---------------------------------------------------------- Kolb-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Tue 04/22/08: 33 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 01:37 AM - Re: Re: UltraStar (KolbFlyerJim@aol.com) 2. 02:52 AM - Sadler Vampire (Denny Rowe) 3. 03:07 AM - Re: Re: UltraStar (Denny Rowe) 4. 03:36 AM - Re: UltraStar (Dan Walter) 5. 03:48 AM - fuel filter (Dana Hague) 6. 04:10 AM - Re: Sadler Vampire (John Hauck) 7. 04:15 AM - Re: fuel filter (John Hauck) 8. 04:30 AM - Re: Correction (icrashrc) 9. 05:57 AM - Re: Re: Monument Valley 2008 Photo Contest (Robert Laird) 10. 07:56 AM - Re: Sadler Vampire (Jeremy Casey) 11. 09:06 AM - Re: MV Photo Contest (JetPilot) 12. 10:31 AM - Re: Re: Monument Valley 2008 Photo Contest (Richard & Martha Neilsen) 13. 11:23 AM - Re: Re: Monument Valley 2008 Photo Contest (boyd) 14. 11:23 AM - Re: Re: Monument Valley 2008 Photo Contest (boyd) 15. 11:25 AM - Re: Re: UltraStar (Ben Ransom) 16. 11:25 AM - Re: Re: Monument Valley 2008 Photo Contest (boyd) 17. 01:40 PM - Re: UltraStar (KolbFlyerJim@aol.com) 18. 01:41 PM - Re: Monument Valley 2008 Photo Contest (Kirby, Dennis CTR USAF AFMC MDA/AL) 19. 01:48 PM - Re: Monument Valley 2008 Photo Contest (Kirby, Dennis CTR USAF AFMC MDA/AL) 20. 02:03 PM - Re: Re: UltraStar (KolbFlyerJim@aol.com) 21. 02:10 PM - Re: Re: Monument Valley 2008 Photo Contest (boyd) 22. 02:12 PM - Re: Re: Homer Kolb (Richard & Martha Neilsen) 23. 03:53 PM - Sadler Vampire (robert bean) 24. 04:55 PM - Re: Re: Monument Valley 2008 Photo Contest (possums) 25. 05:58 PM - Re: Monument Valley 2008 Photo Contest (John Bickham) 26. 06:03 PM - Dead Stick Video (N111KX (Kip)) 27. 06:04 PM - Re: Re: Monument Valley 2008 Photo Contest (Steven Green) 28. 06:27 PM - Crossing Sandia Mt.? (Steven Green) 29. 06:33 PM - Re: Re: Monument Valley 2008 Photo Contest (Richard & Martha Neilsen) 30. 07:32 PM - mark 111 engine thrust line (ross richardson) 31. 08:07 PM - Re: Dead Stick Video (JetPilot) 32. 08:23 PM - Re: Re: Monument Valley 2008 Photo Contest (Larry Cottrell) 33. 11:23 PM - Re: Dead Stick Video (Luke) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 01:37:38 AM PST US From: KolbFlyerJim@aol.com Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: UltraStar HI Dana. I have chatted with Mr Kolb about my plane and he is ok with the 503. Jim In a message dated 4/21/2008 7:55:10 P.M. Central Daylight Time, d-m-hague@comcast.net writes: At 06:59 PM 4/21/2008, KolbFlyerJim@aol.com wrote: My UltraStar is in good condition the motor has 175 hrs on a 300 hr rebuild. I have installed a Fire Star nose full instrumentation, ASI dual EGT,CHT,IVSI,ALT, Fuel gauge,slip indicator,Tinny teach, lighted dash.The engine is a Rot ax 503... I have done 120 IAS in Straight and level... An UltraStar with a 503??? Sounds more like a RocketStar! Isn't Vne for the US only 70? But seriously, did you beef it up at all? Funny, just last night I was browsing some archive messages about an early 5 rib FS with a 503, and many were saying it was overloaded and unsafe with that much power. Seems a US would be even more so. -Dana -- Celebrate Freedom... read a banned book. (http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kolb-List) (http://www.matronics.com/contribution) **************Need a new ride? Check out the largest site for U.S. used car listings at AOL Autos. (http://autos.aol.com/used?NCID=aolcmp00300000002851) ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 02:52:33 AM PST US From: "Denny Rowe" Subject: Kolb-List: Sadler Vampire John, I agree the Kolb fits our needs better, but your description brought back memories of the Vampire when it first came out in the early eighties. I always thought it would become a lot more popular than it did, but it will never match a Kolb for off airport opps. Denny PS: I hope they get their crap together and have some success with the Vampire as it is a very interesting a bird that has never seemed to fulfill its potential. What engine did they have on it at Lakeland John? > Yes, there was a single and a two place in the UL area at Lakeland this > year. > > The two place flew once during the week. Was roughly built and > underpowered. Barely got out of 1500 feet of sod. > > I remember when Sadler introduced the single place many years ago. > > I'll stick to my tried and true Kolb. > > john h > mkIII > > > -- > Date: 4/21/2008 4:23 PM > > ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 03:07:42 AM PST US From: "Denny Rowe" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: UltraStar HI Dana. I have chatted with Mr Kolb about my plane and he is ok with the 503. Jim Jim, The nicest Ultrastar I ever saw was 503 powerd and had beefed up landing gear and I'm sure other mods. I saw it years ago at a fly in in Eastern Ohio, it was built and owned by a fellow named Tom Tchantz (spelling?) and I think he won a major award at Oshkosh that same summer. He later sold it and I always wonder if its still around. It was a true work of art and every Ultrastar owner shoul get a chance to look it over for ideas. Should be some nice layouts of it in old EAA rags. Denny Rowe, ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 03:36:56 AM PST US From: "Dan Walter" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: UltraStar Jim, How about posting a picture of the plane and 503 installation? Where are you located? Dan Walter Druine Turbulent, Ultrastar Do Not Archive ----- Original Message ----- From: KolbFlyerJim@aol.com To: kolb-list@matronics.com Sent: Monday, April 21, 2008 5:46 AM Subject: Kolb-List: UltraStar Hi all Jim here I'm thinking of selling my Ultra Star. Any suggestions or comments? ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----- ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 03:48:34 AM PST US From: Dana Hague Subject: Kolb-List: fuel filter Somewhere (I'm not sure where) there was a discussion of the Purolator glass tube fuel filters and a mention that they should be safety wired... but I'm not clear how. Does anybody have details? -Dana -- It feels great to wake up and not know what day it is, doesn't it? ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 04:10:09 AM PST US From: "John Hauck" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Sadler Vampire . > What engine did they have on it at Lakeland John? Denny: I don't know. I was not interested enough in it to inquire. The two place looked really shabby. john h mkIII ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 04:15:49 AM PST US From: "John Hauck" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: fuel filter > Somewhere (I'm not sure where) there was a discussion of the Purolator > glass tube fuel filters and a mention that they should be safety wired... > but I'm not clear how. Does anybody have details? > > -Dana Dana: I have used the same Purolator fuel filter on my US, FS, and MKIII. Never used safety wire on it. However, after the first glass cylinder cracked the first night it was on the US, allowing all the fuel to leak out of the bottom tank, I replaced the glass cylinder with a piece of .058 aluminum tubing of the appropriate size. I like this filter because I can change elements in the field, easy to carry spares, or as a last resort, clean a dirty element well enough to get me to a place where I can obtain some new ones. john h mkIII ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 04:30:02 AM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Correction From: "icrashrc" At Homers current working pace soon there'll be no secret to keep! -------- Scott www.ill-EagleAviation.com do not archive Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=178406#178406 ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 05:57:03 AM PST US From: "Robert Laird" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Monument Valley 2008 Photo Contest Yeow! Sandia Peak is 10,678 feet, and the Crest is at 9,702 feet... You were at 7,640 and losing altitude? How'd you drill through the rock? :-) -- Robert On Mon, Apr 21, 2008 at 9:36 PM, Steven Green wrote: > This can fit into the catagory of "picture of Kolb aircraft" (enroute to > MV if that counts). Just above my ASI and just below the crest of Sandia > Mountain is John Hauck. If you look at the instruments you will notice it's > pretty well balls to the wall to get over the mountain in mild turbulance. > > -- There are 10 types of people in this world: those who understand binary and those who don't. ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 07:56:49 AM PST US From: Jeremy Casey <1planeguy@kilocharlie.us> Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Sadler Vampire Denny Rowe wrote: > > John, > I agree the Kolb fits our needs better, but your description brought > back memories of the Vampire when it first came out in the early > eighties. I always thought it would become a lot more popular than it > did, but it will never match a Kolb for off airport opps. > > Denny > PS: I hope they get their crap together and have some success with the > Vampire as it is a very interesting a bird that has never seemed to > fulfill its potential. > What engine did they have on it at Lakeland John? > > > Not John, but I'll answer. They were running some sort of rotary engine...dual rotor. I never saw them fly it...it looked real heavy (and rough as John mentioned) and not much wing. Was one of those examples of a company I'd never write a check to. If they are so short of capital that they can't make a decent looking demo plane, I fear for getting what I pay for. That being said, I've always thought the Vampire (single place) was a very interesting design. Jeremy > > ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 09:06:26 AM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Re: MV Photo Contest From: "JetPilot" That is a great picture ! Can you post or send a bigger version of it John ? I would like to have one to keep and show friends. Mike -------- "NO FEAR" - If you have no fear you did not go as fast as you could have !!! Kolb MK-III Xtra, 912-S Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=178475#178475 ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 10:31:07 AM PST US From: "Richard & Martha Neilsen" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Monument Valley 2008 Photo Contest I took this from Dave Rains plane at MV2005. I think Dave should get the award for the most rides given. The smiles on all the kids that got out of his plane after their ride was priceless. I'm not sure I even met that drifter pilot at least not before he took aim at me. What really hurt was his comment...."Wow I almost hit that girl". Rick Neilsen Redrive VW powered MKIIIC ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 11:23:15 AM PST US From: "boyd" Subject: RE: Kolb-List: Re: Monument Valley 2008 Photo Contest Picture of Rainbow Bridge during a flight from MV Boyd Young Kolb MKIIIC Brigham City Ut. ________________________________ Message 14 ____________________________________ Time: 11:23:59 AM PST US From: "boyd" Subject: RE: Kolb-List: Re: Monument Valley 2008 Photo Contest Balancing rock at Mexican Hat Boyd Young Kolb MKIIIC Brigham City, Ut. ________________________________ Message 15 ____________________________________ Time: 11:25:00 AM PST US From: Ben Ransom Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: UltraStar An ultrastar with a 503 is beyond design spec by a lot -- that plane wasn't even spec'd for a 447. I will acknowledge that a 5 rib original Firestar wing is not a lot different than a 5 rib Ultrastar wing, but again, Dennis of old Kolb made a new wing (7 rib) to accommodate the interest in a 503. But then the E means Experimental, and to each his own. (Any weight needed on the nose to compensate for a 92 lb engine?) Then about the 120 indicated, straight and level. Even if the straight and level was after a fast dive, I just can't fathom anything over 90, unless the wings were missing at that point. Recall that the ultrastar is what Dennis flight tested to destruction, in which a wing drag strut failed coming out of an intentional dive at about 80, and just the dive (let alone the broken wing) frightened even him in his younger invincible life. So, how far from stock are the wings on this thing? Or, am I just flying my Firestar like a little old lady? -Ben FS KXP KolbFlyerJim@aol.com wrote: > HI Ray. > > Jim here. > My UltraStar is in good condition the motor has 175 hrs on a 300 hr > rebuild. I have installed a Fire Star nose full instrumentation, ASI > dual EGT,CHT,IVSI,ALT, Fuel gauge,slip indicator,Tinny teach, lighted > dash.The engine is a Rot ax 503 D.C.SI with a 2.58-1 gearbox turning a > 54 in IVO. She has a Quad strobe system (they call me the flying > Christmas Tree) She has disc brakes and an unusual differential > braking control witch acts as a parking brake.She has 8 inch rims with > TUNDRA tires. Some how I have acquired the nickname of the scudd. I > have extended the landing gear to give me more prop Clarence but you > know how it goes I have increased the prop size to 54 in. ( shouldn't > say this but I have done 120 IAS in Straight and level flight not on > purpose tho). She is registered as an E.L.S.A and has an airworthiness > cert. She will climb at 1000 FPM at 40 Indicated . She fly's like a > dream. She has a 9 gallon fuel tank. She cruses at 60-65 at 4700 > RPM(what did forget?)????? > > Jim VanGarsse > 2613 M > BelvidereIll@aol.com > > In a message dated 4/21/2008 3:01:37 P.M. Central Daylight Time, > jb92563@yahoo.com writes: > > > What condition is it in? > > How is the motor? > > How did you like flying it? > > Does it still meet Part 103 Ultralight specs? > > -------- > Ray > > Kolb UltraStar (Cuyuna UL-202) > Moni MotorGlider > Schreder HP-11 Glider > Riverside County, CA > > Do Not Archive > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=178228#178228 > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Need a new ride? Check out the largest site for U.S. used car listings > at AOL Autos . > * > > > * ________________________________ Message 16 ____________________________________ Time: 11:25:35 AM PST US From: "boyd" Subject: RE: Kolb-List: Re: Monument Valley 2008 Photo Contest Ok I had to make changes in order to meet the qualifications. Flying formation with Erich Weaver through the rocks. Boyd Young Kolb MKIIIC Brigham City UT. ________________________________ Message 17 ____________________________________ Time: 01:40:35 PM PST US From: KolbFlyerJim@aol.com Subject: Re: Kolb-List: UltraStar Hi Dan. Jim here. I have several pics on matronics picture list I'm not sure to get there she is the ivory UltraStar with the Fire Star nose I'm in northern Illinois. Thanks Jim In a message dated 4/22/2008 5:37:23 A.M. Central Daylight Time, worrybear@verizon.net writes: Jim, How about posting a picture of the plane and 503 installation? Where are you located? Dan Walter Druine Turbulent, UltraStar Do Not Archive ----- Original Message ----- From: _KolbFlyerJim@aol.com_ (mailto:KolbFlyerJim@aol.com) Sent: Monday, April 21, 2008 5:46 AM Subject: Kolb-List: UltraStar Hi all Jim here I'm thinking of selling my Ultra Star. Any suggestions or comments? ____________________________________ (http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kolb-List) (http://www.matronics.com/contribution) **************Need a new ride? Check out the largest site for U.S. used car listings at AOL Autos. (http://autos.aol.com/used?NCID=aolcmp00300000002851) ________________________________ Message 18 ____________________________________ Time: 01:41:51 PM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Monument Valley 2008 Photo Contest From: "Kirby, Dennis CTR USAF AFMC MDA/AL" "Flight of Two over MV, May 2007" Photo by Arty Trost. (The wingtip of her Drifter is visible in this picture.) Dennis Kirby Cedar Crest, NM <> ________________________________ Message 19 ____________________________________ Time: 01:48:28 PM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Monument Valley 2008 Photo Contest From: "Kirby, Dennis CTR USAF AFMC MDA/AL" "Who's ready to go Fly Again?" Many of you might recognize this picture. It was featured in the Nov 2007 issue of EAA's "Light Sport Aircraft" magazine, as part of an article one of our guys submitted to the magazine about our annual Kolb event at MV. Dennis Kirby Cedar Crest, NM <> ________________________________ Message 20 ____________________________________ Time: 02:03:18 PM PST US From: KolbFlyerJim@aol.com Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: UltraStar Hi Ben. I have talked to Homer about this installation at length and he is ok with what I have done I normally cruse at 60 indicated at 4600-4700 rpm. I have had her for 4 years and 100 plus hours a season I need to move up to an all season plane. The 120 was done half way down the 2800 ft runway at 20 foot off the deck just after taking off I didn't do it on purpose just forgot to throttle down after take off. Thanks Jim In a message dated 4/22/2008 1:25:43 P.M. Central Daylight Time, bransom@ucdavis.edu writes: --> Kolb-List message posted by: Ben Ransom An UltraStar with a 503 is beyond design spec by a lot -- that plane wasn't even spec'd for a 447. I will acknowledge that a 5 rib original Firestar wing is not a lot different than a 5 rib Ultrastar wing, but again, Dennis of old Kolb made a new wing (7 rib) to accommodate the interest in a 503. But then the E means Experimental, and to each his own. (Any weight needed on the nose to compensate for a 92 lb engine?) Then about the 120 indicated, straight and level. Even if the straight and level was after a fast dive, I just can't fathom anything over 90, unless the wings were missing at that point. Recall that the ultrastar is what Dennis flight tested to destruction, in which a wing drag strut failed coming out of an intentional dive at about 80, and just the dive (let alone the broken wing) frightened even him in his younger invincible life. So, how far from stock are the wings on this thing? Or, am I just flying my Firestar like a little old lady? -Ben FS KXP KolbFlyerJim@aol.com wrote: > HI Ray. > > Jim here. > My UltraStar is in good condition the motor has 175 hrs on a 300 hr > rebuild. I have installed a Fire Star nose full instrumentation, ASI > dual EGT,CHT,IVSI,ALT, Fuel gauge,slip indicator,Tinny teach, lighted > dash.The engine is a Rot ax 503 D.C.SI with a 2.58-1 gearbox turning a > 54 in IVO. She has a Quad strobe system (they call me the flying > Christmas Tree) She has disc brakes and an unusual differential > braking control witch acts as a parking brake.She has 8 inch rims with > TUNDRA tires. Some how I have acquired the nickname of the scudd. I > have extended the landing gear to give me more prop Clarence but you > know how it goes I have increased the prop size to 54 in. ( shouldn't > say this but I have done 120 IAS in Straight and level flight not on > purpose tho). She is registered as an E.L.S.A and has an airworthiness > cert. She will climb at 1000 FPM at 40 Indicated . She fly's like a > dream. She has a 9 gallon fuel tank. She cruses at 60-65 at 4700 > RPM(what did forget?)????? > > Jim VanGarsse > 2613 M > BelvidereIll@aol.com > > In a message dated 4/21/2008 3:01:37 P.M. Central Daylight Time, > jb92563@yahoo.com writes: > > --> Kolb-List message posted by: "jb92563" > > What condition is it in? > > How is the motor? > > How did you like flying it? > > Does it still meet Part 103 Ultralight specs? > > -------- > Ray > > Kolb UltraStar (Cuyuna UL-202) > Moni MotorGlider > Schreder HP-11 Glider > Riverside County, CA > > Do Not Archive > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=178228#178228 > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Need a new ride? Check out the largest site for U.S. used car listings > at AOL Autos . > * > > > * **************Need a new ride? Check out the largest site for U.S. used car listings at AOL Autos. (http://autos.aol.com/used?NCID=aolcmp00300000002851) ________________________________ Message 21 ____________________________________ Time: 02:10:51 PM PST US From: "boyd" Subject: RE: Kolb-List: Re: Monument Valley 2008 Photo Contest Flight line at MV. Boyd Young Kolb MKIIIC Brigham City Ut. ________________________________ Message 22 ____________________________________ Time: 02:12:36 PM PST US From: "Richard & Martha Neilsen" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Homer Kolb Larry I met Mike(JetPilot) at Sun N Fun this year. He was a very pleasant person to talk to. Do Not Archive Rick Neilsen Redrive VW powered MKIIIC ----- Original Message ----- From: "Larry Cottrell" Sent: Monday, April 21, 2008 1:14 PM Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Homer Kolb > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "JetPilot" >> That dual prop setup on a small gas engine is nothing short of stupid, >> overly complicated, prone to failure, and dangerous. > > > Just wondering, are you coming to MV this year? I for one would like to > see if you are that abrasive in person. > > Larry C > do not archive > > > ________________________________ Message 23 ____________________________________ Time: 03:53:49 PM PST US From: robert bean Subject: Kolb-List: Sadler Vampire An example of what you can accomplish with a pusher prop: This is "laminar magic" certified record holder with a single boom, pusher engine. 25 hp, 498 lbs gross (including pilot) 126.7 MPH Note Steve Wittman wingtips BB Not much room for camping gear though John. pastedGraphic
________________________________ Message 24 ____________________________________ Time: 04:55:40 PM PST US From: possums Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Monument Valley 2008 Photo Contest You guys can practice flying thru Monument Valley for free if you download the new GoogleEarth4.3 beta. Just enter "Monument Valley" & it will take you to Golding's Place. Take a tour at: http://earth.google.com/tour.html Some shots prom the program. ________________________________ Message 25 ____________________________________ Time: 05:58:04 PM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Monument Valley 2008 Photo Contest From: "John Bickham" If someone has of picture of Rick taking evasive maneuvers from the Drifter, I think that could take this thing. [Laughing] -------- Thanks too much, John Bickham Mark III-C "Using my Repairman Certificate" St. Francisville, LA Do not archive. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=178567#178567 ________________________________ Message 26 ____________________________________ Time: 06:03:18 PM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Dead Stick Video From: "N111KX (Kip)" Hello, all. It's been a while but I have busy in the shop with the Waiex. I've logged 750+ hours with the wings and most of the fuse done. Hopefully it will be on the gear in a week or so and flying sometime in the fall or winter. My Firestar still gets plenty of attention and even has a Quickie 1 as a hangar mate (which will be restored when the Waiex is done). I tried to post this video a while back but was unsucessful but then Youtube came along. I forget how high I was but 3000' sounds about right. Anyway, here is some summer quiet flying... http://youtube.com/watch?v=qDrq_VTPtA4 Kip -------- Kip Firestar II (born September 2000) Atlanta, GA N111KX Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=178570#178570 ________________________________ Message 27 ____________________________________ Time: 06:04:46 PM PST US From: "Steven Green" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Monument Valley 2008 Photo Contest Robert, There was some mild turbulence and at the moment I snapped the picture I was descending but that was just for a moment. I had no trouble getting across. Steven ----- Original Message ----- From: Robert Laird To: kolb-list@matronics.com Sent: Tuesday, April 22, 2008 8:54 AM Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Monument Valley 2008 Photo Contest Yeow! Sandia Peak is 10,678 feet, and the Crest is at 9,702 feet... You were at 7,640 and losing altitude? How'd you drill through the rock? :-) -- Robert ________________________________ Message 28 ____________________________________ Time: 06:27:35 PM PST US From: "Steven Green" Subject: Kolb-List: Crossing Sandia Mt.? Robert, We were south of the peak a few miles. My terminology, using "crest" loosely, mislead you. Sorry. It is obvious that I was already high enough at 7640' to clear this southern portion of Sandia mountain ahead of us. John H. and his "steel trap" memory can correct me if I am confused on where I think we were. Steven do not archive Robert, There was some mild turbulence and at the moment I snapped the picture I was descending but that was just for a moment. I had no trouble getting across. Steven ----- Original Message ----- From: Robert Laird To: kolb-list@matronics.com Sent: Tuesday, April 22, 2008 8:54 AM Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Monument Valley 2008 Photo Contest Yeow! Sandia Peak is 10,678 feet, and the Crest is at 9,702 feet... You were at 7,640 and losing altitude? How'd you drill through the rock? :-) -- Robert ________________________________ Message 29 ____________________________________ Time: 06:33:39 PM PST US From: "Richard & Martha Neilsen" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Monument Valley 2008 Photo Contest I have a video of that very thing. A stranger was shooting video and sent a copy to Larry C and he sent me a copy. There is a copy on Utube some where also. It looks like I ducked after the plane went over me. I had the camera up taking a series of photos not realizing how close it was. It could have been bad. I really was way off the runway. If there are any drifters there this year I'm going to shoot from behind the fence. Do Not Archive Rick Neilsen Redrive VW powered MKIIIC ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Bickham" Sent: Tuesday, April 22, 2008 8:55 PM Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Monument Valley 2008 Photo Contest > > If someone has of picture of Rick taking evasive maneuvers from the > Drifter, I think that could take this thing. > > [Laughing] > > -------- > Thanks too much, > > John Bickham > Mark III-C > "Using my Repairman Certificate" > St. Francisville, LA > > Do not archive. > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=178567#178567 > > > ________________________________ Message 30 ____________________________________ Time: 07:32:32 PM PST US From: ross richardson Subject: Kolb-List: mark 111 engine thrust line Has any one played with changing the thrust ine with the 912UL? Any informa tion to this subject would be a grat help. The more I learn I realize how l ittle I know and am not to proud to ask and then make up my mind as to what to do. When I bought the plane the 582 had been replaced with a 912UL. The plane f lew great and did every thing I had hoped for but the set up was a shade tr ee set up. To meet the inspection requirerments for the AP the factory moun t set up was installed along with several other things. The plane flys okey but not like it use to. They had shimed the engine to change the thrust li ne which gave it a better rate of climb and great on short field take offs and landings. As a rule I take photos before and after ( age has made menor y shorter) but didn't this time as I was pressed for time to get it inspect ed for LSA. > Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2008 14:26:30 -0700> From: firestar503@yaho o.com> Subject: Kolb-List: Kolb wanted> To: kolb-list@matronics.com> > --> Kolb-List message posted by: Jon LaVasseur > > Hello from Minnesota.> > I am trying to help a friend find a good used> Kolb Fir estarII or MK3. If you know of any> decent Kolbs out side of regular channe ls like> Barnstormers, please email me.> > Thanks,> Jon LaVasseur> > > Be a better friend, newshound, and > know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now ====================> > > ________________________________ Message 31 ____________________________________ Time: 08:07:21 PM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Dead Stick Video From: "JetPilot" Kip, That is a great video, I hope you post many more ! That gyro-copter did some incredible tight turns over the runway, especially the landing... The shot down of the runway between your feet was nest, I would like to see more out of the gyro-copter, and maybe a couple pictures of it, I did not realize how small it was until I saw your feet. Mike -------- "NO FEAR" - If you have no fear you did not go as fast as you could have !!! Kolb MK-III Xtra, 912-S Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=178598#178598 ________________________________ Message 32 ____________________________________ Time: 08:23:44 PM PST US From: "Larry Cottrell" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Monument Valley 2008 Photo Contest > > I have a video of that very thing. A stranger was shooting video and sent > a copy to Larry C and he sent me a copy. There is a copy on Utube some > where also. It looks like I ducked after the plane went over me. I had the > camera up taking a series of photos not realizing how close it was. It > could have been bad. I really was way off the runway. If there are any > drifters there this year I'm going to shoot from behind the fence. > > Do Not Archive > You were lucky, he only got one shot at you. I had to fly back with him all the way to Wells Nev. At that spot I got lucky and he convinced Arty that going north through Idaho was a better route. I hated to see Arty go, but it was a relief to not have to deal with him any more. I made it home in four hours, while it took them two days to get home. Some people make you happy when they come, others when they go! Larry C ________________________________ Message 33 ____________________________________ Time: 11:23:03 PM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Dead Stick Video From: "Luke" That was a great video. I really like the viewing angle you were able to get from it. do not archive -------- "The LORD is a warrior; the LORD is his name." 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