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1. 05:36 AM - Re: Re: Re: FS II perfomance (gary aman)
2. 05:50 AM - Re: Kolbra Flying (John Hauck)
3. 06:37 AM - Monument Valley (Mike Welch)
4. 07:54 AM - Re: Monument Valley (boyd)
5. 08:27 AM - Re: Monument Valley (Mike Welch)
6. 08:57 AM - Re: FS II perfomance (planecrazzzy)
7. 10:24 AM - Changing formats (Mike Welch)
8. 12:22 PM - Re: Monument Valley (John Hauck)
9. 01:39 PM - Re: Monument Valley (John Hauck)
10. 02:16 PM - Format style ( Test) (Mike & \)
11. 03:15 PM - Re: Format style ( Test) (planecrazzzy)
12. 03:16 PM - Re: Monument Valley (Mike Welch)
13. 03:27 PM - Re: Format style ( Test) (Mike Welch)
14. 04:31 PM - Re: Monument Valley (Dana Hague)
15. 06:29 PM - Re: Monument Valley (Nelson, Craig)
16. 11:03 PM - Official Kolb-List FAQ (Frequently Asked Questions) (Matt Dralle)
17. 11:05 PM - Official Kolb-List Usage Guidelines (Matt Dralle)
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| Subject: | Re: Re: FS II perfomance |
Jim,
my Firestar,419# 503dcdi ivo3 6100rpm on takeoff would fly 70 mph @5700.Try winding
up that IVO a little.On take off,initial rpm was below 6000 but within 3or
4 seconds was above 6000.You will have to tune the carbs to get 1100-1150 egts
at cruise. but it will go faster than you are currently seeing with a little
tweaking.
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From: Jimmy Young <jdy100@comcast.net>
Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2008 5:12:07 AM
Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Re: FS II perfomance
Howard,
My FS II cruises comfortably at about 57 mph, straight & level, no
wind. That requires about 5400 rpm. I've never tried to go all out top
speed wide open yet except taking off. It stalls at 36 mph. I've seen 65
mph airspeed with a 37 mph gps ground speed, and I've seen 55 mph airspeed with
85 mph gps groundspeed, depends on the wind. I've heard a lot of
claims of much faster airspeeds speeds and much lower rpms, but that's the
straight bull on mine.
My plane weighs 440 empty, no fuel, I weigh 210. It has the 503
DCDI, 3 blade IVO prop 66". I would like to cut weight on it, but there's
nothing I want to take off. I'm pretty darn happy with it just the way it
is.
Jimmy Young
FS II, N7043P
59 hrs on it & climbing. (my time)
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| Subject: | Re: Kolbra Flying |
> Comments are not needed or wanted. Just look at the videos.
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> It can also be seen at:
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fpM_-8xuEOw
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> John Williamson
Morning John W:
I did look at the videos. Made me hungry to go flying, soon as the weather
decides to cooperate.
While I was in YouTube I discovered all 16 of your videos, to include one of
Miss P'fer shot at the Kolb Homecoming last year. Thanks for posting it.
http://www.youtube.com/profile_videos?user=kolbrapilot&p=r
Enjoy John W's videos and stay out of trouble. Spring is not far away.
john h
mkIII
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Good Morning John H.,
Would you be kind enough to post the dates for the upcoming Monument Valley Informal
Fly In, please?
I would love to attend, even if it is by way of my big truck, whilst I am on my
way to Missouri to build my shop.
If that is the method I have to use to attend (as I'm moving and happen to be passing
by), at least I will be towing my Kolb on my big flatbed construction trailer.
I don't know if I will be 100% finished at that time, but at least I will be
100% finished with the airframe, paint, and engine. Interior components may still
be being installed.
I am installing an Icom A200 com radio, King KT76TSO transponder, Sigtronics
intercom, Dynon D10A EFIS, and Garmin 296 GPS, with built-in Air Gizmo panel dock.
These items, along with the various fabrication of avionics mounts may take
a little time.
Thanks for the dates,
Mike Welch
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MV 08 if kept true to the past,,, will be the weekend after mothers day,,
May 16 - 18
Boyd
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Much obliged, Boyd. It appears as though I WILL be there. May not be able to
fly my Kolb quite yet, but can certainly tow my plane on a trailer. As I said,
my plane may be virtually finished, but it's too soon to be guessing the first
flight date. I should be incredibly close, though, by mid-May.
Those dates for the Fly-In are definitely before I can head to Mo. My wife is
still teaching the school kiddies until the 23rd of May. I hope to see you
and all the other guys there.
Best wishes from the south west corner of Utah, Mike W.
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| Subject: | Re: FS II perfomance |
Since I took off a blade ( IVO 66" )
My cruise at 5900 is 65 + -
Climb out is fine...
My Best Ground speed so far is 106 MPH
Gotta Fly...
Mike & "Jaz" in MN - FSII/503 w/"B" box ( empty weight 436 )
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| Subject: | Changing formats |
Kolb guys,
Can anyone tell me how to change the text formatting style I have with this list.
Presently I have the "plain text" style for the emails I send. This style
is incredibly limiting, and if I had the option, I would prefer the "rich text"
version.
I have tried looking into the change myself, but can't seem to find a place that
offers a choice. Yet, I DO see other members that have the "rich text" version.
Thanks,
Mike Welch
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| Subject: | Re: Monument Valley |
> Would you be kind enough to post the dates for the upcoming Monument
Valley Informal Fly In, please?
> Mike Welch
Hi Mike W:
Most of us get there on Thursday and depart on Sunday. Normally, we choose
the weekend between Mothers Day and Memorial Day.
This year that falls on 22-25 May 2008.
The Unplanned/Unorganized Kolb Flyin Monument Valley, UT, is just that. No
jobs, no titles, no duties. It is a flyin for Kolb aircraft and we
encourage folks to fly their Kolbs to Gouldings Air Strip at Monument
Valley. However, if you can't flyin, then haul it in. If you don't have a
Kolb, that's alright, fly what you got. Most of us that fly in also camp in
a tent in the Camp Ground at Gouldings, eat our meals in the Restaurant and
Snack Bar at the Service Station. There is a indoor swimming pool, showers,
and the works at the Camp Ground. You can book tours of Monument Valley
with Gouldings for a close up look on the ground. You will be comfortable
if you come in an RV. It is a fair walk from the Camp Ground to the
Restaurant and the airstrip, so bring you hiking boots or bum a ride with
somebody that didn't fly in. We have had people from all over the world
visit us at the Kolb Flyin MV.
Here is Gouldings web site for full info:
http://www.gouldings.com/english/index.htm
We always have a good time meeting new and renewing old friendships. For
some of us this will be the 6th Kolb Flyin we have flown into at MV.
john h
mkIII
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| Subject: | Re: Monument Valley |
> MV 08 if kept true to the past,,, will be the weekend after mothers
day,,
> May 16 - 18
>
> Boyd
Boyd:
I did it the opposite way. Looked at May, figured the last weekend was
Memorial Day weekend and picked the previous weekend.
Let's change my dates to Boyd's, unless there is someone that objects.
If you get there a day early, on Thursday, then the early bird date is 15
May and the regular dates are 16-18 May 2008.
Sorry about that.
john h
mkIII
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| Subject: | Format style ( Test) |
Hi Mike,
Just Testing here....This message was sent from
my regular Yahoo email site...where I have all the options to
do like regular mail....
Let's see if the matronics site filters it....
Gotta Fly...
Mike & "Jaz" in MN
PS mailed to - kolb-list@matronics.com
Posted: Sat Mar 01, 2008 10:24 am Post subject: Changing formats
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Kolb guys,
Can anyone tell me how to change the text formatting style I have with this list.
Presently I have the "plain text" style for the emails I send. This style is
incredibly limiting, and if I had the option, I would prefer the "rich text"
version.
I have tried looking into the change myself, but can't seem to find a place that
offers a choice. Yet, I DO see other members that have the "rich text" version.
Thanks,
Mike Welch
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| Subject: | Re: Format style ( Test) |
NOPE,.....That test was a "Big FLOP"
Oh, well...
Gotta Fly...
Mike & "Jaz" in MN
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> If you get there a day early, on Thursday, then the early bird date is 15
> May and the regular dates are 16-18 May 2008.
>
> Sorry about that.
>
> john h
> mkIII
These dates work better for me. I will plan on being there!!
Mike Welch
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| Subject: | Format style ( Test) |
Hey Mike!!!
Yes, it came through to me, in BLUE, with large print. I even got to see a picture
of "Miss Lucky Stars, and wait!! Could it be?? The one and only....Jaz??
Awesome. Thanks for your help. Maybe my problem (i know, I have many), but
my problem in THIS case is my email server. I'll try to sign up with a new Yahoo!
account.
Appreciate your help, Mike & Retro
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> Date: Sat, 1 Mar 2008 11:38:23 -0800
> From: planecrazzzy@yahoo.com
> Subject: Kolb-List: Format style ( Test)
> To: kolb-list@matronics.com
>
> Hi Mike,
> Just Testing here....This message was sent from
> my regular Yahoo email site...where I have all the options to
> do like regular mail....
>
> Let's see if the matronics site filters it....
>
> Gotta Fly...
> Mike & "Jaz" in MN
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> PS mailed to - kolb-list@matronics.com
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> [http://forums.matronics.com/templates/Matronics/images/icon_minipost.gif]Posted: Sat Mar 01, 2008 10:24 am Post subject: Changing formats
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> Kolb guys,
>
> Can anyone tell me how to change the text formatting style I have with this list.
Presently I have the "plain text" style for the emails I send. This style
is incredibly limiting, and if I had the option, I would prefer the "rich text"
version.
> I have tried looking into the change myself, but can't seem to find a place that
offers a choice. Yet, I DO see other members that have the "rich text" version.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Mike Welch
>
> _________________________________________________________________
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> Buttercup - STOL - Aircraft
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Buttercup-STOL/
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> Firestar I&II - STOL - Aircraft
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> Sometimes you just have to take the leap and build your wings on the way down...
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| Subject: | Re: Monument Valley |
No way I can make it to MV, but when is the fly-in at Homer's this year (if
it's still on)?
-Dana
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Uncle craig will be there
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[mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Mike Welch
Sent: Saturday, March 01, 2008 2:57 PM
Subject: RE: Kolb-List: Monument Valley
> If you get there a day early, on Thursday, then the early bird date is
15
> May and the regular dates are 16-18 May 2008.
>
> Sorry about that.
>
> john h
> mkIII
These dates work better for me. I will plan on being there!!
Mike Welch
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| Subject: | Official Kolb-List Usage Guidelines |
Dear Listers,
Please read over the Kolb-List Usage Guidelines below. The complete
Kolb-List FAQ including these Usage Guidelines can be found at the
following URL:
http://www.matronics.com/FAQs/Kolb-List.FAQ.html
Thank you,
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
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Kolb-List Usage Guidelines
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The following details the official Usage Guidelines for the Kolb-List.
You are encouraged to read it carefully, and to abide by the rules therein.
Failure to use the Kolb-List in the manner described below may result
in the removal of the subscribers from the List.
Kolb-List Policy Statement
The purpose of the Kolb-List is to provide a forum of discussion for
things related to this particular discussion group. The List's goals
are to serve as an information resource to its members; to deliver
high-quality content; to provide moral support; to foster camaraderie
among its members; and to support safe operation. Reaching these goals
requires the participation and cooperation of each and every member of
the List. To this end, the following guidelines have been established:
- Please keep all posts related to the List at some level. Do not submit
posts concerning computer viruses, urban legends, random humor, long
lost buddies' phone numbers, etc. etc.
- THINK carefully before you write. Ask yourself if your post will be
relevant to everyone. If you have to wonder about that, DON'T send it.
- Remember that your post will be included for posterity in an archive
that is growing in size at an extraordinary rate. Try to be concise and
terse in your posts. Avoid overly wordy and lengthy posts and
responses.
- Keep your signature brief. Please include your name, email address,
aircraft type/tail number, and geographic location. A short line
about where you are in the building process is also nice. Avoid
bulky signatures with character graphics; they consume unnecessary
space in the archive.
- DON'T post requests to the List for information when that info is
easily obtainable from other widely available sources. Consult the
web page or FAQ first.
- If you want to respond to a post, DO keep the "Subject:" line of
your response the same as that of the original post. This makes it
easy to find threads in the archive.
- When responding, NEVER quote the *entire* original post in your
response. DO use lines from the original post to help "tune in" the
reader to the topic at hand, but be selective. The impact that
quoting the entire original post has on the size of the archive
can not be overstated!
- When the poster asks you to respond to him/her personally, DO NOT
then go ahead and reply to the List. Be aware that clicking the
"reply" button on your mail package does not necessarily send your
response to the original poster. You might have to actively address
your response with the original poster's email address.
- DO NOT use the List to respond to a post unless you have something
to add that is relevant and has a broad appeal. "Way to go!", "I
agree", and "Congratulations" are all responses that are better sent
to the original poster directly, rather than to the List at large.
- When responding to others' posts, avoid the feeling that you need to
comment on every last point in their posts, unless you can truly
contribute something valuable.
- Feel free to disagree with other viewpoints, BUT keep your tone
polite and respectful. Don't make snide comments, personally attack
other listers, or take the moral high ground on an obviously
controversial issue. This will only cause a pointless debate that
will hurt feelings, waste bandwidth and resolve nothing.
- Occassional posts by vendors or individuals who are regularyly
subscribed to a given List are considered acceptable. Posts by
List members promoting their respective products or items for sale
should be of a friendly, informal nature, and should not resemble
a typical SPAM message. The List isn't about commercialism, but
is about sharing information and knowledge. This applies to
everyone, including those who provide products to the entire
community. Informal presentation and moderation should be the
operatives with respect to advertising on the Lists.
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