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1. 03:41 AM - axle fitting (william sullivan)
2. 03:53 AM - Re: axle fitting (ElleryWeld@aol.com)
3. 04:26 AM - Re: Re: FireStar Cockpit Noise Reduction? (N27SB@aol.com)
4. 04:34 AM - axle fittings (william sullivan)
5. 06:51 AM - Re: axle fittings (Larry Cottrell)
6. 06:56 AM - Re: Computer woes (WhiskeyVictor36@aol.com)
7. 08:18 AM - Re: THE RULES!!!!!!! (jb92563)
8. 08:27 AM - Re: Lost Mold (Richard & Martha Neilsen)
9. 08:55 AM - Re: Re: FireStar Cockpit Noise Reduction? (Carlos)
10. 09:06 AM - Re: axle fittings (Jim ODay)
11. 10:06 AM - Re: Lost Mold (Mike Welch)
12. 11:07 AM - Re: Re: Lost Mold (Nelson, Craig)
13. 11:32 AM - Lost mold (Nelson, Craig)
14. 11:32 AM - dolly (Nelson, Craig)
15. 12:26 PM - Botched UltraStar Landing Assessment (jb92563)
16. 12:50 PM - Re: dolly (Travis Brown (Kolb Aircraft))
17. 01:13 PM - Re: dolly (Mike Welch)
18. 01:13 PM - Re: Firestar Videos and VG's (jb92563)
19. 02:10 PM - axle fittings (william sullivan)
20. 03:34 PM - Re: engine out (Steve Garvelink)
21. 03:41 PM - Re: Botched UltraStar Landing Assessment (Steve Garvelink)
22. 03:46 PM - Re: Botched UltraStar Landing Assessment (Mike Welch)
23. 03:46 PM - Re: Botched UltraStar Landing Assessment (John Hauck)
24. 05:10 PM - FW: Fire star/more picks (Nelson, Craig)
25. 05:10 PM - FW: Fire star (Nelson, Craig)
26. 05:28 PM - Re: Fire star (Ralph B)
27. 05:32 PM - Re: Botched UltraStar Landing Assessment (Dana Hague)
28. 05:38 PM - Re: Botched UltraStar Landing Assessment (David Key)
29. 05:50 PM - Re: FW: Fire star/more picks (Russ Kinne)
30. 05:51 PM - Re: FW: Fire star (Russ Kinne)
31. 05:57 PM - Re: Botched UltraStar Landing Assessment (Mike Welch)
32. 06:01 PM - Re: Botched UltraStar Landing Assessment (Russ Kinne)
33. 06:13 PM - Re: Botched UltraStar Landing Assessment (Dana Hague)
34. 06:40 PM - Re: Computer woes (Ron)
35. 06:47 PM - Re: Botched UltraStar Landing Assessment (George Alexander)
36. 07:13 PM - Re: Re: Lost mold strut faring (Nelson, Craig)
37. 07:50 PM - Re: Botched UltraStar Landing Assessment (robert bean)
38. 07:56 PM - Re: FW: Fire star (Richard & Martha Neilsen)
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Thanks Larry. I think I do have the thin ones. I also have some bent gear legs
that came with the plane-3?- that maybe could be straightened. They are aluminum.
Right now, the plane has one bent leg. The other side has a much stiffer
leg- the taper starts further down. I have new legs of the lighter type that
will be installed. I asked TNK about putting steel legs on, and they advised me
to stay original because a hard landing could transmit the shock up to the main
frame- maybe causing very expensive problems. Very good advice from TNK, as
I am very inexperienced. Like 40 years out of practice. When in doubt, go with
the factory advice. Yes, they do want to sell parts- but not unless they have
to. I have to check the "A" frame for cracks while I'm in there. There is also
a skid plate on the nose, so I think one of the former users was in the habit
of rough landings.
Bill Sullivan
old FS
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| Subject: | Re: axle fitting |
My Old Firestar is going to be listed on Barnstormers today as the guy that
has it in MN has a problem with motion sickness and has to give up his flying
You can get a good deal on it with trailer and skis
Ellery in Maine
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In a message dated 3/6/2008 6:41:57 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,
williamtsullivan@att.net writes:
Thanks Larry. I think I do have the thin ones. I also have some bent gear
legs that came with the plane-3?- that maybe could be straightened. They are
aluminum. Right now, the plane has one bent leg. The other side has a much
stiffer leg- the taper starts further down. I have new legs of the lighter type
that will be installed. I asked TNK about putting steel legs on, and they
advised me to stay original because a hard landing could transmit the shock up
to the main frame- maybe causing very expensive problems. Very good advice
from TNK, as I am very inexperienced. Like 40 years out of practice. When in
doubt, go with the factory advice. Yes, they do want to sell parts- but not
unless they have to. I have to check the "A" frame for cracks while I'm in
there. There is also a skid plate on the nose, so I think one of the former users
was in the habit of rough landings.
Bill Sullivan
old FS
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| Subject: | Re: FireStar Cockpit Noise Reduction? |
In a message dated 3/5/2008 9:55:56 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
grageda@innw.net writes:
Hi All,
After reading all the helpful suggestions I now have a plan. I have ordered
a propeller hub extension from Saber Mfg in TX. The prop will be moved back
3" to reduce tip noise.
Carlos,
Sounds like you bought #2 of 2 prototypes that Saber cut for me. I have not
run mine yet but unless they re cut it you will have to make some custom
washers. the clearance next to the inner hub is too tight for the bolt head.
They could cut the inner spool to a smaller OD but they did not want to reduce
it.
I bought some aluminum washers from ACS and knocked the edge off on the belt
sander.
The reason for all the washers is because I used long enough metric bolts so
as to have a grip long enough to all the way through the hub.
steve
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On my old Firestar, the tube thickness of the axle fittings appears to measure
.0625. This is approximate, due to light rust, paint, etc.
Larry- can you take the calipers to your broken one? John H. measured .0650.
My axles also seem to have RTV in the socket- Is this standard practice?
Bill Sullivan
old FS
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| Subject: | Re: axle fittings |
With the paint and other stuff on mine the measurement comes out to
.067, so I would venture that .065 would be correct.
Larry C
----- Original Message -----
From: william sullivan
To: kolb list
Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2008 5:31 AM
Subject: Kolb-List: axle fittings
On my old Firestar, the tube thickness of the axle fittings appears
to measure .0625. This is approximate, due to light rust, paint, etc.
Larry- can you take the calipers to your broken one? John H.
measured .0650.
My axles also seem to have RTV in the socket- Is this standard
practice?
Bill Sullivan
old FS
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| Subject: | Re: Computer woes |
Possums,
That is priceless!
Bill Varnes
Original Kolb FireStar
Audubon NJ
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just for an example.
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| Subject: | Re: THE RULES!!!!!!! |
Share!
What rules?
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Ray
Kolb UltraStar (Cuyuna UL-202)
Moni MotorGlider
Schreder HP-11 Glider
Riverside County, CA
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I'm going to ask a stupid question. Why the extra step of the lost mold? Why
don't you just form the composite on the plane?
Rick Neilsen
Redrive VW Powered MKIIIC
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| Subject: | Re: FireStar Cockpit Noise Reduction? |
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| Subject: | Re: axle fittings |
Donnie at Kolb sent me a note, the "beefed up" parts have .120 wall thickness.
Jim
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> I'm going to ask a stupid question. Why the extra step of the lost mold? Why
> don't you just form the composite on the plane?
>
> Rick Neilsen
> Redrive VW Powered MKIIIC
Mr. Rick,
Excellent question. I guess in some case, especially where outer surface appearance
isn't that important, you could do that.
However, when making most items to be installed on your Kolb airplane, you want
them to have the high quality and beauty that Uncle Craig creates. In order
to get that level of perfection, you pretty much need to build that "perfect"
part, in position, on your plane......and then copy it (with the "lost mold",
and then recreate it.
Here's why; If you do all that "rough" build up, like with tape, or wood strips
or plaster, or whatever you choose to use, you have is the approximate shape.
Say you go ahead and add some smoothing agent, like the joint compound, or
bondo, of carving foam, etc., and you've shaped your fairing....real nice.
Ok, so now you start the fiberglass for the finished piece. Remember, the really
nice surface is on the INSIDE of your layers of fiberglass, not the outside.
But, let's continue. So if we put a few layers of fiberglass on the outside,
and once it's cured, pull it apart. You will find you have something that
is similar in shape as your build-up, but, boy, is the outside in rough shape.
You will have to sand, and sand, and sand, on, and on. And I'm here to tell
you, fiberglass impregnated with resin is darn near rock hard. Shaping after
the fact is a living nightmare!!!! It will be the same process you just went
through, making that "perfect shape" on your plane, only this time you won't
be smoothing bondo, or joint compound, you be trying to smooth....well, glass!!!
Even though making a "lost mold" is a lot of work, and on the face of it, APPEARS
to be double the effort, it really isn't. You will spend much more time
trying to enhance the appearance of the shortcut method.
Another very big difference between the proper mold method, and the quick "lay
on some fiberglass layers" method is weight. Think about it. If we make our
sculptured shape flawless...on the plane...in position, and then make a thick
rigid mold, whatever we build on the inside is going to be just as flawless
(on its outer surface...the important surface). We can probably get away with
as little as 2-3 coats of glass. This piece will be virtually perfect, needing
only very minor and easy edge trimming. Lightly sand and then paint.
But if we try to get away with 2-3 coats of an outside build, the piece will
have all kinds of flex and give as we try to make it "perfect". We'll need 5-7
coats of material, to have the necessary rigidity to sand the heck out of it.
While I understand your logical question, the industry standard is to build a
mold of a "finished product", then recreate that finished product INSIDE the
mold. BTW, not all mold are "lost". Obviously, many molds are built to withstand
the ability to make hundreds of copies. (bathtubs, , boats, etc) That is
why the release agent is so critical. It leaves to mold unharmed by trying
to pry out your beautiful artwork.
Best regards, Mike Welch
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I can shape the piece with plaster make the contours perfect. The
plaster sometimes gets up to 1 inch thick. The part ends up one layer of
s glass one layer of carbon and one layer of s glass extremely light and
not much filler to smooth it out.
Uncle craig
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Martha Neilsen
Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2008 9:25 AM
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Lost Mold
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I'm going to ask a stupid question. Why the extra step of the lost mold?
Why
don't you just form the composite on the plane?
Rick Neilsen
Redrive VW Powered MKIIIC
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.Lost mold means just that. The mold is lost when the part is made. I
make a positive mold out of tape to get the basic shape then the plaster
is used to make the mold strong enough to remove from the plane.. More
plaster is used to get the proper contour of the part .. Then I apply
separator to the plaster called Aislar a dental denture material in
dentistry it is call tin foil substitute used to fill the pours plaster
so acrylic does not stick to it. Then I wax the plaster form and apply
the layers of glass and resin, when this sets up I remove the part from
the mold. The plaster brakes up on removal because it is not strong
enough to stay in one piece when removing the part.( lost mold it is
only good for one part) Then I fill the weave of the cloth with filler
and paint it
Uncle craig
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| Subject: | Botched UltraStar Landing Assessment |
What did this guy do wrong on landing his UltraStar to cause gear collapse?
Review this short video clip:
[URL]http://www.youtube.com/v/0hqEBYcFp4k" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" wmode="transparent" width="425" height="355"[/URL]
I think he might have been going a little fast and high and chopped to much power
and came down hard.
Seems like the "Fly it On" technique is the way to go instead of trying to force
it down without sufficient speed or power.
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Kolb UltraStar (Cuyuna UL-202)
Moni MotorGlider
Schreder HP-11 Glider
Riverside County, CA
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Craig A great job ,looks awesome.
Travis @ Kolb
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Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2008 2:25 PM
Subject: Kolb-List: dolly
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Uncle Craig,
Very nice looking dolly.
Coincidentally, while folding my wings on my MkIII yesterday, and pushing it
to the backyard, I told my neighbor who was helping me push it, I was going to
build THAT exact thing...a dolly.
You just saved me the trouple of designing one. I hope you don't mind, but I
have to build one just like yours.
Mike Welch
ps. Keep the ideas coming. Soon, we'll have tons of awesome looking Kolbs, courtesy
of your ideas.
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| Subject: | Re: Firestar Videos and VG's |
VG's placement along the chord of the wing is unique to each airfoil type.
How far back have people been placing their VG's of FS or UltraStar?
I'm inclined to just place a couple bays worth and then do an oil test.
The way I believe VG's work, and please correct me if you think I am wrong, is
as follows:
At a moderate angle of attack the Air flows (probably turbulent flow) over the
leading edge till it reaches a point of separation past the max thickness point
on the wing.
The vortex generators are ahead of the Max thickness point and serve to additionally
energize the flow by means of a vortex that keeps the flow attached to the
wing further back than normal allowing more lift to be generated and hence
lowers the stall speed.
With that reasoning I would think the optimum place to put the VG's is just before
the separation point but not to far ahead as further ahead will increase drag.
Did landshorter test a Kolb airfoil in the Tunnel or do field testing on a Kolb
to determine the best placement point?
I think oil tests on a test section might be my best option.
Mispositioned VG's would either add more drag at higher speed or not work at all
if placed to far aft.
If your VG's are not working then they need to come forward on the wing.
So how far back are Kolbs getting their VG's?
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Kolb UltraStar (Cuyuna UL-202)
Moni MotorGlider
Schreder HP-11 Glider
Riverside County, CA
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Larry- .065 should be the new one. Is that the one you broke? I measured mine
again, and mine is definately thinner than that.
Bill Sullivan
old FS
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I saw this video about a year ago and actually talked to the individual that landed
at this site. He did catch a small tree that turned him around. It was
a Phantom and he had very little damage to the landing gear. I was impressed
that he found a site to put it into at all.
Steve G
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| Subject: | Re: Botched UltraStar Landing Assessment |
Seems like the Woman in the video made it happen through creative negative thinking!
She just knew it would happen. To me it seems that the landing gear was
week because the landing didnt seem to be that ruff nor did it seem like he
stalled in in.
Steve
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| Subject: | Botched UltraStar Landing Assessment |
> What did this guy do wrong on landing his UltraStar to cause gear collapse?
> --------
> Ray
Ray,
I can't figure this one out!! I have watched that video at least 10 times, one
right after another, and I still can't figure out why he lost a gear leg.
He appeared to have PLENTY of airspeed. Although it appeared he was a little
high in his flare, I still think he could have just bounced a little.
In my opinion, either he hit in a little pothole, or his landing gear leg assembly
was defective. I do know that some of the early UltraStar kits were "weld
it yourself". I know a guy that got one of those "weld your own's". It was
disgustingly poorly built. Even the wings were horribly put together. This
particular UltraStar undoubedly would have crashed IF it was ever finished.
Thank God, this person never finished it, and it was abandoned to rot.
My friend, Frank Reed, in Hayden, Idaho, a true and genuine craftsman, rebuild
this mess, and staightened the whole plane out!! My guess is, the video UltraStar
might be one of those planes that should have NEVER been flown.
I think people like John H., and others that have UltraStar flight time, may
have a better analysis of what went wrong.
Mike Welch
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| Subject: | Re: Botched UltraStar Landing Assessment |
> Seems like the "Fly it On" technique is the way to go instead of trying
to force it down without sufficient speed or power.
>
> --------
> Ray
Ray:
I agree with you to a point.
Without sufficient flying speed, one does not have to try to force it down.
It does that all by its self. Seemd the pilot stalled the aircraft high.
john h
mkIII
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| Subject: | FW: Fire star/more picks |
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Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2008 12:28 PM
Subject: Fire star
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From: Nelson, Craig
Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2008 12:28 PM
Subject: Fire star
Milo tim's plane
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This is a very nice well-built plane.
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Ralph B
Original Firestar
N91493 E-AB
21 years flying it
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| Subject: | Re: Botched UltraStar Landing Assessment |
At 03:24 PM 3/6/2008, jb92563 wrote:
>
>What did this guy do wrong on landing his UltraStar to cause gear collapse?
>
>Review this short video clip:
>[URL]http://www.youtube.com/v/0hqEBYcFp4k"
>type="application/x-shockwave-flash" wmode="transparent" width="425"
>height="355"[/URL]
>
>I think he might have been going a little fast and high and chopped to
>much power and came down hard.
>
>Seems like the "Fly it On" technique is the way to go instead of trying to
>force it down without sufficient speed or power.
"Kolb Quit."
But seriously, he slowed it up too much, too high, and dropped it
in. Common ultralight newby error.
-Dana
--
"Gold cannot always get you good soldiers, but good soldiers can always
get you gold"-- Niccolo Machiavelli
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| Subject: | Botched UltraStar Landing Assessment |
That's It, That's the Kolb drop on film! Do you realize the significance of
getting the elusive Kolb drop on film?! Wow.
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| Subject: | Re: FW: Fire star/more picks |
What a GORGEOUS pair of Kolbs!!!
Green with envy in CT
On Mar 6, 2008, at 8:07 PM, Nelson, Craig wrote:
>
>
> -----O <<DSCN1939.JPG>> rigi <<DSCN1943.JPG>> na <<DSCN1944.JPG>> l
> <<DSCN1945.JPG>> Me <<DSCN1948.JPG>> ss <<DSCN1949.JPG>> ag
> <<DSCN1924.JPG>> e-----
> From: Nelson, Craig
> Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2008 12:28 PM
> To: 'kolb-list@matronics.com'
> Subject: Fire star
>
>
> Milo tim's plane
> Uncle
> craig<DSCN1939.JPG><DSCN1943.JPG><DSCN1944.JPG><DSCN1945.JPG><DSCN1948
> .JPG><DSCN1949.JPG><DSCN1924.JPG>
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| Subject: | Re: FW: Fire star |
In re Milo Tim's plane --
Beautiful pix of a beautiful plane! -- but (me being an incorrigible
jokester) -- doesn't that look like a couple bales of pot in the
cockpit on pic #1 ?? -- sorry 'bout that --
Russ
On Mar 6, 2008, at 8:05 PM, Nelson, Craig wrote:
> <<DSCN1931.JPG>>
> <<DSCN1932.JPG>>
> <<DSCN1933.JPG>> -- <<DSCN1937.JPG>> -- <<DSCN1938.JPG>> -O
> <<DSCN1939.JPG>> ri <<DSCN1942.JPG>> ginal Message-----
> From: Nelson, Craig
> Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2008 12:28 PM
> To: 'kolb-list@matronics.com'
> Subject: Fire star
>
>
> Milo tim's plane
> Uncle
> craig<DSCN1931.JPG><DSCN1932.JPG><DSCN1933.JPG><DSCN1937.JPG><DSCN1938
> .JPG><DSCN1939.JPG><DSCN1942.JPG>
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| Subject: | Botched UltraStar Landing Assessment |
Dave,
You've got me laughing MAO.. Now, THAT was funny!!!
Mike Welch
________________________________
From: dhkey@msn.com
Subject: RE: Kolb-List: Botched UltraStar Landing Assessment
That's It, That's the Kolb drop on film! Do you realize the significance of getting
the elusive Kolb drop on film?! Wow.
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| Subject: | Re: Botched UltraStar Landing Assessment |
Don't pay too much attention to this post, as I've never even piloted
a Kolb -- but it sure looks to me as though the TAIL stalled, and
caused a sudden nose pitch-down. Which ANY aircraft can and will do
when it's slowed down too much.
Very bad if it's too near the ground.
Feel the aircraft out AT ALTITUDE. Fly safe!
On Mar 6, 2008, at 8:27 PM, Dana Hague wrote:
>
> At 03:24 PM 3/6/2008, jb92563 wrote:
>>
>> What did this guy do wrong on landing his UltraStar to cause gear
>> collapse?
>>
>> Review this short video clip:
>> [URL]http://www.youtube.com/v/0hqEBYcFp4k" type="application/x-
>> shockwave-flash" wmode="transparent" width="425" height="355"[/URL]
>>
>> I think he might have been going a little fast and high and
>> chopped to much power and came down hard.
>>
>> Seems like the "Fly it On" technique is the way to go instead of
>> trying to force it down without sufficient speed or power.
>
> "Kolb Quit."
>
> But seriously, he slowed it up too much, too high, and dropped it
> in. Common ultralight newby error.
>
> -Dana
> --
> "Gold cannot always get you good soldiers, but good soldiers can
> always get you gold"-- Niccolo Machiavelli
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Botched UltraStar Landing Assessment |
At 03:24 PM 3/6/2008, jb92563 wrote:
>
>What did this guy do wrong on landing his UltraStar to cause gear collapse?
>
>Review this short video clip:
>[URL]http://www.youtube.com/v/0hqEBYcFp4k"
>type="application/x-shockwave-flash" wmode="transparent" width="425"
>height="355"[/URL]
>
>I think he might have been going a little fast and high and chopped to
>much power and came down hard.
>
>Seems like the "Fly it On" technique is the way to go instead of trying to
>force it down without sufficient speed or power.
"Kolb Quit."
But seriously, he slowed it up too much, too high, and dropped it
in. Common ultralight newby error.
-Dana
--
"Gold cannot always get you good soldiers, but good soldiers can always
get you gold"-- Niccolo Machiavelli
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| Subject: | Re: Computer woes |
Now the kid is screaming at you and when you land you gonna have the wife screaming
at you.
My head already hurts from this.
Ron Txaz
do not archive
==============================
---- possums <possums@bellsouth.net> wrote:
============
At 01:40 PM 3/5/2008, you wrote:
>Bill, and group,
>
> My apologies if my posts are screwing your computer up. Sorry.
He's got dial up, so if you send anything over a "100 kb" picture, it takes
a long time to download. He doesn't have a choice of whether to download
it or not on his system - it just takes "however long it takes". Some
people can't get DLS yet.
It's better to send a smaller picture to the "email list". Try to
send it as a JPEG & resize it to
100 kb or less. That is plenty big enough for all of us. Here is a 84
kb picture
just for an example.
Take your kid to work day:
--
kugelair.com
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| Subject: | Re: Botched UltraStar Landing Assessment |
jb92563 wrote:
> What did this guy do wrong on landing his UltraStar to cause gear collapse?
>
>
Too many previous hard landings and/or a bungee gave way?????
Just an opinion ma'am.... not necessarily the facts.
--------
George Alexander
http://gtalexander.home.att.net
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=168165#168165
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| Subject: | Re: Lost mold strut faring |
Yes I do take off the plaster shape it seal it wax it then lay up the
part
Uncle craig
Do not archive
________________________________
From: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Vic Peters
Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2008 8:35 AM
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Lost mold strut faring
Just a thought. I've used Durabond 90 in the construction business. Its
drywall compound you mix yourself. It dries completly in 90 min.
I thought you had to take off the plaster or drywall mold to lay up the
first fiberglass. I can't seem to get the sequence right in my mind.
Vic
N740VP
Mike Welch
PS. Another safe layer to use, at the beginning of your build-up, that
may be quite a bit more resilient than plastic
wrap, is to use aluminum foil. NO resins will eat it away, or otherwise
seep through and get to your plane beneath.
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| Subject: | Re: Botched UltraStar Landing Assessment |
Should have been able to take that little drop. A part must have
been ready to fail.
I've dropped my (600 lb empty) MkIII lots of times at least that hard
with no damage.
-tis a stout bird.
BB
On 6, Mar 2008, at 6:44 PM, John Hauck wrote:
>
>
> > Seems like the "Fly it On" technique is the way to go instead of
> trying to force it down without sufficient speed or power.
>>
>> --------
>> Ray
>
>
> Ray:
>
> I agree with you to a point.
>
> Without sufficient flying speed, one does not have to try to force
> it down. It does that all by its self. Seemd the pilot stalled the
> aircraft high.
>
> john h
> mkIII
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: FW: Fire star |
Tim & Craig
Wow they are super. You have got to get these planes to Oshkosh. I can see
the judges now which one do we give the best LSA award to?????
I'm trying to work in a trip to Mesa around the time of Monument Valley.
Hope to see both flying.
Rick Neilsen
Redrive VW powered MKIIIC
----- Original Message -----
From: "Nelson, Craig" <craig.nelson@heraeus.com>
Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2008 8:05 PM
Subject: Kolb-List: FW: Fire star
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<<DSCN1932.JPG>>
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<<DSCN1939.JPG>> ri <<DSCN1942.JPG>> ginal Message-----
From: Nelson, Craig
Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2008 12:28 PM
Subject: Fire star
Milo tim's plane
Uncle craig
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