---------------------------------------------------------- Kolb-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Fri 02/15/08: 21 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 04:38 AM - Firestar project (william sullivan) 2. 08:01 AM - Re: Float & fuel tank info. (KOLB AIRCRAFT) 3. 08:15 AM - Re: draft (boyd) 4. 08:24 AM - Re: Firestar project (N27SB@aol.com) 5. 12:56 PM - Test email (gliderx5@comcast.net) 6. 01:24 PM - Re: Test email (Russ Kinne) 7. 01:44 PM - Re: Test email (Mike Welch) 8. 01:59 PM - Re: Test email (Bob Noyer) 9. 02:13 PM - Re: Test email (gliderx5@comcast.net) 10. 02:36 PM - Winter Sucks !!! (jim) 11. 02:46 PM - Re: Test email (Bob Noyer) 12. 03:01 PM - Re: Test email (Russ Kinne) 13. 03:06 PM - Welcome (John Hauck) 14. 03:08 PM - Re: Test email (russ kinne) 15. 03:09 PM - "MY" 503 muffler mount (planecrazzzy) 16. 03:19 PM - Re: Winter Sucks !!! (planecrazzzy) 17. 03:21 PM - Re: Winter Sucks !!! (jim) 18. 03:35 PM - Re: Re: Winter Sucks !!! (N27SB@aol.com) 19. 04:30 PM - Re: Winter Sucks !!! (jb92563) 20. 05:03 PM - Re: Winter Sucks !!! (henry.voris) 21. 09:05 PM - Re: "MY" 503 muffler mount (DAquaNut@aol.com) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 04:38:13 AM PST US From: william sullivan Subject: Kolb-List: Firestar project Progress on the old Firestar- The patching of hole in the ailerons is coming along nicely. I am letting everything gas off for a few days before putting the Aerothane on the first wing. I do have a tip on sanding. I had a couple of lumps where coats of product had sagged after being brushed on, and were difficult to sand. I used a sheet rock sponge from Home Depot- I think it was coarse on one side, and medium on the other. It was stiff enough to use just the edge and corner to remove just the lumps. Came out pretty good for a first time. My trouble is that I can't work level- the wing is on it's leading edge against the living room wall. Color coat goes on Saturday. Disregard all my previous comments on weight. I found a piece of paper from where I weighed the plane without wings, and compared it to the weight with them. The left wheel only gained 3 pounds after the wing was put on, and the right gained 66 pounds. The tail gained 16. I guess the back yard is not as level as it looked. When the snow goes away, I will do it again by weighing on a leveled board. The wife is going to get a new bathroom scale for her birthday. Can anyone give me any info on the Kolb KXP? That is what the wings are off of, and they are easily adaptable to my airframe. I tried the web, and came up dry. Kolb told me that the easy way was to mount them 2 1/2" rearward, and tweak the hardware. Weight and balance would not be critical. What did the KXP weigh? Bill Sullivan Old Firestar ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 08:01:36 AM PST US From: "KOLB AIRCRAFT" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Float & fuel tank info. MessageJIM, THE PUDDLE JUMPER FLOATS ARE THE FLOATS WE ARE NOW TESTING FOR MARK 3,S THE CO IS LOCATED IN CANADA, AS SOON AS WE GET THIS DONE AND READY FOR SALE AS A BOLT ON KIT, IT WILL BE ON THIS WEB SITE, THANKS MUCH , LET US KNOW HOW WE CAN HELP IN YOUR PURCHASE, DONNIE. ----- Original Message ----- From: Jim Pook (Infosat) To: kolb-list@matronics.com Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 1:30 PM Subject: Kolb-List: Float & fuel tank info. I am seeking any information you folks may have for MKIII's on floats, particularly mono floats. Several years ago there was an outdoor (nature show) which included a white Kolb MKIII with a mono float arrangement. I think it may have been about Kodiak Bears in USSR?? I have an original MKIII Sn#035 and live in Yellowknife NT Canada. I purchased it in the spring of 1991 from Holmer. All the metal work is done and covering completed on the small parts but I have yet to cover the wings or cage. It was inspected by our MOT in 1994 and the next inspection due is pre-flight (my intensions are to register it as a Canadian "Homebuilt"). I bought it as a single guy, have since got married, had kids, ect. I'm back "into it" again and hope to make all the parts become one soon! Lately I have purchased an (unused) original 912 UL and plan to use it. I am aware of the issues of the particular engine, however, I would like to know what is done to increase the fuel capacity? I am toying with the idea of a wing tank. Between drag strut and main spar of the innermost 2 ribs would provide 20 gallons or so. Wing folding will seldom if ever be required. Has anyone ever done this? Regards, Jim Pook ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 08:15:19 AM PST US From: "boyd" Subject: RE: Kolb-List: draft On my Mark III, the draft comes from the tube air coming forward to fill the vacuum caused by the nose cone. I just wear a hood. On my mkIII I found some 1 inch foam rubber... cut it to fit the area behind the seats,,, then used some contact cement and glued on some fabric to match the color of the paint.... 1 it stops the wind 2 it stops a lot of the noise 3 it looks good 4 it keeps things from view if I have anything stored back there. 5 it is removable in a few seconds if needed. 6 it weighs very little compared to the benefits. ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 08:24:17 AM PST US From: N27SB@aol.com Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Firestar project Bill, I am going to go out on a limb here but I think you deserve it. You need to go find a Firefly or do everything you can to make yours like a Firefly. The problem with trying to modify what you have to comply with part 103 weight is that you are starting with components that are too heavy. From what I know , even the cage is too heavy to start with. Your other option is to build the plane the way you want and plan to register it EAB. But from what I remember of this topic that option may be gone. I think that this topic got sidelined by a long discussion of how You may or may not need to be Legal and lost sight of the real issue. I called TNK this morning and checked the weight of a bare Firefly cage. 28 lbs If your cage is much more than that you will have a difficult time meeting 103 parameters. If anyone wants to renew the old "You do not need to be legal thing" I would suggest they start a new topic and not distract from what Bill is trying to accomplish. Good luck with your project Bill and let us know how you make out. There are several other guys out there in your shoes. Steve Firefly 007 In a message dated 2/15/2008 7:39:00 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, williamtsullivan@att.net writes: Can anyone give me any info on the Kolb KXP? That is what the wings are off of, and they are easily adaptable to my airframe. I tried the web, and came up dry. Kolb told me that the easy way was to mount them 2 1/2" rearward, and tweak the hardware. Weight and balance would not be critical. What did the KXP weigh? Bill Sullivan Old Firestar **************The year's hottest artists on the red carpet at the Grammy Awards. Go to AOL Music. (http://music.aol.com/grammys?NCID=aolcmp00300000002565) ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 12:56:04 PM PST US From: gliderx5@comcast.net Subject: Kolb-List: Test email Sorry guys This is a test message. I have been unable to post to this news group (unless this works!) -- Malcolm Morrison Schleicher ASW-15 Pietenpol Air Camper Kolb MKII ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 01:24:36 PM PST US From: Russ Kinne Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Test email Malcolm I got it! -- but are you getting a Kolb? On Feb 15, 2008, at 3:53 PM, gliderx5@comcast.net wrote: > > Sorry guys > This is a test message. > I have been unable to post to this news group (unless this works!) > > -- > Malcolm Morrison > Schleicher ASW-15 > Pietenpol Air Camper > Kolb MKII > > ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 01:44:37 PM PST US From: Mike Welch Subject: RE: Kolb-List: Test email Russ, I got the impression he already had a Kolb...by listing it at the bottom. However, if that was his WISH list, where can I get one???!! he he Mike Welch Do Not Archive > From: russ@rkiphoto.com > Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Test email > Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2008 16:21:47 -0500 > To: kolb-list@matronics.com > > > Malcolm > I got it! -- but are you getting a Kolb? > > > On Feb 15, 2008, at 3:53 PM, gliderx5@comcast.net wrote: > >> >> Sorry guys >> This is a test message. >> I have been unable to post to this news group (unless this works!) >> >> -- >> Malcolm Morrison >> Schleicher ASW-15 >> Pietenpol Air Camper >> Kolb MKII >> >> >> >> > > _________________________________________________________________ Shed those extra pounds with MSN and The Biggest Loser! http://biggestloser.msn.com/ ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 01:59:19 PM PST US From: Bob Noyer Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Test email works here! regards, Bob N. FireFly 070 Old Kolb http://www.angelfire.com/rpg/ronoy/ do not archive ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 02:13:19 PM PST US From: gliderx5@comcast.net Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Test email I'm having a terrible time posting for some reason. Thanks guys. I have been trying to do an intro post to say that I bought a Kolb MKII back in December, pictures at http://home.comcast.net/~mmorrison123 but so far I could only get my test message to go through. Thanks again -- Malcolm Morrison Schleicher ASW-15 Pietenpol Air Camper Kolb MKII -------------- Original message ---------------------- From: gliderx5@comcast.net > > Sorry guys > This is a test message. > I have been unable to post to this news group (unless this works!) > > -- > Malcolm Morrison > Schleicher ASW-15 > Pietenpol Air Camper > Kolb MKII > > > > ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 02:36:40 PM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Winter Sucks !!! From: "jim" We've had a lot of snow here in North Idaho this year. Up until last weekend, it has just been extra work and inconvenience for me. But last Sunday the snow came off my hangar and crushed the trailer for my Kolb Firefly. Fortunately the Firefly was safe inside my hangar. I won't know the full extent of the damage for at least a month when the 13 feet of snow against it melts, but it's probably totaled. There is a possiblity that I might be able to cut off the superstructure and put on a new one. We'll see. I had planned a lot of weekends with this trailer this year. Weather is supposed to be nice tomorrow (Sat.). I'm going to go flying, so hopefully that will ease the pain. -------- Jim N. Idaho Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=164309#164309 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/dcp_7012_195.jpg http://forums.matronics.com//files/dcp_7002_183.jpg ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 02:46:42 PM PST US From: Bob Noyer Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Test email All pix came through OK...including the tattoo. regards, Bob N. FireFly 070 Old Kolb http://www.angelfire.com/rpg/ronoy/ do not archive ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 03:01:36 PM PST US From: Russ Kinne Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Test email Mike, List My confuser cut off the bottom line that listed his Kolb -- so I had no idea he had one, along with his other aircraft. Sorry, my apologies. (Bloody confusers!!) On Feb 15, 2008, at 4:42 PM, Mike Welch wrote: > > > Russ, > > I got the impression he already had a Kolb...by listing it at the > bottom. However, if that was his WISH list, where can I get > one???!! he he > > Mike Welch > > Do Not Archive > > >> From: russ@rkiphoto.com >> Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Test email >> Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2008 16:21:47 -0500 >> To: kolb-list@matronics.com >> >> >> Malcolm >> I got it! -- but are you getting a Kolb? >> >> >> On Feb 15, 2008, at 3:53 PM, gliderx5@comcast.net wrote: >> >>> >>> Sorry guys >>> This is a test message. >>> I have been unable to post to this news group (unless this works!) >>> >>> -- >>> Malcolm Morrison >>> Schleicher ASW-15 >>> Pietenpol Air Camper >>> Kolb MKII >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > > _________________________________________________________________ > Shed those extra pounds with MSN and The Biggest Loser! > http://biggestloser.msn.com/ > > ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 03:06:18 PM PST US From: "John Hauck" Subject: Kolb-List: Welcome > Malcolm Morrison > Schleicher ASW-15 > Pietenpol Air Camper > Kolb MKII Malcolm M: Got you loud and clear. Discover a Corvair engine in your stable. Rev Pike will pee all over himself when he see that. Take care, john h mkIII ________________________________ Message 14 ____________________________________ Time: 03:08:00 PM PST US From: russ kinne Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Test email Malcolm Just FYI, the cleaner Bon Ami does NOT contain any silicates, and will not scratch as Comet, Ajax and the others can and do. And it cleans nicely. Good luck; you're doing a most nice job! On Feb 15, 2008, at 5:10 PM, gliderx5@comcast.net wrote: > > I'm having a terrible time posting for some reason. Thanks guys. > I have been trying to do an intro post to say that I bought a Kolb > MKII back in December, pictures at http://home.comcast.net/ > ~mmorrison123 but so far I could only get my test message to go > through. > > Thanks again > > -- > Malcolm Morrison > Schleicher ASW-15 > Pietenpol Air Camper > Kolb MKII > > -------------- Original message ---------------------- > From: gliderx5@comcast.net >> >> Sorry guys >> This is a test message. >> I have been unable to post to this news group (unless this works!) >> >> -- >> Malcolm Morrison >> Schleicher ASW-15 >> Pietenpol Air Camper >> Kolb MKII >> >> >> >> > > ________________________________ Message 15 ____________________________________ Time: 03:09:16 PM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: "MY" 503 muffler mount From: "planecrazzzy" I've been using a Stainless Steel plate for a muffler mount... Doesn't stick out like the alum angles , I've also heard of the aluminum ones cracking.... Anywho, I just made another one for a friend , and it looks BETTER than mine....Oh well... Just thought I'd share some pictures... .. .. Gotta Fly... Mike & "Jaz" in MN .. .. .. -------- .. .. .. .. .. Do Not Archive Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=164315#164315 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/muffler_mounting_plate_002_151.jpg http://forums.matronics.com//files/corkys_muffler_mounting_plate_003_197.jpg http://forums.matronics.com//files/corkys_muffler_mounting_plate_001_117.jpg ________________________________ Message 16 ____________________________________ Time: 03:19:05 PM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Winter Sucks !!! From: "planecrazzzy" I agree -------- .. .. .. .. .. Do Not Archive Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=164319#164319 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/pictures_from_cd_002_203.jpg ________________________________ Message 17 ____________________________________ Time: 03:21:49 PM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Winter Sucks !!! From: "jim" That's a great sculpture and picture! Is this at your home, or from someone else? -------- Jim N. Idaho Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=164320#164320 ________________________________ Message 18 ____________________________________ Time: 03:35:15 PM PST US From: N27SB@aol.com Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Winter Sucks !!! Move to Fla Shot 2 min ago In a message dated 2/15/2008 6:19:34 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, planecrazzzy@yahoo.com writes: --> Kolb-List message posted by: "planecrazzzy" I agree -------- .. .. .. .. .. Do Not Archive Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=164319#164319 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/pictures_from_cd_002_203.jpg **************The year's hottest artists on the red carpet at the Grammy Awards. Go to AOL Music. (http://music.aol.com/grammys?NCID=aolcmp00300000002565) ________________________________ Message 19 ____________________________________ Time: 04:30:42 PM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Winter Sucks !!! From: "jb92563" FLA is to dangerous for aircraft due to trailers being sucked up and dropping on hangers during Hurricane season. Better to move to Arizona where heat is the only problem. -------- Ray Kolb UltraStar (Cuyuna UL-202) Moni MotorGlider Schreder HP-11 Glider Riverside County, CA Do Not Archive Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=164330#164330 ________________________________ Message 20 ____________________________________ Time: 05:03:45 PM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Winter Sucks !!! From: "henry.voris" Kahului Airport METAR PHOG 160054Z 03011KT 10SM FEW030 SCT050 25/16 A2998 RMK AO2 SLP156 T02500161 -------- Henry Firefly Five-Charlie-Bravo Do Not Archive Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=164335#164335 ________________________________ Message 21 ____________________________________ Time: 09:05:13 PM PST US From: DAquaNut@aol.com Subject: Re: Kolb-List: "MY" 503 muffler mount In a message dated 2/15/2008 5:09:45 P.M. Central Standard Time, planecrazzzy@yahoo.com writes: I've been using a Stainless Steel plate for a muffler mount... Mike, Your mount looks nice , but I have seen stainless steel brackets, break and fall of ultralight engines ,where the stainless was mounted directly to the engine. Stainless work hardens in the presence of vibration. I'm not saying your bracket will fail, but you should examine the area between the head bolts on your stainless mount during every preflight for signs of a crack starting! Ed FF# 62 ( waiting for another day without the threat of hail or tornadoes in the forcast) (In Houston) **************The year's hottest artists on the red carpet at the Grammy Awards. Go to AOL Music. 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