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1. 03:06 AM - Re: Flight characteristics of the Kolb FSII & The Challenger (pj.ladd)
2. 03:31 AM - Re: Flight characteristics of the Kolb FSII & The Challenger (pj.ladd)
3. 04:12 AM - Re: Flight characteristics of the Kolb FSII & The Challenger (pj.ladd)
4. 06:18 AM - Re: Re: Elevator trim tab information needed (Charlie England)
5. 06:47 AM - Re: Flight characteristics of the Kolb FSII (robert bean)
6. 06:56 AM - Re: Flight characteristics of the Kolb FSII (John Hauck)
7. 07:18 AM - Re: Flight characteristics of the Kolb FSII & The Challenger (ElleryWeld@aol.com)
8. 08:20 AM - Re: Flight characteristics of the Kolb FSII & The Challenger (Larry Cottrell)
9. 08:38 AM - Re: Flight characteristics of the Kolb FSII & The Challenger (Wade Lawicki)
10. 09:24 AM - Re: Flight characteristics of the Kolb FSII & The Challenger (JetPilot)
11. 09:47 AM - Re: Elevator trim tab information needed (JetPilot)
12. 09:56 AM - Re: Flight characteristics of the Kolb FSII (JetPilot)
13. 12:12 PM - Reinventing the trim wheel (Mike Welch)
14. 01:51 PM - Re: Re: Flight characteristics of the Kolb FSII & The Challenger (beauford T)
15. 02:59 PM - Re: Flight characteristics of the Kolb FSII & The Challenger (Jim ODay)
16. 07:07 PM - Kolb-List HELP ! I need firestar weight and balance (BMWBikeCrz@aol.com)
17. 07:46 PM - Re: Re: Elevator trim tab information needed (Michael Sharp)
18. 08:04 PM - Re: Flight characteristics of the Kolb FSII & The Challenger (azfirestar)
19. 08:40 PM - Re: need advice on extra fuel tank hook up (azfirestar)
20. 11:04 PM - AN hardware - Is there a replacement schedule or useful life (John H Murphy)
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| Subject: | Re: Flight characteristics of the Kolb FSII & The Challenger |
the main gear cables broke and one gear leg collapsed. >>
Good grief Will, I would have bet you could lift the Titanic with that
braided cable. Even after the cable breaks there is the torsion of the
main fuselage longerons, which must be around 1,1/4"" in diameter. I am
surprised you didn`t break your back with an impact like that. If he
makes many similar landings and with a rcord of wiping off nosewheels
i don`t think I would want to fly with him at all.
Friendship is a wonderful thing.
Cheers
Pat
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| Subject: | Re: Flight characteristics of the Kolb FSII & The Challenger |
only way once it progressed so far to get it back in line was cross control
the critter>>
Hi Larry,
a lot of people seem to be running down the poor old Challenger so I assume
therer must be something in it.. Perhaps it is something to do with the
doors. As i selected the open cockpit version I never flew one with doors
on.
I can only say that I almost always sideslipped in to a landing at my field,
because I like doing it, but as soon as I let go of the fully crossed
controls she would straighten up. That doesn`t sound to me like a plane
without directional stability. Perhaps that dorsal fin addition to the tail
fin really did work. I remember seeing about 5 Challengers waiting to take
off from some west coast airfield, Seattle or Vancouver, and I noticed that
none of them had the dorsal fin. Perhaps it is unusual over there. With our
system if a fault was discovered the PFA would prscribe a `fix" and ALL
planes would have to be modified. Immediately if it was potentially
dangerous fault, by the next C of A if it was considered minor. In my case
the dealer rang me, we fixed a date and he arrived and fitted the dorsal fin
in my hangar within a few days. That does seem to indicate some urgency.
Usually the pilot is left to make his own arrangements. Perhaps without the
dorsal fin she really was as bad as you suggest.
The Challenger is not alone in needing a dorsal fin. I remember the B-17 had
one added pretty quickly after the original design reached Squdrn service.
Cheers
Pat
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| Subject: | Re: Flight characteristics of the Kolb FSII & The Challenger |
I understand it is not too difficult to accomplish the wiping off part since
the nose gear is attached to an aluminum cross tube with two hose clamps.>>
Not exactly right John,
The nosewheel IS held on by two hose clamps but ham handedness is required
to wipe it off.
I did put a couple extra jubilee clips on mine and the nose wheel was solid
as a rock. Mind you I never wheelbarrowed the plane in on the nosewheel as
is seen quite often with tricycle undercart designs. That will collapse
them no matter what sort of plane it is. I always operated from a farmers
field which was not particlarly smooth and never had any trouble. The
Challenger should have minimal weight on the nose, she sits on the tail
wheel when the pilot is not aboard, and the nosewheel is designed to keep
the nose off the ground and to steer with. Thats all. If the pilot puts a
load on any part of a plane which is outside the design parameters, it will
break.
Regarding low time Kolb pilots giving advice on flying. I freely admit that
I am in that category. It is also obvious that some pilots, particularly in
the early days of ultralighting, taught themselves to fly. There was no
other way. Some pilots got away with it but a lot were hurt and to recommend
that course in these days when alternatives are available seems a bit
perverse.
My comments were not based on my Kolb flying experience but on the
accumulated experience of ALL pilots. Messing about just above the stall
close to the ground is dangerous. Just as Neptune is always waiting for a
sailor to make a mistake, Mr Newton is always there waiting for a pilot to
mess up.It is simple enough, You get about 20 ft up in still air, 5 knots
above the stall, a thermal goes up from a nearby field drawing air into
itelf. Your still air changes to 5 knots on the tail, the plane stops
flying, you have no height to get the nose down....Kaboong!
I have been there. When I was learning hang gliding I tried to take off as
the wind dropped and broke my leg. Lucky to get away with it.
Pat
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| Subject: | Re: Elevator trim tab information needed |
I think y'all are chasing the wrong gremlin.
It isn't that the motor is oscillating, it's the fact that the
combination of weight, linkage, trim tab, mounting method, etc changes
the aerodynamic characteristics of the control surface & the new
assembly *might* be more likely to flutter. All that extra stuff will
have its own resonant frequency and it will also change the resonant
frequency of the control surface it's attached to.
BTW, oscillation *can* happen if you're using a servo-type motor &
controller instead of a plain DC gear motor & simply reversing the power
leads to drive it.
Charlie
Ed Chmielewski wrote:
> Hi Mike S.,
>
> Would be very interested in hearing about your electric trim
> fluttering back-and-forth.
>
> In over 30 years of flying, I've yet to see one do that. Have
> had runaways and frozen trim problems, but never one go back-and-forth
> independently. Not saying it's impossible, just have never heard of
> such happening. I agree it's nearly impossible for an electric trim to
> induce flutter. They don't work that fast. Haven't seen an NTSB report
> citing such either.
>
> Ed in JXN
> MkII/503
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> *From:* Michael Sharp <mailto:kolbdriver@mlsharp.com>
> *To:* kolb-list@matronics.com <mailto:kolb-list@matronics.com>
> *Sent:* Wednesday, December 05, 2007 9:39 PM
> *Subject:* Re: Kolb-List: Re: Elevator trim tab information needed
>
> No Mike, YOU ARE NOT!
>
> I've seen several of electric motors flutter back and forth...
>
> Seems to me that if someone wants a "real airplane" maybe they
> should have bought one...
>
> Mike
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| Subject: | Re: Flight characteristics of the Kolb FSII |
Jus' smack it down.
I always enjoy newspaper reports of off-field landings, usually
reported as a "crash".
The most amusing was a recent touch down in one of the Finger Lakes
reported as a "crash"
-maybe a splash instead?
BB
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| Subject: | Re: Flight characteristics of the Kolb FSII |
> Jus' smack it down.
> BB
Bob B:
Easy to tell when Bob's brain starts to chill from the Rochester winters.
How is work progressing on your mkIII?
Put skis, or better yet, ice skates on it and go fly. ;-)
john h
mkIII 58F and rising......................
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| Subject: | Re: Flight characteristics of the Kolb FSII & The Challenger |
one more thing on a Challenger that I didn't care about I had taken a
passenger with me once in one and all he complained about was there is not enough
room for his feet and he could not operate the rudder good enough from the back
seat
one of the Challengers I know about on his first few attempts of flying the
rig had managed to break one of the main gear cables on a hard landing after a
short flight a 100 feet or so down the strip and it scared the $h!t out of
him and he told me he didn't have any rudder control and there was something
wrong with the plane so I helped him fix it and he wasn't to crazy about trying
it again, so I tried it for him and it was like the other challengers I have
flown, that's just the way they are. that built confidence in him enough to
try it on a later date and he has had a few incidents with it smashed nose
up a couple times
To keep this KOLB related I am still building MK3xtra and Going to stick
with KOLB Airplanes
Ellery
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| Subject: | Re: Flight characteristics of the Kolb FSII & The Challenger |
----- Original Message -----
From: "pj.ladd" <pj.ladd@btinternet.com>
Sent: Saturday, December 08, 2007 4:31 AM
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Flight characteristics of the Kolb FSII & The
Challenger
>
> only way once it progressed so far to get it back in line was cross
> control the critter>>
>
> Hi Larry,
> a lot of people seem to be running down the poor old Challenger so I
> assume therer must be something in it.. Perhaps it is something to do with
> the doors. As i selected the open cockpit version I never flew one with
> doors on.
Perhaps that was the problem with the one that I flew. It was cold as could
be (30's) and I was glad to have something to keep the wind off me. The
problem didn't occur in slipping in for a landing, ( I did that a lot as the
instructor wanted me to land on a announced spot for my check ride) it was
in the straight flight that the tail wanted to lead. I learned a lot and if
I didn't know what a Kolb flew like, I probably wouldn't have known any
better. They have some good features no doubt, just not enough to prefer
one over a Kolb.
Larry C
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| Subject: | Re: Flight characteristics of the Kolb FSII & The Challenger |
There is alot of talk about the challenger design on other lists also.More of possible design flaws that have gone unchanged do to liability issues. They cant go back and say something was flawed without opening up litigation. The main point being the leading edge attachment using a RONY bracket that was originally used on the single place and has not been changed since , and is also used on the 2 place models. Other issues are in a spar slice at the root section of the wing. here is a snip from the http://groups.yahoo.com/group/quicksilverultralightowners -
"I just left the drug store with the negatives of a 2 place challenger that came
apart 4 years ago Killing both on board, I Represented USUA on the incident
and partook in the investigation, I would show the video of the incident but the
families don't deserve to re-live the trauma. I will post the investigative
photos of the aftermath. Then you all can be the judge, Just know the flaw not
only lies in the Ronny brackets/attach, it also exists in the Spar Splice at
the root of the trailing edge which is in the wrong place to start and it is
not a tight fit, its to short and to many rivets concentrated without any standard
pattern, that matches AC-4313 for tube splices. In addition you have an airframe
that is sold with no corrosion protection,stainless rivets,in an alclad
frame with bare steel parts to boot, its a flying battery. I addressed my concerns
and finding,reviewed a build manual only to be turned away by Dave Guliet.....What
a pity because this could all be avoided. It will rear its ugly head
as theses planes continue to age........Mark My words! "
Al Sibi
Director of Production Indus Aviation
Dallas Texas
Former Quick Dealer/ Region 4 USUA Regional Rep
Former Vice President Jersey Shore Ultralights 96-2000
I do not own or fly a challenger so, I make no claims myself but have heard this
over and over on many lists but the challenger list and believe that anyone
considering flying or buying one should be fully informed and cautious.
Fly Safe, Wade
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| Subject: | Re: Flight characteristics of the Kolb FSII & The Challenger |
pj.ladd(at)btinternet.com wrote:
>
> Hi ,
> I would love to hear about them. I have flown a Challenger for years, built
> it myself and it always struck me as very strongly engineered.
>
> Pat
When making the decision of which plane to buy, I did a lot of research on accidents
and failures. In my research, one thing that turned up time and time again
was structural failures of Challengers. Documented cases, people talking
about problems, it came up again and again. Structural failures was reason
enough to keep me away from this plane, but that combined with the rudder, and
other things make it one of the very worst designs out there. I suggest doing
google searches of things like Challenger structural failure, problems, etc.
etc. Use lots of words and also use the advanced search to exclude the word
shuttle... It takes a while, but if you use imagination and take the time, you
can find lots of good information.
It is very common for a person that has a plane to like it, and gain a false sense
of security in it even if it is a bad, dangerous design. I would suggest
that you do research on the web, the information is there, lots of cases and discussion,
if you really want to know the truth about Challengers.
I also did the same type of research on Kolb aircraft, and found very few cases
of structural failures. The things that caused the failures in the Kolbs are
mostly older and have been fixed. More ribs in wings, better welding... What
I never saw with Kolbs were lots unexplained failures and people talking about
lots of structural problems in relation to Kolbs. Made for an easy choice
:)
Mike
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| Subject: | Re: Elevator trim tab information needed |
Michael Sharp wrote:
> Ed,
>
> Hello there. My statement was "I've seen several of electric motors flutter
back and forth". I never said anything about electric trim. ---
The discussion is about electric trim, and you made this statement in response
to an electric trim discussion, you very clearly implied that you were talking
about electric trim.
Michael Sharp wrote:
>
> No Mike, YOU ARE NOT!
>
I know we have had our disagreements in the past. It is obvious that you were
so anxious to jump into this and take sides, you were willing to post bad and
misleading information just so that you could jump on the bandwagon. Now that
this is not going the way you thought, and there is no group bashing, your response
is " I did not say what I posted ".
Maybe getting over past differences would be the best way to go here. People come
here for good information about Kolbs, we should try to post good and accurate
information, not just try to disagree with someone you don't like.
Mike
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| Subject: | Re: Flight characteristics of the Kolb FSII |
John Hauck wrote:
>
>
> Put skis, or better yet, ice skates on it and go fly. ;-)
>
> john h
> mkIII 58F and rising......................
Ice Skates, now there is an idea, No Drag !!!
Mike
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| Subject: | Reinventing the trim wheel |
Kolb masses,
It was me that requested "trim design change" suggestions. Thanks to all
that offered their opinions on the value of changing the current design.
While I have a tendency to always want to reinvent the "wheel", I think i
n this case I will follow Jonh H.'s and Bob B.'s advice. If they are quite
satisfied with the present performance of the airplane's trim as designed,
I don't see any reason to change to a new unproven modification.
For those that definitely plan to install an electric trim of their own d
esign, I would certainly be intersted in their opinion of it's performance,
and maybe some photos. If, for watever reason, I am not quite satisfied w
ith the current design, then maybe I may change at some future date, after
I have had sufficient experience to make an intelligent comparison.
But...why change it, if works fine like it is.
I've been a re-installing the fuselage fabric (Poly Fiber) yesterday and
today. Boy, it is always facinating to watch that stuff shrink up tight as
a drum, like you knew what you were doing!!
Headin' back to the shop, I'd sure like to finish the fuelage fabric toda
y.
Mike Welch Kolb MkIII "Second hundred
years"
(Remember that TV show?)
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| Subject: | Re: Flight characteristics of the Kolb FSII & The Challenger |
Talked today with the CFI who gave me the BFR in his Challenger II... The
subject of this Kolb List thread on the Challengers came up. He is a
retired military aviator with boucoup (old Vietnamese term) hours, who is
also a graduate aeronautical engineer, current FAA A&E, IA, etc.... He said
that he recently experienced the loss of his Challenger's factory provided
plastic rudder trim tab in flight and the experience was memorable... to be
explicit, he said it "scared the living s#%t out of me..." He indicated
that the airplane became almost uncontrollable with any significant amount
of engine power applied, constantly wanting to turn hard to the left, and it
took constant application of full right rudder to maintain sufficient
control to limp back to the airport. It was only when he cut the power on
short final that the airplane became controllable with normal inputs... He
expressed surprise that this relatively small tab could have such a profound
effect on the controllability of the airplane.
He fabricated a new trim tab from aluminum sheet and said he would never use
the stock plastic item again.
sounds exciting....
Worth what ye paid fer it....
beauford
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Wade Lawicki" <wlawicki@yahoo.com>
I do not own or fly a challenger so, I make no claims myself but have heard
this over and over on many lists but the challenger list and believe that
anyone considering flying or buying one should be fully informed and
cautious.
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| Subject: | Re: Flight characteristics of the Kolb FSII & The Challenger |
The name of the plane says it all.
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| Subject: | Kolb-List HELP ! I need firestar weight and balance |
anyone Here have a copy of their Firestar weight and balance so I have some
starting point ....
377 Rotax , Minimal Instruments ,No Brakes , 5 gallon fuel tank Behind pilot
E mail me directly Thanks ! Dave
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| Subject: | Re: Elevator trim tab information needed |
NO SIR!
The reply that i made was to a Kolber who stated that servo's and or motors chatter
or flutter.
You are the one who is in error once again!
JetPilot <orcabonita@hotmail.com> wrote:
Michael Sharp wrote:
> Ed,
>
> Hello there. My statement was "I've seen several of electric motors flutter back
and forth". I never said anything about electric trim. ---
The discussion is about electric trim, and you made this statement in response
to an electric trim discussion, you very clearly implied that you were talking
about electric trim.
Michael Sharp wrote:
>
> No Mike, YOU ARE NOT!
>
I know we have had our disagreements in the past. It is obvious that you were so
anxious to jump into this and take sides, you were willing to post bad and misleading
information just so that you could jump on the bandwagon. Now that this
is not going the way you thought, and there is no group bashing, your response
is " I did not say what I posted ".
Maybe getting over past differences would be the best way to go here. People come
here for good information about Kolbs, we should try to post good and accurate
information, not just try to disagree with someone you don't like.
Mike
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| Subject: | Re: Flight characteristics of the Kolb FSII & The Challenger |
I found the postings on the rudder effectiveness of the Challenger very interesting.
The stability of a flying object about any axis is derived from the center
of gravity (CG) being in front of the center of pressure (i.e. aerodynamic
surface area). I almost became an aviation statistic about 10 years ago as a
passenger in a friend's Challenger II (the only time I ever wanted to jump out
of a plane). The CG was aft because of me (170 lb) in the back seat and the
heavier 582 engine, and the center of pressure was forward because of the surface
area of the doors. The net result was the aircraft was not yaw-stable when
the engine was throttled back and propwash reduced over the rudder. The rudder
was almost totally ineffective on final approach and we came very close to
spinning in during multiple attempts to land. If you have a Challenger II with
a lighter engine, no doors, and/or flying solo, then you may not experience
any problems.
If the manufacturer has not done anything about the yaw stability, then I consider
that disreputable. Unfortunately, as someone said before, the legal repercussions
of admitting the mistake are probably a big factor.
In regard to your first flight in a any aircraft, I don't recommend the crow hops
down the runway if you are a low time pilot. If you are a good pilot it may
not be an issue, but the quick transitions from take off to landing could easily
get a low time pilot into an awkward situation. I have read multiple accident
reports where someone was taxi testing an aircraft, got airborne unexpectedly
and stalled due to some combination of unusual attitude, low airspeed, and
insufficient throttle.
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| Subject: | Re: need advice on extra fuel tank hook up |
If you want more range then you might want to get the 6 gal tanks from Kolb. I
bought two of them and they fit fine in my Firestar II. The new tanks actually
hold 6.5 gal when filled as high as the old ones needed to be to get 5 gal.
I also switched to a bottom-drain configuration (instead of the pickup tube
coming out the top of the tank). Now it doesn't matter that the aft tank is a
little higher than the fwd tank in flight - both drain down to a low point in
a 3/8" fuel line. I can suck them dry without worrying about fuel splashing
away from the pickup because the 3/8 fuel like acts like a low sump. I never
plan to go anywhere without the required 30-min reserve, but it is a great safety
feature in case you run into an unanticipated headwind and there is no place
to make a good landing. Also, I can now get a true 30 minutes from the lower
part of the tank instead of having to leave 2 gallons in there to ensure the
pickups do not suck air. All together I gained about 5 gallons usable fuel
without having to add an extra tank.
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Dan G.
503 Firestar II
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| Subject: | AN hardware - Is there a replacement schedule or useful life |
The AN hardware that attaches the wings, wing struts, tail feathers, etc. Is there
a useful life for this hardware? My aircraft is about 7 years old.
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