---------------------------------------------------------- Kolb-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Tue 12/18/07: 9 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 09:16 AM - Re: Re: Flight characteristics of the Kolb FSII & The Challenger (pj.ladd) 2. 09:44 AM - Re: Re: Flight characteristics of the Kolb FSII & The Challenger (pj.ladd) 3. 02:03 PM - Re: Flight characteristics of the Kolb FSII & The Challenger (Thom Riddle) 4. 03:32 PM - Good flying videos (grantr) 5. 04:39 PM - Re: Good flying videos (possums) 6. 05:42 PM - Re: Good flying videos (grantr) 7. 06:25 PM - Re: Re: Flight characteristics of the Kolb FSII & The Challenger (Dana Hague) 8. 07:16 PM - Re: Re: Good flying videos (possums) 9. 08:20 PM - Re: Good flying videos (grantr) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 09:16:31 AM PST US From: "pj.ladd" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Flight characteristics of the Kolb FSII & The Challenger John, You sure are wound tight aren't you.>> Bryan, if you REALLY want to get John going ask him about Vortex Generators........ Cheers Pat :-) ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 09:44:59 AM PST US From: "pj.ladd" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Flight characteristics of the Kolb FSII & The Challenger This Challenger's empty weight is nearly 800 pounds (!!),>> Good grief, no wonder he can`t climb. I weigh 0ver 200lbs, probably more with my flying kit on, and my Challenger with a 503 delivered a climb of better than 500 ft per min. for the first 500ft and just a little less to 1000ft.. It is no good just applying rudder in a Challenger. She just ignores it. You have to get some stick into it as well. I should get your friend to embark on a course of Full English Breakfasts. Eggs,bacon, sausage,black pudding,fried bread, tomatoes. Followed by toast and marmalade. After about 3 weeks he will have added another 20 lbs to his weight and won`t be able get the Challenger off the ground at all and will probably prolong his life quite a bit. As he is it is an accident waiting to happen. Cheers Pat :-). ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 02:03:20 PM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Flight characteristics of the Kolb FSII & The Challenger From: "Thom Riddle" Richard, That was a great story. Thanks for sharing. As we age and grow circumferentially, boarding and un-boarding (if that is a word) become more important decision criteria for sure. Several years ago I saw a pretty Taylorcraft for sale that sort of interested me. I took the trouble to get into it and out of it and said no thank you. Too much work. -------- Thom in Buffalo N221FA Allegro 2000 912UL N197BG FS1/447 -------------------- Believe nothing, no matter where you read it or who has said it, not even if I have said it, unless it agrees with your own reason and your own common sense. - Buddha Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=152963#152963 ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 03:32:47 PM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Good flying videos From: "grantr" http://www.youtube.com/profile_videos?user=stearman81n&p=r Check out this guys flying videos pretty good dead stick demonstration. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=152979#152979 ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 04:39:49 PM PST US From: possums Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Good flying videos At 06:31 PM 12/18/2007, you wrote: > >http://www.youtube.com/profile_videos?user=stearman81n&p=r > >Check out this guys flying videos pretty good dead stick demonstration. You're in trouble now. ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 05:42:38 PM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Good flying videos From: "grantr" In trouble now????? :? Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=152999#152999 ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 06:25:54 PM PST US From: Dana Hague Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Flight characteristics of the Kolb FSII & The Challenger At 05:02 PM 12/18/2007, Thom Riddle wrote: >...Several years ago I saw a pretty Taylorcraft for sale that sort of >interested me. I took the trouble to get into it and out of it and said no >thank you. Too much work. Actually the Taylorcraft (I used to own one) is very easy to get in and out of, but if and only if you use the right sequence. -Dana -- Software isn't released, it's allowed to escape. ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 07:16:10 PM PST US From: possums Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Good flying videos At 08:40 PM 12/18/2007, you wrote: > >In trouble now????? :? Just kidding - it's a ____ ultralight. ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 08:20:44 PM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Good flying videos From: "grantr" Its not a Ultralight Its a light sport airplane :D Ultralights are not real airplanes LOL 8) Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=153036#153036 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message kolb-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/Kolb-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/kolb-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/kolb-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.