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1. 03:19 AM - Re: Monument Valley at Night (David Lucas)
2. 07:53 AM - Re: Wire Label Printer (jb92563)
3. 09:42 AM - Re: How do you like your FireFly? (jb92563)
4. 09:47 AM - Garbled Reply - Christmas greetings (David Kulp)
5. 10:20 AM - Re: Re: How do you like your FireFly? (John Hauck)
6. 10:28 AM - Re: Mission Specific (jb92563)
7. 10:31 AM - Re: Garbled Reply - Christmas greetings (jb92563)
8. 10:33 AM - Re: Garbled Reply - Christmas greetings (Eugene Zimmerman)
9. 10:38 AM - Re: Powder Coatings - after the fact (jb92563)
10. 11:18 AM - Re: Re: How do you like your FireFly? (Eugene Zimmerman)
11. 12:01 PM - Re: How do you like your FireFly? (jim)
12. 02:33 PM - Re: Re: Mission Specific (Dana Hague)
13. 02:44 PM - (Steve Kroll)
14. 04:29 PM - Re: per request some more pix of the M3X (jb92563)
15. 04:54 PM - Re: Re: per request some more pix of the M3X (Ron)
16. 05:08 PM - bent gear (Bryan Dever)
17. 05:27 PM - Re: bent gear (henry.voris)
18. 06:04 PM - Re: Re: How do you like your FireFly? (N27SB@aol.com)
19. 06:07 PM - Re: Re: Mission Specific (N27SB@aol.com)
20. 06:39 PM - Re: Re: Mission Specific (Dana Hague)
21. 07:07 PM - Re: bent gear (planecrazzzy)
22. 07:19 PM - Re: Re: bent gear (Bryan Dever)
23. 09:13 PM - Re: Re: bent gear (robert bean)
24. 10:44 PM - Re: How do you like your FireFly? (JetPilot)
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| Subject: | Re: Monument Valley at Night |
> now I have to make the Kolb pilgrimage there one of these days.
Me too Ron ! The fantastic beauty of nature. Awe inspiring !
Closest I can come to that picture was one I took in the Australian outback on
a clear moonless night, I took a time exposure photo of Ayers Rock (that now goes
by its aboriginal name of 'Uluru'). It was illuminated my starlight only and
even at night the ochre collours of the rock came through. During the shoot,
the camera lens was facing South so you could see the arc of the stars caused
by the rotation of the Earth. My younger sister, not especially skilled in natural
physics, on seeing the print asked me if that's what the stars looked like
out in the 'outback'. Still brings a smile to my face. :)
Now lets see, when's the next unofficial Monument valley fly in ?
David.
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| Subject: | Re: Wire Label Printer |
A visit to staples will also yield some inexpesive label makers.
The selection is far to great and then you need to decide what kind of label tape
you want and the maximum size labels you want to print.
I choose black letters on white background for maximum visibility, but there are
other background colors including clear.
The printer always creates Black letters with its built in laser.
Handy for wiring, Panel and control lever setting labels.
Just like in the comercials you might end up labeling to many things and end up
with enough instructions for a non-pilot to be able to fly your plane [Laughing]
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| Subject: | Re: How do you like your FireFly? |
Jet Pilot,
I disagree with your comment about reflexed ailerons/spoilerons being bad and requiring
a lot of trim forces.
I own an HP-11 glider that has Flaps on 66% of the trailing edge that go from 90
degrees to -5 degrees reflexed and in a nicely designed wing/tail/control system
you barely need any trim forces.
My stick in fact has no trim adjustment nor any trim tabs and the stick forces
are negligable from 90 to -5....hard to imagine but true.
Its not even a flying tail so I am not sure how the designer accomplished the neutral
forces other than harmonizing the wing/tail forces to a fine degree.
Its nice to go 40mph with 10 degree flaps and then accelerate to 90mph with -5
degree flaps with virtually no change in stick back pressure.
I will agree however that flaperons are not ideal in some flight modes as improper
design or rigging may show its ugly head near the stall.
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Kolb UltraStar (Cuyuna UL-202)
Moni MotorGlider
Schreder HP-11 Glider
Riverside County, CA
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| Subject: | Christmas greetings |
Computer savvy folks on the Kolb list,
I have a frustrating problem. When I hit "reply to list" on a post, I
get an email window with the text pane totally blank. In order to give
some flow to my reply, I copy and paste a portion of the referenced post
and add my response.
But..........!!, when I open it on the list, my reply and the
copy/pasted excerpt are all garbled together - kind of like getting two
AM stations on the radio at once (remember that??). Can someone clue me
in on what I'm doing wrong, or what I could do righter to get it better.
I'll paste the entire garbled mess below to help the pro(s) know what's
hap-nin.
Thanks!
Dave Kulp
Bethlehem, PA
FireFly 098
Time: 12:08:35 PM PST US
From: "David Kulp" <undoctor@ptd.net>
Subject: Re: Christmas greetings
Dana,
I thought this to be a forum for building and flying Kolb
aircraft not a right
wing evangelical republican propaganda site.
John
Dana Hague <d-m-hague@comcast.net> wrote:
To All My Democrat Friends:
Please accept with no obligation, implied or implicit, my
best
wishes for an environmentally conscious, socially
responsible,
low-
stress, non-addictive, gender-neutral celebration of the
winter
solstice holiday, practiced within the most enjoyable
traditions
of
the religious persuasion of your choice, or secular
practices of
your choice, with respect for the religious/secular
persuasion...Anyone who cares,My bro lists pretty far to the port
side
and he sends stuff like this. We don't agree on everything
philosophically, but we both still have a sense of humor.Merry
Christmas
to all. Keep smiling.Dave KulpBethlehem, PADo Not Archive
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| Subject: | Re: How do you like your FireFly? |
that go from 90 degrees to -5 degrees reflexed and in a nicely
designed wing/tail/control system you barely need any trim forces.
| Ray
Ray/Gang:
Kolbs are not gliders. When one adds a high thrust line pusher, or a
low thrust line pusher (your Ultrastar for instance) the flight
characteristics change.
My mkIII flies perfectly trimmed when the engine is off and I am
gliding. However, when I fire it up and bring up the power, the high
thrust line with lots of power pushing on that long lever, pushes the
nose down. Then I need some mechanical trim (spring loaded up
elevator cable) to take the load off the stick. I can also lighten
the load with aileron and flap adjustments. I also lowered the
leading edge of the horizontal stabilizers. I try to get the whole
aircraft working most efficiently for me.
The Ultrastar was not affected much with the low pusher configuration.
Probably because the high wing with the engine and pilot hanging under
the wing, coupled with drag, helps compensate for the low thrust line.
My Ultrastar acted much more like a tractor than the high thrust line
Kolbs.
Someone mentioned changing thrust line of the engine. I went through
those experiements early on with my new 1992 mkIII. Changing the
engine left, right, up and down, had negligible effect on how the
mkIII trimmed up. I also changed the leading edge of the upper
vertical stabilizer, with very little improvement. Ended up putting
the engine and vertical stab back in the stock, straight, original
position.
Most of the ideas, experiments, mods, etc., that you all are bashing
around now have been done in the past. The way my mkIII is set up and
flown today is the result of all those ideas. Some worked, some
didn't.
There are still ideas to be checked out. Maybe one of these days I
will get around to seeing if they will improve my mkIII or not.
Merry Xmas, Happy New Year,
john h
mkIII
Mobile, Alabama
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| Subject: | Re: Mission Specific |
That a great environment you have out there for your plane.
If I had more lake around here in SoCal I'd also put on floats but I worry about
landing on land with a power out on floats.
Any idea what would happen if you did?
Perhaps a mono float setup that I had been thinking about would allow me to keep
my wheels.....problem is always the weight thought being part 103 and even the
Max gross weight of the design.
What is the max part 103 allowance for floats?
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Moni MotorGlider
Schreder HP-11 Glider
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| Subject: | Re: Garbled Reply - Christmas greetings |
Looks like perfectly clear "Garbled" to me.
I don't think that is a problem!
Or are you getting the extra normally hidden control codes and such that at numbers
ampersands slashes etc?
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| Subject: | Re: Christmas greetings |
Dave,
Try this.
Before you hit "reply" , simply highlight just the portion of the
message you want included in your reply then hit Reply. Only the
portion you highlighted should show on your reply message. Then type
your reply message and hit "Send".
Gene
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On Dec 26, 2007, at 12:44 PM, David Kulp wrote:
> Computer savvy folks on the Kolb list,
>
> I have a frustrating problem. When I hit "reply to list" on a post,
> I get an email window with the text pane totally blank. In order to
> give some flow to my reply, I copy and paste a portion of the
> referenced post and add my response.
>
> But..........!!, when I open it on the list, my reply and the copy/
> pasted excerpt are all garbled together - kind of like getting two
> AM stations on the radio at once (remember that??). Can someone
> clue me in on what I'm doing wrong, or what I could do righter to
> get it better. I'll paste the entire garbled mess below to help the
> pro(s) know what's hap-nin.
>
> Thanks!
>
> Dave Kulp
> Bethlehem, PA
> FireFly 098
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| Subject: | Re: Powder Coatings - after the fact |
I would worry about changing the temper(strength/durability) of aluminum parts.
Ask the shop what the tempering temps of various types of aluminum are and if they
have no clue, choose a shop that does understand and care.
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| Subject: | Re: How do you like your FireFly? |
Jim.
for best results,
If you are flying a Jet, take the advise of the JetPilot.
If you are flying a glider, take the advise of the glider pilot.
If you are flying a Kolb, take the advise of "The Kolb Pilot".
The pitch trim effects of aileron/ flap adjustments on a slender high
aspect glider wing do not have anywhere near the same effect as on a
short low aspect Kolb wing.
Try adjusting your ailerons. You'll be amazed at how easily a Kolb
plane can be trimmed for pitch
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| Subject: | Re: How do you like your FireFly? |
Thanks for everybody's inputs. All advice is appreciated.
Since it snowed 9 inches this morning, I probably won't be able to make any changes
real soon. I will install the adjustable U-joint ASAP and am confident it
will correct my left-wing heavy problem. After that, I will see where I am
on the pitch issue.
Thanks again.
Jim Dunn
N. Idaho
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| Subject: | Re: Mission Specific |
At 01:27 PM 12/26/2007, jb92563 wrote:
>If I had more lake around here in SoCal I'd also put on floats but I worry
>about landing on land with a power out on floats.
>
>Any idea what would happen if you did?
Seaplane pilots I know don't worry about putting down on land; the floats
just slide... could even be better than puttling wheels down on soft ground.
>What is the max part 103 allowance for floats?
30 lbs per float, 10 lbs for each outrigger float.
-Dana
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I thought some of you would consider these photos thrilling while for others, it's
a walk in the park. I'm not in the walk in the park gang but I know this
puppy would soar like an angel in the thermals we have in Texas.
http://www.ulf-1.com/stills
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| Subject: | Re: per request some more pix of the M3X |
I'm always amazed at how flimsy the tubing supporting an engine "looks" compared
to the weight of the engine.
I somehow feel safer that the UltraStar engine would pass under my butt in the
event of a crash instead of passing over my head as the other Kolbs.
Either way though its going to hurt a lot.
Looks good, when do you plan to be taking to the air?
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| Subject: | Re: per request some more pix of the M3X |
I wish I knew. I have to work, and that takes me on the road / air a lot. When
I am home and have time, and I don't need to work on the Beech Sierra I work
on the Kolb.
Ron
Arizona
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---- jb92563 <jb92563@yahoo.com> wrote:
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I'm always amazed at how flimsy the tubing supporting an engine "looks" compared
to the weight of the engine.
I somehow feel safer that the UltraStar engine would pass under my butt in the
event of a crash instead of passing over my head as the other Kolbs.
Either way though its going to hurt a lot.
Looks good, when do you plan to be taking to the air?
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Hello all,
I remember seeing a picture of a jig someone made for straightening bent
aluminum gear legs. Unfortunately, I have found myself in need of such a
device. Anyone know where to find pics or plans??
Thanks,
Bryan Dever
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Bryan,
I can't remember who posted these... It was not me... but I had to straighten my
gear too, so I picked up these photos from the list.
Good Luck!
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| Subject: | Re: How do you like your FireFly? |
In a message dated 12/26/2007 2:19:34 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
ez@embarqmail.com writes:
The pitch trim effects of aileron/ flap adjustments on a slender high
aspect glider wing do not have anywhere near the same effect as on a
short low aspect Kolb wing.
Try adjusting your ailerons. You'll be amazed at how easily a Kolb
plane can be trimmed for pitch
BINGO
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| Subject: | Re: Mission Specific |
In a message dated 12/26/2007 5:34:23 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
d-m-hague@comcast.net writes:
Seaplane pilots I know don't worry about putting down on land; the floats
just slide... could even be better than puttling wheels down on soft ground.
>What is the max part 103 allowance for floats?
30 lbs per float, 10 lbs for each outrigger float.
-Dana
Thanks Dana that sounds right although if you have a mono you might get a
few more pounds for the main float. as far as in the rough landings, I
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| Subject: | Re: Mission Specific |
At 09:07 PM 12/26/2007, N27SB@aol.com wrote:
>30 lbs per float, 10 lbs for each outrigger float.
>Thanks Dana that sounds right although if you have a mono you might get a
>few more pounds for the main float. as far as in the rough
>landings, I would rather have those big collapsible gear under me.
As far as I can see, there is no mention of mono floats, just "30 lbs per
float". In the case of flying boats, it's still 30# (plus the 10 for each
outrigger).
I like the idea of the mono float for the US, to keep the spray off the
prop. One thought I had was two floats (so you get the 60#) very close
together, with a solid web between (almost like a tunnel hull racing
boat). You could still add outrigger floats if necessary.
I still think I'd rather go into, say, a plowed field with non amphibious
floats than straight wheels. There are quite a few videos on youtube of
seaplanes landing (and even taking off!) on wet grass.
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Hey, That's my "Quick" press...
I stopped over somebody's house on my way home with my gear leg...
I was going to use his "press".....He wasn't home.
So I Slapped this thing together....it Worked great...
and I haven't needed it again !
Gotta Fly...
Mike & "Jaz" in MN
PS It was a 12 ton jack
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Thanks guys!! That's the pic I remember.
Bryan Dever
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On Dec 26, 2007 10:07 PM, planecrazzzy <planecrazzzy@yahoo.com> wrote:
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> Hey, That's my "Quick" press...
>
> I stopped over somebody's house on my way home with my gear leg...
>
> I was going to use his "press".....He wasn't home.
>
> So I Slapped this thing together....it Worked great...
>
> and I haven't needed it again !
>
> Gotta Fly...
> Mike & "Jaz" in MN
>
> PS It was a 12 ton jack
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If I had two of those legs bent the same I would turn them upside
down (rotate 180)
and use them that way.
I bent one leg on my second flight when the poorly tuned carb starved
the engine
at 50' on short final and I had to dive it to save what I could.
Used my neighbor's press.
-Then I saw Harbor Freight had a sale on a hydraulic pipe bender and
bought one.
Haven't had to use it yet.
BB
On 26, Dec 2007, at 8:27 PM, henry.voris wrote:
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> Bryan,
>
> I can't remember who posted these... It was not me... but I had to
> straighten my gear too, so I picked up these photos from the list.
>
> Good Luck!
>
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> Firefly Five-Charlie-Bravo
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| Subject: | Re: How do you like your FireFly? |
ez(at)embarqmail.com wrote:
> Jim.
> for best results,
>
> If you are flying a Jet, take the advise of the JetPilot.
> If you are flying a glider, take the advise of the glider pilot.
> If you are flying a Kolb, take the advise of "The Kolb Pilot".
>
> The pitch trim effects of aileron/ flap adjustments on a slender high
> aspect glider wing do not have anywhere near the same effect as on a
> short low aspect Kolb wing.
>
> Try adjusting your ailerons. You'll be amazed at how easily a Kolb
> plane can be trimmed for pitch
I happen to fly both a Kolb and Jets, that "glider pilot" has been flying ultralights
for about 25 years and also flys a Kolb. Most importantly, your little
"Jingle" while cute, does not mean its correct or even good advice. I would
take the advice of the most qualified and knowledgeable person I could find.
The few lines you posted might do well in selling something to soccer moms and
the general population, but I sure as heck would not set up my plane based
on some funny little post.
Yes, aileron angle does affect pitch trim on a Kolb, but that does not mean that
it is a good way to set your pitch trim. I have seen posts about using ailerons
and flaps to adjust trim enough times that I experimented with this very
thing on my MK-III with very poor results, it affected the trim a lot, but also
raised my stall speed and made the plane fly poorly. I ended up setting aileron
and flaps back where Kolb says to put them, and fixed my pitch trim at the
elevator. Setting aileron and flap trim is the WRONG way to achieve proper
pitch trim, just because you can do it does not mean you should. When Jim
talks about 45 being very close to stall speed on a firefly, and less than spectacular
climbs with a 503, that tells me something is wrong with the way his
plane is set up.
Mike
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"NO FEAR" - If you have no fear you did not go as fast as you could
have !!!
Kolb MK-III Xtra, 912-S
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