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1. 04:04 AM - Re: Tires, was: Re: Building your own gear legs (Dana Hague)
2. 06:18 AM - Re: Re: Vg's (John Hauck)
3. 07:21 AM - Fw: Kolb Videos On Our Web Site (John Hauck)
4. 09:24 AM - Re: Fw: Kolb Videos On Our Web Site (robert bean)
5. 09:52 AM - Fly the plane!! (Mike Welch)
6. 10:38 AM - Re: Fly the plane!! (John Hauck)
7. 02:27 PM - Race (not Kolb) (planecrazzzy)
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| Subject: | Re: Tires, was: Re: Building your own gear legs |
At 10:47 PM 2/21/2008, Ron wrote:
>Its common if the air pressure is too low. I would go with custom gear
>legs. Slightly thinner, or longer with same thickness. There is really not
>much else you can do. I guess I would try wheels at low pressure with
>inners, but you can rip the stem off of them if the pressure is too low.
>Me I'd probably try to add some length through some adopter tube or sleeve
>to the gear. Don't know about your machine as I don't know what your gear
>looks like. But you can try the ideas they're free. :-)
I can't without major modifications on the US as the gear is absolutely
rigid and triangulated, unlike the later Kolbs. I'll probably look into
the "tire glue".
Not a closeup but you can sorta see it here:
http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v486/flyparafan/Kolb/?action=view¤t=DSC01307.jpg
-Dana
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> 1. With the "Landshorter" VG's on my Firestar, stall was reduced
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> 2. Stall is abrupt without warning, much like a sailplane laminar wing
> stall.
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> 3. The Firestar floats better in ground effect with VG's than without
> during the landing flare.
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> Dave Bigelow
Dave B:
I edited your post to reflect the test results I obtained from the test
flight I made with Larry Cottrell's FSII.
Folks, I think Dave's test results more acurately relect the changes VG's
make in a FS, and probably other Kolb models, than any other test results
that have been posted to the Kolb List to date.
Hopefully, folks will appreciate my choice of not installing VG's on my
mkIII. Not because they do not work, but because I have no need for them.
Thanks..........
john h
mkIII - The slick wing model. ;-)
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| Subject: | Fw: Kolb Videos On Our Web Site |
Morning Gang:
I don't have much info on these three videos, but they are good.
I believe these folks are the Adams from Missouri.
These videos are posted to the Kolb Web Site.
Please take note that these Kolbs are not equipped with VG's, best I can
tell. From my observations, they seem to be flying, taking off and
landing, like any normal Kolb airplane.
If this gentleman was to land any slower, he would be backing up.
http://www.kolbsport.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=
49&Itemid=77
john h
mkIII - Vids remind me of flying in the 1980's.
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From: Travis Brown
n27sb@aol.com
Sent: Friday, February 22, 2008 6:17 AM
Subject: Kolb Videos On Our Web Site
click this link and check out these videos.
http://www.kolbsport.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=
49&Itemid=77
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| Subject: | Re: Fw: Kolb Videos On Our Web Site |
kinda makes a feller want to go flying, eh?
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On 22, Feb 2008, at 10:18 AM, John Hauck wrote:
> Morning Gang:
>
> I don't have much info on these three videos, but they are good.
>
> I believe these folks are the Adams from Missouri.
>
> These videos are posted to the Kolb Web Site.
>
> Please take note that these Kolbs are not equipped with VG's, best
> I can tell. From my observations, they seem to be flying, taking
> off and landing, like any normal Kolb airplane.
>
> If this gentleman was to land any slower, he would be backing up.
>
> http://www.kolbsport.com/index.php?
> option=com_content&task=view&id=49&Itemid=77
>
> john h
> mkIII - Vids remind me of flying in the 1980's.
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Travis Brown
> To: John Williamson ; John Williamson ; John Hauck ; bill_joe ;
> n27sb@aol.com
> Sent: Friday, February 22, 2008 6:17 AM
> Subject: Kolb Videos On Our Web Site
>
> click this link and check out these videos.
>
> http://www.kolbsport.com/index.php?
> option=com_content&task=view&id=49&Itemid=77
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John, and group of Kolb Guys,
I just watched all 3 videos, in their entirety, and must say that this latest
discussion about "Kolb quit" (as Pat prefers to call it) has been the most useless
thread I've read in years!!
Watching these gentlemen fly and land their Firestars reminded me of why I wanted
a Kolb in the first place...namely because they are incredibly docile machines.
Conversions about stalling and bending landing gear and Kolb drop and
other inane subjects have only lead to fears to those of us that have yet to fly
our planes.
I have several hundred hours of flight time on my Cessna 172. I have never come
even close to bending the landing gear. I've never dropped it in from 10'
feet up. I've never stalled it as I was landing. (Although I watched someone
do this on a 152 rental plane). Now I say to myself "why would I fear landing
a Kolb, providing I FLY THE PLANE!!!"
Now, I'm NOT coming down on anyone who has ever bent landing gear. I know crap
happens. Even the best among us can have a lapse of concentration and make
a misjudgement. This may very well happen to me, someday. But having just watched
an excellent example of potential Kolb performance, long drawn-out discussions
on falling out the sky seem useless. Learn to fly the plane, simple as
that.
I found these videos refreshing, from the standpoint of knowing I am building
an enjoyable flying,and gentle, well balanced aircraft.
Mike Welch
Kolb MkIII
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| Subject: | Re: Fly the plane!! |
Now I say to myself "why would I fear landing a Kolb, providing I FLY THE
PLANE!!!"
>
>
> I found these videos refreshing, from the standpoint of knowing I am
> building an enjoyable flying,and gentle, well balanced aircraft.
>
> Mike Welch
Mike W:
Exactly what I have been saying.
I still bend a gear leg now and then, I think twice in the last couple
thousand hours. Most of the time is like the last gear leg bender, doing
something that is not quite ordinary. Landed with a passenger in a terraced
hay field. Got a little behind and off my intended tract, jumped a terrace
at less than flying speed landing on one gear leg. Result, bent gear leg.
Usually, it takes me a few times being asleep at the controls to land hard
enough to bend one. Again, that is what hydraulic presses are for.
I bent the 1" gear legs on my original FS during taxi preparing for its
maiden flight. Fixed that by going to what was then Twinstar 1 1/8" legs.
If I had VG's I'd probably still bend gear legs. I like to fly a little out
of the ordinary.
john h
mkIII
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http://www.snotr.com/video/568
Gotta Fly...
Mike & "Jaz" in MN
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