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1. 04:06 AM - Re: Re: Botched UltraStar Landing Assessment (pj.ladd)
2. 04:15 AM - Botched landing link (william sullivan)
3. 04:31 AM - Re: Re: Botched UltraStar Landing Assessment (Dana Hague)
4. 04:31 AM - Re: Re: Botched UltraStar Landing Assessment (Dana Hague)
5. 09:45 AM - Re: Vamoose for Sale (Ben Ransom)
6. 11:54 AM - Re: Re: Vamoose for Sale (Richard & Martha Neilsen)
7. 01:22 PM - VW Engines on Kolbs (Mike Welch)
8. 01:38 PM - Re: VW Engines on Kolbs (Mike Welch)
9. 02:15 PM - Re: VW Engines on Kolbs (Richard & Martha Neilsen)
10. 04:06 PM - Re: Re: Vamoose for Sale (Larry Bourne)
11. 05:58 PM - Re: ANR Headset Upgrade (Steven Green)
12. 07:19 PM - Flying with VGs (possums)
13. 07:33 PM - Flying with VGs (possums)
14. 07:38 PM - Flying with VGs (possums)
15. 08:33 PM - Flying with VGs (possums)
16. 08:46 PM - Flying with VGs (possums)
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| Subject: | Re: Botched UltraStar Landing Assessment |
Looks like that video had the guy holding off/flare too high and simply ran
out of airspeed while 3-4 feet off the ground.>>
Hi All
Seems that I missed the original clip of this. Can anyone put it back on or
tell me where to find it please.
Cheers
Pat
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| Subject: | Botched landing link |
Pat- Kolb List archives, March 6, message 15.
Bill Sullivan
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| Subject: | Re: Botched UltraStar Landing Assessment |
At 07:03 AM 3/12/2008, pj.ladd wrote:
>Seems that I missed the original clip of this. Can anyone put it back on
>or tell me where to find it please.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0hqEBYcFp4k
-Dana
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| Subject: | Re: Botched UltraStar Landing Assessment |
At 07:03 AM 3/12/2008, pj.ladd wrote:
>Seems that I missed the original clip of this. Can anyone put it back on
>or tell me where to find it please.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0hqEBYcFp4k
-Dana
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| Subject: | Re: Vamoose for Sale |
Hi Lar,
To refresh your memory, I'm a long time back acquaintance from Kolb life
-- and we actually met at Castle AFB once. Congrats on retirement.
Open road and a boat -- not bad! Sad to hear Vamoose will be going
elsewhere, but then there is freedom in moving on too. Besides just
wanting to say hey, I have some curiosity about Vamoose's engine. The
engine subject comes up periodically on the Murphy list. Several guys
there have put on 912S engines and love them, but the price of course
has risen beyond crazy, I believe ~20k low-value US dollars now.
Non-Murphy folks are often surprised that a 912 powered Murphy can be
built to 725 lbs empty, and they work real well with 100hp and less
weight on the nose. So, how much power -- max and sustained -- do you
figure is available from Vamoose's engine (and at what rpm)?
BTW I recently checked out your photos from touring BC. That area makes
me weak in the knees too. You have scored some magnifico whale shots,
and your web visit counter indicates your site is a best kept secret.
-Ben Ransom
Davis, CA
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| Subject: | Re: Vamoose for Sale |
Ben
I'm going to jump in here. We talked years ago about VWs and BMWs. I choose
to use the VW and have been flying VWs on my MKIIIC for six years. First it
isn't HP that moves a airplane it is thrust. Redrive VWs can be configured
to the same thrust as a 80 HP Rotax and will survive running with a 80 HP
Rotax quite well. Lars engine is a bore slightly smaller than mine 90.5mm vs
my 92mm. His plan was to run alot higher RPMs than I do so the HP and maybe
the thrust would be more like the 100HP rotax or maybe more. The problems
Lar was likely to run into would be getting rid of the heat at the higher
power and reduced reliability. You are aware Lars engine is a redrive engine
not a direct drive engine.
You reference Murphy airplanes (we are on the Kolb list) which are tractor
engine airplanes. Tractor mounted redrive VWs run smoother and cooler.
Cooler due to the big fan out front. Smoother because the prop runs in clean
air. The biggest improvement in thrust you can get would be using a large
two bladed prop with a big reduction ratio. The group that built a squadron
of WWI replica airplanes use a 8 ft prop with something like a 2 to one or
more ratio. My understanding is that they get performance close to what a
engine with twice HP would be, direct drive or maybe even a Rotax with a
standard ratio redrive.
Talk to the guys a Valley engineering/Culver Props. Be aware that a VW isn't
going to weigh less than a Rotax. Also the original engine was designed as a
36 HP so the more you ask of it the less reliable it will be. Personally 100
HP seems like too much but????
Rick Neilsen
Redrive VW powered MKIIIC
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ben Ransom" <bransom@ucdavis.edu>
Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2008 12:42 PM
Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Vamoose for Sale
>
> Hi Lar,
> To refresh your memory, I'm a long time back acquaintance from Kolb
> life -- and we actually met at Castle AFB once. Congrats on retirement.
> Open road and a boat -- not bad! Sad to hear Vamoose will be going
> elsewhere, but then there is freedom in moving on too. Besides just
> wanting to say hey, I have some curiosity about Vamoose's engine. The
> engine subject comes up periodically on the Murphy list. Several guys
> there have put on 912S engines and love them, but the price of course has
> risen beyond crazy, I believe ~20k low-value US dollars now. Non-Murphy
> folks are often surprised that a 912 powered Murphy can be built to 725
> lbs empty, and they work real well with 100hp and less weight on the nose.
> So, how much power -- max and sustained -- do you figure is available from
> Vamoose's engine (and at what rpm)?
> BTW I recently checked out your photos from touring BC. That area makes
> me weak in the knees too. You have scored some magnifico whale shots, and
> your web visit counter indicates your site is a best kept secret.
>
> -Ben Ransom
> Davis, CA
>
>
>
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| Subject: | VW Engines on Kolbs |
Rick,
I just read you "Engine details" email you posted a couple of months ago, that
I have kept in my own archives. Is there any way I could get you to post some
photos?? I'd sure like to get a look at your creation!!! It sounds VERY impresive!
Mike Welch
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| Subject: | VW Engines on Kolbs |
> Rick,
>
> I just read you "Engine details" email
Make that "your" engine details. Sheesh! I should proof-read!
Mike
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| Subject: | Re: VW Engines on Kolbs |
Mike
I have attached a few. There will be an article in the EAAs LSA Magazine,
April issue they tell me called Quest For Affordable Power that will have
more photos with the engine details and more.
I compressed these quite a bit. If you want the full sized photo or
different views let me know. I can sent them off list.
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Rick Neilsen
Redrive VW powered MKIIIC
----- Original Message -----
From: "Mike Welch" <mdnanwelch7@hotmail.com>
Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2008 4:36 PM
Subject: RE: Kolb-List: VW Engines on Kolbs
>
>
>> Rick,
>>
>> I just read you "Engine details" email
>
> Make that "your" engine details. Sheesh! I should proof-read!
>
> Mike
>
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| Subject: | Re: Vamoose for Sale |
Thanks, Ben. I do remember meeting you at Castle. That were a good air
show, and a reasonable location for a SoCal resident. (at the time)
After a lot of research, I figured on Vamoose' 2110cc engine to have
around 140 hp at 4800 rpm and 90 hp sustained at 3800 rpm. These
numbers were pretty well documented in several VW hotrod magazines at
the time I built the engine. Later experience in my 2110cc Baja Bug
tells me that Rick is probably correct about reliability at the higher
number. That engine is really howling at 4800 and I doubt I'd want to
sustain it, but my purpose there was for emergency power and it seems
that it was certainly there. On the 1st test run, Vamoose slammed a
550# scale against the stops seemingly effortlessly......before it
twisted the input shaft off the redrive. It was impressive, exciting,
and fun, sitting in the pilot's seat. With fuel injection, electronic
ignition, higher compression (figuring on using avgas) and an aggressive
cam, it makes Der Bug's engine seem calm and quiet in comparison. The
thing is brutal.
Again, going by Der Bug, (which 2110cc engine is less highly tuned) 3800
rpm is a walk. Effortless, and is really into the power band. 65 mph
is around 4,000 rpm, and it'll hum along all day. Der Bug has many
1,000's of miles now, of off road, freeway cruising and general zooming
around town and has been *almost* totally dependable. Breakdowns have
been things like clutch cable, gas cable, clutch linkage, etc., but the
engine has been flawless. It gets driven hard, almost all the time.
The thing is so much fun it's hard not to tromp on the go pedal.
I'm pleased that you enjoyed my web pages, and that you took the time to
look. I'm disappointed that so few have. The British Columbia coast is
spectacular, the experiences were certainly fun, and I enjoy seeing
others enjoy them, too. I've been in New Mexico for 16 months now,
(already ! ! ! ) and have been busy most weekends. Some are documented
in the blog in my signature, below.
I well remember your pictures of sandbar hopping and freighter strafing
and was very envious at the time. You obviously enjoy your toys,
too. Lar.
Larry Bourne
Santa Fe, NM
www.gogittum.com
www.gogittum.com/blog
Ben Ransom wrote:
>
> Hi Lar,
> To refresh your memory, I'm a long time back acquaintance from Kolb
> life -- and we actually met at Castle AFB once. Congrats on
> retirement. Open road and a boat -- not bad! Sad to hear Vamoose will
> be going elsewhere, but then there is freedom in moving on too.
> Besides just wanting to say hey, I have some curiosity about Vamoose's
> engine. The engine subject comes up periodically on the Murphy list.
> Several guys there have put on 912S engines and love them, but the
> price of course has risen beyond crazy, I believe ~20k low-value US
> dollars now. Non-Murphy folks are often surprised that a 912 powered
> Murphy can be built to 725 lbs empty, and they work real well with
> 100hp and less weight on the nose. So, how much power -- max and
> sustained -- do you figure is available from Vamoose's engine (and at
> what rpm)?
> BTW I recently checked out your photos from touring BC. That area
> makes me weak in the knees too. You have scored some magnifico whale
> shots, and your web visit counter indicates your site is a best kept
> secret.
>
> -Ben Ransom
> Davis, CA
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: ANR Headset Upgrade |
Got a chance to fly for about 45 minutes today with the adapted ANR
headset. It does a very good job. I am satisfied for now. The
longivity test begins now. How long will it last????
I had only used an ANR headset for about 30 minutes about a year ago so
I cannot compare it to any other sets.
Steven
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Shot some more videos this afternoon.
I'll keep the clips shorter - so as not to bore you all.
I mounted a new Hall ASI close to the camera.
It goes from 0 to 55 mph. They are very accurate in clean air.
It was easy to read in the original clip (32MB), but hard to see
after it was uploaded to Goggle. Guess I need to put it closer to the camera
next time.
Anyway - here is a clip flying at 25 mph at about 4200 RPM.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=8643180947591432536&hl=en
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Here is a clip flying at about 5800 RPM with the
stick pulled all the way back to the seat.
It is hard to stall with full power unless you pull
the stick back pretty quick and make it.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-8361300167482330203&hl=en
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Here is our field - it's getting kind of crowded with all the
new houses they've built next to it. But the new neighbors don't
seem to mind - so far. Just gotta watch those antennas.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=263159682459782825&hl=en
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Here's some turns at 25 - 30 mph - no stall.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=8126295785191222670&hl=en
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And the last one - a clean stall break.
But it recovers pretty quick.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-1724203084033037294&hl=en
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