---------------------------------------------------------- Kolb-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Thu 01/17/08: 18 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 04:57 AM - Re: Re: Who make a good Voltage Regulator/Rectifier? (Jack B. Hart) 2. 05:08 AM - Re: Re: Who make a good Voltage Regulator/Rectifier? (N27SB@aol.com) 3. 05:37 AM - Re: Re: Who make a good Voltage Regulator/Rectifier? (Robert Laird) 4. 07:06 AM - Re: Re: Who make a good Voltage Regulator/Rectifier? (Richard Girard) 5. 08:10 AM - Re: Who make a good Voltage Regulator/Rectifier? (boyd) 6. 10:50 AM - Re: iron for fabric repair (henry.voris) 7. 11:08 AM - Re: Streamlining struts (R. Hankins) 8. 11:21 AM - Re: Re: iron for fabric repair (Mike Welch) 9. 11:27 AM - Re: Re: Streamlining struts (Mike Welch) 10. 11:57 AM - Re: Streamlining struts (R. Hankins) 11. 11:58 AM - Re: Re: Streamlining struts (robert bean) 12. 01:06 PM - Re: Re: Streamlining struts (Richard Girard) 13. 02:05 PM - Re: Re: Streamlining struts (beauford T) 14. 03:29 PM - Re: Re: Streamlining struts (Mike Welch) 15. 04:44 PM - Re: Re: Streamlining struts (Richard Girard) 16. 04:50 PM - Two down, two to go (Richard Girard) 17. 06:10 PM - Re: Who make a good Voltage Regulator/Rectifier? (Larry Bourne) 18. 11:44 PM - Re: Who make a good Voltage Regulator/Rectifier? (R. Hankins) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 04:57:33 AM PST US From: "Jack B. Hart" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Who make a good Voltage Regulator/Rectifier? At 10:05 PM 1/16/08 -0800, you wrote: > > >Where does one find a 20,000 u.f. 25v.d.c. capacitor? I looked a bit on-line and and most capacitors aren't nearly that high a value. > Carlos, Check: http://www.newark.com/jsp/search/browse.jsp;jsessionid=KEGM5RFWMW3UMCXDUZ0G2WQ?N=1001309+184292+148380+182144&_requestid=4838 $9.31 plus shipping Jack B. Hart FF004 Winchester, IN ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 05:08:20 AM PST US From: N27SB@aol.com Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Who make a good Voltage Regulator/Rectifier? In a message dated 1/17/2008 7:58:30 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, jbhart@onlyinternet.net writes: Where does one find a 20,000 u.f. 25v.d.c. capacitor? I looked a bit on-line and and most capacitors aren't nearly that high a value Try _www.skycraftsurplus.com_ (http://www.skycraftsurplus.com) Steve B Firefly 007/Floats do not archive **************Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape. http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?NCID=aolcmp00300000002489 ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 05:37:21 AM PST US From: "Robert Laird" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Who make a good Voltage Regulator/Rectifier? Also.... mouser.com On 1/17/08, N27SB@aol.com wrote: > > > In a message dated 1/17/2008 7:58:30 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, > jbhart@onlyinternet.net writes: > Where does one find a 20,000 u.f. 25v.d.c. capacitor? I looked a bit on-line > and and most capacitors aren't nearly that high a value > Try www.skycraftsurplus.com > > > Steve B > Firefly 007/Floats > do not archive > > > ________________________________ > Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape in the new year. > > ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 07:06:04 AM PST US From: "Richard Girard" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Who make a good Voltage Regulator/Rectifier? Carlos, B & C Specialties of Newton, KS has them. You should also be able to get them from Digikey or Mouser. Here's B & C's web address: http://www.bandcspecialty.com/ Rick PS when wiring this in you don't run the wires from the regulator to the positive pole of the cap then out from the negative pole. Your output to the battery is from the positive pole. The negative pole is wired to ground. What this does is provide an electrical leak to ground that filters out the noise. On Jan 17, 2008 12:05 AM, The BaronVonEvil wrote: > > Hi Guys, > > Thanks for the input regarding my tale of woes. One would have thought > that Keywest would have put such a device into their little blue box. > > Where does one find a 20,000 u.f. 25v.d.c. capacitor? I looked a bit > on-line and and most capacitors aren't nearly that high a value. > > Mr Pike, I will definitely investigate the possibility that the noise is > coming from the ignition kill wires as I have not thought of that. > > I suspect I will have to rearrange things in the wiring department aboard > the plane. > > Oh well, its not like I had anything in particular to do during this > blasted cold winter. Any one have a cheap nuclear reactor to loan so I can > keep my hangar warm? > > Thanks again All, > > Carlos G. > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=158730#158730 > > ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 08:10:08 AM PST US From: "boyd" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Who make a good Voltage Regulator/Rectifier? One thing that is often overlooked are the wires to your kill switches. They are conducting AC from the engine to somewhere in your cockpit, in effect they are fairly long antennas radiating AC from your magneto to all over the place. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> My kill switch wires are pieces of coax grounded at the engine... this helps keep the noise in the hot wire shielded and out of the radio. For a test of removing the wires,,, and you still need a way to kill the engine without going through the prop..... try turning off the gas at the tank. The engine will kill when the float bowls empty. Boyd ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 10:50:05 AM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Re: iron for fabric repair From: "henry.voris" Mike or maybe Jaz... Thanks for the word on the "Black Baron" from ACS. I checked their catalog and it looks like the unit for me. Early next week I'll be on the mainland, so I'll drop by Harbor Freight and check out the IR senseing unit Jimmy recomended. Got the rest of the materails together... So I should be able to get to work on the tear when I return at the end of the month. Aloha -------- Henry Firefly Five-Charlie-Bravo Do Not Archive Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=158827#158827 ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 11:08:17 AM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Streamlining struts From: "R. Hankins" Rick, Do I have this correct? For a 1 inch tube: Circumference = 3.14" 6 * 3.14 = 18.8" wide I tried this with paper to see what it looks like and it just seems like a lot of material for a 1" tube. -------- Roger in Oregon 1992 KXP 503 - N1782C Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=158836#158836 ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 11:21:22 AM PST US From: Mike Welch Subject: RE: Kolb-List: Re: iron for fabric repair Henry, No need to wait on Harbor Freight for your digital thermometer. I just recently purchased this model on eBay and I am very satisfied with its performance and quality. Here's the link: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=190183316352 It works VERY well and appears to be a quality item!! I read the surface temp of the iron every 30-45 seconds....only takes a couple of seconds to read with the red laser dot, and is accurate to a 10th of a degree. eBay has dozens and dozens of models of digital thermometers. I can't see the need of a more expensive one than the one I got. Mike Welch Kolb MkIII. PolyFiber finished on fuselage and tailfeathers. Yay!! Wings are next. And whoever said "putting PolyFiber on is easy" is nuts!! It's a Major job! But, I'm not complaining! You can't complain when you are working on your airplane!! > Subject: Kolb-List: Re: iron for fabric repair > From: henry_voris@yahoo.com > Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2008 10:47:31 -0800 > To: kolb-list@matronics.com > > > Mike or maybe Jaz... > > Thanks for the word on the "Black Baron" from ACS. I checked their catalog and it looks like the unit for me. > > Early next week I'll be on the mainland, so I'll drop by Harbor Freight and check out the IR senseing unit Jimmy recomended. > > Got the rest of the materails together... So I should be able to get to work on the tear when I return at the end of the month. > > Aloha > > -------- > Henry > Firefly Five-Charlie-Bravo > > Do Not Archive > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=158827#158827 > > _________________________________________________________________ Connect and share in new ways with Windows Live. http://www.windowslive.com/share.html?ocid=TXT_TAGHM_Wave2_sharelife_012008 ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 11:27:26 AM PST US From: Mike Welch Subject: RE: Kolb-List: Re: Streamlining struts Roger, I don't mean to interupt your conversation with Rick, but the formula for circumference is; 3.14 X Diameter (usually referred to as: pi*D) If you are talking about a 1" tube, then the circumference is 3.14 X 1" = 3.14". Mike Welch > Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Streamlining struts > From: rphanks@grantspass.com > Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2008 11:06:00 -0800 > To: kolb-list@matronics.com > > > Rick, > Do I have this correct? For a 1 inch tube: > Circumference = 3.14" > 6 * 3.14 = 18.8" wide > > I tried this with paper to see what it looks like and it just seems like a lot of material for a 1" tube. > > -------- > Roger in Oregon > 1992 KXP 503 - N1782C > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=158836#158836 > > _________________________________________________________________ Shed those extra pounds with MSN and The Biggest Loser!! http://biggestloser.msn.com/ ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 11:57:38 AM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Streamlining struts From: "R. Hankins" Mike: The original formula given by Rick was: Circumference * 6 Which for a 1" tube becomes 3.14 x 6. Which equals 18.8" Which seems like a lot of material for a one inch tube when you try it. do not archive -------- Roger in Oregon 1992 KXP 503 - N1782C Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=158841#158841 ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 11:58:03 AM PST US From: robert bean Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Streamlining struts pi are not square... pi are round BB do not archive On 17, Jan 2008, at 2:24 PM, Mike Welch wrote: > > > Roger, > > I don't mean to interupt your conversation with Rick, but the > formula for circumference is; > > 3.14 X Diameter (usually referred to as: pi*D) If you are talking > about a 1" tube, then the circumference is 3.14 X 1" = 3.14". > > Mike Welch > > >> Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Streamlining struts >> From: rphanks@grantspass.com >> Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2008 11:06:00 -0800 >> To: kolb-list@matronics.com >> >> >> Rick, >> Do I have this correct? For a 1 inch tube: >> Circumference = 3.14" >> 6 * 3.14 = 18.8" wide >> >> I tried this with paper to see what it looks like and it just >> seems like a lot of material for a 1" tube. >> >> -------- >> Roger in Oregon >> 1992 KXP 503 - N1782C >> >> >> >> >> Read this topic online here: >> >> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=158836#158836 >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > _________________________________________________________________ > Shed those extra pounds with MSN and The Biggest Loser!! > http://biggestloser.msn.com/ > > ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 01:06:06 PM PST US From: "Richard Girard" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Streamlining struts Roger, mike, et al. Got my wording wrong, sorry. Should be 6 times as wide as diameter, not circumference. Hoerner in "Fluid Dynamic Drag" found that the ideal shape for streamlining a body was an ellipse 3 times as long as it was in diameter. If you figure 1/2" for the seam, then add 1" to the total width. So for a 1 1/2" diameter strut, you'd need a piece of mylar 10" wide. Rick On Jan 17, 2008 1:55 PM, R. Hankins wrote: > > Mike: > The original formula given by Rick was: > Circumference * 6 > Which for a 1" tube becomes 3.14 x 6. > Which equals 18.8" > Which seems like a lot of material for a one inch tube when you try it. > > do not archive > > -------- > Roger in Oregon > 1992 KXP 503 - N1782C > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=158841#158841 > > ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 02:05:39 PM PST US From: "beauford T" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Streamlining struts ...yeah...and DEEP, too.... beauford do not archive ----- Original Message ----- pi are not square... pi are round BB do not archive On 17, Jan 2008, at 2:24 PM, Mike Welch wrote: > --> >> Roger in Oregon >> 1992 KXP 503 - N1782C >> ________________________________ Message 14 ____________________________________ Time: 03:29:31 PM PST US From: Mike Welch Subject: RE: Kolb-List: Re: Streamlining struts Rick, et al?? et al!!!? We're just simple folks here. Just say "You'ze guys!!" Chuckling... Mike Welch Do not archive ________________________________ From: jindoguy@gmail.com Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Streamlining struts Roger, mike, et al. Got my wording wrong, sorry. Should be 6 times as wide as diameter, not circumference. Hoerner in "Fluid Dynamic Drag" found that the ideal shape for streamlining a body was an ellipse 3 times as long as it was in diameter. If you figure 1/2" for the seam, then add 1" to the total width. So for a 1 1/2" diameter strut, you'd need a piece of mylar 10" wide. Rick On Jan 17, 2008 1:55 PM, R. Hankins > wrote: Mike: The original formula given by Rick was: Circumference * 6 Which for a 1" tube becomes 3.14 x 6. Which equals 18.8" Which seems like a lot of material for a one inch tube when you try it. do not archive -------- Roger in Oregon 1992 KXP 503 - N1782C Read this topic online here: _________________________________________________________________ Helping your favorite cause is as easy as instant messaging. You IM, we give. ________________________________ Message 15 ____________________________________ Time: 04:44:36 PM PST US From: "Richard Girard" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Streamlining struts Mike, Just trying to be polite. My Grandma, God rest her soul, always told me it doesn't cost a thing to be polite. But it's You'ze guys from now on. :-) Rick On Jan 17, 2008 5:26 PM, Mike Welch wrote: > > > Rick, > > et al?? et al!!!? We're just simple folks here. Just say "You'ze > guys!!" > > Chuckling... Mike Welch > > > Do not archive > > > ________________________________ > > Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2008 15:00:57 -0600 > From: jindoguy@gmail.com > To: kolb-list@matronics.com > Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Streamlining struts > > Roger, mike, et al. Got my wording wrong, sorry. Should be 6 times as wide > as diameter, not circumference. Hoerner in "Fluid Dynamic Drag" found that > the ideal shape for streamlining a body was an ellipse 3 times as long as it > was in diameter. If you figure 1/2" for the seam, then add 1" to the total > width. > So for a 1 1/2" diameter strut, you'd need a piece of mylar 10" wide. > > Rick > > > On Jan 17, 2008 1:55 PM, R. Hankins > wrote: > > > Mike: > The original formula given by Rick was: > Circumference * 6 > Which for a 1" tube becomes 3.14 x 6. > Which equals 18.8" > Which seems like a lot of material for a one inch tube when you try it. > > do not archive > > > -------- > Roger in Oregon > 1992 KXP 503 - N1782C > > > Read this topic online here: > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Helping your favorite cause is as easy as instant messaging. You IM, we > give. > > ________________________________ Message 16 ____________________________________ Time: 04:50:15 PM PST US From: "Richard Girard" Subject: Kolb-List: Two down, two to go You'ze Guys, It pays to be near the Air Capitol. I called the local FSDO and gave the inspector a sob story about needing an inspection and not being able to move the aircraft because of the wind storms we've been having. That was a week ago Tuesday. Monday he came out and 614AG and 169RG are now legal E-LSA's. I will have to transport the Mk.3 and the Firestar, but they're robust enough to handle the trip. With a little luck, I'll take the Mk.3tomorrow. It'll be cold, but the winds will be less than gale force for a change. Yippeee!!! Rick ________________________________ Message 17 ____________________________________ Time: 06:10:25 PM PST US From: Larry Bourne Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Who make a good Voltage Regulator/Rectifier? Larry, try Mouser Electronics. Lar. Larry Cottrell wrote: > > > ----- Original Message ----- > *From:* Richard Girard > *To:* kolb-list@matronics.com > *Sent:* Wednesday, January 16, 2008 8:33 PM > *Subject:* Re: Kolb-List: Who make a good Voltage Regulator/Rectifier? > > Carlos, Shot the capacitor value off from memory. Should have said > a 20,000uf 25Volt cap. Sorry. > > Rick > > I don't suppose that you would have a good idea of where to get > one of these critters would you? > Larry C > > * > > > * -- Larry Bourne Santa Fe, NM Building Kolb Mk III "Vamoose" www.gogittum.com www.gogittum.com/blog ________________________________ Message 18 ____________________________________ Time: 11:44:25 PM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Who make a good Voltage Regulator/Rectifier? From: "R. Hankins" Carlos, Check your plug caps. If they have any wiggle at all they are making some noise. I changed mine out last year and noticed a dramatic drop in ignition noise. If you decide to do it, don't by the $18 Rotax plug caps. You can get the proper NGK LB05EZ caps from Sparkplugs.com for about 2.50 ea. They are black not red, but otherwise identical to the Rotax OEM caps. -------- Roger in Oregon 1992 KXP 503 - N1782C Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=158971#158971 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message kolb-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/Kolb-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/kolb-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/kolb-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.