Today's Message Index:
----------------------
1. 03:12 AM - Re: Muffler Paint, what kind to use? (ElleryWeld@aol.com)
2. 07:18 AM - Re: 582 oil pump (herbgh@juno.com)
3. 05:20 PM - Re: Aluminum panel - continued - how to finish it off? (planecrazzzy)
4. 09:10 PM - Mutual respect (Tom Deiulio)
5. 09:12 PM - Re: Re: Aluminum panel - continued - how to finish it off? (Dana Hague)
6. 09:41 PM - Re: Muffler Paint, what kind to use? (Dana Hague)
7. 09:48 PM - Where'd they go?? (Mike Welch)
8. 10:13 PM - Re: 582 oil pump (Eugene Zimmerman)
9. 10:30 PM - Re: Xtra Information (Russ Kinne)
10. 10:34 PM - Blocking my emails (Mike Welch)
11. 10:37 PM - test (Mike Welch)
12. 10:41 PM - Re: Muffler Paint, what kind to use? (Russ Kinne)
13. 10:47 PM - Re: Re: Cracking in tubing and welds? (John Hauck)
14. 10:51 PM - Re: Muffler Paint, what kind to use? (Bart Morgan)
15. 10:53 PM - 582 oil pump (Richard Pike)
16. 11:19 PM - Re: Muffler Paint, what kind to use? AND panel surface finish (Mike Welch)
17. 11:19 PM - Re: Re: Flight safety question - chutes (Russ Kinne)
18. 11:23 PM - Beautiful exhaust & awesome looking panels (Mike Welch)
19. 11:38 PM - Dodged a small bullet, learned a lesson! (Lanny Fetterman)
20. 11:42 PM - Re: Xtra Information (Vic Peters)
21. 11:52 PM - Re: Muffler Paint, what kind to use? (gary aman)
Message 1
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
| Subject: | Re: Muffler Paint, what kind to use? |
I dont think your engine would stand 1400 degrees but You can get your
exhaust powder coated and the silver does last the best on an exhaust system
Ellery in Maine Building MK3Xtra
do not archive
Message 2
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
| Subject: | Re: 582 oil pump |
Richard
Ronnie down in Lucedale sent me one for little money..brand new..Herb
On Fri, 9 Nov 2007 19:27:27 -0500 "Richard Pike" <richard@bcchapel.org>
writes:
> <richard@bcchapel.org>
>
> Anybody got an oil injection pump for a 582 sitting on a shelf,
> collecting
> dust? I need one. Yesterday.
>
> Richard Pike
> MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
Message 3
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
| Subject: | Re: Aluminum panel - continued - how to finish it off? |
There's always "engine turning"....??!!
.
.
.
Gotta Fly...
.
.
.
.
--------
.
.
.
.
.
Do Not Archive
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=144909#144909
Attachments:
http://forums.matronics.com//files/fish_scaling_floor_pans_013_161.jpg
http://forums.matronics.com//files/fish_scaling_floor_pans_009_690.jpg
http://forums.matronics.com//files/fish_scaling_floor_pans_012_483.jpg
Message 4
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
Will those that insist on downgrading and insulting others please remove
themselves from this list and leave us to our recreation and peace. I've
always considered aviators individuals with above average intelligence
and maturity.
do not archive
Message 5
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
| Subject: | Re: Aluminum panel - continued - how to finish it off? |
At 08:19 PM 11/10/2007, planecrazzzy wrote:
>There's always "engine turning"....??!!
That'd sure be pretty... until you get into that precise position with the
sun behind you...
-Dana
--
--
A truly wise man never plays leapfrog with a unicorn.
Message 6
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
| Subject: | Re: Muffler Paint, what kind to use? |
At 03:16 PM 11/9/2007, jb92563 wrote:
>
>What sort of paint can I use that will stand up to 2 cycle temps?
>
>I have heard of a heat proof silver paint, but I have no idea how it
>stands up to 1400 degrees F.
I used high temperature (rated 1200 IIRC) black spray paint on the exhaust
on my PPG. The first 6" or so from the cylinder burned off, but the rest
is holding up fine.
-Dana
--
--
A truly wise man never plays leapfrog with a unicorn.
Message 7
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
| Subject: | Where'd they go?? |
Earlier this afternoon I replied to Ray's request about exhaust coatings. Minutes
later I initiated a new thread finally replying to whoever it was that wanted
a suggestion for finishing their panel.
Neither of them has shown up about 7 hours after I sent them. And yet I see others
show up. What gives??
Mike Welch
_________________________________________________________________
Climb to the top of the charts! Play Star Shuffle: the word scramble challenge
with star power.
http://club.live.com/star_shuffle.aspx?icid=starshuffle_wlmailtextlink_oct
Message 8
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
| Subject: | Re: 582 oil pump |
What!
Another oil pump? What happened?
Gene,
On Nov 9, 2007, at 7:27 PM, Richard Pike wrote:
>
> Anybody got an oil injection pump for a 582 sitting on a shelf,
> collecting dust? I need one. Yesterday.
>
> Richard Pike
> MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
>
>
Message 9
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
| Subject: | Re: Xtra Information |
I like your thinking! -- bottles are seldom big enuf -- what part of
Maine are you in?
Russ
On Nov 9, 2007, at 9:43 AM, Vic Peters wrote:
> Well Ellery is partially right I've been losing my mind gradually
> for years.
> But as for tipping the bottle, mine is so big it tips me.
>
> Vic
> do not archive
> ============================================================ _-
> www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kolb-List_-
> ============================================================ _-
> forums.matronics.com_-
> ===========================================================
>
Message 10
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
| Subject: | Blocking my emails |
Matt.
Are you blocking my emails to the Kolb list?? Mike Welch
DNA
_________________________________________________________________
Message 11
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
This is a test message. I have not been able to post or receive any emails from
this list.
Mike Welch
Do not archive
_________________________________________________________________
Message 12
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
| Subject: | Re: Muffler Paint, what kind to use? |
Check NAPA or any hot-rod store. But maybe only black or silver.
On Nov 9, 2007, at 3:16 PM, jb92563 wrote:
>
> I have a Cuyuna ul II-02 2 cycle engine muffler that I would like
> to paint since it looks ugly in its natural "Rust" color(No Coating
> at all).
>
> What sort of paint can I use that will stand up to 2 cycle temps?
>
> I have heard of a heat proof silver paint, but I have no idea how
> it stands up to 1400 degrees F.
>
> Suggestions, comments, ideas?
>
> --------
> Ray
> Riverside County, CA
>
> Do Not Archive
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=144827#144827
>
>
Message 13
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
| Subject: | Re: Cracking in tubing and welds? |
had a cracked wing rib that failed at a rivet hole on the leading edge
of the wing.
|
|
| No need to be overly concerned, just perform good preflights and
check some of those high stress areas regularly and make sure the
corrosion protection is replaced in those rare areas that start to
rust.
|
| --------
| Ray
Ray:
I believe cracks are more an issue of both aluminum and 4130 parts,
especially fuselage welds. The nature of a two stroke engine
encourages stress cracks through high frequency vibration.
Personally, I would be more concerned with internal 4130 tube
corrosion than external. External corrosion I can see and fix.
Internal I have no control over unless I use tube seal to prevent.
john h
mkIII
Nellis AFB, Nevada
Big air show here tomorrow and Sunday. Happened to arrived here this
morning and was surprised by the old War Birds that were flying in
Nellis traffic.
Message 14
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
| Subject: | Re: Muffler Paint, what kind to use? |
Ray,
Try www.por15.com, click on high temp paint.
Bart Morgan
jb92563 <jb92563@yahoo.com> wrote:
I have a Cuyuna ul II-02 2 cycle engine muffler that I would like to paint since
it looks ugly in its natural "Rust" color(No Coating at all).
What sort of paint can I use that will stand up to 2 cycle temps?
I have heard of a heat proof silver paint, but I have no idea how it stands up
to 1400 degrees F.
Suggestions, comments, ideas?
--------
Ray
Riverside County, CA
Do Not Archive
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=144827#144827
Message 15
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
If anybody has a 582 oil pump sitting on a shelf collecting dust, I need
one. Yesterday.
Richard Pike
MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
Message 16
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
| Subject: | Muffler Paint, what kind to use? AND panel surface finish |
Mr. Ray,
I would suggest "cermacoating" your exhaust parts. It gives them a "polished
aluminum look." From what I gather, it is essentially a metallic looking powder-coat
paint finish, except maybe more heat resistant.
I had an outfit named Performance Coatings do my GEO engine muffler/exhaust, and
also my GlaStar header-style custom exhaust system (pipes).
They charged me $60 complete, for the GEO exhaust muffler unit, and I believe
$100, or there-abouts, for the Lycoming exhaust headers. And you don't do
ANYTHING. They do it all....from cleaning the surface, coating, and then buffing
them shiny. I was VERY satisfied with the price and the quality.
Let me go see if I can find their phone number................back in a minute.
I'm back. Here is the outfit I dealt with, although I see there are a couple
of places named "Performance
Coatings."
http://www.headercoatings.com/
And while I'm at it, since I'm name-dropping here, someone asked about what to
coat their panel with. I saw a couple of suggestions like krinkle paint, or
laminate (plastic). Is anyone familiar with this process?? I saw them featured
on "SPORT PILOT" TV show. Unbelievably beautiful work, but as you can imagine...not
cheap.
If nothing else, maybe, just maybe, an ingenious soul can duplicate their process
on a small scale, for their own little flat panel surface. Anyway, it's just
a suggestion.
http://www.pfluegers.com/
BTW. It's nice when this forum isn't bothered by General Rancor. He is such a
distasteful cuss !! (No one particular in mind!!!)
Mike Welch in SW Utah, eternally working on
MkIII project nX
> I have heard of a heat proof silver paint, but I have no idea how it stands up
to 1400 degrees F.
>
> Suggestions, comments, ideas?
>
> --------
> Ray
> Riverside County, CA
>
> Do Not Archive
_________________________________________________________________
Message 17
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
| Subject: | Re: Flight safety question - chutes |
Brian
Have read your post in re BRS's.
FWIW If I can have a life-saving chute on my plane, I'll have one.
I've made a bunch of sport jumps & have no problems with a chute
saving my life, and my plane.
Obviously if you're over the Interstate (maybe!) or powerlines you
don't pull the red handle.
The 'accidental deployment' of chute that you mention was PILOT
ERROR, no more no less.
Don't cloud the issues with ridiculous comments, please. Kill
yourself if you wish.
On Nov 7, 2007, at 1:46 PM, Bryan Dever wrote:
>
> I don't have a strong opinion on having a BRS chute, that is why I
> haven't spent the money for one. If you are flying on a tight budget,
> I think that the money would be better spent on training, engine
> overhauls, and maintenance.
>
> As far as the 200 "saves" that BRS likes to talk about, I tend to be a
> little wary of that number. There are many true saves on that list,
> but there are a lot of deployments due to engine failure. I don't
> really think of those all as saves. I have to wonder if those pilots
> would have been better off if they had spent the extra money on
> training for dead stick landings, engine maintenance, and learning not
> to fly over hostile terrain. I also wonder what the failure rate is
> for BRS. They don't seem to publish that number. If it was a very
> low number, I would think that they would.
>
> There are also risks to having a BRS. Pull that handle and you may be
> saved, or you may come down in electrical lines or in front of a
> speeding semi. In many instances you are better off flying the plane
> to the scene of the crash. Obviously if the wing falls off of your
> plane this is another story. There is also a real risk to potential
> rescue workers and citizens that try and help you out of your crashed
> plane if you did not deploy it. We had a brand new Challenger at our
> airport many years ago. A pilot accidentally pulled the handle when
> exiting the plane after a flight. It was a windy day and the wind
> caught the chute and dragged the plane across a field and into a
> fence. It caused a lot of damage.
>
> All in all, the benefits of having a BRS surely outweigh not having
> one....just not by much in my book. When I am spiraling in from
> 1200', you can all say "I told you so."
>
> Bryan Dever
>
>
Message 18
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
| Subject: | Beautiful exhaust & awesome looking panels |
Kolb guys,
I recently responded to Ray's request regarding beautifying his exhaust. I also
commented on a nice panel finish in the same email.
For some inexplicable reason I must have been kicked off the Kolb list, because
my reply and a couple of new emails to this list have not ever been posted.
I don't know why not.
So that I don't have to completely retype my reply to Ray, here is the "copied
and pasted" message:
( I had to rejoin the Kolb list. Does that make me a new person? )
Mr. Ray,
I would suggest "cermacoating" your exhaust parts. It gives them a "polished aluminum
look." From what I gather, it is essentially a metallic looking powder-coat
paint finish, except maybe more heat resistant.I had an outfit named Performance
Coatings do my GEO engine muffler/exhaust, and also my GlaStar header-style
custom exhaust system (pipes). They charged me $60 complete, for the GEO
exhaust muffler unit, and I believe $100, or there-abouts, for the Lycoming
exhaust headers. And you don't do ANYTHING. They do it all....from cleaning the
surface, coating, and then buffing them shiny. I was VERY satisfied with the
price and the quality. Let me go see if I can find their phone number................back
in a minute. I'm back. Here is the outfit I dealt with, although
I see there are a couple of places named "Performance Coatings."
http://www.headercoatings.com/
And while I'm at it, since I'm name-dropping here, someone asked about what to
coat their panel with. I saw a couple of suggestions like krinkle paint, or laminate
(plastic). Is anyone familiar with this process?? I saw them featured on
"SPORT PILOT" TV show. Unbelievably beautiful work, but as you can imagine...not
cheap.If nothing else, maybe, just maybe, an ingenious soul can duplicate
their process on a small scale, for their own little flat panel surface. Anyway,
it's just a suggestion.
http://www.pfluegers.com/
BTW. It's nice when this forum isn't bothered by General Rancor. (No one particular
in mind!!!)
Mike Welch in SW Utah, eternally working on MkIII project
nX
_________________________________________________________________
Help yourself to FREE treats served up daily at the Messenger Caf. Stop by today.
http://www.cafemessenger.com/info/info_sweetstuff2.html?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_OctWLtagline
Message 19
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
| Subject: | Dodged a small bullet, learned a lesson! |
Hi all, Just thought I would share a lesson I learned today. I was going
to fog my 503 for winter storage today. Since the FSII was on the trailer,
in the hanger and it was raining, I figured I would just take the carbs off
and fog the crankcase without starting the engine. Seemed like a good idea
at the time, but I digress.
Anyway, I put the little plastic straw thingie on the fogging can, stuck
the straw into the intake and pushed the button on the aerosol can. In the
blink of an eye the plastic straw blew off the can and went into the
crankcase, CRAP!! Who would have ever predicted that.
I could see the very top of the plastic straw standing straight up in the
crankcase. I wasn`t sure if it was sitting on the bottom of the case or if
it could fall further and disappear. Long story short, I used a four
fingered grabbing tool to pull it back to the intake side of the cylinder,
then grabbed it with a pair of needle nose pliers, and pulled it out. This
all took about half an hour from the beginning of the circus to the end. I
think I had some divine help as the straw was very slippery from the
fogging oil.
What I learned is, never use the straw to inject fogging oil into the
crankcase! All`s well that ends well. Lanny N598LF : )
Message 20
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
| Subject: | Re: Xtra Information |
Thanks for your concern everyone but Ellery is just yankin your chain.
Next time I see him he'll get a sharp blow to the head like that "I could
have had a V8" commercial.
I do partake of some libation occasionally, no more than usual, less than
most. Age limits a lot of things.
I've always been financially stressed and people that are always happy just
make me want what they are taking.
My thinking was that learning to fly from scratch at 59 in a Kolb that has
to be wheel landed at 60mph may not be the best idea since my 2D
coordination is marginal let alone 3D.
I'm thinking of building an experimental Taylorcraft. I figure once no one
can afford a Cub anymore they will become popular.
Vic
Maine
Xtra 912 do not archive
Message 21
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
| Subject: | Re: Muffler Paint, what kind to use? |
Ray,
The high temp header paint for race cars or at Ace hardware 1500 degree charcoal
grill paint.Works good for me for 7 years so far
G.Aman
I have a Cuyuna ul II-02 2 cycle engine muffler that I would like to paint since
it looks ugly in its natural "Rust" color(No Coating at all).
What sort of paint can I use that will stand up to 2 cycle temps?
I have heard of a heat proof silver paint, but I have no idea how it stands up
to 1400 degrees F.
Suggestions, comments, ideas?
--------
Ray
Riverside County, CA
Do Not Archive
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=144827#144827
Other Matronics Email List Services
These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.
-- Please support this service by making your Contribution today! --
|