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1. 03:56 AM - Re: Re: Ultrastar fuel tanks (Dana Hague)
2. 07:19 AM - Re: Ultrastar fuel tanks (jb92563)
3. 12:25 PM - Re: Re: Ultrastar fuel tanks (Dana Hague)
4. 01:48 PM - Re: Ultrastar fuel tanks (jb92563)
5. 02:16 PM - Re: Re: Ultrastar fuel tanks (Dana Hague)
6. 04:36 PM - Flying without gap seal !!! (JetPilot)
7. 05:31 PM - Re: Flying without gap seal !!! (Larry Cottrell)
8. 05:48 PM - Re: Flying without gap seal !!! (ElleryWeld@aol.com)
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| Subject: | [Please Read] - Last Official Day of List Fund Raiser! |
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| Subject: | Re: Ultrastar fuel tanks |
At 12:33 AM 11/30/2007, jb92563 wrote:
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>Here are some pics of my fiberglass tank.
Thanks Ray,
That does look like it was nicely done. How does it attach to the
frame? If I change the tank or add an aux tank I'd rather not do any
welding on the frame.
Always interesting to see the differences... sometimes I think I'm the only
one without a nose fairing! Though yours is the only one I've seen besides
mine with the wing leading edge tubes extended outside of the center rib...
I have a tube that sleeves over them, that gets slipped into place joining
them together after the wings are unfolded. What are those rectangular
projections that look like "handles" on the main downtubes, just behind and
above the seat? Also, no fuel pump? And is that a crack in the engine
frame, just above the left rear mounting bolt, or just dirt?
-Dana
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| Subject: | Re: Ultrastar fuel tanks |
Those pictures are of the plane as I received it.....dirty.....but no cracks.
Those things that look like handles are handles.
I hang on to it, plus put my foot in front of the wheel when pull starting so I
don't end up in the prop if the Kolb start rolling.
The glass tank inserts from the seat area(remove seat) and has molded in saddles
on the bottom and top so it can ride on the frame cross members and is attached
with hose clamps.
It is offset to the left side well clear of the control rods on the right side
of the frame.
I also think its more than 5 gallons......perhaps 6.
I installed a different fuel filter....sump type and also put a pump on the engine
bracket where you see those 2 holes.
Also missing from that pic is the short whindshield, my instruments and the 4"
drum brakes I just got that I need to install.
I also need to zinc chromate a bunch of parts and do some painting.
But the poly fiber is all patched and ready to go.
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Ray
Riverside County, CA
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| Subject: | Re: Ultrastar fuel tanks |
At 10:19 AM 11/30/2007, jb92563 wrote:
>Those things that look like handles are handles.
>
>I hang on to it, plus put my foot in front of the wheel when pull starting
>so I don't end up in the prop if the Kolb start rolling.
After looking at some other pictures on the web (including the other pix of
your plane on the Ultrastar yahoo group), it looks like many Ultrastars
have a headrest there. On mine, the starter cord runs up and and through a
pulley attached to the wing universal bolt, so I'm pulling down to start
the engine. This way, I can start while standing right in front of the
landing gear leg so it can't roll past me. I can also start it (though not
easily given the condition of my shoulder) while sitting in the seat, which
is nice.
Most likely I'll add a third 1.5 gallon auxiliary tank behind the seat, and
keep the existing tanks, for the 5 gallon total. Possibly this one (easy
to mount), or something similar:
<http://fluids.flambeau.com/multipurpose_tanks/6.0_quart.html>http://fluids.flambeau.com/multipurpose_tanks/6.0_quart.html
-Dana
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| Subject: | Re: Ultrastar fuel tanks |
Dana,
Do you think you could do an in air restart with your pull starter?
Not sure how valuable this would be since once an engine has stopped in flight
I don't think there is much chance of it running again and the time would be better
spent concentrating on a landing spot rather than trying repeatedly to relight
the engine.
I assume the engine would only stop from fuel starvation, seizure, or plug fouling
and hence futile to attempt a restart.
I had considered that but turning the engine off to soar is the only reason I could
think of to make restarting from the seat desirable.
Anyone have opinions about this?
Dana, I also wondered if you had brakes on yours?
Seeing that you fly from grass however it may not be necessary.
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Ray
Riverside County, CA
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| Subject: | Re: Ultrastar fuel tanks |
At 04:47 PM 11/30/2007, jb92563 wrote:
>Do you think you could do an in air restart with your pull starter?
I don't see why not, though I haven't tried it yet. I will, though, once I
get more confident in my spot landings.
>Not sure how valuable this would be since once an engine has stopped in
>flight I don't think there is much chance of it running again and the time
>would be better spent concentrating on a landing spot rather than trying
>repeatedly to relight the engine.
Only with plenty of altitude!
It did quit on me once, just as I was flaring to land; the idle mixture
wasn't set right. I rolled off the runway, and restarted it from the seat
with one pull at about 1/4 throttle. Having a remote choke (I don't, now)
would make an in-air restart more likely.
>I had considered that but turning the engine off to soar is the only
>reason I could think of to make restarting from the seat desirable.
Yes, and I love doing that with my PPG, though I can't restart that in the
air. The ability to restart from the seat could be useful if I'm at
another airport and have to start in a tight spot on pavement; I wouldn't
want the plane to start rolling as I'm climbing in.
>Dana, I also wondered if you had brakes on yours?
>
>Seeing that you fly from grass however it may not be necessary.
Yes, I do (and I don't fly from grass though I'd prefer to; the airport
owner doesn't allow takeoffs and landings from the grass). Mine are Free
Bird's Black Max disk brakes with Hegar heel cylinders. A very nice setup.
-Dana
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| Subject: | Flying without gap seal !!! |
Not that I would try this, but the MK-III Xtra with a 912-S appears to fly very
well without a gap seal. I'm sure performance would be increased with a gap
seal, but its nice to know it will also do fine without it :) See the video
at:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nc6EyqAccMo
Mike
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"NO FEAR" - If you have no fear you did not go as fast as you could
have !!!
Kolb MK-III Xtra, 912-S
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| Subject: | Re: Flying without gap seal !!! |
>
> Not that I would try this, but the MK-III Xtra with a 912-S appears to fly
> very well without a gap seal. I'm sure performance would be increased
> with a gap seal, but its nice to know it will also do fine without it :)
> See the video at:
Yep, with enough power you can even make an F4 fly, but having done both
with and without a gap seal on M3's with a 582, I durn sure could not ever
think of a reason to duplicate the without part again.
Larry C
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| Subject: | Re: Flying without gap seal !!! |
I told you so
Ellery couldn't resist a post on that one
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