---------------------------------------------------------- Kolb-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Thu 02/07/08: 12 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 08:15 AM - my old muffler (Ralph B) 2. 09:12 AM - Re: my old muffler (Ben Ransom) 3. 09:43 AM - Re: my old muffler (Ralph B) 4. 10:37 AM - Float & fuel tank info. (Jim Pook (Infosat)) 5. 11:15 AM - Re: Re: my old muffler (boyd) 6. 11:15 AM - Re: my old muffler (ElleryWeld@aol.com) 7. 11:42 AM - Re: my old muffler (Ralph B) 8. 11:46 AM - Sunday, in VA or NC (Robert Laird) 9. 03:49 PM - Re: Sunday, in VA or NC (Larry Bourne) 10. 08:36 PM - Re: my old muffler (olendorf) 11. 09:42 PM - login ... (tim hrib) 12. 09:55 PM - Re: Re: my old muffler (robert bean) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 08:15:50 AM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: my old muffler From: "Ralph B" After 21 years of flying, I'm going to finally have to replace the single jointed muffler on the engine. It's been welded twice before and now it's cracked again. I have a new double-jointed muffler and never put it on for two reasons. One, it has two EGT sender ports and I don't want to add another EGT gauge on my panel. Second, the muffler end goes straight out instead of the exhaust pointing up like this one does. I'm afraid the exhaust gases going out could weaken the fiberglass Ivo prop, over time, as the prop is only a few inches from the end of the muffler exhaust (I don't have a prop extension). What I can do, is get the curved part cut out of the old muffler and welded on to the new one. That takes care of that problem (or I could get a prop extension). I thought about tying the EGT senders together. Has anyone else done this? I don't see any problem with this. If one sends out more voltage than the other, it would respond on the single EGT instrument I have, thereby indicting a high EGT if either of the cylinders are too hot. -------- Ralph B Original Firestar N91493 E-AB 21 years flying it Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=162832#162832 ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 09:12:18 AM PST US From: Ben Ransom Subject: Re: Kolb-List: my old muffler Hi Ralph, I had the same issue on EGT -- originally one probe at the Y and one gauge. Later determined I much preferred knowing EGT separately, so put in a second probe. My solution to leaving it one gauge was to add a small switch. I mounted it just under the throttle. Fwd is the fwd EGT probe, middle is a neither, Rear is the rear EGT probe. I made myself the habit of leaving that switch in the rear position, other than when checking front EGT, to avoid inadvertently switching my ignition switch from fwd to rear (OFF) instead. My ignition sw is bigger and mounted a foot in front, but brain farts happen. Overall the solution has worked well, although that is also with the recognition that a digital EIS with alarm thresholds woulda been best. -Ben Ralph B wrote: > > After 21 years of flying, I'm going to finally have to replace the single jointed muffler on the engine. It's been welded twice before and now it's cracked again. I have a new double-jointed muffler and never put it on for two reasons. One, it has two EGT sender ports and I don't want to add another EGT gauge on my panel. Second, the muffler end goes straight out instead of the exhaust pointing up like this one does. I'm afraid the exhaust gases going out could weaken the fiberglass Ivo prop, over time, as the prop is only a few inches from the end of the muffler exhaust (I don't have a prop extension). What I can do, is get the curved part cut out of the old muffler and welded on to the new one. That takes care of that problem (or I could get a prop extension). > > I thought about tying the EGT senders together. Has anyone else done this? I don't see any problem with this. If one sends out more voltage than the other, it would respond on the single EGT instrument I have, thereby indicting a high EGT if either of the cylinders are too hot. > > -------- > Ralph B > Original Firestar > N91493 E-AB > 21 years flying it > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=162832#162832 > > > ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 09:43:38 AM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Re: my old muffler From: "Ralph B" I thought about a switch too, but if the engine gets hot, it will do it when the switch isn't switched. I'm going to try and "Y" the two senders together and use a cig lighter to see what happens. This seems the easiest way to do this without adding another gauge. -------- Ralph B Original Firestar N91493 E-AB 21 years flying it Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=162840#162840 ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 10:37:22 AM PST US From: "Jim Pook (Infosat)" Subject: Kolb-List: Float & fuel tank info. I am seeking any information you folks may have for MKIII's on floats, particularly mono floats. Several years ago there was an outdoor (nature show) which included a white Kolb MKIII with a mono float arrangement. I think it may have been about Kodiak Bears in USSR?? I have an original MKIII Sn#035 and live in Yellowknife NT Canada. I purchased it in the spring of 1991 from Holmer. All the metal work is done and covering completed on the small parts but I have yet to cover the wings or cage. It was inspected by our MOT in 1994 and the next inspection due is pre-flight (my intensions are to register it as a Canadian "Homebuilt"). I bought it as a single guy, have since got married, had kids, ect. I'm back "into it" again and hope to make all the parts become one soon! Lately I have purchased an (unused) original 912 UL and plan to use it. I am aware of the issues of the particular engine, however, I would like to know what is done to increase the fuel capacity? I am toying with the idea of a wing tank. Between drag strut and main spar of the innermost 2 ribs would provide 20 gallons or so. Wing folding will seldom if ever be required. Has anyone ever done this? Regards, Jim Pook ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 11:15:18 AM PST US From: "boyd" Subject: RE: Kolb-List: Re: my old muffler I thought about a switch too, but if the engine gets hot, it will do it when the switch isn't switched. I'm going to try and "Y" the two senders together and use a cig lighter to see what happens. This seems the easiest way to do this without adding another gauge. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Put in a small timer with a double pole, double throw relay,,, and have it go from one to the other every 10 sec or so. You could have it light a led to indicate front or back reading. Boyd ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 11:15:57 AM PST US From: ElleryWeld@aol.com Subject: Re: Kolb-List: my old muffler You could buy a double in one gauge for you EGT that way you wont have to cut another hole in your panel Just a thought Ellery in Maine do not archive In a message dated 2/7/2008 11:16:35 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, ul15rhb@juno.com writes: --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Ralph B" After 21 years of flying, I'm going to finally have to replace the single jointed muffler on the engine. It's been welded twice before and now it's cracked again. I have a new double-jointed muffler and never put it on for two reasons. One, it has two EGT sender ports and I don't want to add another EGT gauge on my panel. Second, the muffler end goes straight out instead of the exhaust pointing up like this one does. I'm afraid the exhaust gases going out could weaken the fiberglass Ivo prop, over time, as the prop is only a few inches from the end of the muffler exhaust (I don't have a prop extension). What I can do, is get the curved part cut out of the old muffler and welded on to the new one. That takes care of that problem (or I could get a prop extension). I thought about tying the EGT senders together. Has anyone else done this? I don't see any problem with this. If one sends out more voltage than the other, it would respond on the single EGT instrument I have, thereby indicting a high EGT if either of the cylinders are too hot. -------- Ralph B Original Firestar N91493 E-AB 21 years flying it Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=162832#162832 **************Biggest Grammy Award surprises of all time on AOL Music. (http://music.aol.com/grammys/pictures/never-won-a-grammy?NCID=aolcmp003000000025 48) ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 11:42:59 AM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Re: my old muffler From: "Ralph B" ElleryWeld(at)aol.com wrote: > You could buy a double in one gauge for you EGT that way you wont have to cut another hole in your panel Just a thought I thought about that too, but I have a dual tach and EGT. If I get a dual EGT, I will have to make a hole for another tach. -------- Ralph B Original Firestar N91493 E-AB 21 years flying it Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=162858#162858 ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 11:46:38 AM PST US From: "Robert Laird" Subject: Kolb-List: Sunday, in VA or NC I'm going to be in the Richmond/Virginia Beach, Virginia area on business this weekend, and I have Sunday free... are there any Kolb drivers out there that would let me ride right-seat/rear-seat on local flight? If no takers, then I'll do the tourist thing and head down to Kitty Hawk and the Wright Museum. -- Robert, Texas Kolb driver ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 03:49:47 PM PST US From: Larry Bourne Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Sunday, in VA or NC If no takers, that's a great destination. I felt awe, looking from the memorial out over the area they flew. Check my website. Lar. Do not Archive. Robert Laird wrote: > > I'm going to be in the Richmond/Virginia Beach, Virginia area on > business this weekend, and I have Sunday free... are there any Kolb > drivers out there that would let me ride right-seat/rear-seat on local > flight? If no takers, then I'll do the tourist thing and head down to > Kitty Hawk and the Wright Museum. > > -- Robert, Texas Kolb driver > > > -- Larry Bourne Santa Fe, NM Building Kolb Mk III "Vamoose" www.gogittum.com www.gogittum.com/blog ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 08:36:09 PM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Re: my old muffler From: "olendorf" Wouldn't connecting the two wires together show the average of the temps, not the maximum of either? I don't think that will work. Just use the one egt hole and plug the other one. -------- Scott Olendorf Original Firestar, Rotax 447, Powerfin prop Schenectady, NY http://KolbFirestar.googlepages.com Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=162936#162936 ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 09:42:18 PM PST US From: tim hrib Subject: Kolb-List: login ... i want to be able to login to the Kolb website. obviously it require s a login id and a password. my question is - how do you get a password? .. ..... tim _________________________________________________________________ Climb to the top of the charts!-Play the word scramble challenge with sta r power. http://club.live.com/star_shuffle.aspx?icid=starshuffle_wlmailtextlink_ja n ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 09:55:16 PM PST US From: robert bean Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: my old muffler If they are in parallel they should show an average. BB On 7, Feb 2008, at 11:33 PM, olendorf wrote: > > Wouldn't connecting the two wires together show the average of the > temps, not the maximum of either? > > I don't think that will work. Just use the one egt hole and plug > the other one. > > -------- > Scott Olendorf > Original Firestar, Rotax 447, Powerfin prop > Schenectady, NY > http://KolbFirestar.googlepages.com > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=162936#162936 > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message kolb-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/Kolb-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/kolb-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/kolb-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.