---------------------------------------------------------- Kolb-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Sun 02/03/08: 13 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 02:45 AM - Re: Winter flight/ streamlined struts (planecrazzzy) 2. 05:11 AM - Re: Firestar Project (ElleryWeld@aol.com) 3. 07:11 AM - Re: Firestar Project (Richard Girard) 4. 07:13 AM - Re: Firestar Project (Richard Girard) 5. 07:19 AM - Re: Re: Winter flight/ streamlined struts (Nelson, Craig) 6. 08:35 AM - Firestar Project (william sullivan) 7. 11:45 AM - Re: Winter flight/ streamlined struts (possums) 8. 07:31 PM - Kolb-List Rotax E Box (BMWBikeCrz@aol.com) 9. 07:40 PM - New use for ladders. You got to see this! (grantr) 10. 07:53 PM - Re: New use for ladders. You got to see this! (grantr) 11. 08:10 PM - Re: Now I know what I want for Christmas. (olendorf) 12. 08:16 PM - login .... (artdog1512) 13. 09:44 PM - Re: login .... (The BaronVonEvil) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 02:45:33 AM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Winter flight/ streamlined struts From: "planecrazzzy" Did the "Dog Sled" ever get into the air ??? .. .. Gotta Fly... Mike & "Jaz" in MN .. .. .. -------- .. .. .. .. .. Do Not Archive Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=162145#162145 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/fish_scales__lift_struts_012_606.jpg ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 05:11:02 AM PST US From: ElleryWeld@aol.com Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Firestar Project if you Have aerothane Paint and your sure you can take a sharp scribe and cut the paint only on the fabric get under the edge of it and peel it off Trim the hole up good and even make a patch two inches outside the hole edge all the way around if you have a Poly Fiber manual it explains it all there . as far as how to paint without spraying, I hope someone else on the list can help you area to make it look good with another method of painting without spraying it. Ellery in Maine do not archive In a message dated 2/2/2008 9:19:49 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, williamtsullivan@att.net writes: Open question for everyone. I have to repair about five small holes in the ailerons. I brought the wing into the living room. I ran Ellery's test of using MEK to double check the finish. Mek would not dissolve the paint, but did dissolve the vinyl glove I was wearing. The paint is Aerothane. I have the book and kit from the Millers, but I would appreciate any and all tips on repairs. I have to use a brush for all stages, as I have nowhere safe to spray isocyanates. The neighborhood is too close to risk airbornes. I am now going down to the drug store for latex gloves. The guy at the hardware store thought his were latex, but they weren't marked. Luckily I only got a couple of pairs. I hope I got the right color- Madrid Red. I don't care what kind of light I used before ordering, there were four really close reds. Bill (http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kolb-List) (http://www.matronics.com/contribution) **************Biggest Grammy Award surprises of all time on AOL Music. (http://music.aol.com/grammys/pictures/never-won-a-grammy?NCID=aolcmp003000000025 48) ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 07:11:36 AM PST US From: "Richard Girard" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Firestar Project Bill, for refinishing, if you're in a relatively warm area, so the paint will flow before it sets, use a foam roller to apply enough coats to satisfy your eye that it has completely covered the primer. Let it dry and use wet or dry sandpaper to remove any stippling and polish with compound to match the local area. Rick On Feb 2, 2008 9:56 PM, william sullivan wrote: > To answer Richard Girard's question about the hole margins on my forward > wing attachment point- the front attachment point appears to be a fabricated > piece of junior "I" beam, just under 3" high. The 3 holes are no closer than > 1/4" to the edge, and spaced about 1/2" apart. The web is about 5/32" thick, > as are the upper and lower flanges. The flanges are about > 1 1/8" wide. This appears to be plenty of stock for the purpose. I don't > know why- maybe the builder had trouble setting the wing angle, or simply > wanted them adjustable. I can't tell by looking at or in the holes which one > was commonly used. I don't think that it would make a lot of difference, as > long as both sides are set the same. > Bill > > * > > * > > ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 07:13:20 AM PST US From: "Richard Girard" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Firestar Project Bill, should have added it's the little 3" foam roller you want. They can be found at any box store and have a nice radius on the edge so the paint feathers out. Also a warning, if you use Smooth Prime be sure to use adequate protection for skin and respiratory contact unless you are absolutely sure you aren't sensitive to the cross linker. My friend Wayne has gotten so sensitive to it he had to farm out the priming of his LongEZ and even then broke out in blisters whenever he came in contact with any that wasn't completely cured. It could be dry to the touch yet still outgassing and he would get a reaction. Rick On Feb 3, 2008 8:57 AM, Richard Girard wrote: > Bill, for refinishing, if you're in a relatively warm area, so the paint > will flow before it sets, use a foam roller to apply enough coats to satisfy > your eye that it has completely covered the primer. Let it dry and use wet > or dry sandpaper to remove any stippling and polish with compound to match > the local area. > > Rick > > > On Feb 2, 2008 9:56 PM, william sullivan wrote: > > > To answer Richard Girard's question about the hole margins on my > > forward wing attachment point- the front attachment point appears to be a > > fabricated piece of junior "I" beam, just under 3" high. The 3 holes are no > > closer than 1/4" to the edge, and spaced about 1/2" apart. The web is about > > 5/32" thick, as are the upper and lower flanges. The flanges are about > > 1 1/8" wide. This appears to be plenty of stock for the purpose. I don't > > know why- maybe the builder had trouble setting the wing angle, or simply > > wanted them adjustable. I can't tell by looking at or in the holes which one > > was commonly used. I don't think that it would make a lot of difference, as > > long as both sides are set the same. > > Bill > > > > * > > > > * > > > > > ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 07:19:31 AM PST US Subject: RE: Kolb-List: Re: Winter flight/ streamlined struts From: "Nelson, Craig" Thanks for asking yes! We plan to run the Iditarod this year! Have had to keep the dogs in the deep freeze he! He! He! If there is enough demand I would consider making molds and offering them to any one interested. Again right now my trailer is my hanger and the plane is folded and put in the trailer every time I fly.( I hate it but It's a kolb and it is possible) The strut faring goes on real simply. Just put it on the strut slide it down, put the wing together secure the pin. Slide the faring up to the wing to cover the bolts streamlining the end of the strut and Velcro on the underside of the wing and the top of the faring hold it in place. Takes all of 2 seconds to put on. To tie the plane down simply pull the faring down from the wing to expose the mounting point for tie down rope or chain Uncle craig Do not Archive -----Original Message----- From: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of planecrazzzy Sent: Sunday, February 03, 2008 3:43 AM Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Winter flight/ streamlined struts Did the "Dog Sled" ever get into the air ??? .. .. Gotta Fly... Mike & "Jaz" in MN .. .. .. -------- .. .. .. .. .. Do Not Archive Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=162145#162145 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/fish_scales__lift_struts_012_606.jpg ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 08:35:39 AM PST US From: william sullivan Subject: Kolb-List: Firestar Project I cleaned up the first hole. Only trouble was I didn't use a sharp enough scribe- I was afraid to damage the fabric. Now that I know, it will go easier. Foam roller is a good tip- I think I have one. I just started getting the live version of the List. Got tired of waiting. Bill ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 11:45:04 AM PST US From: possums Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Winter flight/ streamlined struts At 12:45 AM 2/3/2008, you wrote: How did streamlining the struts get rid of the vibration - did you use the extruded aluminum struts? No - I just had some metal (T6061 I think) bent for me at a shop with an 8 foot brake. Had them cut it to shape, then roll both edges a little to partially go around the strut. After that - bend it in the break. I riveted it on the struts and with the rolled edges, it fits pretty tight. Been on there for 10 years. It stopped all the vibration and hardly weighs anything. But there are all kinds of ways to do it. Many are more aerodynamic than mine, but most weigh a lot more. I would think that they all would stop the vibration. ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 07:31:31 PM PST US From: BMWBikeCrz@aol.com Subject: Kolb-List: Kolb-List Rotax E Box What motors will an E Box fit provision 8 only or will it fit a provision 4 .... Thanks ! Dave ************** Biggest Grammy Award surprises of all time on AOL Music. (http://music.aol.com/grammys/pictures/never-won-a-grammy?NCID=aolcmp00300000002548) ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 07:40:45 PM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: New use for ladders. You got to see this! From: "grantr" http://www.pouduciel.com/ http://pouchel.aliceblogs.fr/blog/constructeurspouchel (http://www.putfile.com/pic.php?img=7608061) (http://www.putfile.com/pic.php?img=7608054) (http://www.putfile.com/pic.php?img=7608062) (http://www.putfile.com/pic.php?img=7608058) (http://www.putfile.com/pic.php?img=7608057) Wish I could read it! I think it french. This is just amazing! Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=162261#162261 ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 07:53:45 PM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Re: New use for ladders. You got to see this! From: "grantr" and a video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZsFKowEzSiw Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=162263#162263 ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 08:10:01 PM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Now I know what I want for Christmas. From: "olendorf" All of that modern tech and look what they still use. A glass tube bank indicator. Gotta love it. -------- Scott Olendorf Original Firestar, Rotax 447, Powerfin prop Schenectady, NY http://KolbFirestar.googlepages.com Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=162265#162265 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/glass_cockpit_309.bmp ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 08:16:28 PM PST US From: artdog1512 Subject: Kolb-List: login .... at the Kolb website on the homepage there's a spot where you can login and i "assume" chat with whoever is online. i also assume you need to be registered to be able to login. my question is - how do i get registered? how do i get a password? ........... tim Looking for last minute shopping deals? ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 09:44:46 PM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Re: login .... From: "The BaronVonEvil" Hi Tim This is not really a chat room but a forum for posting ideas and questions about Kolbs. To join you just go to the login feature at the top of the Matronics page and sign up. You enter your own password. Once you log in you can post messages onto the Forums. When you first log in you will see all the forums for the different Aircraft, and Cars too. Then you just select the one you want to enter and go... 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