Kolb-List Digest Archive

Mon 03/03/08


Total Messages Posted: 11



Today's Message Index:
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     1. 05:18 AM - video (william sullivan)
     2. 10:23 AM - OT (almost): XWind (Ben Ransom)
     3. 12:49 PM - Re: Kolb Envy (jb92563)
     4. 01:23 PM - Re: OT (almost): XWind (Jack B. Hart)
     5. 02:32 PM - Forced landing (Steve Garvelink)
     6. 03:48 PM - Re: Re: Kolb Envy (KolbFlyerJim@aol.com)
     7. 05:43 PM - Firestar project (william sullivan)
     8. 07:16 PM - climb rates (william sullivan)
     9. 07:19 PM - Vamoose for Sale (Larry Bourne)
    10. 08:17 PM - Lost mold strut faring (Nelson, Craig)
    11. 08:38 PM - Re: Lost mold strut faring (ElleryWeld@aol.com)
 
 
 


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    Time: 05:18:38 AM PST US
    From: william sullivan <williamtsullivan@att.net>
    Subject: video
    Possums- Thanks for the video. Anybody taking similar videos, please post the links, especially T/O and landings. They show the great climb rates, as well as the glide factor. do not archive. Bill old FS, or whatever


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    Time: 10:23:00 AM PST US
    From: Ben Ransom <bransom@ucdavis.edu>
    Subject: OT (almost): XWind
    IMO much of the pucker factor in Xwind landings comes after the wheels are on the ground. If you transition to putting the tailwheel down quickly (thinking the hard part is over), the wing angle has increased quickly and you gotta be ready with a lot of aileron for the wind that will catch under the upwind wing, not to mention have your happy feet ready to keep it from weather-vaning (leading to ground looping). Here's a recent good video showing the big boys can have the same problem. http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/international/2008/03/03/plane.drift.clip.cnn -Ben


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    Time: 12:49:48 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Kolb Envy
    From: "jb92563" <jb92563@yahoo.com>
    Good catch of the day guys......I can barely stop laughing long enough to hit send. [Laughing] I'm sure every Kolber just has a big grin right about now. Just like a woman with assets, she is always looking at another woman with bigger assets and getting jealous when the competition steals the attention by getting cranky and pissy about it. [Wink] -------- Ray Kolb UltraStar (Cuyuna UL-202) Moni MotorGlider Schreder HP-11 Glider Riverside County, CA Do Not Archive Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=167450#167450


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    Time: 01:23:34 PM PST US
    From: "Jack B. Hart" <jbhart@onlyinternet.net>
    Subject: Re: OT (almost): XWind
    At 10:20 AM 3/3/08 -0800, you wrote: > >IMO much of the pucker factor in Xwind landings comes after the wheels >are on the ground. If you transition to putting the tailwheel down >quickly (thinking the hard part is over), the wing angle has increased >quickly and you gotta be ready with a lot of aileron for the wind that >will catch under the upwind wing, not to mention have your happy feet >ready to keep it from weather-vaning (leading to ground looping). >Here's a recent good video showing the big boys can have the same problem. >http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/international/2008/03/03/plane.drift.clip.cnn >-Ben > Ben, If it had been a high wing Kolb, he could have side slipped it on down and planted the up wind wheel and kept it straight. If you can keep a Kolb locked on the center line in a crosswind with a side slip, the landing is a non event. If you can't keep it on the center line, it is time to make a straight into the wind landing on a taxiway and hope someone is there to wing walk you to some safe area. With a low wing and tricycle gear, he had to crab into the wind to keep close to the center line and at the last second straighten it out and get the up wind wing down. Too much to do with too little time to get it done. They were lucky he got it back off. The Kolb has the advantage that it does not have much fuselage aft of the main wheels to weather vane. Jack B. Hart FF004 Winchester, IN


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    Time: 02:32:07 PM PST US
    From: "Steve Garvelink" <link@cdc.net>
    Subject: Forced landing
    This is a good video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3SL-CML9xcA <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3SL-CML9xcA&feature=related> &feature=related do not archive


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    Time: 03:48:27 PM PST US
    From: KolbFlyerJim@aol.com
    Subject: Re: Kolb Envy
    Hi all Jim here Not one to brag BUT I get 1000 Fpm climb at 40 mph indicated in my UltraStar Jim. UltraStar 503 dcsi N2613M In a message dated 3/3/2008 2:50:52 P.M. Central Standard Time, jb92563@yahoo.com writes: --> Kolb-List message posted by: "jb92563" <jb92563@yahoo.com> Good catch of the day guys......I can barely stop laughing long enough to hit send. [Laughing] I'm sure every Kolber just has a big grin right about now. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=167450#167450 **************It's Tax Time! Get tips, forms, and advice on AOL Money & Finance. (http://money.aol.com/tax?NCID=aolprf00030000000001)


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    Time: 05:43:00 PM PST US
    From: william sullivan <williamtsullivan@att.net>
    Subject: Firestar project
    I mounted up one wing per instructions from Dennis at TNK. The only change I made was to fabricate a forward wing adapter channel, to make up the 2 1/2" difference between the airframe wing brackets and the wings that are being fitted to the plane. I chose to make the channel instead of using structural channel. Structural channel has a sharp outer corner, and a tapered flange. The sharp, squared corner would not let me get a flush, uniform fit to the old bracket welded to the inner steel rib. I did not like the tapered flange of structural- it could start wearing unevenly on the bolt, and the thin part of the taper was where the load was. I heated and formed a rounded edge channel 2 1/2" wide x 2 1/2" long with a 1" flange, made out of 1/8" hot rolled flat stock. Three 5/16" bolts secured it to the wing bracket, and when the AOA was right the last hole for the wing pin was centered nicely on the other flange. I did have to run a rope out to a tree to hold the wing for marking- the wind was erratic today, and kept swinging the wing back. The wing folds right back, but the wing holding bracket supplied by TNK was not lined up with the new wing's holding tube. The wing's tube was about 9" to the rear, actually past the end of the fuselage main tube. I took some flat stock and made a couple of "J" brackets. I welded a 1/2" nut to the back of the upright of the "J", and cut a piece of 1/2" threaded rod to go through the holding tube. I padded the "J" brackets with some rubber moulding held on with plastic ties. Slide one end through, spin the other "J" bracket on, and set the wing in place. It takes about one minute to assemble, and gives me a lot more ground clearance than if the wings had fit. No flying weight added, either. Prop clearance is now about 3" from the aileron. I had to order a couple of longer aileron control tubes from Travis at TNK- mine were about 2" too short. All the snow finally softened up to the point where I could clear off the tarp on the other wing. It is in my living room, and the patches are fewer and smaller than the first one. The Pre-Val spray kits are $4.99 at my local NAPA store, and I picked up a laser digital thermometer from Harbor Freight for about $40.00. Works great. So far, so good. Bill Sullivan old FS


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    Time: 07:16:04 PM PST US
    From: william sullivan <williamtsullivan@att.net>
    Subject: climb rates
    Trike vs. Kolb- I guess some people really will bring a knife to a gun fight. Bill Sullivan old FS do not archive


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    Time: 07:19:13 PM PST US
    From: Larry Bourne <biglar@gogittum.com>
    Subject: Vamoose for Sale
    Folks, the time has come. Ol' Lar is getting ready to retire, and preparing for a life of traveling. These plans don't have room for more toys beyond the boat and the camper, so Vamoose has got to go. For all you want to know about Vamoose, look on my website at www.gogittum.com and click on the "Building Vamoose" link. You're also welcome to email me direct at: biglar@gogittum.com I don't want to make this a long, drawn out process, so I'll sell this complete Mk III Classic for $10,500.00, including the trailer. I have something over $30,000.00 invested in it. (I stopped counting at $24,000.00, and that was a long time ago) All that's needed to finish it is a reduction drive for the engine, (or a different engine) a battery, and cleaning of the fuel system. Prob'ly will need new fuel pumps, too. Prop is a 3 blade 72" Warp Drive with nickel leading edges. Trailer had new tires and fresh packed bearings for the 800 mile tow from Palm Springs, CA to Santa Fe, NM last year. It towed smooth and easy at 65 - 70 mph, and could hardly tell it was back there. The plane is in the trailer and stored at Santa Fe, NM airport. It's registered as "Experimental" and is numbered "N78LB." Lar. P.S. In the near future, Der Bug is also going up for sale. It's a 1969 VW Beetle with the Baja Bug conversion, 2110cc engine, (same as on Vamoose, but with dual Webers instead of fuel injection) Many, many upgrades and extras, and I'll sell it for $5,500.00. P.P.S. Sorry, but I won't be seeing you at Monument Valley this year. I hope y'all enjoy yourselves up there. It's a great place and I have a lot of great memories of previous trips.


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    Time: 08:17:51 PM PST US
    Subject: Lost mold strut faring
    From: "Nelson, Craig" <craig.nelson@heraeus.com>
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    Time: 08:38:13 PM PST US
    From: ElleryWeld@aol.com
    Subject: Re: Lost mold strut faring
    Thanks for posting that info Uncle Craig I am going to try and see what kind of a mess I can make I'm going to start with some simple stuff first and if it turns out ok I might even try some more challenge things Ellery in Maine do not archive In a message dated 3/3/2008 11:19:07 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, craig.nelson@heraeus.com writes: <<DSCN1892.JPG>> St <<DSCN1881.JPG>> ar <<DSCN1882.JPG>> te <<DSCN1883.JPG>> d <<DSCN1884.JPG>> a <<DSCN1885.JPG>> st <<DSCN1886.JPG>> ru <<DSCN1888.JPG>> t <<DSCN1889.JPG>> fa <<DSCN1890.JPG>> ring for the bottom of the strut today step 1 I applied food wrap to the fusladge Step 2 I covered thr spar with paper Step 3 with masking tape I made the desired shape Step 4 with gauz and plaster I covered the masking tape Step 5 removed the plaster part from the plane Step 6 cleaned it up now it"s ready for the resin and glass Uncle craig **************It's Tax Time! Get tips, forms, and advice on AOL Money & Finance. (http://money.aol.com/tax?NCID=aolprf00030000000001)




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