---------------------------------------------------------- Kolb-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Wed 11/28/07: 19 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 0. 12:29 AM - Wow! A Ton of Comments! (Matt Dralle) 1. 07:06 AM - Re: Ultrastar fuel tanks (John Hauck) 2. 08:04 AM - Re: Mark II is an airworthy ELSA (cristalclear13) 3. 08:45 AM - Re: HAULING mk III without boom stand? (cristalclear13) 4. 09:46 AM - Re: Re: HAULING mk III without boom stand? (Dana Hague) 5. 09:51 AM - Re: Re: Ultrastar fuel tanks (Dana Hague) 6. 10:29 AM - Re: HAULING mk III without boom stand? (grantr) 7. 10:59 AM - Re: Re: HAULING mk III without boom stand? (Larry Cottrell) 8. 12:11 PM - Re: Re: HAULING mk III without boom stand? (George T. Alexander, Jr.) 9. 12:11 PM - Re: Re: HAULING mk III without boom stand? (Aaron Gustafson) 10. 01:18 PM - Re: Re: HAULING mk III without boom stand? (ElleryWeld@aol.com) 11. 01:24 PM - Re: Re: Ultrastar fuel tanks (John Hauck) 12. 02:03 PM - Re: Re: Ultrastar fuel tanks (Dana Hague) 13. 02:18 PM - Re: Re: Ultrastar fuel tanks (John Hauck) 14. 03:46 PM - Re: Re: HAULING mk III without boom stand? (Dana Hague) 15. 03:53 PM - Re: Re: HAULING mk III without boom stand? (gary aman) 16. 04:13 PM - Re: Re: HAULING mk III without boom stand? (Aaron Gustafson) 17. 07:24 PM - Runway or wild boars...hmm (cristalclear13) 18. 08:37 PM - Re: Runway or wild boars...hmm (Mike Welch) ________________________________ Message 0 _____________________________________ Time: 12:29:19 AM PST US From: Matt Dralle Subject: Kolb-List: Wow! A Ton of Comments! Dear Listers, I've been getting a ton of great comments from Listers along with their List Support Contributions lately! I've shared a bunch more below. Please read over some of them and see what your fellow Listers think of the Lists and Forums. 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Jim S ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 07:06:12 AM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Ultrastar fuel tanks From: "John Hauck" The little gokart tank is 1.75 gal as indicated in my previous post. Doubt very seriously Kolb has the old US 6 gal tanks. The six gal tank mounted to the existing tank mount tabs. -------- John Hauck MKIII/912ULS hauck's holler, alabama Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=149113#149113 ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 08:04:08 AM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Mark II is an airworthy ELSA From: "cristalclear13" Thanks John. And thanks to all those who have sent me helpful information and guidance off-list. I appreciate your time. -------- Cristal Mark II Twinstar Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=149124#149124 ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 08:45:18 AM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Re: HAULING mk III without boom stand? From: "cristalclear13" grantr wrote: > Are there any plans for a simple boom stand? I don't know about plans, but I may try to copy this guy's boom stand (picture attached). But looks like it's just for storing, not traveling. -------- Cristal Mark II Twinstar Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=149128#149128 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/close_up_of_boom_wing_dolly_small_211.jpg ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 09:46:53 AM PST US From: Dana Hague Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: HAULING mk III without boom stand? At 11:44 AM 11/28/2007, cristalclear13 wrote: >grantr wrote: > > Are there any plans for a simple boom stand? > > >I don't know about plans, but I may try to copy this guy's boom stand >(picture attached). But looks like it's just for storing, not traveling. Here's a picture of the telescoping stand in my trailer: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v486/flyparafan/Kolb/Trailer_1193.jpg You can't see too much, but I can take some more pictures if anybody wants. Basically it swings up into position and straps to the boom, then I simply lift the boom and it extends and locks into place. -Dana -- The man who would be fully employed should procure a ship or a woman, for no two things produce more trouble" - Plautus 254-184 B.C. ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 09:51:58 AM PST US From: Dana Hague Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Ultrastar fuel tanks At 10:05 AM 11/28/2007, John Hauck wrote: > >The little gokart tank is 1.75 gal as indicated in my previous post. > >Doubt very seriously Kolb has the old US 6 gal tanks. > >The six gal tank mounted to the existing tank mount tabs. I'll give it a shot... I'm sure you're right that they don't have any more, but like the little kart tanks, I doubt they used anything custom made so somebody might remember where to get it. Anyway, one can hope. -Dana do not archive -- The man who would be fully employed should procure a ship or a woman, for no two things produce more trouble" - Plautus 254-184 B.C. ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 10:29:47 AM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Re: HAULING mk III without boom stand? From: "grantr" Dana, Please do post more pics of it. I have an idea in mind. I am thinking of using a 2X6 and some heavy duty hinges to make a swing up boom stand. I attached a sketch . the gray is the hinge. yellow is the rope. front being from of the trailer. What do you guys think of this? Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=149147#149147 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/boom_stand_979.bmp ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 10:59:04 AM PST US From: "Larry Cottrell" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: HAULING mk III without boom stand? I believe that George Alexander (I think) gathered up all the various ideas of those on the list for boom tube support and put them on a web site. You might go through those to find what you need. Larry C do not archive ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 12:11:51 PM PST US From: "George T. Alexander, Jr." Subject: RE: Kolb-List: Re: HAULING mk III without boom stand? http://gtalexander.home.att.net Click on "Trailering a Kolb" Larry's appears to be one of the easiest to operate. George DO NOT ARCHIVE -----Original Message----- From: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Larry Cottrell Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2007 1:58 PM Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: HAULING mk III without boom stand? --> I believe that George Alexander (I think) gathered up all the various ideas of those on the list for boom tube support and put them on a web site. You might go through those to find what you need. Larry C do not archive ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 12:11:51 PM PST US From: "Aaron Gustafson" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: HAULING mk III without boom stand? Jim Swan (on this list) has the Firestar trailer that I built. He may be able to post some pictures of the tail support in it. I think it worked very well and easy if I might blow my horn. Aaron G. do not archive ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 01:18:09 PM PST US From: ElleryWeld@aol.com Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: HAULING mk III without boom stand? I personally wouldnt haul a Kolb on that setup because it is not the shape of the Tailboom tube I saw what the previous owner of my old firestar did almost something just like that and it made a Nice flat spot on the bottom of the tail boom tube and I ended up buying a NEW Tube Not cheap I made an Aluminum fold down bracket in the trailer with a U shaped carpet lined on the top and straped the tail boom tube down in it I hauled it all the way from MAINE to Minnesota with no problems But your welcome to experiment with yours as you please My 2 cents worth Ellery Building Mk3Xtra do not archive **************************************Check out AOL's list of 2007's hottest products. (http://money.aol.com/special/hot-products-2007?NCID=aoltop00030000000001) ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 01:24:04 PM PST US From: "John Hauck" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Ultrastar fuel tanks Dana: The 6 gal fuel tank for the US was custom made. john h mkIII Rio Rancho, NM ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 02:03:31 PM PST US From: Dana Hague Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Ultrastar fuel tanks At 04:23 PM 11/28/2007, John Hauck wrote: >The 6 gal fuel tank for the US was custom made. Wow, that must've cost a bit considering the relatively low production volume... but back then all the ultralight companies were pretty optimistic... -Dana do not archive -- They say that politics makes strange bedfellows. Of course, the main reason they cuddle up is to screw somebody else. ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 02:18:15 PM PST US From: "John Hauck" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Ultrastar fuel tanks | Wow, that must've cost a bit considering the relatively low production | volume... but back then all the ultralight companies were pretty optimistic... | | -Dana Dana: If Dennis Souder is monitoring the List he could fill you in on cost back in 1984-85 to have those tanks blown. I don't know of any other application the tank could have been used for. I remember securing the 6 gal tank in my US with 4 each really big heavy duty nylon tie wraps. Worked great! john h mkIII Rio Rancho, NM ________________________________ Message 14 ____________________________________ Time: 03:46:47 PM PST US From: Dana Hague Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: HAULING mk III without boom stand? At 01:29 PM 11/28/2007, grantr wrote: >Please do post more pics of it. OK... pix of mine are at: http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v486/flyparafan/Kolb/Trailer/ The cradle itself is a piece of PVC pipe, split down the middle, and lined with closed cell polyethylene foam, with wood support. The cradle pivots at the end of a 2X4 which telescopes into the main support. In the "up" position, it's supported by a spring loaded latch (made from a plastic block and a spring load door hinge). A ball lock pin backs it up when it's on the road. The main cradle is two sections of plywood sandwiching the inner 2X4's, forming a pocket for the moving piece to slide into (the moving piece is shaved down slightly so it moves easily). The whole arrangement is hinged to the floor of the trailer, so it can fold down and allow the plane to roll out. The latch makes it easy: I roll the plane into the trailer and strap down the main wheels. Then I flip up the support, extend the cradle, and strap it to the boom tube. I then simply lift the tail up until the latch clicks into place, put the safety pin in, and I'm ready to go. The pictures show the sequence in reverse. The safety pin lanyard is attached to the latch, so that's what I pull to release the latch, while supporting the tail with my other hand, which I then lower gently to the floor. The only change I intend to make is to add a cable to limit how far back the support can pivot, so that if the wheel straps come loose, the plane can't roll back against the doors. -Dana -- Children seldom misquote you. In fact, they usually repeat word for word what you shouldn't have said. ________________________________ Message 15 ____________________________________ Time: 03:53:58 PM PST US From: gary aman Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: HAULING mk III without boom stand? I would like to try to post some picts of my boom support.I hope I do this right.If not,sorry in advance. G.Aman Dana, Please do post more pics of it. I have an idea in mind. I am thinking of using a 2X6 and some heavy duty hinges to make a swing up boom stand. I attached a sketch . the gray is the hinge. yellow is the rope. front being from of the trailer. What do you guys think of this? Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=149147#149147 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/boom_stand_979.bmp ________________________________ Message 16 ____________________________________ Time: 04:13:22 PM PST US From: "Aaron Gustafson" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: HAULING mk III without boom stand? I like Gary's even better than mine!!! Aaron ----- Original Message ----- From: gary aman To: kolb-list@matronics.com Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2007 5:53 PM Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: HAULING mk III without boom stand? I would like to try to post some picts of my boom support.I hope I do this right.If not,sorry in advance. G.Aman grantr wrote: Dana, Please do post more pics of it. I have an idea in mind. I am thinking of using a 2X6 and some heavy duty hinges to make a swing up boom stand. I attached a sketch . the gray is the hinge. yellow is the rope. front being from of the trailer. What do you guys think of this? Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=149147#149147 Attachments: ------------------------------------------------------------------------- --- ------------------------------------------------------------------------- --- ------------------------------------------------------------------------- --- ------------------------------------------------------------------------- --- 11/28/2007 12:29 PM ________________________________ Message 17 ____________________________________ Time: 07:24:35 PM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Runway or wild boars...hmm From: "cristalclear13" We were thinking of making our long narrow strip of woods into a runway, but after seeing this guy show up near my front door I may just keep driving to the airport. We don't know how he got into our electric fence...it wasn't broken anywhere, but our goats sure were wondering "What the heck?!?!" [Shocked] -------- Cristal Mark II Twinstar Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=149231#149231 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/wild_boar_554.jpg http://forums.matronics.com//files/wild_boar_closeup2_436.jpg ________________________________ Message 18 ____________________________________ Time: 08:37:25 PM PST US From: Mike Welch Subject: RE: Kolb-List: Runway or wild boars...hmm Cristal, I'd vote for a runway, and celebrate it over a nice ham dinner. What part of the country do you live in, to have such nice terrain, and trees? Mike Welch Kolb MkIII Dr Jeckel/Mr. Hyde Do not archive > Subject: Kolb-List: Runway or wild boars...hmm > From: cristalclearwaters@juno.com > Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2007 19:24:07 -0800 > To: kolb-list@matronics.com > > > We were thinking of making our long narrow strip of woods into a runway, but after seeing this guy show up near my front door I may just keep driving to the airport. > We don't know how he got into our electric fence...it wasn't broken anywhere, but our goats sure were wondering "What the heck?!?!" > [Shocked] > > -------- > Cristal > Mark II Twinstar > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=149231#149231 > > > Attachments: > > http://forums.matronics.com//files/wild_boar_554.jpg > http://forums.matronics.com//files/wild_boar_closeup2_436.jpg > > _________________________________________________________________ Share life as it happens with the new Windows Live.Download today it's FREE! http://www.windowslive.com/share.html?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_Wave2_sharelife_112007 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message kolb-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/Kolb-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/kolb-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/kolb-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.