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1. 03:51 AM - zoom zoom (tc1917)
2. 04:12 AM - Re: HAULING mk III without boom stand? (planecrazzzy)
3. 04:43 AM - Re: Mark II is an airworthy ELSA (planecrazzzy)
4. 06:09 AM - Re: Mark II is an airworthy ELSA (cristalclear13)
5. 06:40 AM - Re: zoom zoom (Russ Kinne)
6. 07:24 AM - Re: zoom zoom (Richard Girard)
7. 08:12 AM - Re: Mark II is an airworthy ELSA (planecrazzzy)
8. 10:37 AM - Re: Will Tathem contact info? (gary aman)
9. 10:46 AM - Re: HAULING mk III without boom stand? (gary aman)
10. 11:00 AM - Re: Will Tathem contact info? (gary aman)
11. 12:10 PM - Re: Will Tathem contact info? (Denny Rowe)
12. 12:12 PM - Re: Re: Mark II is an airworthy ELSA (Denny Rowe)
13. 02:24 PM - Re:fix a small hole (boyd)
14. 04:24 PM - Re: ferguson aircraft?? (John Hauck)
15. 04:34 PM - Re: Ultrastar fuel tanks (John Hauck)
16. 04:47 PM - Re: Re: Ultrastar fuel tanks (Dana Hague)
17. 04:53 PM - Re: fix a small hole (John Hauck)
18. 05:02 PM - Re: Mark II is an airworthy ELSA (John Hauck)
19. 06:07 PM - Re: fix a small hole (Wade Lawicki)
20. 06:37 PM - Re: Re: fix a small hole (Dana Hague)
21. 06:56 PM - Re: Mark II is an airworthy ELSA (cristalclear13)
22. 07:54 PM - Re: Re: fix a small hole (Kolbdriver)
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thanks everyone for the advice on the droning. I already have my fabric
covered with noise reducing fabric on the inside of the fus. learned that
from my firestar days. I started out with no extension on the prop, still
had three inches of clearance. Put the four inch extension on (had to
refinance the house for that 6 pound piece of alum and 'special' fasteners)
that did not help but reduced it a little. repitched the prop probably six
or seven times. did not help much. tuned the carbs, manually and vacuum,
again expensive set of gauges. checked plug gaps, loose and torn fabric
search, and even changed my top gap seals on both sides of the engine and
one under the right wing. (will change one under left wing) It sounds to
me that it is coming from the engine (gear box maybe) because the sound is
there from idle up and stays about the same beat but intensifies as rpms go
up. I wonder if the main gear in the gear box is not round and is looping.
really bothersome at around 47 to 4800 rpm, 90 mph range. I will keep
trying to find it. when I do, or if I do, I will let you all know and
archieve the info. thanks again. ted cowan, alabama
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| Subject: | Re: HAULING mk III without boom stand? |
Hey Grant,
Get a boom support fer yer Tail....
You might have Lucked out because the tail had the least amout of
bouncing with the tail at the hitch....
The Hole in the fabric.....Take a picture when you ask about stuff like that
....it could be as simple as tape....a picture might also stir up other questions...
Gotta Fly...
Mike & "Jaz" in MN
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> Did I screw up? I cant see any damage. What should I check for?
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> The plane was in the trailer tail 1st.
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> One other question: What is the best way to fix a small hole( the size of my
pinkie finger) in the horizontal stab?
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> Thanks,
> Grant
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| Subject: | Re: Mark II is an airworthy ELSA |
Hey Guys,
In the picture of Crystal's Plane....
Look at the "trim tab"....is that "size" really needed ?
Seems too big , almost like it could cause "Flutter"
it's almost touching the ground , I'll bet it has.
Gotta Fly...
Mike & "Jaz" in MN FSII/ No trim tabs
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| Subject: | Re: Mark II is an airworthy ELSA |
My trim tab does drag ground if I don't keep my stick pulled back. I keep a bungee
cord on it when I'm not in it.
I don't know if it's my trim tab that is too big. When I look at the picture of
ropermike's Mark II, his trim tab looks to be about the same size.
However it looks like his tailwheel keeps the back of the plane up higher than
mine. Kmet suggested (thanks Jim) I turn the tailwheel landing gear rod around
back there to make it higher, but I'm not sure exactly what part he's talking
about (the whole rod or just the attachment at the end). Let me get a close
up picture of my tailwheel assembly and post it here. I'll try to get it this
afternoon. I'm having to replace the nut back there with a castellated nut
(per the DAR) so I have it apart right now anyways.
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Ted
You probably used a stethoscope on the engine, gearbox, etc? Could be
most useful, but be careful that close to the prop!
On Nov 25, 2007, at 6:50 AM, tc1917 wrote:
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> thanks everyone for the advice on the droning. I already have my
> fabric covered with noise reducing fabric on the inside of the
> fus. learned that from my firestar days. I started out with no
> extension on the prop, still had three inches of clearance. Put
> the four inch extension on (had to refinance the house for that 6
> pound piece of alum and 'special' fasteners) that did not help but
> reduced it a little. repitched the prop probably six or seven
> times. did not help much. tuned the carbs, manually and vacuum,
> again expensive set of gauges. checked plug gaps, loose and torn
> fabric search, and even changed my top gap seals on both sides of
> the engine and one under the right wing. (will change one under
> left wing) It sounds to me that it is coming from the engine (gear
> box maybe) because the sound is there from idle up and stays about
> the same beat but intensifies as rpms go up. I wonder if the main
> gear in the gear box is not round and is looping. really bothersome
> at around 47 to 4800 rpm, 90 mph range. I will keep trying to find
> it. when I do, or if I do, I will let you all know and archieve
> the info. thanks again. ted cowan, alabama
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Ted, Have you tried taking the prop off, rotating it one lug and
reinstalling?
Rick
On Nov 25, 2007 8:38 AM, Russ Kinne <russ@rkiphoto.com> wrote:
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> Ted
> You probably used a stethoscope on the engine, gearbox, etc? Could be
> most useful, but be careful that close to the prop!
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> On Nov 25, 2007, at 6:50 AM, tc1917 wrote:
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> > thanks everyone for the advice on the droning. I already have my
> > fabric covered with noise reducing fabric on the inside of the
> > fus. learned that from my firestar days. I started out with no
> > extension on the prop, still had three inches of clearance. Put
> > the four inch extension on (had to refinance the house for that 6
> > pound piece of alum and 'special' fasteners) that did not help but
> > reduced it a little. repitched the prop probably six or seven
> > times. did not help much. tuned the carbs, manually and vacuum,
> > again expensive set of gauges. checked plug gaps, loose and torn
> > fabric search, and even changed my top gap seals on both sides of
> > the engine and one under the right wing. (will change one under
> > left wing) It sounds to me that it is coming from the engine (gear
> > box maybe) because the sound is there from idle up and stays about
> > the same beat but intensifies as rpms go up. I wonder if the main
> > gear in the gear box is not round and is looping. really bothersome
> > at around 47 to 4800 rpm, 90 mph range. I will keep trying to find
> > it. when I do, or if I do, I will let you all know and archieve
> > the info. thanks again. ted cowan, alabama
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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| Subject: | Re: Mark II is an airworthy ELSA |
Hi Crystal,
I'm sure he's talking about turning the rod over...
it might be a little "sprung" , you can use that to your advantage by
giving it a 180....
You can't always Taxi with the stick "back" ( some do )
Sometimes it's confusing , which way to hold the stick ( Not anymore )
One of the best "sayings" that I heard when I was getting my Tailwheel
endorsement was this....
"Wind Behind" - Blows the stick
"Headwind" - Pull Back , stick into the wind
That "saying" helps me "Just do it" , instead of thinking about it...
You've got a nice looking plane !
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Gotta Fly...
Mike & "Jaz" in MN
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| Subject: | Re: Will Tathem contact info? |
Denny,
The last contact number That I had for Will is 419-348-7075,a cell # I believe.He
is living in a motor home and traveling since May,when I took delivery of
his Mk-3
Denny Rowe <rowedenny@windstream.net> wrote: Kolbers,
Does anybody have Wll Tathams new contact info since he moved?
Denny Rowe
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| Subject: | Re: HAULING mk III without boom stand? |
Grant,
Did you ever see those little bullet hole decals?
I picked up the Kolb MK III and hauled it in a single axle enclosed trailer 800
miles. The trailer has a catch fro the tail wheel and didn't have a boom stand.
I just found out that it should not be hauled on the tail wheel.
I guess the guy didn't know it wasn't suppose to be hauled that way
Did I screw up? I cant see any damage. What should I check for?
I did have a strap across the front of the plane going through the doors snug to
keep the mains from bouncing out of the wheel chocks.
The plane was in the trailer tail 1st.
The chocks were screwed to the floor and the wheels were strapped in the chocks
and the strap I mentioned above was used to keep the plane from bouncing up.
One other question: What is the best way to fix a small hole( the size of my pinkie
finger) in the horizontal stab?
Thanks,
Grant
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| Subject: | Re: Will Tathem contact info? |
Let me try this again.To Denny Rowe:Wills last cell phone number was 419-348-7075.he
is traveling in a motor home after selling his home this May.I bought his
Mk-3 in April.
gary aman <gaman@att.net> wrote:
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| Subject: | Re: Will Tathem contact info? |
Gary,
Nothing came through either time.
Denny
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Sent: Sunday, November 25, 2007 2:00 PM
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Will Tathem contact info?
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| Subject: | Re: Mark II is an airworthy ELSA |
Cristal,
That is a really nice looking Mk-2.
That was the first Kolb that really grabbed my interest many years ago, I
have always liked the looks of the Mk-2s.
Denny Rowe
Mk-3 N616DR
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| Subject: | RE:fix a small hole |
One other question: What is the best way to fix a small hole( the size of my
pinkie finger) in the horizontal stab?
Thanks,
Grant
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Well it kind of depends on what kind of fabric and paint.
If it is Polly fiber fabric and Polly tone paint it is easy... 2 ways
1:
Trim the ragged parts out of the hole
Lay unshrunk patch material over the hole and trace the outline of the patch
with a #2 pencil, make sure you have the required over lap (1 inch for
holes smaller than 8 inches ) cut the patch with pinking shears.
Mask off the area outside the patch, leave an extra 1/2 inch or so of
working room larger than the patch.
Clean off all the coatings inside the masked area with mek. Everything will
wipe off readily, right down the bare fabric.
Cement the patch to the old fabric with poly-tak, let it dry.
With a 225 deg iron, heat smooth the cemented areas.
With a 350 deg iron, heat shrink the area of the patch over the hole. This
acts as a shrinking panel to retighten the fabric in the area of the repair.
Use a piece of cardboard as a shield to keep the iron off the cemented
areas.
Brush on a coat of poly brush and let it day.
Spray poly spray to fill.
Paint with poly tone. You will find the poly tone is easy to spot spray into
the old paint with a good match unless the old paint is faded.
2:
Band aid option
It is perfectly safe and legal to just scuff sand the old poly tone and
cement directly on top of the old paint without cleaning off all the
coatings. It just looks pretty rough when finished. The poly tak will hold
just fine to the old poly tone.
Instructions from Poly fiber aircraft coatings book.
If you have other paint or fabric,,,, call a distributor and follow their
directions.
Boyd
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| Subject: | Re: ferguson aircraft?? |
Hi Guys:
Bill Ferguson bought a mkIII kit from Homer Kolb.
Later, Bill contacted Homer with a deal to correct all the errors in Homer's mkIII
design. Homer told Ferguson he was not interested in his changes.
Sun and Fun 1991 Bill Ferguson showed up with his improved model of the Kolb MKIII.
The fuselage and wings had been redesigned, but the tailboom and the tail
section were straight from Homer's kit. The folding mechanism for the elevators
and horizontal stabilizers took Homer Kolb and Dennis Souder a tremendous
amount of time and effort to design and build. Ferguson made no effort to change
the tail section, but claimed his airplane to be a Ferguson. I personally
believe this hurt Homer a great deal.
Take care,
john h
mkIII
Edwards AFB, CA
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hauck's holler, alabama
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| Subject: | Re: Ultrastar fuel tanks |
The capacity of the orginal US tanks was 1 3/4 gal.
I could not do much flying on the stock two each tanks. Got Little Mike at Kolb
to send me a third which I mounted above the engine for my reserve tank. Gravity
fed it into the two lower tanks. Worked great.
Later on Kolb had some 6 gal tanks made that would fit in the place of the two
gokart tanks. That increased my fuel capacity to 7.75 gals.
john h
mkIII
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hauck's holler, alabama
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| Subject: | Re: Ultrastar fuel tanks |
At 07:33 PM 11/25/2007, John Hauck wrote:
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>The capacity of the orginal US tanks was 1 3/4 gal.
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>I could not do much flying on the stock two each tanks. Got Little Mike
>at Kolb to send me a third which I mounted above the engine for my reserve
>tank. Gravity fed it into the two lower tanks. Worked great.
>
>Later on Kolb had some 6 gal tanks made that would fit in the place of the
>two gokart tanks...
I likely will add a third tank as you describe... if it's 1.5 gallons then
the total will still be the legally allowed 5 gallons.
OTOH... do you know if Kolb still has the 6 gallon tank you describe? Was
the mounting the same, or does the cage need to be modified?
Had a beautiful flight today, if chilly... good weather like this is rare
this time of year in New England.
-Dana
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| Subject: | Re: fix a small hole |
Back in the old days I used to go through the process of doing it the Stitts or
Polyfiber way.
After 1994, unless it is a large hole, bigger than an inch or two, and depending
whether it is in a critical to flight area, I stick a "sticker" on the hole.
Most of the holes in the fabric of my 1992 mkIII are in the fuselage or tail
section area. Probably have 30 lbs of sticker on the old gal.
If I am out on a long flight, 1 or 2 inch black electrical tape works great. So
does duct tape.
I patched a 1/2" hole in the top of a wing, made with a screw driver, by making
a dollar patch with clear packing tape and pinking shears. Spray painted it
with Aerothane. No one knew it was there. The clear packing tape accepted the
top coat of two part Aerothane with no problem.
john h
mkIII
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MKIII/912ULS
hauck's holler, alabama
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| Subject: | Re: Mark II is an airworthy ELSA |
Cristal:
I have discovered over a few years of building, flying, breaking these things (Kolbs),
the length of the tail wheel strut can be cut very short. This takes
a lot of slop out of the tailwheel in the form of reducing the amount of free
play it has in the stock configuration. Also, if one happens to have a hard landing
on the tail wheel, it keeps the tail wheel mechanism out of the bottom
of the rudder.
I like about 4 inches of tail wheel strut exposed between the tail wheel struct
socket and the tail wheel.
john h
mkIII
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MKIII/912ULS
hauck's holler, alabama
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| Subject: | Re: fix a small hole |
Grant,
Go to the hobby shop or find a friend that has some mono-kote for covering
model airplanes, get the color close and cut a circle an inch bigger than
the hole. start at the outside edges with a iron set at 225, seal the whole
diameter then work your way inward. it sticks to the poly without burning it
and will last a long time.
Fly Safe,
Wade
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| Subject: | Re: fix a small hole |
At 09:07 PM 11/25/2007, Wade Lawicki wrote:
> Go to the hobby shop or find a friend that has some mono-kote
> for covering model airplanes, get the color close and cut a circle an
> inch bigger than the hole. start at the outside edges with a iron set at
> 225, seal the whole diameter then work your way inward. it sticks to the
> poly without burning it and will last a long time.
The problem with Monokote is that it's mylar film; if it starts to rip it
keeps on ripping. I haven't tried it as a Stits repair, but Coverite's
prepainted 21st Century Fabric (
http://www.coverite.com/covering/covq0301.html ) or Super Coverite (
http://www.coverite.com/covering/covq1000.html ) iron on the same way but
are dacron fabric. Hmmm, maybe I should get some and try it.
I've used ripstop nylon for small repairs on my Ultrastar. The roll I have
came with the plane, but it looks like "spinnaker tape" sold at marine stores.
-Dana
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| Subject: | Re: Mark II is an airworthy ELSA |
Thanks for the compliments and suggestions. I have attached a picture and labeled
the parts on the tailwheel rod A, B, and C, since I don't know what they are
officially called.
So John, are you saying that you would make section B shorter?
All, How does B come of out of C to either cut it or rotate it?
If I rotate B, will I turn C back around to the way it is now or should it also
rotate?
If I leave the tailwheel as it is and just make an elevator stop (or adjust it
if it's adjustable) will that be good enough?
Thanks for your help and suggestions.
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Cristal
Mark II Twinstar
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| Subject: | Re: fix a small hole |
Why not use stits to patch it the same way???
Give Jim and Dondie a call..
PHONE: 1-877-877-3334
FAX: 1-614-877-3337
EMAIL: info@aircrafttechsupport.com
Real nice folks!
Mike
Oak Grove Missouri
Mark III Classic (one of the last of Old Kolb) - 0hrs
Suzuki G13B 1.3L - 0hrs
Started with Big Lar still behind...
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[mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Wade Lawicki
Sent: Sunday, November 25, 2007 8:07 PM
Subject: Kolb-List: Re: fix a small hole
Grant,
Go to the hobby shop or find a friend that has some mono-kote for
covering model airplanes, get the color close and cut a circle an inch
bigger than the hole. start at the outside edges with a iron set at 225,
seal the whole diameter then work your way inward. it sticks to the poly
without burning it and will last a long time.
Fly Safe,
Wade
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