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1. 04:18 AM - Re: Sadler Vampire (icrashrc)
2. 06:02 AM - Re: Dead Stick Video (Ralph B)
3. 06:08 AM - Re: Monument Valley 2008 Photo Contest (George Alexander)
4. 07:24 AM - Re: Dead Stick Video (grantr)
5. 07:30 AM - Shipping a BRS??? (grantr)
6. 07:40 AM - Introduction, and dual time in NC or CO? (Luke)
7. 08:47 AM - Re: Shipping a BRS??? (N27SB@aol.com)
8. 09:09 AM - Re: Monument Valley 2008 Photo Contest (John Williamson)
9. 09:32 AM - Re: Re: Monument Valley 2008 Photo Contest (Richard & Martha Neilsen)
10. 09:35 AM - Wing design and other stuff (Mike Welch)
11. 09:36 AM - Re: Shipping a BRS??? (Mike Welch)
12. 10:31 AM - Re: Monument Valley 2008 Photo Contest (John Williamson)
13. 10:35 AM - Re: Monument Valley 2008 Photo Contest (John Williamson)
14. 10:38 AM - Re: Monument Valley 2008 Photo Contest (John Williamson)
15. 11:04 AM - Re: Monument Valley 2008 Photo Contest (WillUribe@aol.com)
16. 11:11 AM - Re: Monument Valley 2008 Photo Contest (WillUribe@aol.com)
17. 11:19 AM - Re: Monument Valley 2008 Photo Contest (John Williamson)
18. 11:57 AM - Re: Shipping a BRS??? (N27SB@aol.com)
19. 12:24 PM - Re: Shipping a BRS??? (N27SB@aol.com)
20. 12:27 PM - Re: Shipping a BRS??? (N27SB@aol.com)
21. 12:34 PM - Serial Number (Jack B. Hart)
22. 12:40 PM - Re: expert in everything (cristalclear13)
23. 12:49 PM - Re: Serial Number (N27SB@aol.com)
24. 01:26 PM - Re: Re: Monument Valley 2008 Photo Contest (Russ Kinne)
25. 02:26 PM - Re: Monument Valley 2008 Photo Contest (WillUribe@aol.com)
26. 02:37 PM - Re: Shipping a BRS??? (chris davis)
27. 04:14 PM - Re: Re: Monument Valley 2008 Photo Contest (Richard & Martha Neilsen)
28. 04:22 PM - Re: Shipping a BRS??? (Mike Welch)
29. 04:32 PM - Re: Monument Valley 2008 Photo Contest (WillUribe@aol.com)
30. 05:16 PM - Sun N Fun 2008 (Richard & Martha Neilsen)
31. 06:00 PM - Re: Re: Monument Valley 2008 Photo Contest (Ed Chmielewski)
32. 06:19 PM - Re: Serial Number (Jack B. Hart)
33. 06:24 PM - Re: Re: Monument Valley 2008 Photo Contest (Dana Hague)
34. 06:24 PM - Re: Re: Monument Valley 2008 Photo Contest (Dana Hague)
35. 07:21 PM - Re: Re: Serial Number (TK)
36. 07:24 PM - Re: Re: Monument Valley 2008 Photo Contest (Larry Cottrell)
37. 07:27 PM - Re: Sun N Fun 2008 (Flycrazy8@aol.com)
38. 07:35 PM - Re: Sun N Fun 2008 (N27SB@aol.com)
39. 07:38 PM - Re: Re: Monument Valley 2008 Photo Contest (TK)
40. 08:00 PM - Re: Re: Monument Valley 2008 Photo Contest (boyd)
41. 08:13 PM - Re: Shipping a BRS??? (Flycrazy8@aol.com)
42. 08:28 PM - Re: Dead Stick Video (N111KX (Kip))
43. 09:12 PM - Re: Wing design and other stuff (JetPilot)
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| Subject: | Re: Sadler Vampire |
I think the Vampire had a Rotomax 2 rotor Wankel in it. 110 or 120 horsepower @
WOT. It was certainly not an airframe i would have taken to an airport, let alone
S-n-F.
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| Subject: | Re: Dead Stick Video |
Excellent Kip!
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Ralph
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21 years flying it
Kolbra 912UL
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0 years flying it
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| Subject: | Re: Monument Valley 2008 Photo Contest |
NeilsenRM(at)comcast.net wrote:
> I have a video of that very thing.
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> Rick Neilsen
> Redrive VW powered MKIIIC
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On Google Video
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-1486764191680773505
Rick was moving so fast, it's a little difficult to pick him out.
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| Subject: | Re: Dead Stick Video |
That gyro is for sale. I saw him fly it last year at a flyin . It was very impressive.
http://www.rotaryforum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=16662
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| Subject: | Shipping a BRS??? |
I see a few BRSs that I am interested in however no one will ship them and they
are too far away from me to get.
How can a used BRS be shipped? If I order a new one I am sure it will shipped to
me.
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| Subject: | Introduction, and dual time in NC or CO? |
Howdy all! long time lurker/newbie around here. Just wanted to give you all a little
background on myself.
When I was in junior/senior high school I was actively involved in my local Civil
Air Patrol and was able to earn my solo license in a Cessna 172P. Tried to
continue on for my private pilots license but the cost of training on a 17 year
old's budget just didn't cut it!
I joined the Army when I was 19 and have been deployed to Iraq, and am currently
finishing up a 15 month deployment in Afghanistan. I'll be getting out of the
Army this summer, and will hopefully be starting gunsmithing school in the spring
of 2009. Flying has been a long time interest of mine and I would love to
get back into it! I've extensively researched all types of ultralights, LSA,
etc. and I've pretty much come to the decision that if I do start flying again
it's going to be in a Kolb. I currently can not afford to buy one, so that brings
me to my question. I'm looking to see if there is anyone located in/near
North Carolina, or Colorado, that could give me a little test flight or some
dual time? It's been about 6 years since I did any flying so I'd really enjoy
to get my feet wet again and actually see a Kolb up close and personal - I've
been drooling over pictures for a long time :)
I really enjoy reading all the information you all have to offer on this forum.
Thanks!
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| Subject: | Re: Shipping a BRS??? |
Grant, the parachute assembly can be shipped any way you like, but the
rocket motor has to be shipped by a facility that is permitted to ship
explosives. You might consider buying a BRS at a good price and have them ship
just
the chute. Then buy a new rocket assy. from BRS. That would make sense
especially if the rocket is out of date.
steve
In a message dated 4/23/2008 10:30:58 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,
grant_richardson25@yahoo.com writes:
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "grantr" <grant_richardson25@yahoo.com>
I see a few BRSs that I am interested in however no one will ship them and
they are too far away from me to get.
How can a used BRS be shipped? If I order a new one I am sure it will
shipped to me.
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| Subject: | Re: Monument Valley 2008 Photo Contest |
We say that our event is "Unplanned and Unorganized" but have never said is is
without some kind of excitement.
It is scarier to watch the video than it was to watch it in person.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-1486764191680773505
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| Subject: | Re: Monument Valley 2008 Photo Contest |
John W
It depends on your point of view....
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Rick Neilsen
Redrive VW Powered MKIIIC
----- Original Message -----
From: "John Williamson" <kolbrapilot1@tx.rr.com>
Sent: Wednesday, April 23, 2008 12:07 PM
Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Monument Valley 2008 Photo Contest
> <kolbrapilot1@tx.rr.com>
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> We say that our event is "Unplanned and Unorganized" but have never said
> is is without some kind of excitement.
>
> It is scarier to watch the video than it was to watch it in person.
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| Subject: | Wing design and other stuff |
Kolb guys,
Hey, did I mention I am making MY OWN fiberglass wing tips? I liked the progress
report John H had shared with us, on the MkIII Xtra's flight data. It
appears that by adding droop tips, the Xtra's stall speed dropped by about 4 mph.
To 26 mph!!! Plus, he felt like he had better control authority of the ailerons
at slower airspeeds.
First of all, it was NOT my preference to make them. I checked with Donnie
at TNK, and he said their's may not be be ready to sell for 6+ weeks (maybe more,
who knows?). I can't wait. I need them now. I am ready to begin covering
my wings, and prefer not to wait.
Some background and reasons why they are a good idea:
If you take a look at the outer three feet of most MkIII wings (without tips),
it seems fairly obvious why this would be an area of concern. Several airflow
issues come to mind. I'll explain...
First, and most obvious, air will travel the path of least resistance. Duh.
Right? So, as air is traveling rearward during flight under the wing, rather
than continue inline with all the other compressed air, the air near the tip
will prefer to "spill" off. The idea seems kind of intuitive, IMO.
If you think about it, as you force a canted airfoil into the wind, air is being
compressed as it piles up against the lower surface. Plus, the further rearward
you go, the more the compression, due to a combination of accumulated air,
from the front....increasing all the way to the back (see lower drawing). In
other words, in the front, you have "front" air. In the middle, you have "front
and middle" air. At the rear, you have "front, middle, and rear air"....all
trying to get past the airfoil (see drawing below to see what I'm getting
at). Clearly, some of the air near the outer edge will prefer to "jump ship",
and divert out to the undisturbed air beyond the wing.
Secondly, the top of the wing has that "rounded off" shape. It, too, appears
that as air is trying to go over the top of the wing's outer two feet, there
is some preference for the air to "fall" off the bump, away from the wing. By
it's design, there is a perpendicular (a sideways) vector component to passing
air. It also seems intuitive that if you watched the air (smoke) pass over
the outer portion of the wing, some will spill off the top toward the direction
away from the wing.
And then there's the 1" leading edge tube. This is a fairly large tube to be
ramming through the air. It has a large curve that connects the leading edge
to the wing's outer side edge. By it's shape, this leading edge "curve" is pushing
air away from the wing. How much? Don't know. But, it darn sure is "some".
Keep in mind all this diminished airflow is going on near the outer tip. This
the place where you DON'T want it to happen!!! You would prefer to keep ALL
the air that goes under the wing to remain under the wing, until it passes beyond
the aileron.
My ailerons are just under 6 feet long. My outer wing panel is just OVER 3 feet
wide!! This tells me that over half of my aileron is less efficient than
it could be. At the place you want the most air, for aileron control, you are
losing some. Undoubedly, this is why some fliers claim their ailerons are "sloppy"
at slower airspeeds. Of course, slower air will give less control, but
it doesn't help to be giving up some control authority to "losing air".
For those of you high on your math skills, you do recall that air's effect (and
drag) is determined by it's airspeed. Specifically, by it's square of the
velocity. In other words, a wing travelling at 40 mph will have a certain performance
level (and, or drag). That same wing will have 1/4th of it's performance
at 20!! Or, said another way, as you double the airspeed, you quadruple
it's effect, or...as you cut in half your airspeed, you reduce your control to
only 25%.
This is huge!!! When you couple this concept with the fact you are "giving up"
some of your air, due to the wing's design, well, that is not good!!
By the way, this math formula applies to MANY MANY other aspect of life, including
impacts. An airplane that crashes at 50 mph will have 4 times that impact
an airplane at 25 mph has!! If you don't think that is a big deal, try crashing
at 25 mph in a plane. I did. As bad as I hurt, there is NO way I would
have lived if the impact was 4 times as great.
Back to the droop wing tips. By designing a wing tip that is able to keep
all this air under the wing, and not produce any negative drag concerns, you can
improve the aileron's slow airspeed performance. In essence, all you are doing
is placing an aerodynamic "dam" at the wing tip's outer edge. Of course,
only a wind-tunnel will show you how effective your particular design is, but
for the most part, a basic droop tip should be a huge improvement.
Considering the results posted by John H. regarding the new Kolb company's Xtra,
I would say that was "huge". Stall speed reduced from 30 mph to 26 mph.
That's well over 10% slower stall speed, and that means safety.
For any questions, pictures, etc, contact me directly. I am almost finished
making the "plugs". (These are my sculpted shapes, once they are finished I
will make molds from them). I ordered all the fiberglassing products that I
don't have on hand yesterday. Things like wax, gel coat, etc.)
BTW, all this wing tip modification required taking off the existing "stock"
shape wing tip, and building a special end rib. I now have 13' 7" of straight
airfoil, per side, and then the droop tips begin. How did I handle the fact
that the 6" tube spar ended at out 30" short?? I built a chromoly truss. Not
very heavy and gawd-aweful strong!!! It looks a lot like the tube reinforcements
we slid into the spars and boom tubes. Phenominally strong!!! (Plus,
of course, all the usual aluminum tubes for triangulation.......)
I know this modification isn't for everyone, but I, for one, like the performance,
the looks, and the added styling droop tips add. Besides, they purdy!
I have kept a fairly detailed photo log of the process. I'm not finished,
yet, so if anyone wants any additional information, I will wait until I'm finished
before send out stuff, drawings, photos, etc.
BTW, I talked to a guy yesterday that makes all the products you'd ever need
for fiberglassing work. He has a auction site site on eBay ,just for showing
his countless
"how to" videos. You want to see tons and tons of demonstration videos on fiberglassing
products, check out eBay item #280178620496. Awesome site!!!! Plus,
there is a link to photobucket you should look for. This is another place
where he has over a hundred displays of his products in action. Worth checking
out, if you're interested in your own fiberglassing projects.
Next......my custom dash panel that mounts at the lower line along the windscreen,
then my overhead panel like Scott built. I already had one of these in
aluminum for the Classic, but it doesn't fit, anymore. Next one will be fiberglass
like Scotts.
Gotta get to work on those droop tips. They ainta gettin' done without me.
Mike Welch
MkIII CX
PS. My droop tip molds are SUPPOSED to be reuseable. We'll see.
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| Subject: | Shipping a BRS??? |
Steve,
I doubt very seriously if BRS would sell Grant just the rocket motor portion
of their system. They might, but I doubt it. If they did, I would probably buy
just the motor. I have the chute, already, but I didn't get it from them,
and it isn't a BRS chute brand.
Mike Welch
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From: N27SB@aol.com
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Shipping a BRS???
Grant, the parachute assembly can be shipped any way you like, but the rocket
motor has to be shipped by a facility that is permitted to ship explosives. You
might consider buying a BRS at a good price and have them ship just the chute.
Then buy a new rocket assy. from BRS. That would make sense especially if
the rocket is out of date.
steve
In a message dated 4/23/2008 10:30:58 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, grant_richardson25@yahoo.com
writes:
I see a few BRSs that I am interested in however no one will ship them and they
are too far away from me to get.
How can a used BRS be shipped? If I order a new one I am sure it will shipped to
me.
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| Subject: | Re: Monument Valley 2008 Photo Contest |
Some airplane photos:
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| Subject: | Re: Monument Valley 2008 Photo Contest |
Some more Scenery photos:
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| Subject: | Re: Monument Valley 2008 Photo Contest |
Some Kolber photos:
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| Subject: | Re: Monument Valley 2008 Photo Contest |
Pictures take by Dave Rains of my FireStar flying over MV
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| Subject: | Re: Monument Valley 2008 Photo Contest |
Pictures I took flying over MV in my FireStar
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| Subject: | Re: Monument Valley 2008 Photo Contest |
Hey Will:
"Pictures take by Dave Rains of my FireStar flying over MV "
They look like they are great photos, but can you repost them at least 600 pixels
wide or larger.
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| Subject: | Re: Shipping a BRS??? |
Hi Mike, That is what they did for Flycrazy8 (Stephen Baxley) when he
purchased an older BRS from me. The BRS had a recent repack but the rocket was
out
of date. We test fired the old rocket at TNK Homecoming 2005. On the Older
rocket packs the fuel cannot be removed and replaced so they will sell a new
motor and canister. I would call them and give them the model and S/N.
Steve
FF#007/Floats
FF#040/Floats 2008 Sun n Fun UL Grand Champion
In a message dated 4/23/2008 12:37:31 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
mdnanwelch7@hotmail.com writes:
Steve,
I doubt very seriously if BRS would sell Grant just the rocket motor portion
of their system. They might, but I doubt it. If they did, I would probably
buy just the motor. I have the chute, already, but I didn't get it from
them, and it isn't a BRS chute brand.
Mike Welch
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| Subject: | Re: Shipping a BRS??? |
Sorry Mike, just read the end of your post, they probably would not sell one
for another brand chute.
A BRS is one component I would not get cheap over.
In a message dated 4/23/2008 2:58:28 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
N27SB@aol.com writes:
If they did, I would probably buy just the motor. I have the chute,
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| Subject: | Re: Shipping a BRS??? |
Sorry Mike I just re read your post, they may not sell you one.
A BRS is one component I would not get cheap on.
"When building your aircraft your best work will barely be good enough"
Burt Rutan
Steve
FF#007/Floats
FF#040/Floats 2008 Sun n Fun UL Grand Champion
In a message dated 4/23/2008 2:58:28 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
N27SB@aol.com writes:
If they did, I would probably buy just the motor. I have the chute,
already, but I didn't get it from them, and it isn't a BRS chute brand.
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From: N27SB@aol.com
...............
Steve
FF#007/Floats
FF#040/Floats 2008 Sun n Fun UL Grand Champion
.....................
Steve,
Am I missing something? I would have thought there were more than 40
FireFlys flying.
Jack B. Hart FF004
Winchester, IN
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| Subject: | Re: expert in everything |
Ray,
Hopefully your backpack chute instructions are better than the one in this video
(check out about 3 1/2 minutes into the video) and you'll see what I mean:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tv55-m1KHAo
[Laughing]
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| Subject: | Re: Serial Number |
Hi Jack, (gotta be careful where you when you say that) It is #40 from
TNK. You have to add up all of Old Kolbs then add about 30 on top of this one.
steve
In a message dated 4/23/2008 3:35:42 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
jbhart@onlyinternet.net writes:
Steve,
Am I missing something? I would have thought there were more than 40
FireFlys flying.
Jack B. Hart FF004
Winchester, IN
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| Subject: | Re: Monument Valley 2008 Photo Contest |
I always flight=planned with a highway map -- they put the roads thru
the lowest pass they can find. Don't recall any problems in 6 trips
thru the Rockies -- but went to 13K over Crater Lake once; great
experience!
On Apr 22, 2008, at 9:02 PM, Steven Green wrote:
> Robert,
>
> There was some mild turbulence and at the moment I snapped the
> picture I was descending but that was just for a moment. I had no
> trouble getting across.
>
> Steven
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Robert Laird
> To: kolb-list@matronics.com
> Sent: Tuesday, April 22, 2008 8:54 AM
> Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Monument Valley 2008 Photo Contest
>
> Yeow! Sandia Peak is 10,678 feet, and the Crest is at 9,702
> feet... You were at 7,640 and losing altitude? How'd you drill
> through the rock? :-)
>
> -- Robert
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Monument Valley 2008 Photo Contest |
Here are Dave's pictures one more time in a larger format.
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| Subject: | Re: Shipping a BRS??? |
Mike am I to believe that if I buy a BRS chute for 3-4-5 thousand dollars from
BRS and keep it till the rocket has reached its" good til date" , That BRS wont
sell me a replacement rocket?If that is true then I guess one would have to
pay the shipping for explosives . Chris
----- Original Message ----
From: Mike Welch <mdnanwelch7@hotmail.com>
Sent: Wednesday, April 23, 2008 12:34:34 PM
Subject: RE: Kolb-List: Shipping a BRS???
Steve,
I doubt very seriously if BRS would sell Grant just the rocket motor portion
of their system. They might, but I doubt it. If they did, I would probably buy
just the motor. I have the chute, already, but I didn't get it from them,
and it isn't a BRS chute brand.
Mike Welch
________________________________
From: N27SB@aol.com
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Shipping a BRS???
Grant, the parachute assembly can be shipped any way you like, but the rocket
motor has to be shipped by a facility that is permitted to ship explosives. You
might consider buying a BRS at a good price and have them ship just the chute.
Then buy a new rocket assy. from BRS. That would make sense especially if
the rocket is out of date.
steve
In a message dated 4/23/2008 10:30:58 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, grant_richardson25@yahoo.com
writes:
I see a few BRSs that I am interested in however no one will ship them and they
are too far away from me to get.
How can a used BRS be shipped? If I order a new one I am sure it will shipped to
me.
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| Subject: | Re: Monument Valley 2008 Photo Contest |
Will & Dave
All I can say is WOW.
Thanks
Do not archive
Rick Neilsen
Redrive VW powered MKIIIC
----- Original Message -----
From: WillUribe@aol.com
To: kolb-list@matronics.com
Sent: Wednesday, April 23, 2008 5:23 PM
Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Monument Valley 2008 Photo Contest
Here are Dave's pictures one more time in a larger format.
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| Subject: | Shipping a BRS??? |
Chris,
No, I didn't say BRS wouldn't sell to it's customers parts of an upgrade system.
Of course they would. I said I doubt they would sell you JUST the rocket
motor. If you had purchased an earlier model from them, and it needed newer
parts, sure, they'd sell you new stuff.
It's been my experience that many vendors won't go to the trouble of inventing
a great system, only to sell parts of it to "anybody". Most of the time, it's
either the whole kit, or nothing. In some situations, some businesses may
sell you parts of an upgraded system, provided you have their earlier version.
Just my thoughts, that's all.
Mike Welch
________________________________
Mike am I to believe that if I buy a BRS chute for 3-4-5 thousand dollars from
BRS and keep it till the rocket has reached its" good til date" , That BRS wont
sell me a replacement rocket?If that is true then I guess one would have to
pay the shipping for explosives . Chris
Steve,
I doubt very seriously if BRS would sell Grant just the rocket motor portion
of their system. They might, but I doubt it. If they did, I would probably buy
just the motor. I have the chute, already, but I didn't get it from them,
and it isn't a BRS chute brand.
Mike Welch
________________________________
From: N27SB@aol.com
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Shipping a BRS???
Grant, the parachute assembly can be shipped any way you like, but the rocket
motor has to be shipped by a facility that is permitted to ship explosives. You
might consider buying a BRS at a good price and have them ship just the chute.
Then buy a new rocket assy. from BRS. That would make sense especially if
the rocket is out of date.
steve
In a message dated 4/23/2008 10:30:58 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, grant_richardson25@yahoo.com
writes:
I see a few BRSs that I am interested in however no one will ship them and they
are too far away from me to get.
How can a used
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| Subject: | Re: Monument Valley 2008 Photo Contest |
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The plane in the Photo is the New Kolb's new MKIII Extra with John H
flying.
Rick Neilsen
Redrive VW powered MKIIIC
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| Subject: | Re: Monument Valley 2008 Photo Contest |
Wrong again, Larry. Just got tired of asking nicely and getting rude
responses. (Don't look now, but your lack of compassion is showing.) Maybe
you'd like to call Verizon yourself and find out why we can't get dial-up in
this area. That'd at least be more constructive than slinging barbs at those
of us who kindly - repeatedly - ask for 'links' to be posted to the pics.
Heavens, wouldn't want anyone to go out of their way and learn a technique
that's been out there for 20 years.
Ed in JXN
MkII/503
----- Original Message -----
From: "Larry Cottrell" <lcottrell@fmtcblue.com>
Sent: Monday, April 21, 2008 8:01 PM
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Monument Valley 2008 Photo Contest
>
> After all the pictures that have been posted, I find myself waiting for
> the usual complaining of overloading every ones dial up. Perhaps they all
> quit in disgust at each and everyone's disregard for their plight?
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| Subject: | Re: Serial Number |
From: N27SB@aol.com
Hi Jack, (gotta be careful where you when you say that) It is #40 from
TNK. You have to add up all of Old Kolbs then add about 30 on top of this
one.
.....................
Steve,
Ok, that makes sense. Thanks
Jack B. Hart FF004
Winchester, IN
do not archive
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| Subject: | Re: Monument Valley 2008 Photo Contest |
At 07:25 PM 4/23/2008, WillUribe@aol.com wrote:
<pix removed>
Wow! A giant airspeed indicator painted on the desert floor! :)
Is that the "Rock House" I keep hearing about?
-Dana
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| Subject: | Re: Monument Valley 2008 Photo Contest |
At 07:25 PM 4/23/2008, WillUribe@aol.com wrote:
<pix removed>
Wow! A giant airspeed indicator painted on the desert floor! :)
Is that the "Rock House" I keep hearing about?
-Dana
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| Subject: | Re: Serial Number |
Jack B. Hart wrote:
>
> From: N27SB@aol.com
> Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2008 15:46:47 EDT
>
> Hi Jack, (gotta be careful where you when you say that) It is #40 from
> TNK. You have to add up all of Old Kolbs then add about 30 on top of this
> one.
> .....................
>
> Steve,
>
> Ok, that makes sense. Thanks
>
> Jack B. Hart FF004
> Winchester, IN
>
> do not archive
>
Hey guys,
As the builder and owner of FireFly # 95 back in 1998 from the original
Kolb factory, where have all of the other FireFly's gone?!!!! 40 more
from TNK makes a whole lot more out there or is my math faulty? What
happened to all of the other FireFly's?
Terry - FireFly #95 815 hr.'s
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| Subject: | Re: Monument Valley 2008 Photo Contest |
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ed Chmielewski" <edchmiel@mindspring.com>
Sent: Wednesday, April 23, 2008 6:46 PM
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Monument Valley 2008 Photo Contest
> <edchmiel@mindspring.com>
>
> Wrong again, Larry. Just got tired of asking nicely and getting rude
> responses. (Don't look now, but your lack of compassion is showing.)
Hi,
Actually you are incorrect about the lack of compassion. That is exactly
what prompted the email in the first place. When I saw all the photos that
was being sent to the list, I was amazed that no one had complained. Perhaps
I worded it incorrectly. I of course gave up and went to Satellite, but I
still remember waiting and waiting for a picture to finally manifest its
self. I guess that I thought that some levity might be in order. Guess not.
Larry C
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| Subject: | Re: Sun N Fun 2008 |
Good picture of John and New Kolb Extra...... Got anymore pic to share of
Sun-Fun.....Wasn't able to go this year.
Stephen
Kolb Firefly
Alabama
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| Subject: | Re: Sun N Fun 2008 |
Stephen, just talking about you today. hit me off list
steve
In a message dated 4/23/2008 10:27:43 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
Flycrazy8@aol.com writes:
Good picture of John and New Kolb Extra...... Got anymore pic to share of
Sun-Fun.....Wasn't able to go this year.
Stephen
Kolb Firefly
Alabama
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| Subject: | Re: Monument Valley 2008 Photo Contest |
John Williamson wrote:
>
> We say that our event is "Unplanned and Unorganized" but have never said is is
without some kind of excitement.
>
> It is scarier to watch the video than it was to watch it in person.
> http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-1486764191680773505
>
> Back to the Contest:
>
> --------
> John Williamson
> Arlington, TX
>
> Kolbra, 912ULS, 1595 hours
> http://home.tx.rr.com/kolbrapilot
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=178668#178668
>
>
> Attachments:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com//files/wj7_img_0786_107.jpg
> http://forums.matronics.com//files/wj1_100_0378_142.jpg
> http://forums.matronics.com//files/wj6_100_3395_182.jpg
> http://forums.matronics.com//files/wj8_img_0799_346.jpg
>
John,
Thanks for posting you pictures as jpg attachments rather than as part
of the main message to the Kolb list. I enjoyed looking at them!!! We
user's of the mail dial-up services appreciate not having our web mail
locked up by these posting's. Unlike some of our other arrogant and
inconsiderate members of this list, you must have a better understanding
of the limitations some of us have in our service connections. Thank
you !!!!!!
Terry - FireFly #95
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| Subject: | Re: Monument Valley 2008 Photo Contest |
John I think Rick has a point!!!!!!!!!!
Boyd
>>>>>>>>>
John W
It depends on your point of view....
Do not archive
Rick Neilsen
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| Subject: | Re: Shipping a BRS??? |
I did call BRS up and they did sell me a new rocket for the used BRS unit
that I bought from Steve N27SB ... At a very nominal price ( if it had to save
my life)..... They did ship it to me with the fuel separate from the actual
rocket ( some assembly required) ......
Stephen
Firefly
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| Subject: | Re: Dead Stick Video |
Thanks for the comments. I am supposed to fly with the gyro guy tomorrow, hopefully
to make another video. He has not even told me that it's for sale [Shocked]
Kip
--------
Kip
Firestar II (born September 2000)
Atlanta, GA
N111KX
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| Subject: | Re: Wing design and other stuff |
Mike,
I think you are right on about the Wingtips, and you are definitely right on about
increasing safety any time you can lower the approach and stall speeds in
your Kolb. Are you adding any length to your wings ? What will your total
wingspan be ?
I am also going to add the wingtips to my Kolb, but I don't have the time or the
skill to make fiberglass ones, so I will have to wait for Kolb to start selling
them. At the same time I am putting on the new wingtips, I will also add
2 feet of spar to each wingtip to make the wings as long as the new Kolb MK III,
that also seems to have helped a good bit.
What happened in your accident at 25 mph ? Did you live [Wink] If you could
post the details it might help someone avoid the same thing one day. I look
forward to seeing the pictures of what you are doing, and especially the truss
structure you were talking about for the tips.
Mike
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"NO FEAR" - If you have no fear you did not go as fast as you could
have !!!
Kolb MK-III Xtra, 912-S
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