---------------------------------------------------------- Kolb-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Mon 04/28/08: 20 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 03:27 AM - Who's going to Monument Valley? (Dave Rains) 2. 04:55 AM - Re: Who's going to Monument Valley? (David Key) 3. 06:54 AM - Re: Who's going to Monument Valley? (Richard & Martha Neilsen) 4. 07:19 AM - Re: Who's going to Monument Valley? (John Hauck) 5. 07:19 AM - Re: Who's going to Monument Valley? (Mike Welch) 6. 07:43 AM - Re: Who's going to Monument Valley? (boyd) 7. 07:46 AM - Re: more droop tip photos (Mike Welch) 8. 07:53 AM - Re: Who's going to Monument Valley? (John Williamson) 9. 08:18 AM - Kolb Droop Wing Tip And Aileron Counterblance Photos (JetPilot) 10. 10:33 AM - Re: Re: Who's going to Monument Valley? (WillUribe@aol.com) 11. 02:31 PM - April 15 Spot Pilot NPRM (TheWanderingWench) 12. 04:50 PM - Balance Master ( Prop Balancer) (planecrazzzy) 13. 05:53 PM - Re: April 15 Spot Pilot NPRM (John H Murphy) 14. 05:58 PM - Re: Balance Master ( Prop Balancer) (robert bean) 15. 06:02 PM - Re: Balance Master ( Prop Balancer) (DAquaNut@aol.com) 16. 06:57 PM - Re: Balance Master ( Prop Balancer) (Denny Rowe) 17. 07:24 PM - Re: April 15 Spot Pilot NPRM (John Williamson) 18. 07:33 PM - Re: Re: Dead Stick Video (Dana Hague) 19. 07:33 PM - Re: Re: Dead Stick Video (Dana Hague) 20. 08:14 PM - 50 foot paint job (Larry Cottrell) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 03:27:13 AM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Who's going to Monument Valley? From: "Dave Rains" What's the count to MV this year? -------- Dave Rains N8086T Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=179764#179764 ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 04:55:19 AM PST US From: David Key Subject: RE: Kolb-List: Who's going to Monument Valley? My wife and I are departing to the West from Dallas on Weds May 14th, if it 's as windy then as it's been the last few weeks we might stop short of MV or else we should be there by the end of the 15th.> Subject: Kolb-List: Who 's going to Monument Valley?> From: RangeFlyer72@yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 28 A pr 2008 03:24:25 -0700> To: kolb-list@matronics.com> > --> Kolb-List messag e posted by: "Dave Rains" > > What's the count to M V this year?> > --------> Dave Rains> N8086T> > > > > Read this topic onlin e here:> > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=179764#179764> > > -======================== ==> > > ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 06:54:16 AM PST US From: "Richard & Martha Neilsen" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Who's going to Monument Valley? I will be there on Friday. I will be driving. Rick Neilsen Redrive VW powered MKIIIC ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dave Rains" Sent: Monday, April 28, 2008 6:24 AM Subject: Kolb-List: Who's going to Monument Valley? > > What's the count to MV this year? > > -------- > Dave Rains > N8086T > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=179764#179764 > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 07:19:27 AM PST US From: "John Hauck" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Who's going to Monument Valley? > I will be there on Friday. I will be driving. > > Rick Neilsen Morning Gang: Hope to arrive Thursday afternoon. john h mkIII ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 07:19:27 AM PST US From: Mike Welch Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Who's going to Monument Valley? I will be driving, and my wife and I will be there Saturday morning. She teaches school and it's near the end of the school year. No way can she get off early. Mike Welch Richard & Martha Neilsen wrote: I will be there on Friday. I will be driving. Rick Neilsen Redrive VW powered MKIIIC ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dave Rains" Sent: Monday, April 28, 2008 6:24 AM Subject: Kolb-List: Who's going to Monument Valley? > > What's the count to MV this year? > > -------- > Dave Rains > N8086T > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=179764#179764 > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------- Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 07:43:35 AM PST US From: "boyd" Subject: RE: Kolb-List: Who's going to Monument Valley? What's the count to MV this year? -------- Dave Rains N8086T >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Weather permitting I will be there on thrus. Dave what are you flying? Boyd young Do not archive ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 07:46:28 AM PST US From: Mike Welch Subject: Re: Kolb-List: more droop tip photos Brother Bob, Yeah, I gotta make some kind of radiator shroud, combination engine cowling, too. My plan is to have it begin at the leading edge of the wing, and flair back toward the sides of the engine. I haven't spent too much time thinking about the specifics, but I kinda know what I want....I think mine is referred to as a "nacelle". (like Uncle Craig's) Mine will have two inlets. The usual for the radiator, and the other other one is for the air inlet for the turbo ducting. Oh, BTW, in one of my droop tip photos you can see my complete engine package sitting under my work bench. Jeesh!! I can't wait until the day I can bolt it back on, 'cause that'll mean the fuselage is finish! Gotta get to work on those tips, adios!! Mike Welch robert bean wrote: Mike, commendations for the ambition and nice work. I'm too lazy to make molds for just one application. Rude and crude is my way. I wanted a fairing for that ugly radiator sticking up front. First bang out a metal shell. I made it just a little too snug so some amendments had to be banged out. Then epoxy foam board externally. File to shape. Epoxy glass externally using the hi tek garbage bag and duct tape method. It will take SOME bondo and sanding to finish for paint but ought to look better than before and cut some drag. --------------------------------- Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 07:53:35 AM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Who's going to Monument Valley? From: "John Williamson" "What's the count to MV this year? Dave Rains N8086T" Hi Dave, you and Will won't be lonely at MV. Even I am going so we can talk about helicopters and Kolbs also. do not archive -------- John Williamson Arlington, TX Kolbra, 912ULS, 1595 hours http://home.tx.rr.com/kolbrapilot Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=179814#179814 ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 08:18:31 AM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Kolb Droop Wing Tip And Aileron Counterblance Photos From: "JetPilot" Here are some pictures of the new Kolb wingtip and Aileron counterbalance design on their MK III Xtra that was at Sun And Fun. The pictures are reduced in size for posting on the list. If anyone wants the large, full sized pictures ( 2.5 MB Each ) let me know and I will email them to you. Mike -------- "NO FEAR" - If you have no fear you did not go as fast as you could have !!! Kolb MK-III Xtra, 912-S Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=179822#179822 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/sunandfunairshowfloridalakelandairplanes04_11_2008_084_385.jpg http://forums.matronics.com//files/sunandfunairshowfloridalakelandairplanes04_11_2008_082_194.jpg http://forums.matronics.com//files/sunandfunairshowfloridalakelandairplanes04_11_2008_081_157.jpg ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 10:33:51 AM PST US From: WillUribe@aol.com Subject: RE: Kolb-List: Re: Who's going to Monument Valley? "What's the count to MV this year? Dave Rains N8086T" Hi Dave, you and Will won't be lonely at MV. Even I am going so we can talk about helicopters and Kolbs also. do not archive Dave is getting close to finishing it, just waiting on the main rotor. **************Need a new ride? Check out the largest site for U.S. used car listings at AOL Autos. (http://autos.aol.com/used?NCID=aolcmp00300000002851) ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 02:31:34 PM PST US From: TheWanderingWench Subject: Kolb-List: April 15 Spot Pilot NPRM Have any of you taken a close look at the April 15 Sport Pilot NPRM changes? Any thoughts on any of the 22 proposed changes? I'll be really glad about the change to allow us to fly 2000' AGL, even if that takes us above 10,000'. The biggest omission that I see - no mention of allowing the use of ELSAs as trainers. In my area (northwest Oregon and southwest Washington) there are no longer any flight instructors for fixed wing ELSAs, formerly "fat" ultralights. That means that folks who are intrigued by Hawks, Quicksilvers, Kolbs, Challengers, etc. have no where to go to get flight training...unless they travel 4+ hours. Any other thoughts about any of these proposed changes? Arty Trost Maxair Drifter Sandy, Oregon www.LessonsFromTheEdge.com "Life's a daring adventure or nothing" Helen Keller "I refuse to tip toe through life just to arrive safely at death." ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 04:50:17 PM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Balance Master ( Prop Balancer) From: "planecrazzzy" I had some shaking/vibrating ( wings off ) when I started my plane last weekend... I'm running two blades on my IVO...Last year it seemed to run just fine... Didn't like the shaking/vibration , so I ordered the Balance Master for Props....( Mercury inside ) Anybody using it..... Like it...? I asked them if I'm not satisfied will they take it back... They said 100 day money back .... Gotta Fly... Mike & "Jaz" in MN .. .. -------- .. .. .. .. .. Do Not Archive Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=179936#179936 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/triangle_blocking_reinforcing_011_130.jpg http://forums.matronics.com//files/shiny_gearbox_450.jpg ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 05:53:32 PM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Re: April 15 Spot Pilot NPRM From: "John H Murphy" ELSA cannot be used to train in???? That's news to me. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=179949#179949 ________________________________ Message 14 ____________________________________ Time: 05:58:55 PM PST US From: robert bean Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Balance Master ( Prop Balancer) Mike, I installed one of those gadgets last year to help reduce the vibes on my plane. I figured it wouldn't harm anything. It did reduce symptoms some. Mine are in the category of what John Hauck calls rum rum, low freq, in and out resonance. No doubt you will get (good) advice to do another prop balance, as should I. If you turn the device in rotation you can hear what sounds like pellets moving inside. Sure doesn't sound like mercury but I could be wrong. Anyone else with experience or knowledge with this? BB On 28, Apr 2008, at 7:47 PM, planecrazzzy wrote: > > > I had some shaking/vibrating ( wings off ) when I started my plane > last weekend... > > I'm running two blades on my IVO...Last year it seemed to run > just fine... > > Didn't like the shaking/vibration , so I ordered the Balance Master > for Props....( Mercury inside ) > > Anybody using it..... Like it...? > > I asked them if I'm not satisfied will they take it back... > > They said 100 day money back .... > > Gotta Fly... > Mike & "Jaz" in MN > . > . > > -------- > . > . > . > . > . > Do Not Archive > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=179936#179936 > > > Attachments: > > http://forums.matronics.com//files/ > triangle_blocking_reinforcing_011_130.jpg > http://forums.matronics.com//files/shiny_gearbox_450.jpg > > ________________________________ Message 15 ____________________________________ Time: 06:02:44 PM PST US From: DAquaNut@aol.com Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Balance Master ( Prop Balancer) In a message dated 4/28/2008 6:50:42 P.M. Central Daylight Time, planecrazzzy@yahoo.com writes: I'm running two blades on my IVO...Last year it seemed to run just fine... Didn't like the shaking/vibration , so I ordered the Balance Master for Props....( Mercury inside ) Mike, I had a similar experience with my 2- blade IVO. I never figured it out until I did a de-carbon. When I took off my prop the little ear on the cam of one blade had broken off and the pitch on that blade was different than the good blade. You might want to check that out if you havent. I ordered a new blade with the knurled plates and have had no more problems. Ed (FF# 62 ) **************Need a new ride? Check out the largest site for U.S. used car listings at AOL Autos. (http://autos.aol.com/used?NCID=aolcmp00300000002851) ________________________________ Message 16 ____________________________________ Time: 06:57:25 PM PST US From: "Denny Rowe" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Balance Master ( Prop Balancer) Bob, Mine also sounds like pellets inside instead of mercury. I took it off a while back to see if there was a differance and before I got to the runway I turned around and went back to the hanger to put it back on. Denny Rowe, Mk-3, 2SI 690L-70, Powerfin F model three blade. do not archive ----- Original Message ----- From: "robert bean" Sent: Monday, April 28, 2008 8:28 PM Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Balance Master ( Prop Balancer) > > Mike, I installed one of those gadgets last year to help reduce the vibes > on my plane. > I figured it wouldn't harm anything. It did reduce symptoms some. Mine > are in the category > of what John Hauck calls rum rum, low freq, in and out resonance. > > No doubt you will get (good) advice to do another prop balance, as should > I. > > If you turn the device in rotation you can hear what sounds like pellets > moving inside. > Sure doesn't sound like mercury but I could be wrong. > Anyone else with experience or knowledge with this? > BB > > On 28, Apr 2008, at 7:47 PM, planecrazzzy wrote: > >> >> I had some shaking/vibrating ( wings off ) when I started my plane >> last weekend... >> >> I'm running two blades on my IVO...Last year it seemed to run >> just fine... >> >> Didn't like the shaking/vibration , so I ordered the Balance Master >> for Props....( Mercury inside ) >> >> Anybody using it..... Like it...? >> >> I asked them if I'm not satisfied will they take it back... >> >> They said 100 day money back .... >> >> Gotta Fly... >> Mike & "Jaz" in MN >> . >> . >> >> -------- >> . >> . >> . >> . >> . >> Do Not Archive >> >> >> >> >> Read this topic online here: >> >> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=179936#179936 >> >> >> >> >> Attachments: >> >> http://forums.matronics.com//files/ >> triangle_blocking_reinforcing_011_130.jpg >> http://forums.matronics.com//files/shiny_gearbox_450.jpg >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > -- > Date: 4/27/2008 9:39 AM > > ________________________________ Message 17 ____________________________________ Time: 07:24:53 PM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Re: April 15 Spot Pilot NPRM From: "John Williamson" Hi Arty and All, You made me go and read the NPRM. It looks like a very good attempt to clean up FAR Part 61 reference Sport Pilots and Sport Pilot Instructors. You bring up a good point about the ELSA: "The biggest omission that I see - no mention of allowing the use of ELSAs as trainers." If you read these two FAR sections, you will see that we have never been able to use any aircraft with an "Experimental" certificate for compensation or hire. That doesn't limit the use of them for training, just being able to charge for it. 21.191 Experimental certificates. 91.319 Aircraft having experimental certificates: Operating limitations. Anyone can petition their local FAA FSDO for a Letter of Authorization to allow their EAB or ELSA aircraft to perform Transition Type Training for compensation. They still won't let you train for an initial issue certificate in an EAB or ELSA that you rent from someone else. What you need to do is find a skinny CFI to instruct in your aircraft and you can pay with a lot of meals and a little money. If you furnish the aircraft, all you need is that willing CFI to train you. I went flying this evening in a clear, blue Texas sky, so I'm probably not thinking straight. do not archive -------- John Williamson Arlington, TX Kolbra, 912ULS, 1595 hours http://home.tx.rr.com/kolbrapilot Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=179978#179978 ________________________________ Message 18 ____________________________________ Time: 07:33:38 PM PST US From: Dana Hague Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Dead Stick Video At 07:09 AM 4/25/2008, N111KX (Kip) wrote: >I just added another video. It's a bit shakey but I'm working on it... Here's another. Nothing much, but as you can see there aren't too many emergency landing places around here... unless I add floats and use the river (the airport has a ramp). And I've _got_ to do something about that helmet chin strap! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8QFuEA_NpJs -Dana -- Never be afraid to try something new. Remember, amateurs built the ark. Professionals built the Titanic. ________________________________ Message 19 ____________________________________ Time: 07:33:38 PM PST US From: Dana Hague Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Dead Stick Video At 07:09 AM 4/25/2008, N111KX (Kip) wrote: >I just added another video. It's a bit shakey but I'm working on it... Here's another. Nothing much, but as you can see there aren't too many emergency landing places around here... unless I add floats and use the river (the airport has a ramp). And I've _got_ to do something about that helmet chin strap! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8QFuEA_NpJs -Dana -- Never be afraid to try something new. Remember, amateurs built the ark. Professionals built the Titanic. ________________________________ Message 20 ____________________________________ Time: 08:14:52 PM PST US From: "Larry Cottrell" Subject: Kolb-List: 50 foot paint job Hi, Well I have finally breathed the last of the paint fumes again. Perhaps this headache will finally go away. My mask leaks when I wear my glasses and I can't see very well without them, therefore the 50 foot paint job. Looks pretty good at 50, but the flaws show up when you get closer. Not to mention its too darned dark in the hanger. What ever! It is kinda straight and is recovered, and repainted and now it has wheels and legs that will not let me down again. Not to say that I can't screw it up but at least it won't be because a part let me down. Now I need to get the instruments back in and hooked up so that I can do some tests and find out how it performs with longer legs. I am sure happy with the alignment this time. I set a bit of toe in on my last legs and when I pulled it backwards out of the hanger they would spread and it was hard to pull. Forward it caused the legs to stand up more. This time I set them straight, and during the axle change found that the brake drums were dragging on the backing plate for the shoes. Now it pushes both directions so easy and seems to track straight as well. I had to really push it to get the painting done. The weather here has been really iffy at best. Just a few days every now and then that were warm enough to paint. Today was about 75 so I really pushed the envelope a lot. There was a high wind warning today as well, tomorrow will be the start of a downward trend that will take us down to the 50's for a week or so. Hopefully the weather will get it over with and be nice for a change. Larry C do not archive ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message kolb-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/Kolb-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/kolb-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/kolb-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.