kolbs...odd request.
    From: "jb92563" <jb92563@yahoo.com>
    How about California? 340+ flyable days a year, Choose your temperature by your elevation, and location Dryer warmer south and moister/colder north. Pick your scenery, Yosemite Park, Mojave Deserts, Big Redwoods, Salt Lakes, Mountains, Pacific Ocean what ever tickles your fancy or just see it all in a day or two flying adventure any time of the year. Plenty of wide open spaces and places to live. I was just looking at an airpark community at Lake Riverside, in Riverside county, California. About $80,000 for a lot with airport rights etc. Like they say in California, if you don't like the weather where you are drive for 1/2 hour and the weather could be entirely different. You can land where ever you want, just have the right equipment for the airspace and do your normal pilot communication stuff. Many private fields don't even use radio. I've been to some of the places you mentioned and frankly wonder how many pilots land in trees every year.....some places seem to have no landable fields with range. I suppose in reality its not as bad as it looks and theres always roads to land on, but first impression seems densely forrested. -------- Ray Riverside County, CA Do Not Archive Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=142974#142974


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    Time: 12:42:40 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Last Flight of the Year
    From: "jb92563" <jb92563@yahoo.com>
    I used to be sad on the last flight of the season to.....but then I moved to southern California. Now I don't get that sad feeling anymore. [Wink] Today its 78 degrees and on my walk I saw a couple ultralights buzzing around at 500' just enjoying the still air. Power motivation to get my Ultrastar done ASAP. The air is still in my area during the winter most days until about noon Perfect for enjoying some casual flying around the country side going nowhere in particular. -------- Ray Riverside County, CA Do Not Archive Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=142978#142978


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    Time: 12:57:07 PM PST US
    Subject: :: Flight Testing ::
    From: "faisalasif" <faisal@pakcyber.com>
    Hello everyone, I hope you all are doing fine. Now I was wondering if there is a Flight Testing Standard available that addresses all safety issues. (and its free) If not, I am planning to take up this issue and create a proper Flight testing Plan that addresses all safety issues for any single engine / prop based aircraft. This should be free for all to use and refer too. Anyone interested in directing me towards a better resource. or assisting me my attempt. awaiting your valuable comments, faisal. faisal (at) scaled.com.pk Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=142980#142980


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    Time: 01:11:53 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: :: Flight Testing ::
    From: "jb92563" <jb92563@yahoo.com>
    The EAA website has good information on Flight Testing Experimental Aircraft. I think this would be a good source of information for you. www.eaa.org http://www.eaa.org/home/homebuilders/testing/articles/articles.html -------- Ray Riverside County, CA Do Not Archive Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=142985#142985


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    Time: 01:21:13 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: :: Flight Testing ::
    From: "faisalasif" <faisal@pakcyber.com>
    They area list of articles not a complete Flight Test Plan. I have not seen any plan on EAA that carries Flight Testing Checklists or Flight Testing Cards (As advised for testing by FAA). normally only a general description is given not the complete procedure to follow. They normally don't even tend to provide you with possible adverse effects of attempting a maneuver. I intend to make a Complete. Step by step list that addresses each test, its need, its procedure, its pits and falls, requirements for attempting the maneuver, recording of the result, analyzing it to define limitations. Comments? faisal (at) scaled.com.pk do not archive Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=142987#142987


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    Time: 01:21:13 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Great place for Kolbs...odd request.
    From: "planecrazzzy" <planecrazzzy@yahoo.com>
    I'm originally from Calif ( Bay Area ) Mediterranean Climate.... But it's gotten pretty crowded there.... Myself , I'd lean towards Oregon....Probably around Eugene.... My .02 cents.... . . Mike & "Jaz" in MN Minne - sota Land really sucks , Winters too long & too cold Summers are too hot & too humid... -------- . . . . . Do Not Archive Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=142986#142986


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    Time: 01:41:36 PM PST US
    From: "pat ladd" <pj.ladd@btinternet.com>
    Subject: Re: Insurance details
    Since I'm doing the work myself, after I complete the repairs, I'll certify in my logbook that the plane is again airworthy (a privilege I enjoy with the Repairman's Certificate for this plane, as the builder). Then, I'll pick up the renewal of my insurance where I left off. Easy. >> Hi Kirby, lookes as though the system worked well for you. Here the amount of work you can do is unlimited but any `incident` should be reported and if it is repair large enough to make it worth while making an insurance claim the repair would probably be signed off by a PFA Inspector. There uis a range of stuff which you can do to your engine and this is due to be increased and something like your `repairman` exam is on the cards in the near future. I know my building/ mechanic capabiliities and I am delighted to pay an expert. If I put up a shelf things roll off the end. Some of the regs are just nonsense. When my brother and I built the Challenger ( he was a good mechanic) there was a spot weld required in the brake assembly . The only weld in the entire plane. I went to a local aircraft producer to get it done through the back door by some guy in his lunch hour. So far so good. When I said I needed a certificate, requiresd by the PFA, then everything moved up a notch.. A qualified, and `approved` welder had to be employed . In the end the guy who was going to do it in his lunch break did the job anyway but it had to go through the `proper` channels, and at `proper` costs to get the certicate. Things seem to be easing slightly in Europe what with the increae in the weight that defines a microlight and the Single Seat Deregulation etc but we are never going to get your system. On the other hand some things are getting worse. Mandatory transponders will be introduced in the near future. Another weight and cost penalty we shall have to bear. Cheers Pat Pat


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    Time: 01:42:37 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: :: Flight Testing ::
    From: "jb92563" <jb92563@yahoo.com>
    FAA AC 90-89a - Amatuer-Built Aircraft & Ultralight Flight Testing Handbook has a lot more step by step information as well, also on the EAA website. Since that has been adequate for Home builders, if you need more, you will probably have to use one of the large aerospace agencies criteria for flight testing. Not likely that they will make any of that available to a non-staff member. -------- Ray Riverside County, CA Do Not Archive Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=142994#142994


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    Time: 02:50:26 PM PST US
    From: Russ Kinne <russ@rkiphoto.com>
    Subject: Re: Great place for Kolbs...odd request.
    Best place to fly, IMHO, would not be in New England. Lots trees, in the south too many bloody big houses, city gov's that rule against such things, etc etc. Northern is much better but cold in the winter, clouds, fog, and still all those trees! I like New England, don't get me wrong; but the short-sightedness of the people drives me nuts. Stick-in-the-mud thinking, that is. I plan to move, but what I want is (note: "want", not expect to find) A place where flying is welcomed grass strip closeby snow mountain for skiing coral reef for skindiving salt water for sailing maybe 50' pistol range in the backyard; I have that now Understandably, I'm still looking. may have to revamp my parameters!! I find it interesting to read all the responses. good luck to us all, Russ in CT do not archive


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    Time: 02:52:50 PM PST US
    From: possums <possums@bellsouth.net>
    Subject: Re: :: Flight Testing ::
    At 03:56 PM 10/31/2007, you wrote: > >Hello everyone, > >I hope you all are doing fine. > >Now I was wondering if there is a Flight Testing Standard available >that addresses all safety issues. (and its free) > >If not, I am planning to take up this issue and create a proper >Flight testing Plan that addresses all safety issues for any single >engine / prop based aircraft. This should be free for all to use and refer too. > >Anyone interested in directing me towards a better resource. or >assisting me my attempt. Here's one for free: http://www.faa.gov/library/manuals/aircraft/media/ac90-89a.pdf


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    Time: 03:13:18 PM PST US
    From: "Larry Cottrell" <lcottrell@fmtcblue.com>
    Subject: Re: Ivo Props
    ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kirby Dennis Contr MDA/AL" <Dennis.Kirby@kirtland.af.mil> Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2007 9:00 AM Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Ivo Props > <Dennis.Kirby@kirtland.af.mil> > > > ElleryWeld wrote: << the 1st mistake was the pilot was to blame when he > didn't tighten or check the oil cap on preflight >> > > Agree. I like to think I will perform better preflights in the future. > > << 2nd the pilots poor judgment with an emergency landing is what caused > the plane to flip no matter what Prop he had the results would have been > the same >> I am going to have to go to Dennis's defense here. On our trip back from MV this year I was flying over the Bonneville Salt flats going to Wendover. I had no problems, just wanted to land on the salt just to say I did. I had been looking at it for quite some time and I found a spot that looked really good. Well, I decided to do a test high speed touch down to see if it was soft. Good thing too, when my speed got down to about 40 I could feel the wheels sinking lower and lower in the salt. I gave it full up and full throttle and just barely managed to pull it out of the salt. Keeping in mind that I did not have any innocent young passenger to worry about if the blade came apart, and I really didn't feel that I had to land anywhere. Given other factors such as those mentioned above I am pretty sure that I would have been stuck in the muck as well. I notice all the time here in the desert that tings on the ground are a lot rougher than from the air. Larry C


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    Time: 03:54:43 PM PST US
    From: "Southern Reflections" <purplemoon99@bellsouth.net>
    Subject: Re: :: Flight Testing ::
    Are you testing a airplane or a rocket ship ? Joe N101HD DO not art. ----- Original Message ----- From: "faisalasif" <faisal@pakcyber.com> Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2007 4:20 PM Subject: Kolb-List: Re: :: Flight Testing :: > > They area list of articles not a complete Flight Test Plan. > I have not seen any plan on EAA that carries Flight Testing Checklists or > Flight Testing Cards (As advised for testing by FAA). > > normally only a general description is given not the complete procedure to > follow. > > They normally don't even tend to provide you with possible adverse effects > of attempting a maneuver. > > I intend to make a Complete. Step by step list that addresses each test, > its need, its procedure, its pits and falls, requirements for attempting > the maneuver, recording of the result, analyzing it to define limitations. > > Comments? > > faisal (at) scaled.com.pk > > do not archive > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=142987#142987 > > >


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    Time: 04:20:45 PM PST US
    From: "Southern Reflections" <purplemoon99@bellsouth.net>
    Subject: Re: Great place for Kolbs...odd request.
    I would say You are looking for a high,dry warm,cool, clear, climate,where every body is nice, the days are long and the air is sweet It's called Disneyworld...or, even better , maybe If , and I stress the "IF', you could get Alice to to step out of WonderLand, you could step IN.I don't think she(Alice) would go for the 50' pistol range, but maybe with the right approach she would let you have 1-1/2 rifle rangeand buy you a new Barrett-50 to test out Wouldn't that be better than a old 50' pistol range?? Joe N101HD DO not art. ----- Original Message ----- From: Russ Kinne To: kolb-list@matronics.com Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2007 5:48 PM Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Great place for Kolbs...odd request. Best place to fly, IMHO, would not be in New England. Lots trees, in the south too many bloody big houses, city gov's that rule against such things, etc etc. Northern is much better but cold in the winter, clouds, fog, and still all those trees! I like New England, don't get me wrong; but the short-sightedness of the people drives me nuts. Stick-in-the-mud thinking, that is. I plan to move, but what I want is (note: "want", not expect to find) A place where flying is welcomed grass strip closeby snow mountain for skiing coral reef for skindiving salt water for sailing maybe 50' pistol range in the backyard; I have that now Understandably, I'm still looking. may have to revamp my parameters!! I find it interesting to read all the responses. good luck to us all, Russ in CT do not archive


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    Time: 04:32:58 PM PST US
    From: "Robert Laird" <rlaird@cavediver.com>
    Subject: Re: Great place for Kolbs...odd request.
    On 10/31/07, Southern Reflections <purplemoon99@bellsouth.net> wrote: > > I would say You are looking for a high,dry warm,cool, clear, > climate,where every body is nice, the days are long and the air is sweet > You forgot: calm winds, low density altitude, no thermals, higher percentage of O2 in the air, and alto-cirrus blocking the sun in the early morning and late afternoons. -- R


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    Time: 05:55:31 PM PST US
    From: "Southern Reflections" <purplemoon99@bellsouth.net>
    Subject: Re: Great place for Kolbs...odd request.
    R,between the two of us we may set this lad in the proper direction to relocate.....Joe N101HD do not art. ----- Original Message ----- From: Robert Laird To: kolb-list@matronics.com Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2007 7:32 PM Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Great place for Kolbs...odd request. On 10/31/07, Southern Reflections <purplemoon99@bellsouth.net> wrote: I would say You are looking for a high,dry warm,cool, clear, climate,where every body is nice, the days are long and the air is sweet You forgot: calm winds, low density altitude, no thermals, higher percentage of O2 in the air, and alto-cirrus blocking the sun in the early morning and late afternoons. -- R


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    Time: 06:00:32 PM PST US
    From: "Jack B. Hart" <jbhart@onlyinternet.net>
    Subject: Re: Great place for Kolbs...odd request.
    At 07:11 PM 10/30/07 -0700, you wrote: d> Since I am planning on retiring as soon as possible (maybe 3-4 years), I want to start looking for a great place to settle to. I like a rural lifestyle with a reasonably big city not too far away. Mild winters, with just a touch of snow, low humidity, and lots of lakes and rivers. > > I don't know much about Missouri, but it looks like what I'm after. Lots of green stuff, rolling hills, rivers, etc. >I'm really thinking of buying 10-15 acres and having my own runway, if allowed. (I'm a former general contractor.) > >But, do any of you Kolb guys know anything about the airports and such (In or near Missouri)? I like being involved in the local EAA chapters. I think I've pretty much settled on Missouri, but I wonder about the Alabama, Georgia, & Arkansas region. The weather is not too bad, I just don't know specifically where to look. > Mike, I lived in south eastern Missouri for about ten years. I hangared at Perryville (K02). I lived close to Jackson. K02 is located in the Mississippi River bottom. There is a multitude of airports close by in Missouri and Illinois. I belonged the EAA Chapter 453, located at Painton, MO. It was a very active chapter, and it met at 2 PM on the third Sunday of the month. The chapter club house is located at a grass strip next to Painton, so it was possible to fly to the meetings. All kinds of terrain within a fifty mile radius. Cost of living is reasonable, with mild winters. Lots of sunshine all year around. The only weather down side is an occasional tornado. So, why am I retired and living in eastern Indiana? A grand daughter. Jack B. Hart FF004 Winchester, IN do not archive


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    Time: 06:02:32 PM PST US
    From: BMWBikeCrz@aol.com
    Subject: Back Need Help !
    Have been off list for a while ... First what are the chances if getting busted if I don't register my firestar in time ? Private strip ... but lots of GA guys that don't care for ultralights ... Next ... anyone near Lake City Florida that can help me get a few repairs made ? The plane is up there and I am here near Tampa ... Also I need to speak with people in the Tampa bay area that can advise me on the correct procedures for registration Thanks ! Dave **************************************


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    Time: 06:17:34 PM PST US
    From: Russ Kinne <russ@rkiphoto.com>
    Subject: Re: Great place for Kolbs...odd request.
    Joe (& others?) Of course I'm looking for Disneyland, or someplace that doesn't exist -- but I can dream The Barrett-50 wouldn't do too good on my range, and tho I've got the neighbors used to .22, .38 and 9mm I don't think they'd like the .50 Not my type of gun anyway. Now the Taurus 'Judge' -- don't arch 50 much. On Oct 31, 2007, at 7:19 PM, Southern Reflections wrote: > I would say You are looking for a high,dry warm,cool, clear, > climate,where every body is nice, the days are long and the air is > sweet It's called Disneyworld...or, even better , maybe If , and I > stress the "IF', you could get Alice to to step out of WonderLand, > you could step IN.I don't think she(Alice) would go for the 50' > pistol range, but maybe with the right approach she would let you > have 1-1/2 rifle rangeand buy you a new Barrett-50 to test out > Wouldn't that be better than a old 50' pistol range?? Joe > N101HD > > DO not art. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Russ Kinne > To: kolb-list@matronics.com > Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2007 5:48 PM > Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Great place for Kolbs...odd request. > > Best place to fly, IMHO, would not be in New England. Lots trees, > in the south too many bloody big houses, city gov's that rule > against such things, etc etc. Northern is much better but cold in > the winter, clouds, fog, and still all those trees! > I like New England, don't get me wrong; but the short-sightedness > of the people drives me nuts. Stick-in-the-mud thinking, that is. > I plan to move, but what I want is (note: "want", not expect to find) > > A place where flying is welcomed > grass strip closeby > snow mountain for skiing > coral reef for skindiving > salt water for sailing > maybe 50' pistol range in the backyard; I have that now > > Understandably, I'm still looking. may have to revamp my parameters!! > I find it interesting to read all the responses. > good luck to us all, > Russ in CT > do not archive > > > href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kolb-List">http:// > www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kolb-Listhref="http:// > forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com > http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kolb-List_- > ============================================================ _- > forums.matronics.com_- > =========================================================== >


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    Time: 07:04:38 PM PST US
    From: "Richard Girard" <jindoguy@gmail.com>
    Subject: Re: Back Need Help !
    Dave, Contact Mike Z at Mike Z Sport Aviation. He lives in Lakeland and his office is at Plant City Airport. My advice is don't take any chances. Go to FAA.gov and order an N number tonight. I'm serious do it now, there's a five week backlog to get your registration through and you can't start the airworthiness procedure until you get the hard card back. Print out form 8050-88a and get an 8050-1 registration form (it's a three parter and you can't download it) from the Tampa or Lakeland FSDO. Fill out the forms, don't sign the -88a until in the presence of the notary (been there, did that) and send all off to OK City tomorrow. Mike can put you in touch with Jay (DAR) at South Lakeland (X49) for the inspection. Hope this helps. Rick On 10/31/07, BMWBikeCrz@aol.com <BMWBikeCrz@aol.com> wrote: > > *Have been off list for a while ... > > First what are the chances if getting busted if I don't register my > firestar in time ? Private strip ... but lots of GA guys that don't care for > ultralights ... > > Next ... anyone near Lake City Florida that can help me get a few repairs > made ? The plane is up there and I am here near Tampa ... > > > Also I need to speak with people in the Tampa bay area that can advise me > on the correct procedures for registration > > Thanks ! Dave* > > > ************************************** > See what's new at > > * > > > * > >


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    Time: 07:30:28 PM PST US
    From: Vincent Nicely <vincenic1@embarqmail.com>
    Subject: Re: :: Flight Testing ::
    faisal, A book that I have liked that addresses what to test, what to expect and what to do to fix it is: <http://www.amazon.com/Flight-Testing-Homebuilt-Aircraft-Vaughan/dp/1560276282/ref=sr_1_1/002-8840113-1392856?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1193883942&sr=1-1> Flight Testing Homebuilt Aircraft <http://www.amazon.com/Flight-Testing-Homebuilt-Aircraft-Vaughan/dp/1560276282/ref=sr_1_1/002-8840113-1392856?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1193883942&sr=1-1> by Vaughan Askue (Paperback - Jul 1, 1992) Amazon has the book and you can see more detail at: http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_ss_gw/105-4398161-6985248?url=search-alias%3Dstripbooks&field-keywords=askue+homebuilt+aircraft&x=0&y=0 Vince Nicely Firestar II faisalasif wrote: > >They area list of articles not a complete Flight Test Plan. >I have not seen any plan on EAA that carries Flight Testing Checklists or Flight Testing Cards (As advised for testing by FAA). > >normally only a general description is given not the complete procedure to follow. > >They normally don't even tend to provide you with possible adverse effects of attempting a maneuver. > >I intend to make a Complete. Step by step list that addresses each test, its need, its procedure, its pits and falls, requirements for attempting the maneuver, recording of the result, analyzing it to define limitations. > >Comments? > >faisal (at) scaled.com.pk > >do not archive > > >Read this topic online here: > >http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=142987#142987 > > > >


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    Time: 07:58:47 PM PST US
    From: ElleryWeld@aol.com
    Subject: Re: Ivo Props
    Dennis I wasn't meaning to cause any ill feelings and I think you have taken it that way. I usually leave my self an emergency landing exit on cross country flights and on short around the neiborhood flights there are plenty of places to put down in case that Fan behind me stops making wind for any unsuspected reason I-95 is the whole length of our state just a real long strip and I wouldnt hesitate to put down there in any pinch because when you get away from it theres going to be a real hard long walk if you can survive the landing Ellery in Maine do not archive


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    Time: 08:55:36 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Ivo Props
    From: knowvne@aol.com
    Ellery just make sure you toss a buck in the toll both basket 8-) -----Original Message----- From: ElleryWeld@aol.com Sent: Wed, 31 Oct 2007 10:57 pm Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Ivo Props Dennis I wasn't meaning to cause any ill feelings and I think you have taken it that way. I usually leave my self an emergency landing exit on cross country flights and on short around the neiborhood flights there are plenty of places to put down in case that Fan behind me stops making wind for any unsuspected reason I-95 is the whole length of our state just a real long strip and I wouldnt hesitate to put down there in any pinch because when you get away from it theres going to be a real hard long walk if you can survive the landing Ellery in Maine do not archive ________________________________________________________________________ Email and AIM finally together. You've gotta check out free AOL Mail! - http://mail.aol.com


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    Time: 10:15:15 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Great place for Kolbs...odd request.
    From: "Dave Bigelow" <up_country@hotmail.com>
    The climate you are looking for exists at elevations above 2500 feet on the western side of the Island of Hawaii. However, the rest......? -------- Dave Bigelow Kamuela, Hawaii FS2, HKS 700E Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=143084#143084




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