---------------------------------------------------------- Kolb-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Mon 11/26/07: 6 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 0. 12:06 AM - Make Sure You're Listed! List of Contributors Published Dec 1! (Matt Dralle) 1. 06:53 AM - Re: Re: fix a small hole (Richard Girard) 2. 08:41 AM - Re: Re: fix a small hole (Richard Pike) 3. 12:34 PM - Prop Blade Balance (Kirby Dennis Contr MDA/AL) 4. 02:35 PM - Re: Re: fix a small hole (Richard Girard) 5. 04:04 PM - Re: Re: fix a small hole (Richard Pike) ________________________________ Message 0 _____________________________________ Time: 12:06:07 AM PST US From: Matt Dralle Subject: Kolb-List: Make Sure You're Listed! List of Contributors Published Dec 1! Dear Listers, The List of Contributors (LOC) is just around the corner! On December 1st I post a list of everyone that so generously made a Contribution to support the Lists. 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Don't forget to include a little comment about how the Lists have helped you! Thank you! Matt Dralle Matronics Email List Administrator ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 06:53:30 AM PST US From: "Richard Girard" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: fix a small hole I pass this along without personally trying it, but the A & P who gave it to me recovered a T-craft last spring that won at this year's AirVenture. When doing small patches, make a frame of appropriate size to the task at hand and staple a piece of cloth to it. Shrink per manufacturer's recommendations. Cut out patches, pink edges, and attach per manufacturer's recommendations. Rick On Nov 25, 2007 9:53 PM, Kolbdriver wrote: > > Why not use stits to patch it the same way??? > > Give Jim and Dondie a call.. > > PHONE: 1-877-877-3334 > FAX: 1-614-877-3337 > EMAIL: info@aircrafttechsupport.com > > > Real nice folks! > > Mike > > Oak Grove Missouri > Mark III Classic (one of the last of Old Kolb) - 0hrs > Suzuki G13B 1.3L - 0hrs > Started with Big Lar still behind... > Do not archive > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Wade Lawicki > Sent: Sunday, November 25, 2007 8:07 PM > To: kolb-list@matronics.com > Subject: Kolb-List: Re: fix a small hole > > > Grant, > Go to the hobby shop or find a friend that has some mono-kote for > covering model airplanes, get the color close and cut a circle an inch > bigger than the hole. start at the outside edges with a iron set at 225, > seal the whole diameter then work your way inward. it sticks to the poly > without burning it and will last a long time. > > Fly Safe, > Wade > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=148489#148489 > > ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 08:41:23 AM PST US From: Richard Pike Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: fix a small hole Here's one more way: Take a piece of fabric, and dope it to a glass window or other flat glass plate with Poly-Brush. Let it dry and then pop it off, scrape the excess mess off the glass with a razor blade. Then cut out your patch, pink the edges, etc and dope it in place with Poly-Brush. Saves the trouble of making a frame, and still gives you a perfectly flat smooth patch. Plus you can still shrink it later to tighten it up if necessary. Also works with wide tapes if you should happen to need one of those instead. Richard Pike MKIII N420P (420ldPoops) Richard Girard wrote: > I pass this along without personally trying it, but the A & P who gave > it to me recovered a T-craft last spring that won at this year's > AirVenture. > When doing small patches, make a frame of appropriate size to the task > at hand and staple a piece of cloth to it. Shrink per manufacturer's > recommendations. Cut out patches, pink edges, and attach per > manufacturer's recommendations. > > Rick > > > On Nov 25, 2007 9:53 PM, Kolbdriver > wrote: > > > > > Why not use stits to patch it the same way??? > > Give Jim and Dondie a call.. > > PHONE: 1-877-877-3334 > FAX: 1-614-877-3337 > EMAIL: info@aircrafttechsupport.com > > > > Real nice folks! > > Mike > > Oak Grove Missouri > Mark III Classic (one of the last of Old Kolb) - 0hrs > Suzuki G13B 1.3L - 0hrs > Started with Big Lar still behind... > Do not archive > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com > > [mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com > ] On Behalf Of Wade > Lawicki > Sent: Sunday, November 25, 2007 8:07 PM > To: kolb-list@matronics.com > Subject: Kolb-List: Re: fix a small hole > > > > > Grant, > Go to the hobby shop or find a friend that has some > mono-kote for > covering model airplanes, get the color close and cut a circle an inch > bigger than the hole. start at the outside edges with a iron set > at 225, > seal the whole diameter then work your way inward. it sticks to > the poly > without burning it and will last a long time. > > Fly Safe, > > Wade > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=148489#148489 > > > * > > > * > ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 12:34:22 PM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Prop Blade Balance From: "Kirby Dennis Contr MDA/AL" (Note - Subject line changed to reflect current topic) Larry Bourne wrote: <<...are all 3 blades the same weight now ?? I'd think they hafta be. >> Big Lar, and Kolbers - You are right: prop blades should weigh within fractions of grams of each other for best, vibration-free performance. This is one of the reasons I went with a Powerfin. Before I ever purchased a propeller for my Kolb, I happened to wander into the Powerfin shop at the Arlington airport (Washington state) and struck up a conversation with Stuart, the owner. He showed me his entire manufacturing process. At the end of the production line, the blades are weighed, with weights noted at both the root and the tip. I observed one technician drilling out a tiny core from the tip of one blade and inserting a small metal bar (1/16" diam, about 1/4" long - more like a piece of wire) into the hole. He told me that he was adding weight (a tenth of a gram) in order to make it match the weights of the other two blades. That's how close Powerfin balances their blades. I love my Powerfin. Although it may not be as robust as a Warp when engine parts go thru it (oops), it is absolutely smooth at all power settings. Dennis Kirby Mark-III, 912ul, Powerfin 3-blade F-model, in Cedar Crest, NM ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 02:35:48 PM PST US From: "Richard Girard" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: fix a small hole Richard, As I said, the pre-shrinking idea came from my neighbor, but using unshrunk fabric means the patch will be understrength compared to the fabric to which it's attached, doesn't it? Rick On Nov 26, 2007 10:24 AM, Richard Pike wrote: > > Here's one more way: Take a piece of fabric, and dope it to a glass > window or other flat glass plate with Poly-Brush. Let it dry and then > pop it off, scrape the excess mess off the glass with a razor blade. > Then cut out your patch, pink the edges, etc and dope it in place with > Poly-Brush. Saves the trouble of making a frame, and still gives you a > perfectly flat smooth patch. Plus you can still shrink it later to > tighten it up if necessary. Also works with wide tapes if you should > happen to need one of those instead. > > Richard Pike > MKIII N420P (420ldPoops) > > Richard Girard wrote: > > I pass this along without personally trying it, but the A & P who gave > > it to me recovered a T-craft last spring that won at this year's > > AirVenture. > > When doing small patches, make a frame of appropriate size to the task > > at hand and staple a piece of cloth to it. Shrink per manufacturer's > > recommendations. Cut out patches, pink edges, and attach per > > manufacturer's recommendations. > > > > Rick > > > > > > On Nov 25, 2007 9:53 PM, Kolbdriver > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > Why not use stits to patch it the same way??? > > > > Give Jim and Dondie a call.. > > > > PHONE: 1-877-877-3334 > > FAX: 1-614-877-3337 > > EMAIL: info@aircrafttechsupport.com > > > > > > > > Real nice folks! > > > > Mike > > > > Oak Grove Missouri > > Mark III Classic (one of the last of Old Kolb) - 0hrs > > Suzuki G13B 1.3L - 0hrs > > Started with Big Lar still behind... > > Do not archive > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com > > > > [mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com > > ] On Behalf Of Wade > > Lawicki > > Sent: Sunday, November 25, 2007 8:07 PM > > To: kolb-list@matronics.com > > Subject: Kolb-List: Re: fix a small hole > > > > > > > > > Grant, > > Go to the hobby shop or find a friend that has some > > mono-kote for > > covering model airplanes, get the color close and cut a circle an > inch > > bigger than the hole. start at the outside edges with a iron set > > at 225, > > seal the whole diameter then work your way inward. it sticks to > > the poly > > without burning it and will last a long time. > > > > Fly Safe, > > > > Wade > > > > > > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=148489#148489 > > > > > > * > > > > > > * > > > > ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 04:04:17 PM PST US From: Richard Pike Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: fix a small hole Not if you go back and shrink it after it is doped on, which is what you would normally do. If you preshrink it, and your fabric around the hole or the patch itself turns out to be a bit slack, then what do you do? Uh-oh. Attach your pre-doped patch, and then shrink it. So far, it's worked for me. (And actually, this is one of those things that's hard to get wrong, almost anything will turn out good, with just a little care and thought...) Richard Pike MKIII N420P (420ldPoops) Richard Girard wrote: > Richard, As I said, the pre-shrinking idea came from my neighbor, but > using unshrunk fabric means the patch will be understrength compared > to the fabric to which it's attached, doesn't it? > > Rick > > On Nov 26, 2007 10:24 AM, Richard Pike > wrote: > > > > > Here's one more way: Take a piece of fabric, and dope it to a glass > window or other flat glass plate with Poly-Brush. Let it dry and then > pop it off, scrape the excess mess off the glass with a razor blade. > Then cut out your patch, pink the edges, etc and dope it in place with > Poly-Brush. Saves the trouble of making a frame, and still gives you a > perfectly flat smooth patch. Plus you can still shrink it later to > tighten it up if necessary. Also works with wide tapes if you should > happen to need one of those instead. > > Richard Pike > MKIII N420P (420ldPoops) > > Richard Girard wrote: > > I pass this along without personally trying it, but the A & P > who gave > > it to me recovered a T-craft last spring that won at this year's > > AirVenture. > > When doing small patches, make a frame of appropriate size to > the task > > at hand and staple a piece of cloth to it. Shrink per manufacturer's > > recommendations. Cut out patches, pink edges, and attach per > > manufacturer's recommendations. > > > > Rick > > > > > > On Nov 25, 2007 9:53 PM, Kolbdriver > > >> > wrote: > > > > < kolbdriver@mlsharp.com > >> > > > > Why not use stits to patch it the same way??? > > > > Give Jim and Dondie a call.. > > > > PHONE: 1-877-877-3334 > > FAX: 1-614-877-3337 > > EMAIL: info@aircrafttechsupport.com > > > > > > > > > > Real nice folks! > > > > Mike > > > > Oak Grove Missouri > > Mark III Classic (one of the last of Old Kolb) - 0hrs > > Suzuki G13B 1.3L - 0hrs > > Started with Big Lar still behind... > > Do not archive > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com > > > > > > [mailto: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com > > > >] On Behalf Of Wade > > Lawicki > > Sent: Sunday, November 25, 2007 8:07 PM > > To: kolb-list@matronics.com > > > > Subject: Kolb-List: Re: fix a small hole > > > > > >> > > > > Grant, > > Go to the hobby shop or find a friend that has some > > mono-kote for > > covering model airplanes, get the color close and cut a > circle an inch > > bigger than the hole. start at the outside edges with a > iron set > > at 225, > > seal the whole diameter then work your way inward. it sticks to > > the poly > > without burning it and will last a long time. > > > > Fly Safe, > > > > Wade > > > > > > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=148489#148489 > > > * > > > * > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message kolb-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/Kolb-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/kolb-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/kolb-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.